"Pierrier" Trebuchet/ Mangonel in action ! - ACTA - Beaucaire Castle 13th century siege engine

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"Pierrier" Trebuchet/ Mangonel in action ! - ACTA - Beaucaire Castle 13th century siege engine

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Күн бұрын

This beauty is actually called a "Pierrière" in French.
It's some kind of "trebuchet", and the closest name I found in english was "Pierrier". But the Pierrière have to be throw into motion by manpower, instead of a counterweight, like on the trebuchet will do later in middle ages !
(Also known as "Mangonel" =D )
The evolution of this siege engine went from the manpowered "Pierrier" to the "Bricole" wich added a bit of a fixed counterweight, then the final form of the Trebbuchet appeared with all the effeectivness of its ingineering that we know =D
What you see there is a part of the activities and show we propose in Beaucaire's Castle ;)
But we can as well build the same machine for your hown castle !
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@randbarrett8706 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, this is the only video I have seen on KZfaq that doesn’t erroneously depict mangonel using torsion.

@Carancerth 5 ай бұрын

Glad I shared it then ;)

@Ealsante 3 жыл бұрын

A traction trebuchet! Examples of these were known in China as early as the late Warring States period, and there are descriptions of 30-man trebuchet teams. If 4 guys could launch a stone that far, 30 guys must have been pretty scary.

@Carancerth 3 жыл бұрын

Ho yeah that deserve some experimentation as well =D Not our field, but I sure would love to see a team do that =D

@ChiefZoomanoo 4 жыл бұрын

I love how they are firing on a real castle no less!

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

With a clay projectile ;) we are not stupid xD

@StodOneR Жыл бұрын

@@Carancerth I mean I wouldn't be woried even if it was stone , not even trebuchets were used to break down castles , they were used to break down battlements and wooden fortifications

@spades9681 Жыл бұрын

@@StodOneR Sure, but it'd be a shame to displace or chip even a single brick from something as monumental as this.

@StodOneR Жыл бұрын

@@spades9681 I'm not saying that they should've used stone I'm just saying that stone wasn't used for that , it could also be dangerous for them as stone could fragment and fly all over the place

@Carancerth Жыл бұрын

@@StodOneR Clay for sure don't bring this risk to the table for the team using the machine, as well as for the visitors !

@mrdeurknopp 3 жыл бұрын

3:35 a very classic French laugh

@Carancerth 3 жыл бұрын

XD "hohohohoho"

@thomasrosenthal1738 4 жыл бұрын

This is known as a "traction trebuchet" in the American hurling community. Traction meaning "pulling". The video is very nicely done and entertaining, and the people in it are certainly enjoying the activity.

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

Ho yes we do love this =D Yeah that a good way to make easyer the understanding of to machine !

@normalcitizen_1 3 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised about how far you can throw that and the power it gives with simple man power

@Carancerth 3 жыл бұрын

At first it was embarassingly bad xD Then the team changed member, switched places, trained in different ways... Up to this point !

@theprancingprussian 28 күн бұрын

A good depiction of one of the most common trebuchets In mire staggering sieges larger ones with up to 30 men pulling could come about with counterweight trebuchets cominv about a bit later

@Carancerth 20 күн бұрын

Thanks for everyone involved in this trebuchet project ;) Very glad you enjoyed the results ! =D

@GRENOUILLEKERMIT 4 жыл бұрын

Intéressant ! Un ancêtre du trébuchet. L'inconvénient du truc c'est de monopoliser de nombreux individus qui "glandent" durant un siège ! D'où la forme plus évoluée (mais plus compliquée) du trébuchet qui nécessite de nombreux réglages et un encrage au sol plus vaste.

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

Le principe du siège c'est aussi ça "glander" XD d'ou le "siège" , on attend ! Plus sérieusement, le système de contrepoids peut fonctionner à diverses échelles, de grand fans de trébuchet en ont fait de toutes tailles au travers le monde. En revanche oui, c'est une mécanique un poil plus complexe !

@throwing_things7773 8 ай бұрын

Cool Trebuchet, gather some friends and a case of beer and play all afternoon, that's what I would do !

@Carancerth 7 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHA I admit if I had one for myself... That would be kinda fun too ;p

@Kardamitiano 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! And nice demonstration of the superior siege machinery.

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaah XD Thanks ! and it's just the ancestor of the superior trebuchus maximus xp

@Kirochi 4 жыл бұрын

Trop classe !

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

Je avais que tu aimerais

@Scout887 2 жыл бұрын

it looks like a compact, quick shooting device, makes it suitable for open field battles, no? All you need is one engineer as supervisor and some strong peasants :)

@Carancerth 2 жыл бұрын

It have been used in many situations according to the historicals reccords ;) Siege, on both sides, open fields... But mostly siege for what I remember !

@rraguso Жыл бұрын

10/10

@Carancerth Жыл бұрын

Thanks !

@yuenhai 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! One question It looks like it can be easily dismantled and reassembled where required How long do you estimate it would take for a team of trained men to reassemble this machine in the field? Which is the easier process? Assembly or dismantling?

@Carancerth 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I don't have any clear idea about how much time... especially if the aim is to be fast... Just to assemble everything... It took several hours If I do remember correctly ! Perhaps with a trained team, dismantle, moove, then assemble ... could take perhaps a day? an afternoon, depending on the place , and the distances? That it a question worth experimenting, I guess =p

@l0414ne94 4 жыл бұрын

Haha beaux tirs

@Carancerth 4 жыл бұрын

Merci pour les servants ;p

@loudradialem5233 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was wondering how those machines worked! How far the projectile flung?

@Carancerth 3 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome! So, as a cheer distance we dont know, we should experiment on a clear field and take dozens of mesurements . But you can see it reache the upper borders of the castle wall, which is pretty high! And perhaps at....50m perhaps 70... Cant remember =$ but yeah I should have consider taking some mesurements ^^"

@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын

Would have liked to seen a view of how the release works.

@Carancerth 2 жыл бұрын

Haaa I do understand why ;) That could be something intereting to share indeeeeed =D Well I can't anymore ^^" But I get that if I can make other video regarding siege engines ;)

@Anomalocaria Жыл бұрын

same way other trebuchets do it, i expect. one end of the sling is fastened to the arm and the other is hooked onto an angled pin on the arm. it just slips right off at the apex of the swing and lets the projectile go.

@ushakd151 2 жыл бұрын

Weight of stone projectile and average firing distance? Please.

@Carancerth 2 жыл бұрын

If I do rememeber right : Regarding the weight 2KG of something neaaar For the distance,.. hummm the tower we were shooting at was about.... peraps 50m Meaning that it could go over 50m perhaps beetween 30 to 80 m depending on many things, but we haven't tested enought to tell for sure for what I know ^^"

@k9uominiecani59 Жыл бұрын

Est-il possible qu'ils permettent de jeter des pierres sur un vrai château au risque de l'endommager ? En Italie, il y aurait de gros troubles criminels. Pourtant, intéressant. Pour nous, cette machine s'appelle mangano, pas trebucco.

@Carancerth Жыл бұрын

I forgot to precise it in the description, but of course it's not real rocks ! It's clay, so no arms can come to the castle ! =D