face plant Ya know, that is a great observation you made. I think you are right. 👍

Right up to she dropped the n bomb!

Selection bias

Reading was a much bigger part of life. Amazing the difference it makes!

@@flyingscot982 just got to that part and it really shocked me!

@@SGIndra but maybe the psychiatrist wants to direct the conversation to certain topics to distinguish key factors for diagnosis? So he interrupts her before she gets off topics and rambles to much?

Well, I don't know about sweet. She was describing what kind of mouth she didn't have. Which kinda shook me when she said it.

Carolina Braidy Bird Exactly what I thought! Should have read the comments first!

i suspect that it sounds like suggestiive comments b/c she might have said different before and he's trying to see if her story will corroborate with what she said earlier. However i hope that's it and not what you say, since we feel for her being vulnerable and disturbed. I do wish they would say for the camera that they checked her teeth and checked this and that, otherwise it's not very scientific if the whole research into the mentally ill does not discount other health problems in a scientific manner.

She is sweet but seems to go on and on even about being too cold or too hot. He had to direct the conversation forward knowing they don't have a lot of time and she had no issues with him! She even said she liked him

That's exactly what I thought. Couldn't understand why she was labeled as an OCD case.

BC her repetitive obsession of biting her mouth ,touching picking amd so on...ocd develops as a child.too long to explain. I was diagnosed as a kid.it ise to be so bad I couldnt function right. It drove me insane and others noticed it.i had a severe obsession w the left side and even numbers...i still hv it but not as bad. I can NOTTT hv the volume on a odd number. I HV to step over cracks w my left foot...lol its so dumb but it can get BAD

@@nikkicaddell2179 (((((((

@@nikkicaddell2179 I got obsessed with the number seven. My doctor said not to worry too much till I start counting in multiples of seven.

totally agree with you. Ignorance and arrogance is what fuels our hearts of tomorrow and today. I've seen my sister mocked and bullied in hospitals every time by the people she came to for help. So sad.

@Michele Ellis yes we are!

The anger is gone, the depression lives on (As I've gotten older).

@@KristineMarieTxSPI Well they say "depression is anger turned inwards." Might be some truth to it. I've battled bipolar disorder for 35 years but thanks to good doctor and good medicine I've been able to maintain a teaching career and raise three children.

@Michele Ellis thats because women today don't know their place.

@@MeadeSkeltonMusic What should their place be today?

That’s definitely depression you’re dealing with. When you feel that everyone would be better off without you, and it’s the right thing to do. Hope you’ve gotten help.

Yes I know too... It feels like the only light at the end of the tunnel ,and all the world's relief from pain.. Like if I am dead , I wouldn't be in this world, so no worries at all, it doesn't even feel scary that time, because it's the only one hopeful thing one can see, it really is scary if we think about it afterwards because that time every single thing is dark and only target that is to be hit is death , and brain supports it whole heartedly, telling "just do it..." I saved me just seeing my parent's face once before I was about to do that ,and it broke me, I couldn't, my parents would be devastated after i am gone , I will be in peace but others will suffer on earth for me.. The next week took all the courage and went to a psychiatrist, didn't even mention about this ,just a few symptoms and got anti depressants right away...,but those were meant only for 3 weeks after which I couldn't go back ,Just hope I get that courage to go back and start getting better

Probably misdiagnosed as she could suffering from bipolar. I do hope she has had help and that she is ok

Pretty much d describes 90% of the entire medical profession!

Absolutely correct.

To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, but it does sound like OCD as well as the other possible diagnoses you mentioned. Sounds like she has compulsive behaviours related to her anxieties (which are probably due to the homelife unhappiness etc and the outdated attitudes towards her role) , skin picking and mouth biting are still symptoms of OCD, plus her perfectionism in terms of her home sounded problematic. It's called morsicatio buccarum if you bite the inside of your mouth, it can be pretty serious. So I do agree there is a lot going on, and psychiatry has improved since then, but the symptoms comingout can be related to OCD, also OCD can get worse after giving birth. The desperation to stop biting inside her mouth and not being able to stop is pretty typical of OCD. I think if you went to the doctor these days with the same symptoms of compulsive behaviours, they'd still look at OCD as a possible diagnosis. But yes, I agree she would, quite rightly, be treated more effectively these days.

@@stlvn6363 Great observations. Is that an educated reply? 🤔 🤔

Same, or if conversation isn't about to hin

So many people criticize the therapist, but the actual patient doesn't seem to bothered by him at all.

lol

yes indeed

@S W You sad person...really sad.

@@smellslikethinice1107 how? Did you NOT hear this woman?

@@baca4962they seem to keep overlooking that part

And how does that make you feel?

The doctor is doing his job, he's making her talk and through talking making a diagnosis. So many people expect doctors to be empathetic but one of the first things they teach is too not get too familiar and friendly with patients. It can impair judgement.

@@xigbar1994 : I think that goes for most doctors, even today, they don't want to get too familiar with their patients.

@@anonymousjohnson976 money money money is what they want

A good way to describe her. My heart aches for her suffering.

I feel for this lady she does the most terrible things to herself, I wonder what happened for her to be under this spell As she puts it, When she was younger she says she was attractive & had dates. I think it may have something to do with her marriage and not feeling any sexual attraction to her husband, Deffintely no way to have to live a life, and now her husband knows this and won't get her out of the hospital she yells us, I believe that this lady still needs a lot of phyciatric intervention though, I so hope she got the help she needed and she carries on to have a long happy healthy life. I wonder how she ended up and if she's still alive.

Do you all hear that doctor in the backround? So far, I heard him light 3 cigarettes. He can't stop interrupting the patient.... & then the "uh- huh, uh-huh" business. Sounds like the nice doctor has access to meth....ih-huh?

Karen Cawthorn Yes! Also, he seemed to be encouraging light flirtation as well, almost toying with her sexually at one point. That's what I saw toward the mid to end of the 1st interview.

her heart is about 80-90 years old by now.

I'm terrible about the mouth chewing thing. I constantly have my top lip messed up. I also pick and chew at my cuticles and around my nail beds. I have found that wearing acrylics helps a ton with the finger chewing but haven't found a way to curb the mouth and lip chewing. I don't even have any idea when I started doing it but I know I've been doing it at least 25 years. I never even knew it was considered OCD until I stumbled across this video. It is comforting to know there are others that do it as well. Best wishes to you and hope we can both eventually find a way to "snap out of it". 💜

And the horrible thing is I feel that the inside of my cheek tastes really good, I can't stop chewing at it

I suffer from chewing the inside of my mouth as well. As long I as remember..earliest memory probably 4 or 5...I'm 42..

Wish we could go back !

People with OCD known full well that what they are doing is bizarre, weird and all that. I have OCD and we tend to be hard on ourselves.... "Why are you doing this?" " you're crazy!". I've come to realize that negative talking makes things worse, even makes panic attacks worse. I was told years ago, to just allow the things/ thoughts to happen without judgement. It really helps.

I would love if it was still like this! It would be darling.

5:43

Yooooo that is exactly how I felt but when ppl scratched fabric, i had to touch their finger tips and the fabric that they had scratched.

I too have delt with sever OCD since I was a teen. Have never taken meds and havent been helped much by psychiatrists. What did you find helped you?

Medication has helped me tremendously. It’s almost indescribable. My psychiatrist also recommended an OCD Workbook for me. The author’s name is Hyman. I find that very helpful as well. (It’s available as an ebook, even from some libraries.) OCD is still an issue for me, but it doesn’t stop my life to the extent it used to. Sending you well wishes.

@@bd7852 thank you. Best to you as well. 🙏

I was very seriously OCD, and got much relief from a combination of medicines, facing old anxiety-causing demons and talk therapy. Improvement can happen.

And you know this how?

@@alphaviews4639 common sense, awareness, and empathy... lol

@@janogymnast You do realize it was 60 years ago, You cant start comparing things from the last century to today. What ever the norms were is not comparable to today. Him having this filmed in his office means he was considered a highly qualified Doctor at the time. Instead of being angry try to be thankful how far we have come to help the mentally ill. That would be a better way to look at things.

@@alphaviews4639 I'm not comparing it, I'm looking at it from the perspective that I have from my own understandings and life experience. Of course I'm taking into account that it was a really long time ago, and that people had a different level of consciousness back then, and that men treated women differently back then. That doesn't change the fact that he's not treating her very well.

Says the expert.

Yeah right I know you’re just joking dude

Omg 😳 I didn’t even catch that! 😂🤦‍♀️

Mine was named dr. Pinches Lol

You mean finger therapy??? Because docs show and prove that some doctors used stimulation to women's parts to get them off the edge.. also proves that some people were creeps while others were their ginuea pigs..

I was gonna say, we’re not going to ignore that she said that right?

He also asks very leading questions. He has an agenda. This is not real counseling.

This is why I couldn't watch the rest of it.

Therapy and assessment styles greatly changed over time. We should not judge styles from 60+ years ago! Psychiatry and mental health treatments have continued to evolve over time.

Disagree.... they have a whole relationship w its dynamics, seems to work very well to analyze together her experiences. What do you know anyway?

@@sarahpeller6317 his constant interruptions of the woman were very irritating and off-putting. As someone who has had many counseling sessions, I can tell you that the best psychiatrists are the ones who shut up and let me talk! He sounds disinterested and disdainful, and I'm clearly not the only one who thinks so. So I fully agree with the comment.

Its funny how the opinion of another woman had so much weight to women back then.

It's interesting really to think about how differently society perceives people, based on the century that one is living in!

Jesucristo es Dios

That was my comment too! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

That's Dr. Richard Wiener. They call him Dr. Dick.

Some 60 years ago, people were mature about sex and named. Our contemporary mores are adolescent and even childish.

@@jaxxxon82 lol

I know the feeling. My ocd is about bad thoughts that comes to my mind everyday, but i supress them.

Just do t forget that you are not alone and you are o e hundred percent worthy of love and belonging. Be good to yourself. Life is hard and stress has all sorts of ways. Hang in there. More people than you probably think have so much in common with you friend. Stay safe🌷✌️

Same. I will ruin my face picking when I'm having an episode. It's the only thing that makes me feel better.

I rip the skin off of my fingers until I bleed. I have since I was a child and there are now slight swollen lumps on the sides of all of my fingers, because of the tissue trauma. Even after it hurts I still rip it and cause it to bleed. I pick at my face / and my acne. I’ve never understood why I do any of these things.

Ella Bione Have you gone to a psychiatrist yet for eval? It is commonly from anxiety but could by a variety of disorders. Medicine would likely help which is why you want to see a psychiatrist because they can prescribe the medicine and make changes as you improve or don’t. Please go so you don’t have to suffer more than necessary. That sounds terribly painful.

Couldn't watch it. I already want to travel back in time and throat punch that dipshit interviewer.

Totally agree. I've never seen a therapist who interrupts and talks over someone like this guy! Can you imagine what he is like in his "real life" world. Obnoxious.

@@ckmoore101 And, those "Uuh...Uuh". So annoying

@@ckmoore101 It was working, wasn't it? yeah, she had a lot to say, but he was driving the conversation. Which is kind of what you expect from someone who needs to get what you have to say and make a logical path to understand the problem

She just might probably got a lack of sleep.

yes for real

Yes so true

Educated people don't think it's all about cleaning

Absolutely. People are not educated as to the depths of the personality disorder. I remember a tv show called "Monk" where a detective suffers from OCD and anxiety disorder. Still a brilliant detective. They joke on the show and call him the "defective detective." Although the show was basically a comedy type setup it does show that OCD is a debilitating illness that is overwhelming for many individuals. It's not just about cleaning doorknobs by any matter of means.

I used to think that too before I went to a psychologist convinced I had anxiety. I came home surprised when she said it's OCD. (I am still needing to finish some tests before it gets fully diagnosed to me.)

Agree.

I get the feeling that you made your comment in an attempt to sound smart.

His affirmative sounds, "Mmhmm" are too frequent for him to be actively listening.

@Janet Sides..Good catch. Numerous references by the patient as to the age of 17. Interesting.

She was put in a reform school and was terrified. He didn't let her expand on that

@@marymcsherry1965 evntually she talked about riding in cars and somethng. Her family "had rules" to follow, so her developing sexy charisma was suddenly reshaped in the square room of a college. But what about her married at 20 ? She needed it ? parents arranged it for family's sake ? I think she was too young for that and missed a large amount of youth freedom, experience, we could say, thing that brought her self into that "mortyfing" condition. She wanted to rebel to that submitted position of hers...

You are Absolutely right

Women couldn’t get a tubal ligation without her husband signing either🙄

i know one woman that has done more harm by not being put away, so i'd say that's debatable on whether the world would do that to any one that didn't deserve it. Of course it's wrong, but maybe you haven't met a sociopathic monster yet. I would never condone that either, but i have to check you just so you are imagining all the crazy that adds up to things.

So true. My uncle had my aunt put away bcuz she argued with him and begged him to stop screwing other women all the time and drinking so much. He was also a mean drunk and occasionally hit her. She threatened to leave with their kids, so he had his mother come pick up the kids with packed suitcases. She was beside herself and scared she would never see them again. He told her she had to go into the hospital bcuz she was a bad wife and mother (she wasn't) and needed to learn how to "control herself". She was "hysterical" and "despondent", but really she was just sad and beat down bcuz she felt trapped in a marriage with an ogre who saw her as a possession instead of a partner. He finally got her out of there after about a month... after she promised to be a "good wife" and not argue with him and have sex whenever he wanted it. She eventually got herself and the kids away from him many years later, but a lot of damage had been done.

@@teridoster5840 so fucking nasty

Your Mother must have been a sweetheart. ❤

@Domy Tar it is not easy.

@@lyndsay2354 I had reading disorder OCD when I was in school. When I started reading or learning from books I couldn't go to the next question/answer feeling compulsion to again complete the first one until I feel contended that I am done with the previous so I can go to the next. I had to keep doing this many times and keep saying to myself it's done. It started when I was 9-10 y/o. I thought I am weird or mental. It got out of way when I was 14. My brain started hurting and OCD had reached new heights where I was even afraid to survive. My brain coordination and thoughts suffered. It was hell. Now I am 34 and it's little side effect can be noticed still but not much anymore. But my parts of brain suffered, it's still not recovered but I searched that transcendental meditation or any meditation can really help not only to heal but also to heal the behaviour and brain.

Think of yourself as a radio. You have signals coming in which are thoughts, and then you choose to relate to the thoughts or not. Thoughts are a reaction that happens without your consciously deciding to have them. There was a lady on KZfaq that explained that she got over her obsessive thoughts by letting them go. That’s easier said that done, but just realize everybody has crazy thoughts pop up, and that you aren’t bad for the thoughts that pop up. It doesn’t say anything about who you are as a person. I remember the exhaustion of correcting my thoughts. I had a worry that maybe people could hear my thoughts. And so terrible things would pop up, and I’d be mortified trying to fix it. It was like an internal Tourette’s battle. And the more I corrected the intrusive thoughts, the stronger they imbedded themselves in my mind. I just had to be more gentle with myself and stop relating my character to what would pop up in my head, to let go. Now it hardly pops up in my head. Also, I know that people can’t hear thoughts, I was aware them too. I knew it was a delusion, I just couldn’t bear the what if. It was just shame and the worry of being a fraud or seen as not good. I’m on a journey of loving my inner child, and I thought I’d share. Idk if it’ll help you but I remember the exhaustion. I just wanted it to stop. And it finally did. ❤

Also I have a hard time with over explaining that reminds me of your testing ocd. If I’m stressed I can get in a loop where I never get to the point, and I’ll repeat myself feeling anxious maybe that I need to convince or explain myself completely. It’s embarrassing and sometimes I’ll realize that I’m doing it, but I still won’t get to my final point and I’ll go home feeling frustrated and sad. Sometimes the stress of trying to get my point across will push me to gush about personal details I never planned on disclosing, making the embarrassment worse.

I never knew I had ocd tendencies. I just never assumed bc I tend to like have an organized mess around me. I try to stay in a routine and will do well for awhile, but I assumed ocd was about people who were super clean. And with adhd it’s not easy having a routine. I used to wet the bed for longer than I should’ve bc I had a babysitter shame me about it and throw me in a cold shower. I obsessed and drank liquid until I could force myself to pee. I thought I had to make myself pee before bed, and drinking all that liquid made my bladder too full leading to my problem continuing. I also bite my cheeks like this girl. my nail biting and skin on my fingers has nearly subsided. I do occasionally pull my toenails off. Like the baby toenail. Clipping them instead of tearing them avoids this happening though.

That's true, but it helps being able to have a somewhat normal life.

Go to 5:53 and listen …. Jeeeze.. Wait.. what did she say.. “I was confident, I didn’t have a big N****r mouth…”. How. What? Wait, what???

She actually looks young and fits her age. A lot of people back then seemed older. She was late 20s in this

Hang in there

I can relate to you! My anxiety is killing me! You are not alone!

Y do you not have an insurance? How do you get medical treatment

@@treeoftrees7523 Temporarily out of work. Ran out of insurance a year ago. Have gone thru what money I had for visits and meds. But I'm looking into some options, hopefully not much longer.

Hope you are taking one day at a time and feeling stronger every day. There has to be a way to unlock your anguish Karen. Peace and love, sister.

🌹

I will say a prayer for you tonight. Maybe God will see your pain and bring you some comfort. I know a prayer may be a cliche, but I'll send them up for you. At least you'll know someone read your post and cares. I hope you feel better somehow and see blessings and goodness come your way.

💙 peace to your heart

How does a rose help? Seek out therapy and CBT (no, not cock and ball torture, but cognitive behavioral therapy). I suffered from extreme depression at 16 after years of denying my father's death at age 12 and was able to overcome it. Had no goals either or anything that made me 'click' until I naturally was uplifted from it through a combination of therapy and friends.

🙏 ✝️💐

I have the same problem as her (OCD), but in another way (not bitting my mouth) and I also have this "arrogant thing" of sometimes think that I am better (or I need to be) than someone but also sometimes I am totally below someone.

a lot of male doctors no matter the profession have a God complex

Seems like she is under drugs.

5:42

I put my name in here then you’re leaving out a crucial detail.

ixamthestranger That’s How it was back then. Just like if someone today said white trash or trailer trash. Not good, but people use the terms in describing. That’s what she was doing. . Different times.

Nope, she’s an ignorant person.

@@silvergirl3688 no she is racist plain and simple

A fellow cheek chomper!✋🏼

@@missmarymary6506 Cheers!

I didn't know other people did this too. I've been doing it since i was like 9. I could zone out and just bite.

I'm glad you thought the doctor was creepy too.

didnt she say the n word

tremendously powerful girl. The selfdestructiveness was naturally the path that the disgregating confusion of her otherwise solid being. She lived an alienated life for at least seven years and we can see the flower of hers talking and hoping to be understood. Nudity in the most beautiful shape.

​@@tink6225..she's black so I guess it's allowed

Exactly, as someone with OCD it’s easy to tell there’s more going on. Most likely anxiety as the two often accompany each other.

@@practicallyimpractical5833 OCD is a form of anxiety disorder.

@@mr.andmrs.adorable2033 my ocd isnt severe but i dont think mine can be cured either :(

@@tink6225 I said that to my doctor this week, that I don't thinl I'll ever be able to eat "normally" (my main one is eating OCD) and he changed my meds lmao

I have ocd as well. It’s moderate, but I’ve had it a long time and it’s gradually become easier to deal with. Counseling helps a lot. It also helps to take a few deep breaths and tell yourself things will be ok if you don’t do give in to your compulsion. I have the kind of ocd where I like things to be arranged a certain way or put in certain orders. I have to stop and talk to myself, just reason out loud, and ask myself what harm will it do to leave things as is, tell myself it’s ok and I’m strong and will be ok. Medicine helps a lot too. I’ve loosened up some and am not too painstakingly particular about how things are arranged anymore (I used to freak out if I’d arranged something and it got moved a few centimeters). I’m able to remind myself that good enough is good enough and leave things alone a lot of times now. But I do still have things I just can’t help but get agitated, anxious, and tense over when they are moved.

he tries desperately not to fall innlove with that gracious, sexy, mad girl

I was taken aback

I heard that, too. There seems to be a lot more going on here than OCD.

So shocking!!! I'm going to go listen to some rap to calm myself down...

@@tycobb8621 perfect! Self care is very important

@S O Heard so many N words, I'm feeling a lot less shocked 😂

he did it with a meaning. To put her talking out of her path. To surprise her. To make her react in a unexpected way, so to catch a glimpse of her personality

Remember kids, sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

Exactly 😳 I was checking the comments to see if anyone else noticed.

I scrolled through the comments to check if someone else noticed.

Hhhaaa 😭

🤣

why come to a serious site, even a sad one, and make cheap jokes? uh, maybe your shallow??? Or 12.?

Yea. That is at least some funny realism in a terrible situation.

@Southern Mema what's funny about it is I don't think she realizes what's going on

I think he is working to redirect her focus. She goes off on tangents, as though as long as she keeps talking she doesn’t have to feel

It was natural. Now women are going nuts and freezing their eggs and alone and unhappy. Realizing that feminism sold them a lie.

Have they?

Yes, where does one get confidential office visits? ( To be viewed for entertainment decades later )

@@thereisonlyonewright3040 Right?! Had she any concept at the time this interview would be available to the entire world (even after her death), it is unlikely she would have consented to it.

Yeah I don’t know about that one chief

I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

@@cynthiatownsend7042 Why would you " Throw up in your mouth" what was so sickening to you, The lady or the stupid doctor, Just wondering.

I had to go back and see if I heard that right.

😖

That's when I clicked off 🤦

burnadetteliza huh? Did you even listen to what she tells him at the end

❤❤❤❤😢

They were well-mannered adults back then.

the way she points out with her hands !! My Goodness, I m in luv

I don't know, but it could be a disorder on the OCD spectrum. Speaking to a doctor about it would be best.

You have Dermatillomania. It is a Body Focused Repetitive Disorder related to OCD. I have it too, along with mouth chewing. I’m so sorry to hear about your hair.😢

@@aprilpinkard9929 Thank you so much for sharing this information! I don't think I even became aware of having this disorder until a few years back, and it started in high school. I want to stop so badly, but it is so difficult 😟

I do too...one of my cheeks is swollen right now...I didn't know other people do this.

Strep throat.

@@sil_ent_o cheeks, not throat

@@deannahampton8906 no no. I meant the cause of compulsive habit. It's Strep. You must already have it in lymphatic system. There is no mental illness, there are mental symptoms of infections. It's all immunology.

@@sil_ent_o 👍 no mental illness alright