She beautiful and obviously well educated. I'M sure that she will be a very successful business woman what ever she does.This family should all rot in Hell!!!

Beautiful?????, her kite is fucked. And that fucking wig is dead as fuck to.

Proof that narcisstic monsters (Jake) can be utterly charming and polite when wooing and painting their bs in broad strokes. Once they get control, their true nature rises, glad this well educated, well-spoken, sweet and honest woman was able to get out asap. The entire Wagner family is deranged, violent, sociopathic, stupid, greedy and ultra-controlling. Especially the males.

Thats why you dont jump in the car with the first guy that comes along....SCARY!!!

@@throatpunch4789 WHO DID THAT?- JUMP IN A CAR WITH A STR NERVE

That part was truly awful. Then people will say things about victims of abuse like "wHy DiDn'T sHe JuSt lEaVe?" Some people have no support system to leave. The abuser(s) can be excellent at manipulating others outside of the situation although this "friend" seemed to have already decided that she was over reacting and "emotional." 🤦‍♀️

He was awfulllll

I think this moron also vouched for the Wagners when Jake proposed to her. He's either just as corrupt as they are or he's a blithering idiot. Or both. He must be the crappies cop in AK.

@@marythomas1198 she was probably terrified.

I'm guessing that cop made the offer so he could keep official reports from being filed & head off any "trouble" coming to the family. Crooked sheriff too.

She married Jake.

Probably had no place else to go or was scared

Wonder that too. Where were her family and friends when she was making that choice to marry someone she barely knew. Feel like she’s perhaps had a sheltered life.

I agree…Didn’t they say she was “weird”.. no she was the only one in that family that seemed to know what it meant to provide for the emotional needs of the children…and wasn’t allowed to do so. That adds even more stress. 😔

I agree 💯🎯✔️

She sure did!

@@ivdddoxiemama7275 I think the old judge is just too cautious. He’s just too cautious he would never do under Brooks trial.

@@challanger275 most judges would have demanded Brooke's respect the court... never disrespect the court and make a mockery as he did. Grounds! 🤦‍♀️

THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE....THE WAGNERS WERE TRYING TO BE SO CAREFUL BECAUSE RHEY WERE 😔 😭 GUILTY! MAKING SURE THEY KEPT JAKE'S WIFE LIKE A 👍 PRISONER.... BUT SOONER OR LATER SHE LET THE WAGNERS HAVE IT....WHAT MADE THEM 🤔 THINK THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH MURDERING 8MEMBERS OF A FAMILY, WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING 🤔.., I AM NOT SORRY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIME, AND I STILL DON'T THINK THAT IS ENOUGH ! 3 PEOPLE KILLED 8 IN A VERY SHORT TIME, SO THEY CAN SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIVES 🔐 UP...TO WONDER IF THAT WAS A VERY GOOOD IDEA....ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE😉............. have a good 👍rest of your lives WAGNERS!!

For real For real 💯

Agreed!

So beautifully said thank you for sharing

👍🏻 yep, she is a decent human, sad she got saddled with that family of scum

At some point her life would indeed have been in danger had she not been able to get away from them. I believe Angela would have sealed her fate. She is, without a doubt, the manipulator responsible for the murder of 8 people. To have been given only 30 years behind bars is a travesty of justice!

Yes!

@@leotachaney7322 she will die before ever being released no one in prison lives up into there late eighties, it sounds like she"s getting a brake but she's already in her fifties.

@@therealz360z7 charles manson was 83 when he died in prison so ur comment is ignorant because there’s ppl over 80 in prison not everyone dies before 80 😂

demonic group of evil freaks

You have hit the nail on the head Thank you I hope previous witnesses against Beth give their head a shake!

Armish…. That explains her total obedience 😢, I hope she has become a truely autonomous strong women.

I agree…..A real superstar. She put you there! George just got found guilty!

Is Beth Ann the prosecutor ?

@@readg4fun Beth Ann is the warrior that survived and testified against that diabolical EVIL family of killers - she was married to Jake so Beth Ann was the witness ... the prosecutor never lived with this extremely deranged family ...

@@readg4fun No she is Jake's ex wife married 3 months to him after they had killed the Rhodens and she met Jake a year later in 2017

Absolutely! She is lucky to be alive! Strong lady!

I second that! This “family” were controlling predators… I bet it is burning them all up that these ladies have the courage to speak up!

amen !

the way the brother of Angela and his wife depicted this woman was that she was strange or weird I thought she did an amazing job recognizing how crazy the Wagners are and getting herself to safety! I pray this young lady and Tabitha can get some form of normalcy back once ALL the Wagners are sentenced to life

I can't even imagine being part of this family I would have NEVER been able to have a goodnight sleep. I just don't understand this family. It's like the Mother was the boss n ran the show, she had Billy, George, & Jake do what she wanted when she wanted. I can't imagine being treated like these 2 poor girls.

I feel like chris Newcomb got ALOT OF explaining to do

Yes! She would be great with audio books!

She’s on tiktok

@@MountainLaural what is her name?

@@emilymoore7164 elizabetharmer

@@emilymoore7164 Elizabeth ( Beth Ann) Armer.

I would love to read it.I may need therapy afterwards I'm sure.

She doesn't have thoughts. No need. This is just the live version of what she and the prosecution have been rehearsing for weeks. Every answer has adding info to then perfectly tee up the next question she's not meant to know obviously

I hope someone writes a book.

@@EFFEZE so what are you saying?

Yes I hope she finds some healing

Right! And his lawyer laughing with him. Completely disgusting

George isn't laughing today 12/20/22

@@patrickmann1777 Definitely still not laughing today 3/6/24

She does this taint the spouses in the minds of her sons. She’s really really twisted & beyond evil. Sometimes there are truly no words.

Accuse others of what your doing...example someone always accusing someone of cheating the accuser is most time cheating...

Angela seems to be envious of other women. Views them as competition. Has to be the center of attention. Felt those gals diluted her power. Insecurity demands respect, instead of earning it. Angela is a piece of work.

@@maryfitzpatrick3252 I know someone just like her, walking time knob… 😱🤮

@@msmith7472 I wonder if she SA’d her sons or the grandkids. She loves throwing that around. A lot of projection on her part.

I thought the same thing His awful father must have named him If I was her I'd change it fast

So that cop, Friend, pastor of church, I knew for some reason they knew the wagoners from church.

I think they knew them from something They had money and land she didn't that counts in my crooked County

Totally agree

That is exactly what they are morons !!!!!!! Perfect word to describe them . They seriously talked about bulldozing their way out of jail . What in the red neck heck was going on in that house. This women is a beautiful and articulate soul who got manipulated into thinking that they were the complete opposite of what they really are at first . And it didn’t take too long for her to see right through them . She’s very intuitive intelligent, calm , and kind . She seen things at every angle before they could even start . And it’s just fascinating how she could remember things the way she did .

Cause Angela’s son were in on it. It was a ploy.

She really is! They must have targeted her thinking she was a pushover & easy to manipulate. They sure as hell panicked when she pointed out the picture with jakes hand on the gun, and I would bet ( imo) she had a huge target on her back from that point forward. Her eyes were wide open and Angela wasn’t having any of that.

@@Herewearenowentertainus Angela not into reading yet she homeschooled her sons?

​@@spicyirwin5835 Great homeschooling evidenced by their speech: I done knowed she was lyin'

@@spicyirwin5835 says a lot doesn't it!

I was thinking she should be an author too!

Slim pickings in some parts.

Met in church. He played the part expected. Thank goodness she got out. Angela Wagner was running her own abusive cult

I wondered the same. So well spoken and classy.

Because deep inside she has some of the same traits he does. It's just some people know how to tame their demons.

She was a mennonite, probably didnt know better, not out there in life knowing how things were. I would think shed pick someone of her same religion, unless they are also same religion

I honestly think she was inappropriate with her sons. She used to get into bed with her married son George, whilst he and his wife lived in Angela's house, and would rub his back at night. Angela also seems obsessed with the sex lives of her sons. Angela seems to be an all out creepy, controlling, sex obsessed weirdo.

Definitely what I’ve always thought. She has easy access and makes the kids sleep with her…weird. Or they all used the kids for that…

And what about Angela sleeping with the little boy! Wonder about that!!!

Exactly what I thought

That is exactly what I'm thinking is going on and Angela is afraid those babies will tell on her if they are allowed to have a NORMAL relationship with any other adults

Monkey see. Monkey 🙊 do.

I'm thinking Angela may be mentally ill. It's like she makes up stuff in her mind.

@@brendaechols5929 Her life lacked importance and drama. So she made up her own. Evil 😈 drama queen. Control freak.

Jake and Angela are both nuts af and dangerous … I think the other two are just dumb lackeys

Hannah was not strong. She was a freeloader

@@BobSmith-ll9ol worry about your bald headed ass, Bob and leave the sane folks to talk.

@@BobSmith-ll9ol WHY do you say that? Were you supporting her?

Tabbitha escaped within an inch of her life, like Elizabeth did. The Wagner's threatened to beat her to death with a baseball bat wrapped with razor sharp barbed wire, named Lucille. The Wagner's are cold blooded killers that will never change their spots. I can't help but to think Angela was abusing Bulvine and Sophia to make it appear Beth was abusing them sexually and immediately make her an enemy. Jake wanted a love interest and Angela was too jealous to even let Beth out of her sight. Angela imo was so obsessed with controlling her family, she was willing to let them go to jail or die by lethal injection all in the name of the family cult (ure) and control.

@ Bob Smith, how do u figure?Sounds like you have a problem w/Hannah Roden? What could that possibly be? After all that poor girl is dead!

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

He the cop, apparently made friends with these hood-country people.

Pissed me.off

That part was incredibly sickening.

Tabby was 11 but Hannah had proof they had sex & in Calif that would be rape. Adults dont have sex with kids.

I kept thinking, isn't that rape?

@@CDMButterfly yes it most certainly is.😊

@@CDMButterfly yes it seams she was raped multiple times.

Also she said he wanted the little girl in bed with them,.

I'm sure his attorney's told him how to act because he is on camera

George can only see through his own narrow lens. Very clouded and distorted.

I bet she was closer to being “ disappeared “ than she even knows.

When she first took a drink of water and you could literally see her hand tremble in fear, I felt so very terrible for her. Hopefully after all this she can go on to live a very happy life with a completely normal family who isn't psycho and controlling.

Tabby was stronger bc she knew to live she had to let them have Bulvine. Hannah preferred to be dead before giving up custody. Id agree with Hannah.

Yes!!!

Well if it wasn’t for these gangsters that agreed to let her go to friends and then college was it, she was able to escape. Her god helped her think and get away.

Me to I've lived alone after I got away For 30 years

BS. Jake and his idiot father were the master-minds. Jake is a violent, greedy and jealous sack of shite, all Wagner family members have testified to the fact that Angela AND George tried to talk these losers out of doing any of this repeatedly. Get your facts straight, you incel. The entire family are literally out of their minds. They'll all rot in hell thanks to rat-face Jake

Agree 💯

Thank god her father and bridesmaid got her out

Amen 🙏🏻

Seriously! Star witness

Amazingly calm and well spoken.She is very lucky to have come through relatively unscathed. May God keep her safe and happy.

She was naive being a missionary but well read so book smart not evil smart. Tabby knew evil but Hannah never thought she & her whole family would be killed.

I think she had an Amish background, if so then as she said she did not have enough experience with men.

@@stormybleu6054 It sounds like German accent yet perfect English, Amish? I was wondering “ mail order bride”? Yikes! What a Hillbilly Parade of Horribles! No need to cut a deal, all should get Death Penalty or not have it in OHIO at all. Sheesh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Because she likes "bad boys" and was in on all the schemes etc. Wouldn't surprise me if she was in on the early plans of this whole plot.

@@EFFEZE Take your boring troll ass....anywhere.

they should all be on death row !!

Maybe God needed someone strong like her to expose the truth.

@@mstat7776 wow great point.

Bulvine

Oh I know! I have emailed Ohio’s attorney general. This case SCREAMS death penalty. So premeditated and ghastly!!!

I think Jake was in love with his child's mother but he was so abusive she knew she didn't have to put up with it. Hannah was her own person. He thought he caught bully and boss her like his mother did others He had already killed Hannah by the time he met this girl He wanted a mama and a lover I don't think he loved this young lady at all. She was an easy target to be controlled the way he thought he could Hannah 😊

And would not stand for anyone showing kindness to the babies. So jealous

Angela = Jealousy

Exactly. She cooked well and the kids likely loved being around her too. She accuses her of food poisoning & touching the kids inappropriately. All lies.

@@dejuhvu1793 George's x wife Tabatha was accused of the same thing from Angela

She will be running the prison. She should have NEVER got a plea deal! In Ohio you don’t have to be there to get Death…..just plan and know about it. They have that evidence!

Yep. She was probably giving him the stare because she was becoming more and more terrified of what she had gotten herself into

Yes….she impeached him!

Yes a class above. That is why they all thought she was weird

I found out that my ex mil (controlling narcissistic martyr matriarch of a big family) accused me (to others) of poisoning my kids. And before me accused another of my sis in laws of the same thing, plus poisoning her husband! When I was told these things by the 3rd sister in law (estranged) that's when I knew I was right and that woman was crazyyy.

They are absolutely positive nutbars. I believe it’s spelled “Bulvine,” but not much better than BOVINE 😂😂 psychotic ppl

@@catsberry4858 right I learned it’s Bulvine and I still feel sorry for that kid 😂 😬 I hope Tabitha changes his name

I didn't know that Yikes. Dang Poor thing

Weird/odd is an understatement 😂. Warped, petty clan.

If Jake and Angela testify as they're supposed to then George attempted to shoot the gun but got scared he'd miss so Jake had to shoot first. If that happens hes sunk right now as crazy as it sounds there are people that wouldn't convict based on what we've heard so far but theres still a good chance they'll be convince .0

Beth taught Jake who Jesus was & how much God loves him. Angela never gave her sons a chance in life. George couldnt kill so there's 1 thing he didnt obey Angela. She was like Manson.

Ozark family.

@@spicyirwin5835 I can’t imagine how horrific it was for any of those girls to have to live with her, and the rest of them. She was like the Jim Jones of their family. The husband, and sons did whatever she said. And took every word she told them as truth. There’s definitely nothing wrong with loving your grandchildren. But she had more of an obsession than love for her grandchildren in my opinion. She wanted Hanna and Dana murdered so she would be the only woman in Sophia’s life. I think it’s a miracle that Tabitha made it out alive. But she, and Beth will probably suffer trauma for the rest of their lives because of the experience with that psycho family. I might be wrong, but I think Angela has feelings for her sons that aren’t exactly normal either. She’s definitely obsessed with them too. She never wanted them to be happy with their girlfriends, or wives. She always tried to cause problems. And that’s a huge understatement! To go so far as accuse someone of poisoning children, and touching them inappropriately, is whacko! Like I said, this family, and the whole case is just mind blowing.

A family of murderers, I guess 😢

Bulvine Wagner

If she was smart they put her in witness protection

She moved twice to two different states out of fear of the Wagners. She is unmarried and has a job.

I read she’s on TikTok

I agree! Another sound that grates is that the prosector begins nearly every question with "and," although it's more like "eeyand." I wonder if they ever listen to recordings of themselves afterwards. She also, later in the testimony, adds the words, "I guess" after she asks a question. I guess? It seems it would be important to be as neutral and clear and unadorned as possible; good oratory is a cultivated skill,

It drives me nuts too!!

@@rrrjjj5572 yesssss! I was watching her the other day and her cross examination of George Wagner was terrible. Her demeanor is bordering on obnoxious and she seems so ill prepared for a key witness. She was no match for him. They needed the best of the best on this trial and feel like she just does not have the experience, attention to detail and demeanor for this high profile trial. She gets easily rattled, is disorganized and her responses to witnesses on cross when she does not get the response she wants sounds like a child who did not get their way. If you watched the trial about the controlling boyfriend who murdered his girlfriend, the Prosecutor on that case (last name is Brown) was incredible. He is the level of legal talent this complex case deserves.