Pilot Aborts Landing Too Late

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@3MinutesofAviation Ай бұрын

*Tokyo 😉

@Qwertyuiop_memes10 Ай бұрын

😀😀

@aviationx11 Ай бұрын

Bro like this music? Me too!

@OliverHerridge Ай бұрын

Bro likes music 0:30

@Woodcademy Ай бұрын

First one was more touch, touch, touch and go.

@Kdschaak Ай бұрын

Yea. My reaction at the end was "Holy Shit!"

@felixx321 Ай бұрын

Was that like a bad training flight or something

@PiskeyFaeri Ай бұрын

@@felixx321 Possibly, but could also be windshear, though I don't see any crabbing. Which tbh might be the issue.

@felixx321 Ай бұрын

@@PiskeyFaeri More like deconstructed crabbing. It's just a bit alarming that they went through all that and then had this delayed reaction of "oh yeah we're way past minimums"

@DizzyAA Ай бұрын

@@felixx321 Minimums was clearly not an issue here, weather seems fine.

@kozmania Ай бұрын

Flight 209 now arriving at Gate 8, Gate 9, Gate 10.....Gate 13, Gate 14, Gate 15....Gate 23, 24, 25

@chuckbarquero5327 Ай бұрын

Jajajaa

@erbrock1 Ай бұрын

LOL!

@mjkasper76 Ай бұрын

I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.

@ziauddinkhan5699 Ай бұрын

LMAOOO

@jamessimms415 Ай бұрын

Just don’t call me Shirley

@johnmorris7815 Ай бұрын

The decision to go around can be taken at any time up until reverse thrust is applied, in this case it was probably because reverse thrust was never applied. As for the gear down A330 he probably had hot brakes, takeoff can be initiated at any time before the brakes reach 300 degrees C after that takeoff must be delayed for brake cooling, if they had reached say 280 degrees just before takeoff then retracting the gear would cause them to continue hot soaking and may trigger a hot brakes caution in flight, this means lowering the gear to cool. Much easier to leave the wheels down for a few minutes before retraction. I used to do it all the time at Vegas and Cairo.

@arska-pelejavlogejajaautoj5030 Ай бұрын

Why would the brakes get that hot before takeoff? Would it be due to an earlier rejected takeoff or could it just be a long taxi?

@johnmorris7815 Ай бұрын

@@arska-pelejavlogejajaautoj5030 usually long taxi, downhill taxi, hot climate or a combination of all of these things, the A330 was especially susceptible to hot brakes while the A350 is not, the A320 family are fitted with brake fans as this is a common problem but long haul aircraft are not to save weight.

@VinhLy-eb8wk Ай бұрын

The landing gears aren’t kept down to cool the brake. After lift off, wheels are braked before the landing gears are retracted to avoid effect of gyroscopic precession. If one of the brake is deactivated, we have to wait for the wheels to stop before retract the landing gears. I fly A320, and I’ve done this procedure many times.

@TheGospelQuartetParadise Ай бұрын

Someone noted that at 0:37 it appeared the thrust reversers WERE briefly deployed.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@johnmorris7815A330s don’t have quick enough turns for hot brakes to be an issue prior to take off. This was exactly what the other guy said, one of the brakes was deactivated, so the pilots had to wait for the wheel to spin down, before retraction.

@Qwertyuiop_memes10 Ай бұрын

0:33 That was dangerously close to a tailstrike!

@AdrenalineLegends Ай бұрын

yeah true

@zrhaircraft Ай бұрын

Oh yes, when there would be some more crosswind it would happen

@rdspam Ай бұрын

Note that during a regular “aggressive” rotation, the tail comes with 2 feet of the ground. It’s as designed.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@zrhaircraftzero to do with crosswind.

@AdrenalineLegends Ай бұрын

@@rdspam true

@tedcruz8myson Ай бұрын

first one was just the pilot doing a wheelie challenge

@jawoody9745 Ай бұрын

HAH !!!!! (That's a grin)!

@brisbare10 Ай бұрын

Wild ride in the back of the 767😮

@choisyaternata8050 Ай бұрын

AAL 737 was like don't mind me, just passing through 😄 2:44

@mattdaugherty7865 Ай бұрын

767 crew: “What can we do to get 3 minutes of aviation more likes?”

@icollectstories5702 Ай бұрын

"Change our livery to Aerosucre?" "No time!"

@mattdaugherty7865 Ай бұрын

@@icollectstories5702Lol!

@RLVIDEOS2024 Ай бұрын

*Good job Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱*

@TheImperialChannel Ай бұрын

*Dear United Pilots,* *The Boeing 767-300 is not a rodeo machine into which you insert a quarter and you start going "Yeehaw!" in the cockpit.*

@amazer747 Ай бұрын

Na, you do that with 757s - overpowered rodeo machines!

@smallmonkey_and_littlemonkey Ай бұрын

probably took off from texas

@Gordanovich02 Ай бұрын

On a nice day Nice is nice for plane watching.

@Moarb1d Ай бұрын

nice Nice comment

@brucebr1037 Ай бұрын

@@Moarb1d nice!

@nl5703 Ай бұрын

My very nice niece likes to watch nice planes take off in Nice on a nice day

@bikeny Ай бұрын

It's nice to be nice to the nice.

@CarpyCarpus Ай бұрын

1:31 i think its normal, i saw a few weeks ago an a321neo doing the same thing. I asked an a321neo pilot (after we landed they let me go to the cockpit), and he said they are doing it for cooling the aircrafts brakes

@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын

Brakes aren't hot on takeoff.

@CarpyCarpus Ай бұрын

@@BigEightiesNewWave if they have to brake hard after landing, sometimes 55 minutes (when the passengers leave the aircraft, then the ground crew refuel it, and the new passengers board) isn't enough time for the brakes to cool down.

@theflyingrealestateagent2828 Ай бұрын

Brakes can absolutely be hot on takeoff if they were just marginally below the max temp when starting the takeoff roll.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@CarpyCarpusthat’s on A321s due to quick turns at the gate. Meaning the brakes don’t have time to cool. An A330 doesn’t have this kind of problem. It takes too long to turn the aircraft at the gate. This was likely due to a disconnected brake by maintenance. That means that wheel cannot be braked to a stop, before gear retraction. So the pilots have to wait for the wheel to stop spinning.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@theflyingrealestateagent2828usually not an issue on the A330.

@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын

Dreamy landing indeed!

@pesawatindonesia Ай бұрын

Very interesting footage, thumbs up mate

@fernandocamacho4448 Ай бұрын

Never is too late for a good go around. Well done awesome pilots!!!

@keithlewis9691 Ай бұрын

"Awesome pilots" would have been bouncing down the runway like that.

@ryanfrisby7389 Ай бұрын

Great video!

@jawoody9745 Ай бұрын

I really grooved on the "Heads Up" sequence.

@markcardwell Ай бұрын

Thank you

@soccerguy2433 Ай бұрын

honestly, I think that United crew forgot to advance the thrust after the go around was called. That would explain the initial rotate after touchdown, realization of low thrust, thrust throwing water off, derotate, rotate.

@Disco_r1 Ай бұрын

Exactly. He had to put the nose down to pick up speed before he’s able to get airborne again. Ty sir. Someone understands physics on this channel!!

@DizzyAA Ай бұрын

When you press the TOGA button it takes quite a while for the engines to spool up and gain sufficent thrust to accelerate to rotation speed again

@arnesw2647 Ай бұрын

Cool! 😉👍

@Thomas1980 Ай бұрын

WOW! Super Video!!!

@HAPPY-SKYWALKER Ай бұрын

HUD indicates like fighter jet cockpit so cool

@DustyRolle Ай бұрын

Looks like pilot forgot to throttle up resulting in no lift when they're trying to pull up. You can see the engines are at idle from touch down and don't see the engine rpm change until around the time the water starts blowing at 0:36. That really could've ended bad.

@Creative.Wright.aviation Ай бұрын

Aviation is the best ✈️👑

@Plensrcooldc-10 Ай бұрын

Family is better

@AviationFin Ай бұрын

Awesome 👌

@MaryKane-qv5vz Ай бұрын

I just love the humour of some of the comments, ie. Just passing through and rodeo comment. Made my day. Best laugh ever.

@CMB193 22 күн бұрын

"Hey, corporate said you're not current." "Hang on..."

@inncogneato6341 Ай бұрын

Incredibly visual approach.

@jonathanburke3110 Ай бұрын

Looks like the pilots made an excellent choice to go around. Well done United Pilots. Go around is always an option until thrust reverses are deployed.

@AnimalisMD Ай бұрын

Dang! United must be recruiting pilots from Aerosucre again. Hope the plane's shocks withstood bouncing down the runway like that!!😬😳

@holywells Ай бұрын

Agreed !! That's a lot of abuse on that gear !!!

@Roboseal2 Ай бұрын

Damn listen to those PW4000's roar! Unpopular opinion but Id take that any day over the GE90

@crucialspectre7401 Ай бұрын

That wasn't a late go around! That was a 767 getting it's touch and go's in!

@nerfthecows Ай бұрын

Man that Air France landing so smooth he got like a full 2 seconds after the 5 call out be for touching

@edwardwindmill5450 Ай бұрын

Smooth landing maybe but at the expense of runway behind the aircraft on the short runway in Narita, so not necessarily ideal.

@siddd88 Ай бұрын

2:00 beautiful flying like an eagle

@FlyingNL Ай бұрын

That Qatar 🇶🇦 approach was awesome.

@tiemji Ай бұрын

Nice clips

@hilman94 Ай бұрын

1:02 aah.. narita rwy 34r... good luck landing there, because it feels like ages to get to the terminal, especially if it's t1 😅 also nice catch of toho shrine there 1:09 😁

@kwasisb5390 Ай бұрын

Naa that forst clip was mad💀💀 looks like the speed wasn't enough to initiate the go around yet. Can imagine was it was like inside the cabin and the cockpit

@smcdonald9991 Ай бұрын

Landed at Nice NCE, Macau MFM and the old Kai Tak HKG, all have one end of the runway by the water.

@kkfoto Ай бұрын

Rio SDU, both ends by the water, mountains nearby

@smcdonald9991 Ай бұрын

@@kkfoto Wow.. thanks for sharing

@barbarajeffries Ай бұрын

I understand that the aircraft can go around any time before reverse thrust is applied. But I'm curious why the pilot chose to go around once the nose wheel was down as well as the main gear. Can anyone enlighten me?

@johnandrews3568 Ай бұрын

running out of runway to stop safely.

@oz2pe Ай бұрын

Not enough runway to safely stop the aircraft??

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

Because by the time he was settled on the ground he was way out of the touchdown zone and thus his landing performance calculation was completely compromised and trying to continue the roll out meant he was in no man’s land regarding whether he would have enough runway to stop on or not.

@TTSpectre Ай бұрын

There was enough runway to stop seeing as they spent 10 seconds accelerating to takeoff again

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

@@TTSpectre clearly you are or a pilot of commercial aeroplanes. Once you’ve gone out of the touch down zone you go-around/ baulked landing go unless you can’t due to a tech fault etc. Your opinion about whether there is enough runway left to stop on is irrelevant.

@gort8203 Ай бұрын

What's actually incredible is anyone thinking that visual approach was incredible.

@andykeith1 Ай бұрын

What the hell was that first landing?! Never seen anything like that.

@Dreamcatcher0007 Ай бұрын

It's like yuppieee am home., yet yeye yipiieeee summary vacation

@kolddk Ай бұрын

And the video is actually three minutes sharp... well done!!!

@zrhaircraft Ай бұрын

Thx for the compliment 😊

@wwutama Ай бұрын

It seems that the speed brakes did not deploy on touchdown. Hence, it is difficult to plant the aircraft into ground. This is not uncommon on B767. Hence, the PM must announce asap to PF if the speed brakes fail to deploy on touchdown.

@jimgw Ай бұрын

Late but not “Too late”! Definitely will have triggered a plethora of FDM events and a bunch of paperwork though! ‘Incredible Visual Approach’ into nice - All approaches for runway 22L/R terminate with a visual segment (VPT Circle), happens 100’s of times a day, even the A380 does it!

@andymanaus1077 Ай бұрын

This channel loves hyperbole and borderline clickbaiting. Being only a three minute shortform channel, it is not nearly as annoying as longform channels that fail to deliver the claimed title over a 20 or 30 minutes period.

@AlexandreHenriquePinheiro Ай бұрын

you must be sooooo fun at parties

@MikesTropicalTech Ай бұрын

In the first clip, were they just waiting for the up-de-doo part of this roller-coaster of a runway?

@oldmech619 Ай бұрын

If a brake is inoperative, the gear needs to remain extended to allow the wheel to spin down. 1:31

@tonyrodd6348 Ай бұрын

Living right next door to Heathrow airport I often see aircraft flying off into the distance with the landing gear still down.

@marcotravaglini5747 Ай бұрын

The 767 seems to have no ground spoiler extension at touchdown.

@BHRoadStoriesBH Ай бұрын

Very nice 👍👍🌹❤❤❤❤

@Zacht1980 Ай бұрын

1:16 - Hey, no need for name calling.

@Videolinquency Ай бұрын

Don't call it 'too late' unless something goes wrong, that is youtubese. This was late, but definitely not too late, as long as the craft climbed out safely.

@user-fd4db1mn8k Ай бұрын

United pilot has 2000 hrs of flying, 2000 take offs and 4000 landings to his name! totally normal

@eddieedmondson7698 Ай бұрын

Just been reading the comments of all the experts who were in the cockpit at the time.....................

@xisotopex 21 күн бұрын

what location was that for the Qatar visual approach?

@eldarabbas3724 Ай бұрын

So no one will be talking about the car in the background 0:40

@TheGospelQuartetParadise Ай бұрын

That was an airport vehicle. I was kinda curious that it did not turn down the runway after the aircraft to make sure nothing was on the runway.

@neumoi3324 Ай бұрын

May be Euro Sucre daredevil pilot transferred to United 767.

@gaiaiulia Ай бұрын

The kangaroo plane! Wonder how the passengers felt!

@firstlt2 Ай бұрын

The speedbrakes did not come up on the United 767, and a brake temperature indicator probably was inoperative on the aer lingus...take a takeoff performance penalty and leave gear down for 5 minutes after takeoff.

@belacickekl7579 Ай бұрын

That car at 0:40 seems a bit lucky not to have gotten pushed around by the engine exhaust!

@orangeVSappel Ай бұрын

Why was that car moving across an active runway?

@gegessen159 Ай бұрын

Pretty sure it's far behind and the zoom makes it look so near. Probably got authorization to cross the runway after the landing aircraft, so no big deal

@Gaminglayer608 Ай бұрын

0:00 to 0:40 give FedEx flight 80 vibes

@MarcosBay_ Ай бұрын

Fast and Furious: Max Drift

@lynndale4718 Ай бұрын

The B767 going around looked like the wise thing to do, They touched down too far down the runway and there was not enoigh room to get stopped. The choice was to run off the end of the runway or go around. I think I would go around.

@Abnsdllnnlosnfd Ай бұрын

1:18 The plane insulted him😅😅😅

@M-M-EXTRA Ай бұрын

and where is that part where the pilot aborts landing too late? i can’t find it anywhere

@jamief-h3044 Ай бұрын

if you look closely on the first clip at 00:37 you can see reverser deployment before the choose to go around. that could have been an excursion at the end on a different day

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

There was no reverser deployment. You are looking at runway reflection on the cowling.

@almartin115 Ай бұрын

The first one the 10seconds between 26 and 36 seconds hes clearly trying to get her to fly again then realises his lack of road left. Slams the nose back down.

@johngreen6783 Ай бұрын

Why do a TOGA at all? Looked like a pretty good crosswind landing there…

@marcmcreynolds2827 Ай бұрын

Several good crosswind landings ; ) By the time all the gear were down and ready for braking, more than one-third of the runway was behind them.

@zakariaryanmechkak3761 Ай бұрын

im pretty sure the pilot knew what he was doing in the first one he probably put the nose gear down to gain more speed to takeoff again

@andymanaus1077 Ай бұрын

Was the American Airlines 737 MAX coming in too hot? I'm not a pilot but to me that looked like an extremely fast landing attempt.

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

You cannot tell how fast an aeroplane is landing at from looking at it from outside. Their VREF is variable based on weight and a factor is added to that for the prevailing wind. What it looks like from outside is meaningless.

@andymanaus1077 Ай бұрын

@@petesmith1924 Cheers.

@hanshansen8019 Ай бұрын

Tots and go 😊

@terrancestodolka4829 Ай бұрын

Remember it's an attempt to land... Until you come to a stop... Then it's a landing or a crash.

@fojosiah6627 Ай бұрын

3 minutes of aviation was posted 3 mins ago 😂

@cris_261 Ай бұрын

Best time to eatch.😄

@Plensrcooldc-10 Ай бұрын

Shut the hell up

@mvb7503 Ай бұрын

i don‘t see any spoilers deploy upon touch down of the united b767?

@jonnie2bad Ай бұрын

most likely becasue he never went to reverse thrust. The auto spoiler if armed won't deploy until you pull the reverse levers.

@mvb7503 Ай бұрын

@@jonnie2bad according to my knowledge the spoilers deploy once the aircraft touches down and is not related to reverse thrust?

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@jonnie2badthis is incorrect. The auto spoilers come up on touchdown.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

@@mvb7503correct. I believe the 767 uses wheel tilt. I have a feeling that part of this problem was that they didn’t arm the spoilers.

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

@@jonnie2badI think you have to arm the spoilers for them to deploy once weight is on the wheels if memory serves me right - nothing to do with reverse deployment.

@bigmac3006 Ай бұрын

Incredible power of the 737 max-8. Very impressive.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

This was a normal go around. Any airplane can do this. Has zero to do with power.

@vandijk1698 Ай бұрын

That heap can have all the power it has, I wil never ever fly on one...

@bigmac3006 Ай бұрын

@@vandijk1698 LOL

@verifiedtoxicangel2411 Ай бұрын

@@vandijk1698 What if i told you that you dont get the option of choosing which aircraft model to fly......gotta just settle for whichever model the airline offers.

@vandijk1698 Ай бұрын

@@verifiedtoxicangel2411 no true at all. I select my flights based on equipment. I've been succesfully avoiding Boeing for two years now. I gladly pay a little extra for peace of mind

@orlandoramos9218 Ай бұрын

Touch and Go..

@MrSubmerge1991 12 күн бұрын

I always thought pilots were mandated to use english only in the cockpit? Or is it just for radio communication etc?

@886014 Ай бұрын

First landing appears to be a training flight where was an intention to touch and go. Speedbrakes/Ground Spoilers were not armed and reversed thrust not selected, as per standard procedure. The point at which the thrust levers were stood up can be seen, then the subsequent takeoff thrust occurred shortly before rotate. Everyone has their first few landings in a large jet and it’s an intimidating moment for most pilots, irrespective of how much simulator training has occurred prior. I wish the candidate all the best in their B767 career

@edwardwindmill5450 Ай бұрын

Don't think United will fly a 767 from the US to Zurich to do touch and go's.

@mindful47 Ай бұрын

Why did the first plane flew up again when it has landed ?

@Logan11thMEU Ай бұрын

Landing in Toyko japan ?

@pantherplatform Ай бұрын

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@SunCrawler. Ай бұрын

In the first clip the word extremely used correctly

@gabesrobin8792 Ай бұрын

Windshear for the first one?

@SaliDu-qm6th Ай бұрын

First one was filmed by a friend of mine 😊😊

@guguigugu Ай бұрын

that was basically a touch and go

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

No, it wasn’t. It was a baulked landing.

@paulbromley6687 Ай бұрын

Are you sure it wasn't a training touch and go ?

@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Ай бұрын

That pilot havd great intuition its too late too fast to land and breaking

@auwz66 Ай бұрын

That 76 was wild, way way too late - its fine to play around sometimes.... but not when you have people watching !!

@MeppyMan Ай бұрын

You’re not serious right? Playing around. 😂😂

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

Clearly, by definition and the fact that they got safely airborne again and presumably came back around and landed safely on the second attempt, your comment is totally incorrect.

@marspp Ай бұрын

The 767 was bizarre. Suspect (with no evidence other than what can be seen) that the FO screwed it up, continued to screw it up, the captain knocked the spoiler arm off, took control and got it out of there. That was a seriously long amount of stuff going on at low level. Qatar 787 : nothing new. Every pilot will - or at least should - have done a base to final turn like that many times.

@EdOeuna Ай бұрын

That first landing at ZRH was sickening. The camera angle is bad, but the decision Togo around seems to be late and not followed through. Yet another airline to add to the no-fly list.

@videocritical Ай бұрын

The Nice approach will be RNAV

@GaryM1967 21 күн бұрын

I enjoy these videos, interesting sights to be seen with these big jets. Will be flying next week, to Geneva and onward to Agadir. But, yesterday I saw a hawk attack a sparrow in my garden, just ten feet in front of me, and I was amazed by the mid-air speed and dexterity of both birds. On this occasion the sparrow managed to escape. But it's evidence that God designs of flying creatures are way better than what man has designed in planes.

@plpapi182 Ай бұрын

6:48 ale to się buja …masakra

@markbuckingham3631 Ай бұрын

If you don’t arm the auto spoilers it sucks

@LaNfinity Ай бұрын

As far as I know, they open automatically - and it looks like they did, but hard to see due to the angle of attack, just check out the video right before the car turns up. Anyway, I can imagine the following: a trainee FO tried to land without luck. The FO pressed the TOGA but the nose was up, so the captain took over the control, pressed the nose down to gain enough speed for the rotation.

@dragon_ride_r7528 Ай бұрын

That’s what happens when you don’t arm the lift dumpers on landing. It still wants to fly.

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

There was way more going on than that - it’s easy enough to deploy them manually when the PM calls ‘No speed brakes’, and make a perfectly normal landing and roll out.

@TheReverses78 Ай бұрын

United again??

@Meechooilka Ай бұрын

that first landing in ZRH was terrible! What was wrong?

@ScottRossillo Ай бұрын

Looks like they didn't have the lift to get back off the runway. Probably should have put the nose gear down right away until they got more speed. Luckily they saved it.

@petesmith1924 Ай бұрын

@@ScottRossilloI think it was an inexperienced PF who got it all wrong after the initial touchdown and slight bounce. The correct drill for a baulked landing (go around after touchdown) is to apply an armful of thrust, make sure the speedbrake is stowed, and rotate when the PM calls it, which is at the landing VREF, leaving the config alone. Once airborne you press TOGA and turn it into a go around.