The Pros and Cons of flying for a passenger airline vs. a cargo airline! Follow Me for More: Instagram: @pilotpete.fly / pilotpete.fly TikTok: @pilotpete.fly www.tiktok.com...
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@badboyvr4 Жыл бұрын
As we said back in my cargo days...."Boxes Don't Bitch"....lol!!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
haha yep
@alazartessema3444 Жыл бұрын
In short: Passengers for extroverts and Cargo for introverts : )
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Haha, not a terrible way of thinking about it
@Bandoo212 ай бұрын
If you would like to be an introvert for your whole life yes
@mattlantzy5093 Жыл бұрын
"Nonexistent significant other" Felt that 100% 🤣🤣🤣
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Haha facts only
@rethinkcps211626 күн бұрын
@@pilotpetefly- do retirees get the free flights...?
@VchaosTheoryV7 ай бұрын
As a truck driver, the reason why i don't drive passengers is because boxes don't bitch lol. So if i get my PPL, i'm going the cargo route
@pilotpetefly7 ай бұрын
haha so true!
@deesylva4161 Жыл бұрын
Also a pro for cargo pilots is if not in a critical phase of flight you can normally get up and use the bathroom whenever you want and go fix coffee or something to eat, without wearing your uniform.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
100%, another nice pro of cargo for sure!!
@PickleRickSanchez Жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for making this video, I was one of the people asking for it😁very helpful!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Of course; thanks for watching!
@tanvirahmed5372 Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful explanation. Thank you very much, good sir. Looking forward to more videos. Hope your channel grows well.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tanvir, appreciate it!
@josephkristwell Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience cap! Wishing you a happy december
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thank you, you as well Joseph!
@kevinatkinson5660 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just viewed a couple of your videos. Really excellent informative and real.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, appreciate it!
@NorthernNegatives Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I’ve watched all your videos and I really enjoyed them. Chilled presenting style and interesting facts and information. Keep it up man, the channels gonna take off ✌🏼
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, really appreciate that!
@ohiyesa2328 Жыл бұрын
A question Ive had for a while. Really appreciate it
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Anytime!
@ericinzesky1077 Жыл бұрын
really interesting, thanks a lot for this cool video 🙂
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric!
@coltoncurtis4371 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, but I do still have some questions. You mentioned lifestyle when reporting a pro for cargo, can you please elaborate? What does a normal month entail in regards to flying days on/off (on average)? Is open time available? What is the average amount of time for upgrade to captain? What makes you a competitive applicant for a major legacy cargo carrier? Etc etc… If you could answer some of those questions I would be grateful.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
That’s hard to answer, bc it’ll change month to month, day by day. But here’s my best try… Lifestyle, cargo, I fly the plane. Period. Pax, have to deal with a lot of “external factors”. That adds stress, effects your quality of life. Days off, avg: 15-18 days off a month. Upgrade was 4 months on property last bid. Competitive: clean record. turbine PIC time in jets/heavy jets. Hope that helps!
@coltoncurtis4371 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate your response.
@naomisimmons740Ай бұрын
My main concern when it comes to being an airline pilot is the unpredictable schedule. Is this something you deal with as a cargo pilot?
@jacobndege6747 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get those pictures behind you? They look so good!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
I sell them Jacob! Just finishing up some website design and will be live soon!
@e2dub5 ай бұрын
What about the differences in work schedule? I’ve heard that some air cargo companies schedule 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. If so, that seems appealing to me as there are less days wasted traveling between home and work and more days off! Is this a fairly typical schedule in air cargo?
@frannyp46 Жыл бұрын
Boxes of batteries sometimes complain though.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Luckily it's very rare and hasn't happened on any of my flights to date.
@kyleflem82 Жыл бұрын
Great video after being a dispatcher in the passenger world for 20 years I switch last year to cargo and I agree with everything you said. I notice you went from three bars in the last video four bars. Is it Captain Pete now?
@YHDiamond Жыл бұрын
He might still have a captain uniform from when he worked at another airline, just a guess though.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Oh nice, congrats. And thanks! Ha no, still FO. Old uniform epaulettes
@vijaysrini27Ай бұрын
Free travel for all family members? That's amazing.
@caraveli2573 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a people's person, so Cargo all day long! Lol
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
😂
@kingj1399 Жыл бұрын
Cargo Pilots are looked at like a Corrections Officer. Nobody thinks about them or what’s inside the structure LOL. Only will get looked at by other co-workers and inmates. Patrol Officers are like the Airline Pilots that fly passengers. Always getting looked at by lots of different people. I used to be a corrections officer and know how it goes with that type of stigma. Anywho, keep the content going. Love your videos!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Haha great comparison. Thanks, really appreciate it!
@octavia1amazing Жыл бұрын
Love the analogy!
@flyontop Жыл бұрын
And being looked at it’s what’s important… 🤦♂️
@paulgarrett7434 Жыл бұрын
I know EXACTLY what kingj is talking about!
@XVionceJSTAR5 ай бұрын
if i had a choice i'll go for cargo for sure. rather deal with a shipment of boxes then a bunch of people who just moan and complain behind me about any situation that is beyond your control lol just a pet peeve of mine 😆
@UQRXD Жыл бұрын
My parents always sent me cargo to grandmothers house, was much cheaper.
@avestuart Жыл бұрын
I don't know, man, I heard an ATC recording of a cargo plane which had to return to Miami because a horse in the back got upset. They had to declare an emergency.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
I believe it. I’ve flown my fair share of horsies, but they all like me and my “welcome aboard” announcement, so they always behave 😁
@octavia1amazing Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly Good one, haha!
@maorifishboy Жыл бұрын
Advice for someone who wants to become a pilot after a 10-year career as a management consultant? I'm at a point in my life where I think I wanna finally chase my dream of becoming a pilot - I've always been fascinated with airplanes.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Advice….GO FOR IT! It’s never too late, seriously. I had men and women in my new hire class at both airlines that I was at in their 50s. So if it’s something you really want to do, go for it. Life is short!
@UTarcher72 Жыл бұрын
Pete! We're in desperate need of new pilot content. Have any new episodes in the works?
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Hey! Hoping so soon, unfortunately have to hold off for now though. Appreciate the support!
@UTarcher72 Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly thanks! Looking forward to it.
@monroegaine Жыл бұрын
I want to fly cargo and not passengers after my 1500 hrs. I am better with boxes than I am people. What would you recommend. I am going to LIFT academy for flight training
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Just keep doing what you’re doing. Network with others in the industry, and don’t automatically say no to flying the pax carriers
@Myst3ryM4nn10 ай бұрын
Do all legacy us airlines expect their pilots to be clean shaven ?
@pilotpetefly9 ай бұрын
Yes they do
@GansitooLiveАй бұрын
How does the pay compared between them? Right now I’m currently a trucker so I think I would like cargo a lot more to be honest. Is there one that’s more difficult to get into than the other
@andyshin1255 Жыл бұрын
How was the scheduling like and quality of life?
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Making a video about schedule soon
@bradleys2320 Жыл бұрын
FedEx must have had huge benefits for you to leave a major as a Captain. Just curious how many years of seniority you gave up by leaving as a Captain?
@bradleys2320 Жыл бұрын
Never mind. Every time I have a question on a video you answer it in the next prior one that pops up in my feed.... thx!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
@@bradleys2320 anytime, thanks for watching!
@bradleys2320 Жыл бұрын
Just found a related thread on the APC forum: "did I make the right choice leaving 4 years of seniority at a major passenger airline to come fly crappy schedule on a cargo carrier"? Interesting discussion....
@kevindigo22 Жыл бұрын
"Clean shaven"....you must not be flying the day you made this video haha. Great video, I have many questions but will limit myself to one. My nearby airport is CYYC. We are serviced daily by the two big legacy freight carriers from the US. Let's say, typical flight is from MEM to YYC arriving between 6 to 7 am in the morning. The plane sits on the ground all day, for about 12 hours. The return flight from YYC back to MEM leaves between 6 to 7 pm, gets into MEM around midnight. This daily out and back scenario is common all over North America. My question is, what do the pilots do for the 12 hours the plane is on the ground during the day, at the outbound airport? Do you go to a hotel and sleep? Or is there some crew rest area at the outbound destination terminal that you hang out in? Do you get paid for these 12 hours that you are sitting on the ground at the destination airport? Always wondered about this, and you are the guy that can answer this. Thanks!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Yep, we get a hotel. What we do on our layovers is completely up to us. Just be rested and ready to fly when it's our time to go!
@MikeHefner-je8dq Жыл бұрын
Hey Captain, when did you upgrade to captain? Also I am a flight student who is finishing up his instrument and my school is a partnership with Atlas Air. Any opinions about this cargo company. My end goal is FedEx too fly their MD-11f. Thanks and awesome video's this channel is going to grow SOOO much!!!!!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike! I was a Capatin at my ex ex airline. I’m currently a FO. That’s awesome, best of luck with training! I don’t know much about that airline, but haven’t heard anything bad about it. Thanks so much for watching!
@scorpi9723 ай бұрын
Cargo better for me
@justinhammonds673510 ай бұрын
Hi Pete love the videos. I am actually in a aviation program at a university. Would you recommend doing cargo first or doing the airlines first after? I been looking into Mountain Air Cargo for their purple fed x pathway or skywest for a regional airline.
@pilotpetefly10 ай бұрын
No wrong answer. Get your hours, build your time, and then make a decision. There are pros and cons to each airline
@prestonmal Жыл бұрын
Two other perks of cargo are getting widebody pay much sooner and a good pension. Good video to put out there, most people don't know!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Preston, appreciate it!
@chrispyy05 Жыл бұрын
How can I fly cargo from the start instead of transitioning from passengers to cargo.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
There a bunch of cargo feeder operations that you can fly for that make for a good transition to getting to the legacy cargo companies. Mountain air cargo is one that I know of
@RobertoAlvarado-ok6kq5 ай бұрын
How about rostering? Big thing you did not talked about bro
@abominalchicken976 Жыл бұрын
what is the main pay differences? I am 17 and looking to be a pilot but can't decide between cargo or passenger.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
It is not much, plus the pay differs year to year because the contracts are changing
@cbboiii1100 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get those airport pictures behind you?
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
I make them! PilotPeteFly.com
@kam_a3216 Жыл бұрын
Pete do you miss flying the Airbus?
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
I do! Love the Airbus. Airbus vs. Boeing video coming out next!
@e2dub5 ай бұрын
How about safety and job security? Is one statistically safer than the other? Are cargo airline pilots typically unionized like passenger airlines?
@pilotpetefly5 ай бұрын
Union as well yes
@Dragonred882 ай бұрын
whats up bro, im in my flight training right now ... what would you say is the difference as far compensation and demand for passenger vs cargo pilots ? thanks !
@cabrams1209 Жыл бұрын
What's your experience been like with night flying or crazy circadian rhythm changes? FedEx/UPS both fly at night quite a bit, has that been tough to handle compared to your pax flying?
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Great question. Personally, I don’t enjoy night flights, because I’m not a great sleeper to being with, so when my normal schedule gets screwed up it takes me awhile to get back on track. Luckily, I’ve been able to avoid a lot of night flying in career. Contrary to popular belief, Cargo and pax flying have similar amount of night flying. My west coast based friends fly a lot of redeyes to the east coast on pax carriers.
@cabrams1209 Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly That's great info, thanks for that. I figured cargo had significantly worse schedules, and that was my biggest reservation in trying to go there. What is your personal biggest negative/regret with cargo flying? I'm leaving the military in about a year, so the info is extremely helpful.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
@@cabrams1209 I don’t really have any regrets honestly. I would say the negative is I know commute to work. However, with the amount of deadhesds we have, not often am I not flying positive space to get to work. Best of luck with your decision, having flown at both legacy pax carrier and now cargo, can’t go wrong with either!
@cabrams1209 Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly It really does seem great either way, but if that's the only negative then I know where I want to be. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
@@cabrams1209 anytime, best of luck!
@Azzmelater5 ай бұрын
Is it true that when you fly cargo you can climb much faster as opposed to flying with passengers? Or is flying about the same regardless?
@CruseCondray Жыл бұрын
Hey I really want to be a pilot and was wondering if you get paid more flying cargo than passengers. I was considering flying FedEx
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Not more, not less. Contracts are always changing so pay rates are as well. The top airlines all pay about the same
@cadenrogers366 ай бұрын
How are passenger and cargo with being at home, are you home every night? I know seniority has an affect but how many years of seniority do you need to be able to be at home with your family every night?
@pilotpetefly6 ай бұрын
All depends on where you live. Live in base, pretty easy
@michaeldubanowski782119 күн бұрын
Are you contractually obligated to your employer or can you move around at will?
@edseavervinuesa-mz6gi Жыл бұрын
Don't like fly on reserved standby
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
There is reserve standby at both pax and cargo airlines
@edseavervinuesa-mz6gi Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly Thanks Pete
@skiddymark10 ай бұрын
i fly cargo on a 1900d in eastern canada and love it.
@MsRockstar2754 ай бұрын
Listen cargo pilots are Santa Claus everyday(or at least that’s what I’ll tell myself someday when I make commercial)
@igorkuon1604 Жыл бұрын
Hi, awesome video! Do you think its worth it to pursue a pilot career without a bachelor degree? Im 39 yo and i have a small family restaurant but i rly like the pilot career. Thanks in advance! Btw i want to be a cargo piot as well.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, most all US airlines no longer require a college degree to get hired. So you're good to go!
@ivaylokudinov Жыл бұрын
✈️👏🙌🙌
@Steve197201 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that the airlines treat their flight crews just as badly as they treat their passengers. Is that true? And do the cargo companies treat their pilots better?
@nuneze23 Жыл бұрын
No, mileage varies based on who your employer is.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Not in my experience. I’ve flown for 3 different airlines, all of which have treated me well!
@gilbertkoehn66477 ай бұрын
❤ I love you ❤️🎉
@topofthegreen10 ай бұрын
With cargo you fly 30 to 50 year old worn out aircraft with old steam gages.
@pilotpetefly10 ай бұрын
I’m sure that’s the case with some companies. But I just flew a brand new 2023 B767 with all glass displays!
@JH-qqqqqiim4 ай бұрын
No
@nomadnorth97743 ай бұрын
Lol, wrong!
@bobmcgehee17499 ай бұрын
Cargo, hands down.
@jafaw9 ай бұрын
Cargos better but you dont get free flights
@Prachka1 Жыл бұрын
Who cares what people think? - as long as you are happy and your bank account likes you - opinion of other people makes no difference.
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
I sure don’t, it was supposed to come across as satirical, bc you’re absolutely right, do what makes you happy and don’t look back!!
@bigdogboos13 ай бұрын
I todays culture where.l it seems everyone has lost their minds, and there is no common courtesy like in Japan, cargo 10000000%
@gilbertkoehn66477 ай бұрын
You are so handsome I like you❤
@bobbys216010 ай бұрын
done both cargo not fun...middle of the night flying . parking in the middle of nowhere. think of your passengers as cargo that walks on and off. passenger flight park at the terminal cargo parks on the tarmac. my choice passenger did it for 35 years with no regrets
@eccentriclocs Жыл бұрын
Hi there…any tips for fearful flyers especially after seeing the two severe turbulence incidents (one plane dropping 500 feet😮) recently reported on the news 🫣 please and thanks!
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
Just saw that on the news, my mom just asked me the same thing. I'll make a video on turbulence soon! Short answer though, as scary and terrifying as turbulence may be, know that the plane will never go down because of it, that your pilots will get you there safely. It's like a roll coaster ride you didn't sign up for, it's scary, but 100% safe and will be over soon!
@eccentriclocs Жыл бұрын
@@pilotpetefly Thank you very much. Seriously considered cancelling a trip after hearing about each incident. Getting a RX of Xanax to hopefully help me through any expected (and unexpected) turbulence. Subscribed☺️
@pilotpetefly Жыл бұрын
@@eccentriclocs I understand, flying is nerve racking for many people. As much as I love it and think it’s fun, safety is #1 priority, always. So I’m 100% confident telling people they’re safe up there. You got this!