I bowled league and tournaments 30 years ago. I just got back into it this year. Crazy how much has changed

And now I know WHY I prefer pin down drills. Another stellar video Mikey, please keep them coming!

One of the best technical explanations of pin up bs pin down I have seen!

Love this, you are definitely one of the better people to explain and flesh out what you're teaching us. Thanks so much

Love the low flaring balls, I find most balls now are too aggressive for me so need to tame them down. Good to see the difference.

Good stuff EasyMikeBreezy! I really like my pin downs. Being a lefty and playing that typical lefty line pin down works really well for me. Thanks Mike for the explanation of the two. Preesh.

Wow... ball and bag, can only dream

Great demonstration Mikey! Been watching yours and Darren’s tip videos for about 3 months and my average went from 185 to 200. Thanks for the help!

okay much needed, i had no idea this related to the flare lines thank you Mikey

Awesome timing on the vid. Been wanting to mess around with pin down layouts for a while now! 👋🏻

Nice explanation Mikey!

Great vid. Gimme that ball and tote!!!

Very helpful. I'm new to bowling and I just had a new ball drilled and I noticed they drilled directly into the pin. I wondered what that meant. And everything online is "pin up vs pin down". No one talks about what directly into the pin does. So, Now I'm extra curious, why did they drill my ring finger into the pin and what does that do??

Just got my first personal ball from my brother in law and you, your brother , and Chris have helped me learn and figure out a lot over the past few months

great explanation

Very well stated and demonstrated so we could understand and make the decision for how we throw it. Keep up the good work!

Like the vid. Just started bowling and trying to learn.

I was actually thinking of finally adding a pin down ball to the bag and this video sealed the deal! Thank you

Thank you for explaining the difference, it makes more sense to now.

This was SO good. Very easy to understand. Thanks!

Let's go 30k! Love to see your channel growing. Seems like yesterday you were topping 20k.

Awesome bag!

Love the content! Can you do a video explaining what ball is good for high rev low speed players! 400+ revs 14.5 mph.

Great Video. Congrats on 30k!!!

Very informative, my favorite ball is pin down. It's my most predictable controllable ball. It leaves the fewest splits and most make able spares. I'm a right speed med-low Rev down and in bowler. I like stroking that "thang". This was extremely helpful. Thanks

Another good one Mikey. For the next Ballsplanations video, can you talk about tape on the forearms and wrists? When to use them. That would be helpful.

Keep going with the dope content... Thank you!!!

thank you for the education on the pins! great content!

Always very informative

Thanks Mikey this really helps me when drilling a ball!

Very helpful, Michael. You answered some questions I've been mulling for a while. Thanks a bunch.

Another great ballspanation. Keep them coming 🔥🔥🔥

Excellently explained

Great demo!

Excellent job

Wonderful content

Another awesome vid! Thanks Mikey!!😊

love your explanations, keep it up

Love your content. New to bowling. Very informative and helpful.

Your tips are fantastic thx u

Fantastic explanation

That ball is so pretty! 🤩

Great explanation! Made so easy. Thank you

another amazing video very informative

Just started bowling and I love the timing of this video🎉🎉

Nice job Mike.👍

Great information!! Thanks for making this video!

That 5 1/4 with the 2-2 1/2 buffer is my absolute favorite layout. Had a ball with that pin down layout and I couldn't get a feel for it.

Love your videos

Thanks for your tips. Now I'm learning what up and down pin are

Thanks for the video Mike! This helps me a lot. Keep these helpful videos coming please. 👏

Probably also worth mentioning: The bigger the core, the greater the delta you'd see with a pin up/down comparison. Anything in the .020-.030 differential category is already flaring pretty tightly from the factory; going pin down on a small core can cause the ball to roll over its own oil and cause carrydown (yes, even if it's resin - nothing to do with urethane).

Keep the fire coming

Thanks for the content! This pin-up/pin-down comparison answered a few questions I’ve been having

Super helpful video, Mikey, thank you! My boyfriend and I have gotten into bowling this year, this was much needed. Surface change video next!!

Definitely want to stop by your place when I come and do the pba lbc in IL

My favorite videos by far.

on tour, how often did you use different layouts? would it have been easier to keep ball changes as the only main difference in your arsenal? do some types of bowling balls benefit greater from pin up vs pin down layouts? Great vid Mikey!!!

I’ve been using pin up for 10 years and I’m about to try pin down tomorrow. I feel like because I am an “outside line. Bowler” I feel that pin down is going to be better for me

I bowl 3 nights a week and have 3 balls and a 2 ball bag. I absolutely love it

Omg!! A bowling ball and tote giveaway! I need this, seeing that i'm getting back into bowling after 3 yrs away from it. Thanks for the video, i've asked so many pro shop managers the difference of reaction and movement of a bowling ball when its drilled pin up versus pin down. I'm also thinking about getting the Idol Optimum and Summit Peak.

I drilled my first pin down ball about a month ago. It's different since I'm use to throwing pin up. I've noticed my ball goes little longer but more skid flip in the back end. I'm throwing the bw3.0

Still planning on a visit for a couple new balls next month when I’m in Colombus. I’m really looking forward to some help from a professional

I think that ball is going to be amazing

Hey Mike, where can i get the racers you are wearing?

what would you recommend for different types of players between up and down on the house shot?

Good info MT, what about doing a short pin vs long pin comparison?

Good video

i like the dna coil and the new idol i can throw them both from my regular spot and move way right from the left side of the lane at the bowling ball demo

Great video Mike!! As a 2hander what layout does Chris have for pin under?

I've bought so many balls lately, I'm ready for another 3 ball tote!

Every time my team bowls on the pair you do a video on, I bowl like crap. What are you doing to the lanes?🤣🤣

I have two of the OG Zen's one pin-up and one pin-down. I get mixed answers as to what surfaces match better with both. Should the pin-up have more surface on it to accentuate the earlier motion and polish the pin-down to do the same (accentuate later motion)? Or polish the pin-up and put surface on the pin-down (which may bring them to be too similar areas of the bag)?

I'd like to see Chris Via do a pin-up and pin-down video for the 2 handers and no thumb bowlers and how the RG and differential numbers differ from a one handed bowler.

you used the word truncating the core with the pin in the palm layout as well. what's the difference in numbers and motion when comparing pin down and pin in the palm?

6:51 The replay is a different shot , where is the 10 pin in the replay ??

Let’s go 30K

What layout system did you use?

Ready for that giveaway 😍🥜

Hi Mikey, got a question. Legality aside, can I have a one-hander layout on my bowl while bowling two handed? Does it adversely affect the ball motion in any way? Cheers!

Before I watch does this matter for 2 handlers ?

Hi Mike, I wonder if it's the same concept for two handed bowlers as well?

Happy birthday to Chris!

Only if the Pro shop was in San Diego haha

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What about pin through the ring finger?

Hello Mikey. Why do I track so high I'm damn near a full roller?

Should I do a pin up and pin down on the same ball, or should I change to a weaker or stronger ball, if I want to have both in the same bag?

C'mon 30K!!!

Hi mike, so I'm a low rev low speed bowler and I play league in a house that is medium to medium dry and I have been taking strong asymmetrical balls and drilling them short pin. After watching this video I'm kinda interested in drilling one pin down, how would a pin down layout look compared to a short pin layout? what can I expect to see? Will the pin down hook less or more and will it change the shape of the ball motion? I need to know, thanks for the video.

Good job Mike! So pin down, the ball rolls longer than hooks? Watching you throw the balls, the pin down was a tighter line than pin up? Aloha

I am looking forward to winning the ball and tote.

What do you mean by house shot?

Hey Mikey...so if you learn your layouts...doesn't that determine if it's pin up or pin down anyways??? for example if I know my dual angle layout and give it to my pro shop guy ...would the ball just come back pin up or pin down based on what I gave him??? Thanks

Since a pin down layout tends to be a slower/smoother arc and give you less overall board coverage, would it make sense to switch from pin up to pin down when the lanes start to get fried and you can't keep anything right of the headpin?

Hook up a homeowner! Holiday and palace all day!

Newbie question: Is the pin the pink dot or pink X?

I literally just taught myself the storm VLS system 🤦‍♂️ i should just always wait for Mikey to post a video, would have made it a lot easier lol

Omg I need a new ball bag it’s bad It’s so bad I’m worried the wheels are going snap off and they say I’m done I’m retiring. It’s held together by zip ties

I've been around bowling all of my life, and had started in the pro shop business back in 94. Worked in several shops until IT lured me away, but I have always been a student of the game. So when I saw this and knowing how many people get it wrong, I wanted to watch it to see if there were any holes in your video. There wasn't, but I do have a question that needs to be answered. So, on the pin down, you state that you are raising the RG and lowering diff. I agree with the lowering diff part, but not with the raising of the RG. By taking weight out of the top of the core, you are lowering the RG, no? You're making it more "core heavy" so more weight is near the center of the ball. And the inverse is true of putting the pin up. By putting hole in the side of the core, you are raising the RG because you are making the core taller. If there is an explanation that covers why pin down raises the RG and pin up lowers the RG, please let me know.