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Pinball FX3 Setup Guide for the AtGames Legends Pinball Machine

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@martinlear6414
@martinlear6414 3 жыл бұрын
Superb video, very informative and to the point. I am sure this will help many people out.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Martin!
@timwise1014
@timwise1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk I would like to so this. What laptop programs to I need on my computer to do this? Would appreciate it
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
@@timwise1014 Hi Tim, full guide that walks you through the entire thing here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/ and also, the video. Hop that helps!
@timwise1014
@timwise1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Or I could hire you to do it :) computer chalkenged here.
@SHOTAMAN77
@SHOTAMAN77 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk can you help me with why my LegendsPB-WTT.zip file won't let me extract the files
@DidYouReadEULA
@DidYouReadEULA Жыл бұрын
Due to your valuable time, attention and tutorials, I got FX3 running on my ALP!! Thank you!! Once I disabled vsync in nVidia control panel and FX3 as I discovered on reddit, the flipper lag disappeared. Sorcerer's Stone and all the others look and play fantastic! Love to hear the dude say "You are not welcome here!!"
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Awesome news! Happy to hear you're up and running, hope you enjoy it my friend!
@levilinseman4736
@levilinseman4736 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you for putting this fantastic work together. After watching this I purchased a ALP pinball with vibs board and the haptics kit from Buy Stuff Arcade and this is really awesome to have in my basement. We have come a long way since playing these games in arcades and bowling alleys back in the day. How cool to have something like this in the basement and for a really good price in my opinion. Your videos are thoughtful and easy to follow I Love the virtual table with all the different games. Thanks again!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Levi! It's been a rough past 24 hours (son was in a car accident, he's ok). Your message is very uplifting and appreciated!
@biggsywolves3279
@biggsywolves3279 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this guide, really helped me set up my ALP with Pinball FX3 - working perfectly. Was expecting it to be a pain but with this guide I had it working in no time - cheers!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Glad it helped, have a great weekend!
@oaksho
@oaksho 2 жыл бұрын
I built a pin cab a few years ago and run about 200 tables on it including FX3. This cab however is a game changer and makes the world of pinball more readily available to people. I might just sell my old Cab and purchase one of these. Your content is really well appreciated and has given me the urge to start playing pinball again. Many thanks for posting this tutorial. Tony. 👍👍
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony, I've been totally impressed with this machine. I have some additional modding videos coming, one later this week. For an overview of some of the different ways to use this machine you may want to see this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Just as an fyi - if you decide you want to pick one up, there is a good sale starting 6/16. BitPixel HV, VIBS Board, Arcade Control Panel, etc. are some items that you may want if you decide to pick one up. More details here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news . There will likely be another sale in ~3 mo., so no rush if you miss this one. No idea what will be in the next sale.
@clarkg5946
@clarkg5946 3 жыл бұрын
Just got everything set up on my Legends pinball and it is great. I would have never been able to do it properly without this video. Thanks so much!!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Clark, so glad it was helpful to you!
@LarryTalbot_1313
@LarryTalbot_1313 3 ай бұрын
Its 2024 and I'm using a Legends HD and this guide is epic!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Awe, thank you, Larry! Several more at wagnerstechtalk.com/guides if you need them.
@davysmith8569
@davysmith8569 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! This should be on everyone's radar. Clear, crisp and consise.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, hope it's helpful!
@sp3ed279
@sp3ed279 3 жыл бұрын
Great detail on the setup from a completely new Pc. Only thing I did differently was being this machine was dedicated to my ALP, I set my monitor 1 to portrait. Having to navigate pc / steam sideways until I get into fx3 or steam zaccaria just didn’t seem worth it. Luckily it works flawlessly.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, got it and definitely understand.
@jasonforderer
@jasonforderer 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i followed your setup and it is a pain having to sit beside the alp and navigate landscape. ive got the hang of using the trackball and can get around the desktop for minor windows tweaks before i launch the game. i use teamviewer as per your recommendations when i have to do some more major files tranfers etc. wouldnt it make more sense to setup alp playfield to portrait and then tweak settings in fx3 to show playfield portrait? would be easier to navigate in windows prior to launch. will this work or screw things up?
@Soapskid
@Soapskid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Got mine all setup. Watched your video numerous times and your Reddit post.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear you're good-to-go! Hope to have more guides available for more fun ways of getting the most out of your ALP! I appreciate you watching/using the guides. Don't hesitate to let me know what you want to see in the future.
@ritualdelo
@ritualdelo 3 жыл бұрын
Man this video is the best I’ve seen I sincerely thank you
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! I'm happy it is helpful to you 👍
@show-me-retro
@show-me-retro 3 жыл бұрын
My VIBS board just shipped so thank you for this!!!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, I think you're gonna love it! Love your channel SMR!
@hagar2167
@hagar2167 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my ATlegneds "PLUS" pinball, Dec 4,2021. (wonder what the "PLUS means) Hope it has the latest install. And this vid just stoked me to I can't wait to try this very informative video. And the time you put into it. I surely do appreciate it. Very well done.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comments, you're going to love it! I've got a bunch more information (and videos) on my website here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/ . The "Plus" is that it includes Zaccaria Table volumes 1-4 (127 licensed tables). You'll have plenty of tables to play when it arrives 😎
@GregWidener
@GregWidener 3 жыл бұрын
This is top notch KZfaq content, sir! Well done and thank you! I can't wait to duplicate your setup!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg, much appreciated! I hope you find it helpful in getting up and running quickly. 👍😎
@ztothepunk
@ztothepunk 2 жыл бұрын
Video was really good and helped me get going. I wish it had settings for if you're running the playfield in windows in portrait mode though. Going back and forth between screens facing left and normal when in windows outside of pinball fx makes a real nuisance.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad it was helpful! If I'm going to spend more than a few minutes setting something up on the PC, I use the Team Viewer. More on that here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Remote_Desktop_Connection
@hambonious
@hambonious Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting this together. It works great! 😁
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, glad you're up and running!
@rockytreadway4397
@rockytreadway4397 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This is what an instructional video should be. Very well done!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Rocky, really appreciate your kind feedback!
@ninjaawesomebattlepower
@ninjaawesomebattlepower Жыл бұрын
Wow! Well done, and thank you so much for this information!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@josephsmalldridge3128
@josephsmalldridge3128 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ALP videos, just got mine a couple of weeks ago. I’ve got the ALP cabinet nudge feature and plunger working in FX3 and VPX if interested.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, when you say you got the nudge+plunger working are you saying you used j2k here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey ?
@josephsmalldridge3128
@josephsmalldridge3128 2 жыл бұрын
No, I’m not using joy2key, was trying to eliminate as much latency as possible, using direct input only
@SergioHernandez813
@SergioHernandez813 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get the nudge working? And working via buttons or the actual physical nudging the table?
@ezuzek
@ezuzek Жыл бұрын
I'd love to know how you got it working without joy2key. I can't get the plunger working correctly. At least not well enough to do skill shots. It just doesn't respond like a plunger actually would.
@dvivona1
@dvivona1 2 жыл бұрын
Got it running again! Yeah!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome buddy, have fun!
@UAG
@UAG 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed it!
@ericlintemuth6398
@ericlintemuth6398 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Where do you live? Come over and do mine! LOL...Good instructions from start to finish. Really informative! Got to be a techy, which I am not.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
LOL glad you found it helpful Eric! They best way to learn this stuff is to just jump in. If I can help, just let me know.
@ericlintemuth6398
@ericlintemuth6398 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk ...I may just do that..but I'm kinda gun-shy from trying to modify my UltraPin from a few years ago.
@darkon5892
@darkon5892 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I was having a lot of trouble getting a reliable non-laggy USB connection between my gaming PC and the ALP and your info (In the video and on your site) were what I needed to finally get things working well. I had tried 2 or 3 different USB cables...one worked reliably but had too much lag, another would constantly lose connection. I tried a powered USB hub since I heard that could fix the lag, but no luck with the HUB I had. I finally broke down and spent the $30 for the hub and cable you used (plus another $10 for the magnetic beverage holder!) and finally had a near-zero flipper lag (certainly good enough to play well..finally!). I did have a few issues/differences from your video. One was that I needed to set the ALP screen to portrait orientation in my Windows display settings. When I would do landscape in Windows and then rotate in ALP or Steam, the display would get screwed up. It's likely I had something set wrong between my ALU's orientation setting and the Steam/FX3 orientation setting, but I was able to get things working fine by simply adjusting the DMD/backglass coordinates in FX3 so it worked out fine in the end. Also had an issue with the controls, but tracked that down to some previously configured settings in Steam for the ALP controls that were interfering with the Joy2Key settings. After cleaning out the controller settings in Steam, the problem went away. Another challenge was tracking down the backglass graphics and the correct DMD/backglass coordinate settings for FX3. Would love a link to the backglass graphics you used in your video because they look pretty nice. I got the backglass stuff working on an external monitor and now I'm just waiting for my VIBS board to arrive...it's been in "ready for pickup" status for about a week now, but still isn't showing it has been picked up. But once I get it installed, everything else should be ready to go. Thanks again for the very detailed instructions!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, happy it was helpful! I'm out of town, using my phone to reply. It was shown in the video, but need to set the hdmi to otg, main and 90. Then my settings will work. I'll add clarification when I get back on the guide. I linked to some artwork from a fb thread, but may not b the exact set shown. I'll hunt it down and add it to the guide if it's not the same and I can locate it. Thank you for all your feedback and for watching. More will be coming, just a start.
@darkon5892
@darkon5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the response and look forward to the art links. I thought there might be more info on FB, but I don't have a FB account and AtGames making their FB area private prevents me from seeing anything.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
As promised, see the 3rd bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations where it says this archive (link). I had the right thread linked.
@psbfan01
@psbfan01 Жыл бұрын
This is a lot of work. Holy cow!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
For FX3, it's not as bad as it seems. Baller Installer, on the other hand, is a lot more effort but well-worth it.
@ponyxpress3
@ponyxpress3 3 күн бұрын
I have a Radeon RX570 video card. I followed everything most everything in your video, but cant get the backglass to display at the same time as the table. The only thing I have setup different is both HDMI connections directly from the video card. I have the table directly input into the video card, and the other VIBS into a HDMI/DVI converter. I can get the backglass to display if i switch the connections on video card. Do I need the station setup like you have?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 күн бұрын
Some AMD cards may have difficulty as discussed here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#PC_Requirements . You may want to adjust the AMD Software settings to see if you can get it to work. In my early testing, I started with an AMD GPU but wound up switching to NVIDIA for similar reasons.
@musicmike2840
@musicmike2840 Жыл бұрын
Really great video!! Thank you!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Very welcome and thank you!
@jeffmcmahon5428
@jeffmcmahon5428 3 жыл бұрын
Hi - added the LegendsPB-WTT config file to JoyToKey documents folder, but the settings don't appear when I open JoyToKey. Will they only show up when connected to the ALP, or should I see them on my PC when it's not connected to ALP? Should I remove JoyToKey Config 1 and replace with LegendsPB-WTT. I can't seem to get the settings from the new config to show up.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you completely close out of JoyToKey (see taskbar icon at the bottom right). Then re-start and you should see it in the list.
@ericwilliam2835
@ericwilliam2835 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Just way out of my league.. I think I might try, but will fail! Old school guy that has owned OG coin op pins back in 1999 ; Frankenstein, Elvira, Tales from the Crypt, Dracula, Freddy, etc. and had to sell them off in 2018 due to life! I just bought this Atgames pinball in hopes to get these games back to play! I was way off! I guess I will stick to the games it came with which are pretty cool! If anyone can help out with a easier way to get the games mentioned on my Atgames Legends Pinball, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, I totally get it. That's part of why I created this guide: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . It meshes other guides into one that steps you through everything. Please start at the beginning here, take your time and I hope it walks you through the process in an easier to consume manner. It won't be that hard, you should be able to get going with FX3 within an hour or less.
@ericwilliam2835
@ericwilliam2835 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the kind reply brother, I appreciate it! I think I'm going to give it a go due to your positive response and Digital Victory on youtube along with many positive responses on VP Universe! You guys are way cool and so stoked now to make it happen! Thanks for all your hard work to help out others, so admirable! Happy New Year man!!!
@TheDualityeq
@TheDualityeq Жыл бұрын
The score part of my table is still on the main screen. How do I move it to the back glass?
@matravi10
@matravi10 9 ай бұрын
Hello there, I see the JoyToKey Profile I downloaded/copied listed. It's highlighted when I open JoyToKey. The flippers are still not working ( not a single button or flipper is working ) . What could I be possibly be doing wrong ?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like something with the OTG connection. Please see here for some tips that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting (the 3rd point is how to check)
@dsgitlin
@dsgitlin 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Would love to see a similar video for Pinball Emporium. Thanks!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia 2 жыл бұрын
Man... i really wish they had USB access in back of the machine or underneath it because those wires look like ASS!!!!! lol. Other than that i'm looking forward to getting one of these, and setting it up with a PC eventually, likely going to swap out that horrid backbox for the $500+ version offered on buystuff. I nearly bought a really expensive custom machine but i hear it's best to mod these yourself and learn the ins and outs of the software so they're easier to troubleshoot when things go wrong. PLUS if i can't manage to get things running well enough, i'll always have the default tables and optional Zaccaria/Taito ones to fall back on.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
It would be ideal to have the USB+HDMI at the back. At one point I was thinking of designing a 3D printed cover (to hide the wires), but when I asked for feedback few seemed interested in it. I may do it anyway, at some point. Not sure if you've seen this guide, but you may find it helpful: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1
@coinop29
@coinop29 Ай бұрын
So I followed these directions and it’s working, but, sometimes when I launch FX3, the backglass screen is not recognized by FX3 and it’s blank, despite the playfield working. Is there a way to insure the backglass always shows when launching the app?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Ай бұрын
The blank/black screen on the backglass simply means the artwork is missing for the selected table. Look closely and you'll see a path with a file name mentioned. You can locate the artwork for the table, rename it exactly as what's shown and place it in that folder and the artwork will show up for it.
@coinop29
@coinop29 Ай бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! actually the screen isn't black, it just shows the rest of the extended desktop.. meaning that FX3 is not using both screens... I need to figure out why it won't launch and use both screens all the time... Any ideas?
@RVJimD
@RVJimD 3 ай бұрын
Is my steam deck capable of this or does it have to be a windows pc? Is the vibs board required? Are there different steps for the micro? Thanks!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
VIBS is required only if you want to use the backglass on the micro. More on VIBS/Micro here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro . Steam Deck with the ALP (HD) is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/sd-alp , basically the same on the micro.
@stevenrobinsonpictures
@stevenrobinsonpictures Ай бұрын
Don't understand the first bit about the drive backup? What drive? I just connect up the laptop, hdmi and USB to the pinball legends and play it with joytokey and FX3. FX is way too laggy compared and I cannot get it better, despite killing v sync etc. I am running 4070 and an I9 on my laptop with 16GB Ram./
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Ай бұрын
It's an optional step, just made an image backup of the drive as it was sent from the Mfgr. nothing more.
@stevenrobinsonpictures
@stevenrobinsonpictures Ай бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk aw ok. Do you notice FX has more lag than FX3?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Ай бұрын
This section helped with my configuration: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp4k-pcsetup/#Improve_Latency_with_NVIDIA_GPUs
@brianburns4063
@brianburns4063 Жыл бұрын
A big thanks to you for sharing clear instructions that help many people get more out of their ATGames Legends Pinball machines! And a question: I see that the new Zen Pinball FX platform now offers cabinet support, yet I find nothing on the Internet about anyone getting that working on the ALP. Is it possible now to play the new Pinball FX on the ALP?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Very welcome and thank you! Yes, FX does have cabinet support but it's severely lacking -imo. I started creating a guide on it, but stopped until support is further along. One key feature of cabinet support is the ability to rotate the playfield display. At the time I started (about 1.5 months ago), it wasn't built-in to FX and as far as I know still isn't. There was a hack that made it possible, but required using Baller Installer to do so. Just didn't make sense for me to continue until the support is there. Hope that clarifies. Once Zen implements it fully, I'll revisit and revive the guide I started. The last thing I want to do is create a guide that is so convoluted no one will appreciate it and I'd get tons of negative feedback.
@iniparam2k
@iniparam2k 3 жыл бұрын
I'm having serious flipper lag on my ALP with FX3. So bad, no table is playable. When I connect the pc to a monitor there's no lag at all. What am I missing? JoytoKey doesn't seem to do anything. I have to use the pc keyboard. Again..am I missing something? Please help.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have the latest firmware (there was a patch that went out Sat.), see if that fix the issue. Last bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Operation
@argniests5357
@argniests5357 Жыл бұрын
this video will be very helpful. Did you make a video like this but for Pinball Arcade on Steam?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
No I didn't, mainly because they charged a lot for cabinet mode support and wasn't going to spend the extra $. I'm cheap lol
@familyguy610
@familyguy610 Жыл бұрын
So, how do you send the images to the backglass. Followed the video completely, but this seems to be left out. Where is the step showing the image being sent to the backglass display? I can't seem to find this information anywhere, in any guide. It just seems like you set the settings, and it works upon launch. However, I'm getting nothing on the backglass except the static windows display.
@familyguy610
@familyguy610 Жыл бұрын
It was the side-by-side screen setup in display manager. Nice.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Just double-checking, you're good to go now right?
@georgeengland6163
@georgeengland6163 2 жыл бұрын
Joytokey folder only shows a notepad file. I can open Joy to key though no problem. The legends pinball file does not have a controller next to it. I still dropped under the joytikey file and nothing... Any help would be great
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure that you copy the file after exiting j2k (right-click the icon on the taskbar and terminate). Copy the profile, then restart j2k, should pick it up then.
@obrien14
@obrien14 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids .. but how come your vpx and fx3 tables look so bright on the ALP?? Mine look a bit dull and dont pop anywhere near as much as yours do .. is there settings or anything anywhere to adjust brightness settings??
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Thank you! How do the stock tables look? If they look bright/colorful there, it may be a setting in the graphics card you're using with the ALP. That's where I'd start looking.
@zachhenry638
@zachhenry638 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your video for install. Everything is working perfectly for me except visual pinball. For some reason the leprechaun table loads the playfield behind the top screen on my legends pinball. Future pinball works great but not sure what would be causing the other issue.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful Zach. The video you're commenting on is for FX3, I'm assuming you saw the guide and video here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi/#Initial_Configuration . Are you using a VIBS board on your ALP? If so, the top screen/backglass should be position to the VIBS display.
@monsterface71
@monsterface71 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Question...do I need to enter my cabinet code every time I log in? Is there a way for it to retain the code I received from Zen?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Once you enter your code, it should "stick". I think over the years I've had to enter it twice so hold on to it, just incase.
@garysmith1137
@garysmith1137 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to set up FX3 on my Legends Pinball, but all I get on my playfield is my computer's main home screen in landscape position. It does not move, just shows same thing. Does not show my mouse and nothing works. My back screen works perfect and shows everything I do on the computer, mouse works, etc. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm using all the cables you used when setting the Legends Pinball to Steam Deck in your video about 10 days ago. Thanks in advance. Gary
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like your displays are oriented properly, but double-check the settings for the display here (2nd bullet point): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . Also, make sure when you pressed the Channel button you set things like this: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input
@MichaelBtheGameGenie
@MichaelBtheGameGenie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this. I am a little confused, how did you set up the second HDMI connection into the VIBS exactly? I rewinded the vide 20 times and I still can't understand. Did you somehow do USB from your computer to HDMI or did you split the HDMI. I am so excited to set this up but also so so very confused
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi MichaelB, for the second HDMI connection to the VIBS board I could have used a DV to HDMI adapter on the PC. But, I was previously testing another PC (which didn't work out) and on that PC I had used a USB 3.0 to dual-HDMI adapter. My thought is to use the 2nd HDMI port at a later time for a dedicated DMD. The HDMI Adapter worked great on both machines (the one I returned and the new one I setup recently). So, I stuck with that. All the non-AtGames hardware (and software) can be found on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Additional_Hardware . It should help quite a bit, especially the JoyToKey tutorial which basically you download the LegendsPB-wtt archive and everything will be pretty much ready to go. I did make a minor change to that file to allow using the A/B button on your Arcade Control Panel for a Lef/Right mouse click. Hope all this helps!
@jimthompson3778
@jimthompson3778 2 жыл бұрын
My ALP controller is not being detected by Windows. It's acting like I have no controllers plugged in at all. When I plug the USB cable in, it makes the windows chime and opens a folder, so I know everything is connected, but I can't figure out how to get it to work. Any ideas?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim, please see this -should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
@ccapozzoli1
@ccapozzoli1 Жыл бұрын
Ok. How do you get the sound to work? I have a PC with a graphics card, so the sound can't come thru the graphics card. What do I do?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
The sound will come through the primary HDMI (playfield). You likely need to click the small speaker icon on the taskbar and set it to the primary HDMI. Also, make sure that the HDMI cable from the graphics card is plugged into the top port on the ALP. Also, see the last point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting
@nateandphoebe
@nateandphoebe Жыл бұрын
Do you need 2 hdmi ports, as well as a usb 3.0 to usb cord on your pc to play fx3 with backglass display? My pc has 1 hdmi port, 1 ethernet port, and 3 usb ports...... I don't have any usb-type c ports either.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
If you want anything to show up on the backglass while connected to a PC, you'll need the VIBS board and a 2nd HDMI port. This guide goes into much more detail: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1 . Yes, you will need a USB cable (A-to-A) between the PC and the ALP, it's what allows the flippers, nudge and ball launch buttons to work.
@gonzonia
@gonzonia 2 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful! For some reason though my plunger just doesn't work in FX3 with Joy2Key. I can use the "Enter" (forward nudge) button to launch but the plunger does nothing. JoytoKey seems to think my "Sitck 2
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, glad this was helpful! Not sure why your plunger wouldn't work with the j2k profile. Did you maybe map it in steam prior to running j2k? That's the only thing I can think of, some other app. is responding to the button event (plunger) outside of j2k.
@gonzonia
@gonzonia 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk It did work at first but once I set it up in steam it stopped. Even after trying to remove steam, reinstall steam, etc. I like how it works with the steam controller better anyhow. The problem with the j2k profile is that it's not as responsive to the movement since it's technically the equivalent of holding the enter key.
@wc3362
@wc3362 Жыл бұрын
Is there no way to just stream your PC Steam pinball games to the ALP? That would save you trouble of drilling holes and sitting a PC next to the ALP.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Might be able to use LegendsLink. Not sure how well it will perform, I don't use it myself.
@vinniecannotuna8617
@vinniecannotuna8617 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just got mine setup last night. I had one question though, why do you keep the playfield in landscape mode? Isn’t there a way to adjust the rotations in FX3 and have it in portrait mode. It sure is a pain to start up with everything sideways. Also, how do you boot straight into FX3 from Windows 10? Thanks
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Most of the sites recommend the playfield in Landscape and I tend to agree. Plus, if you change it to portrait none of the settings in the guide will work as the display layout numbers in FX3 will all need to be re-calculated and update. You can copy the shortcut for FX3 to your /Startup group in Windows. When you boot, it will launch then.
@mutechannel13
@mutechannel13 3 жыл бұрын
I have the raspberry pi image on this... it's fun... but not as good as a vertical pinball cab... cool vid
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@joshuapolamalu294
@joshuapolamalu294 Жыл бұрын
Love the video! So I followed everything and for some reason my laptop displays my fx3 while my atgames machine just shows my desktop.. can you help?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joshua! When arranging the displays, move your laptop display to the far-right. Far-left should be your Playfield monitor. If you have a VIBS board and connected, it would be in the middle of the 3. See the 2nd point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@joshuapolamalu294
@joshuapolamalu294 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you so much! So I ordered my Vibs board just recently and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to see if I can play FX3 without the VIBS board. Also, I was able to get the FX3 to show on my atgames monitor. However when I use and of my buttons to play. Nothing seems to work. I have to use the laptop to play while it shows on my machine. Any help? Also.. thank you so so much for reaching out and your help!!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
No problem, happy to help out! Did you connect a USB-A to USB-A cable (also known as OTG) between the ALP and your laptop? Here's a quick setup that should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Quick_Setup . A powered hub is only needed if the OTG connection isn't connecting to the PC (some PC's may need it).
@jasonforderer
@jasonforderer 2 жыл бұрын
got fx3 running thanx to your walkthru so thanks for that. only thing im noticing is that sides of the playfield are slighly cut off. some tables worse than others. i cant even see the shooter lane on indiana jones. thoughts? just wondering if normal or i need to tweak some settings
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Great news Jay, happy to hear it was helpful to you! One thing I can think of off-hand is to check and make sure both displays are scaled to 100% in Windows. During the initial setup, Windows may try to scale it to 150% which might explain the issue you're seeing. See the 2nd bullet point here for more details: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@incognito3728
@incognito3728 2 жыл бұрын
How do you clear the controls in Steam Fx3? They are already set by default to the keyboard and mouse. I read your instructions and it said to clear the controls if they are set, in order to use Joy2key
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't map anything yourself, just the j2k profile is all you need to setup.
@incognito3728
@incognito3728 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you sir
@cedricbvonsydow
@cedricbvonsydow 4 ай бұрын
Well done for your video ! Is it the same path for micro pinball?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I assume you mean the AtGames Legends Pinball Micro? If so, yes. Remember, what you see in this video is coming from a connected PC so it would be the same regardless if it's on the larger ALP or the smaller ALPu. Hope that helps!
@obrien14
@obrien14 Жыл бұрын
Hey wagner ... is there a way to get the down button on the D pad to also launch the ball? Aswell as the plunger? Many thanks. Your videos are amazing and have been a huge help
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
You could, but it would make navigating menus harder as you would only be able to go up/left/right (not down). Glad to hear the videos have been helpful to you!
@jaredionin
@jaredionin Жыл бұрын
Is the process the same for Pinball FX? It seems like Pinball FX3 is no longer having new tables added?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Developed an entirely new guide for Pinball FX here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx . However, the good news is the Xpadder application/profile mentioned on this guide also works with FX3/VPX/FP. Hope you find it helpful!
@tennesseefallsforests2730
@tennesseefallsforests2730 Жыл бұрын
So how do you hook up to the internet if you do not have a VIBS board??? You show how with the VIBS but not without. Thanks in advance
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
The VIBS board is only used to provide the ability to use the backglass with a PC (or Steam Deck, etc.) It has nothing to do with Internet access. If you want to connect the ALP to the Internet, you have two options: WiFi or Ethernet. If you have a connected PC, it would also typically use either WiFi or Ethernet.
@ztothepunk
@ztothepunk 2 жыл бұрын
My usb 3 port on alp has not worked since day one. And still doesn't work even after a replacement of both boards and the cable. Support and myself are both confounded by this. Nothing in usb 3 detects. The hmdi input and usb2 ports do work. Because of this. My alp tables are saved on usb flash drive plugged into usb 2. To avoid a bunch of back and forth. I thought a powered hub plugged into my usb 2 would be the answer. While the flash drive loads, steam does not detect my alp controls when the OTG cable is plugged into one of the hubs 4 ports. I have to have OTG direct connect to pc and ALP, making my usb hub useless. Any advice? Is your hub connected to your ALP with your OTG cable to pc in one of the ports? Or is the hub connected to your pc with the OTG to ALP in one of the ports?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
The powered USB hub is connected to the PC, in my case. I would try plugging the USB drive and OTG cable into this hub: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L32B9C2 and the OTG cable from this hub to the powered USB Hub on the PC and see if that works. Just a thought, I've not had this issue so can't be 100% sure if it will help.
@garysmith1137
@garysmith1137 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. My only question from another person's video on the same thing. Do the back glass images for fx3 have to be in png format or is jpeg ok? I'm installing this week. Thanks Gary
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary, they can be .jpg format. See here for more info: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@douglaspatterson8415
@douglaspatterson8415 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Very helpful and my games are running great. Unfortunately the sound doesn't work well. It is low volume. I have my pc volume at 100%, the Legends volumes settings all the way up, and all of the FX3 volume slides at high, but still get weak sound. Tried switching the HDMI cable but no help there. Don't have weak sound when playing the games installed on the machine, but also get weak volume with Visual Pinball and Future Pinball. Any thoughts? Could it have anything to do with Nvidia settings? Thanks for any help you can provide.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Douglas, happy you've got everything working! The very last bullet point here is if there is no sound: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting which doesn't seem to be exactly the issue you're having. But, it reads: No sound when using FX3/VPX or Future Pinball (OTG) - click the speaker icon in the lower-right of the taskbar in Windows. Make sure it’s set to output audio to the primary HDMI output (your backglass). Once set properly, the audio should play through just fine. I'd double check the playfield HDMI connection is the primary HDMI, then adjust the volume control in Windows and see if that helps. If not, honestly not sure what may be the cause. If it sounds fine on the ALP itself but weak audio only when the PC is connected, it's something on the PC/Windows side that I've not seen. May just take some additional tinkering/searching to find a solution. Sorry I may not be very helpful in this reply. You can also ask your question on the Legends Ultimate subreddit here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate , good chance someone there has had the same issue and can be more helpful.
@JustinK4
@JustinK4 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I missed it but I couldn’t find in your guide or the video. Where do you get the back glass images? I saw reference in another video that you had to download them individually and install? I don’t see that step here.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
No problem, please see the 3rd bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@JustinK4
@JustinK4 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk You’re the best!
@JuicyPiickle
@JuicyPiickle Жыл бұрын
I've been using that file that you talk about on here for joy2key, it works great, unfortunately my plunger is broken and I'm forced to launch the ball using the enter key on my keyboard, i have the arcade control panel installed on my legends pinball, is there anyway i can change the button on joy2key to launch the ball with like my X,Y OR Z top buttons? Cause they don't do anything in fx3 right now anyway, and i dont think i can launch my wizard power either on fx3 with this setup the way the file comes, please help me out if you can, really just want to be able to map my wizard power button and especially the launch the ball button to my control panel so I don't have to use my keyboard at all anymore while playing fx3
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
There is already an alternative mapped, press and hold the forward nudge button to launch the ball. Should work fine for you.
@JoelChan-si8sy
@JoelChan-si8sy Жыл бұрын
@WagnersTechTalk You have one of the best setup videos around. The holy grail of ALP setup videos! Can you please help with something that happened with my Pinball setup? My setup was working great but then for some reason Pinball FX3 stopped displaying on the ALP. It shows up on my laptop but now on the ALP I just get a black screen with a URL on the side of the screen that says: c:\program files [x86]\steam\steamapps\common\pinball fx3\data\steam\pinballfx3.[bmp, gif, png, jpg, jpeg] No idea what to do about this. Please help. Thanks!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joel! I think what's happened here is that Windows got confused with the monitor/HDMI arrangement. Try plugging the HDMI connections in the same way you had it working before. Then restart the PC and see if Windows restores everything back. If not, the black screen you're seeing is the backglass display. See the 2nd point here to make sure your displays are arranged properly: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . The first point here has a .jpg file that I created as a default backglass image until a game is selected: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
@dinomike811
@dinomike811 Жыл бұрын
Hello Wagner's Thanks for the set up. I am however getting 1 problem. My backglass still shows black screen with location path. Yes I have vibs. What do I need to do to fix this?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, did you see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations for copying the artwork?
@dinomike811
@dinomike811 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your help. It seemed to work. You mentioned fan communities for made backglass. ?
@pinballcabinet
@pinballcabinet 2 жыл бұрын
I do not understand I have copied the config file to the joytokey subfolder but it never shows up in joytokey???
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Probably missed the step of exiting J2K and restarting it. See the 2nd bullet point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey
@hooyagrandma
@hooyagrandma Жыл бұрын
@WagnersTechTalk I'm so thankful for your video. I've ran into quite a problem with the display, however. When I hook everything up, the backglass display shows the main screen and the main display shows what should be on the backglass. My laptop only has two USB ports and one HDMI. So I bought an HDMI to USB adapter and used both USB ports and the one HDMI port. Did I do that incorrectly? Why are the videos on the backglass and main displays switched? Thanks for any help you can provide!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Hi Joel, I think the problem in this case is that the arrangement of the displays is wrong in Windows. Click the Identify button, there you'll likely see the backglass as 1, Playfield as 2. Instead, this move the displays around such that the playfield is on the far left, then the backglass, any other display to the far right. More on the settings for each on the 2nd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations Make sure they are fully aligned at the tops of each displays (don't want them crooked in anyway or it will throw things off - straight line at the top of each display).
@hooyagrandma
@hooyagrandma Жыл бұрын
@WagnersTechTalk Thanks. So, I checked out the display and it shows I have three displays. The first box says "1/3" and the second box says "2". When I plugged in the USB and HDMI from the Pinball machine it only showed "1" and "2" and worked fine. I bought a USB to HDMI adapter to connect the VIBS board to the laptop and when I added the VIBS connection to the second USB port that's when it showed 3 screens. My laptop only has 2 USB ports and 1 HDMI which is why I got the adapter. Thanks for your help.
@hooyagrandma
@hooyagrandma Жыл бұрын
@WagnersTechTalk Hi! How would I get my Display options to show two screens instead of three screens please given my above reply. Thanks so much in advance for whatever help you can provide me! I really appreciate it.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
You could use the HDMI out from the laptop as the playfield display, then one of the other HDMI ports for VIBS. Anything connected to an HDMI port is going to show up under Windows. I hope this answers your question. From the adapter standpoint, only one of those should be needed/connected.
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't able to find / get a cabinet code so couldn't get past the first step here. Any ideas would be great.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
It may take them a day or two to send it to you.
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I got the cabinet code - but as mentioned before I couldn't get Joy2Key working with my Micro.... ideas?
@adamratz8689
@adamratz8689 2 жыл бұрын
When I connect my pc to the agl, the display will not show up on the cab. I am in otg mode my display settings are 100% and 1080p. My MacBook works fine. Not sure what the issue is with the pc
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Connect the HDMI/OTG cables to your PC, power off the ALP, wait 10 sec. and back on and re-try. As long as the display is set to 1080p and 100% as you said, should show up. If not, double check the main playfield display (far left display) is set the same. Maybe you're looking at the Backglass instead? Hard to tell.
@adamratz8689
@adamratz8689 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk so I hooked up another monitor to my pc and I got it to display as the second and it looked great. I switched the alp to be the main display and unplugged the second monitor from the pc and my alp screen went bonkers? I don’t really understand and the resolution automatically switched to something other than 1080 too I’m at a loss here
@RetroHenni
@RetroHenni 3 жыл бұрын
😲 thanks for sharing!
@danielparker6637
@danielparker6637 2 жыл бұрын
I followed your tutorial for setting up Joy to key it is not picking up the other file that I downloaded now as far as pinball fx3 ever since I downloaded that other stuff I no longer have any controls on the pinball fx3 I have the Legends pinball with the arcade stick I went into steam and try to set it up like an Xbox one controller. I also followed the pinup popper install video I first did this a few days ago and it worked fine now that I've installed pin-up popper I have no controls on anything that work only the keyboard and that's not what I want to play with since I have an app games Legends pinball machine. One issue that I have also had is when I did have it actually working it had no sound and nothing on the back glass and when I would back out of the game the screen would just continuously scroll very fast
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, not sure what other file that you downloaded but the correct profile will need to be selected in j2k for it to work. Also, if you define the button mapping in two places, you'll of course get double entries when pressing buttons. For more information on j2k, this section should help: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#How_to_Setup_JoyToKey
@calvindavis1071
@calvindavis1071 2 жыл бұрын
@Wagner'sTechTalk I am having an issue where I start up Pinball FX3, the whole playfield is dark but I hear the music playing but I can't see the animated PinballFX3 logo and the enter key that also appears on the screen. The only way I can get out of FX3 is to bring up the task manager and force close it.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
I've not encountered this issue. I'd double check the connections on both ends of the HDMI cable. If that doesn't help, try a different cable. I have had issues in the past where audio doesn't come through and it turned out to be a cheap HDMI cable I was using.
@calvindavis1071
@calvindavis1071 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you for your reply. I think I figured out what the problem was. It has to do with the screen orientation settings. In windows I set both screens to landscape and 270 in the settings for Pinball FX3. The question I have now is when I am standing at the ALP, the desktop is not in landscape, so I have to navigate sideways to get to the FX3 app to open it. Once it opens, the game is in portrait mode. Is there any way to have the desktop in landscape mode so that it is easier to navigate to an open the FX and Steam apps? By the way, I am using cabinet mode.
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
This tutorial is awesome except I can't get Joy2Key working with my AtGames Legends Micro Pinball machine. I used the file you suggested for mapping buttons but nothing worked. Is there an update to the key mappings for the Micro or is there another solution besides Joy2Key that will make the buttons on the Micro work? Thanks!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
j2k definitely works with the Micro as well, I used it with a Steam Deck running Windows. After copying the file, make sure that you exist/restart j2k. A few sections that should helop:wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#JoyToKey and wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Alternatively, you can map the buttons directly in Steam, if you prefer.
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Most mappings seem to work from Steam directly without the need for JoytoKey - except my right flipper button which isn't working for some reason.
@CurtisKaminski
@CurtisKaminski 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever make a video about capturing both fx3 screens using Teamviewer and OBS? It's definitely something that I'm interested in.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
I never made a video about it, noone asked (until now). But I did document a little bit here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Remote_Desktop_Connection
@chadhillard7769
@chadhillard7769 Жыл бұрын
How do you remove the dmd on the Williams tables. My main playfield screen has one on the top of the screen with graphics of the cab speakers that doesn't remove. The other tables are full screen. Thanks for any help!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Hi Chad, it's not something I dug into much. Don't recall off-hand if you can.
@Tavo1cv
@Tavo1cv Жыл бұрын
Great video. Quick question. I only have one hdmi on my PC and want to install vibs board. Is there any way I could use one of my DP slots as a extra hdmi out? Thank.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
I've not tried it, but pretty sure it will work. You'd just need a DP to HDMI adapter cable between the two and make sure you have the video signal set at 1920x1080, 100% scaling, landscape, etc. (guide and video mention this in more detail).
@Tavo1cv
@Tavo1cv Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will try it out..
@garysmith1137
@garysmith1137 2 жыл бұрын
Sent a comment earlier. Got everything working, but has flipper lag. Problem was with display settings. Thanks Have a steam deck on order, maybe that will fix flipper lag.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, I really didn't feel any noticeable flipper lag on the Steam Deck. Here are some things you can do to minimize flipper lag on the PC: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Minimize_Flipper_Latency
@scottsmindchill
@scottsmindchill Жыл бұрын
hi, at around @9:39 in the video you are showing how your main screen (the playfield) is set to landscape. I currently have my backglass screen (on the computer settings) set to portrait mode. And I can see everything on my computer (on the pinball arcade screen just fine with screen #1 being set to portrait). And I even have Pinball Arcade up and running using the joytokey, with this configuration (my #1 screen set to portrait, and my #2 set to landscape -like yours). So I am not sure why I would need or want to have my #1 screen on the PC, set to landscape....when it seems all pinball machine games will need the primary PC screen #1 to be in portrait mode. I hope that makes sense... Also if I left the screen #1 in landscape mode then it would look sideways when viewing it on the Arcade Legends pinball backglass (hence why my screen #1 is set to portrait mode currently). I have a feeling if I dont have the same settings as you showed in your video for the PC screen configuration, then when you explain all the cabinet mode settings in the Pinball FX 3, those settings would not work for me....since my screen #1 is already in portrait mode....So I was just wondering why you would not have have your screen#1 in the PC settings to be in portrait mode??? thanks
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
That's correct, in the guide you'll find landscape is how it's documented. Like you, I started with Portrait as it seemed to make the most sense. However, as I began setting up PinUP Popper it was clear the landscape would provide the ability to see the entire screen (in portrait, while trying to configure anything things won't fit properly). It became very problematic to launch VPX and not be able to see the entire screen or get much done in Windows. I also find it easier to use TeamViewer to remotely connect to the PC used by the ALP to configure it and it's easier to do in landscape orientations. I also found the community recommended using Landscape for similar reasons. So, went that way and simply rotate the display in software when the tables are launched. This has worked out well and the numbers I show in the guide should match fine if done that way. But, they won't if you stick with portrait. You'll have to do a bit of tweaking for the backglass/DMD positioning.
@scottsmindchill
@scottsmindchill Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk OK, I think I see what you are getting at. I would rather follow your directions, since it would save time in trying to figure out all the dimensions etc as you explained in your video. I could also use VNC or teamviewer etc, to remotely connect to my machine just like you mentioned, and operate it in landscape mode (without worrying about how it looked on the atgame pinball screen (if that happened to be turned on when I was messing with Steam and like Pinball FX 3, etc) And then, as you clarified in yuor comment above, I just use the settings within the software (Pinball FX3) to change Display settings. That makes sense. The only other thing about using Vertical mode on my Windows machine is that I want to play stuff like Worms Pinball and maybe some older games too (that may not have fancy Display settings like PFX3 has). So maybe in those cases, I can just rotate the settings of my primary monitor (and therefore the backglass) to play a game like Worms. Only time will tell, once I experiment some more with some of the more esoteric games like Worms and even some possible Gog.com pinball games like Epic pinball
@vonburemann9942
@vonburemann9942 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the images for the back glass for each of the steam tables??? I only saw the image you created for the default view under the guide. I need the images for each table so I can copy and paste in the file. Please help. Thanks in advance.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please see the 3rd bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations There are two links, one to a facebook thread the other to the archive from that thread. Those are the images I used for the backglass. Hope that helps!
@dinomike811
@dinomike811 2 жыл бұрын
Ok needs some help. I had this running on old PC. I have another PC that I cannot get the OTG controls to work and its making me nuts. Yes I use ugreen and atolla hub. When plugged in it just does not show up. In PC device manager how and where should it show up? Do you have video how to test with joy2key, I read it on your page but a video could help for visual learners. ?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have the OTG cable plugged into the USB 2.0 port (white connector on the ALP). It should work, everything I know is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting . Sounds like you've got the hardware you need, just double check all the connections.
@MrGigabomb
@MrGigabomb Жыл бұрын
Can you do this with the VIBS so that you only have the play field but the backglass is just not functioning? Also, JOY2KEY says trackball mimics mouse movement, I don't have a trackball on my ALP, how do you control or can you still use your mouse.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Sure, you can set it up such that everything goes to the playfield. Just skip the parts that discuss the backglass setup. To use the keyboard+mouse, you'd have to connect one to your PC or use the Arcade Control Panel (what this guide assumes you have). More on the ACP here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Arcade_Control_Panel_Installation
@MrGigabomb
@MrGigabomb Жыл бұрын
@Wagner's TechTalk great thanks!
@michaelmccomish
@michaelmccomish Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the videos! Couple questions... I finished my haptics and it works GREAT but in OTG mode the exciters don't seem to be working. On the original tables they work great. Secondly when installing the vibs board. I am able to view my desktop perfectly on the backglass but no images. (FX3) Any help would be greatly appreciated!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Very welcome Michael. I'll point you to some info. to help: 1. OTG Mode - It may be that you didn't press the switch button to swap from original tables to OTG (PC Audio, also here wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Troubleshooting or here if it's VPX that's an issue wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-haptics/#Option_1_Haptic_Effects ). 2. No artwork on backglass - see the 3rd point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations Until you select a table, you won't see any backglass artwork, here's one I made up that you're welcome to download (first point/link): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting Hope that gets everything going for ya!
@michaelmccomish
@michaelmccomish Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you again! Im sooo close, as the backglass is the only thing im still stuck on. The cabinet settings inside FX3 didn't work BUT when i inputted the settings on at games it put me close. The screen is solid black and the top shows the jpg switching through tables at the top but no image?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
2nd link above should get you to the artwork, you'll copy those files and next time you launch FX3 should see the backglass artwork.
@iceman0124
@iceman0124 6 ай бұрын
I'm trying to use Koy to key for my Legends pinball hD, I copy the WTT config file, paste in, it shows up in JtoK but its empty, all fields blank, uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times any help?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 6 ай бұрын
Locate the j2k icon on the taskbar (lower-right) and right-click it and terminate it. Then re-launch it and see if it shows up now?
@iceman0124
@iceman0124 6 ай бұрын
I tired that snd unisntalled and reinstalled, finally uninstalled, rebooted, installed, did not start, rebooted, loaded in the config file, restart, launched and it worked.....I'm sure the bulk of the restarts werent necessarry, but that menthod has worked in the past, having some lag issues with the flippers now, Vsync off in game abd CP, the back box quit working so I'm using a monitor plugged into the vid card for backglass and DMD.. Thanks! @@WagnersTechTalk
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
Another question is I couldn't get any backglass images to show up? On anothe rforum I was told that PBFX3 doesn't come with backglass images and you have to download them yourself and install them. Is there a video tutorial that just shows how to do that? I found most of the backglass images online in a shared Google Drive, but I'm not sure how to add them to PBFX3 and how to edit the settings.ini file.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
See 10:25 and the 3rd point here for the archive shown in the video: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@coinop29
@coinop29 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I actually followed this exactly but the images are not showing up. So I've used Retropie a lot in the past and it uses a gameslist.xml file that has all the data / directory information that points to the right images in the media folder - is there something like a gameslist.xml file in PBFX3 that would point to the right image files as well? Is that the settings.ini file? If so, where is that file? Or if not, do all the files have to be .jpg files or will .png work as well? Sorry for the long question!
@hornets303
@hornets303 21 күн бұрын
@@coinop29did you ever figure this out? I’m having the same issue. All the files are PNG I downloaded. I copied them in the directory but they still won’t appear on black glass. Just get black screen with the dot Matrix
@coinop29
@coinop29 20 күн бұрын
@@hornets303 yes I figured it ou - you just have to name them exactly the same as the table file in FX3 - then they will work.
@hornets303
@hornets303 20 күн бұрын
@@coinop29 heck yeah. That fixed the problem! When i downloaded they only were named table with a number. After renaming to match table name it pops up on back glass 🤝🏾
@vonburemann9942
@vonburemann9942 2 жыл бұрын
I installed the VIBS and set it all up following your video. But I don’t have any sounds when playing FX3 on the AT legends. Any suggestion how to get sound working on at pinball???
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Great news, please see the very last bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting entitled "No sound when using FX3/VPX or Future Pinball (OTG)"
@jayesposito1801
@jayesposito1801 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! One issue I can’t solve is how to get haptics to work in OTG mode. I am on latest firmware 5.65. Can you help I know many people are having this same issue.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you! I think we'll have to wait for the next firmware update to fix it.
@terryboss11
@terryboss11 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying the AMD APU will not work with the VIBs board? Is it the Vega graphics or atgames implementation? I was looking at some of the 5600 and 5700GX builds that ETA Prime was putting together. Don't want to waste my money on a a small PC build if it won't work.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
I can say the BeeLink mini-PC I initially started with did not work with the VIBS board without using an external USB Adapter (I used a dual HDMI adapter). There were many reasons why I returned it, mainly the GPU performance was terrible (and can't be upgraded, VEGA 10) I could see screen tearing during screen transitions. Many others have stated they had issues with an AMD GPU + VIBS. Wrote up a troubleshooting guide here to assist: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting . I won't say it won't work, but didn't work well for me at all and don't recommend it based on my personal experience.
@terryboss11
@terryboss11 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks very much. I think I will wait for the next AMD APU that will have the RDNA or wait for the video card prices to go down!
@CyberCiles
@CyberCiles 2 жыл бұрын
So Mr. Wagner what do you think of Zen Studios new upgrade to all their pinball tables & the fact that people have to re-buy all their tables for the new generation..& what’s your take on the ticket system they’re trying to implement..?..thank you‼️ HollerBack Wagner
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
First off, I'll be honest, I've not tried their new system/games yet (I did buy Indiana Jones for FX3 though and it's a cool table - but overpriced). I know it's been almost a month since it's release, though without the cabinet mode feature being available (at last I heard, should be available at any time) I'll wait until it is. Their ticketing system sounds like a pain and I'm not jumping at buying the same tables I already own just because a different publisher has released them. I'm sure the rendering engine will make a difference and that I'll be digging into it at some point.
@Spokane3D
@Spokane3D Жыл бұрын
Can someone please help me? Where in alp is the option to connect via ethernet? I clearly can see the wifi option but that's it. I have ethernet plugged in but no internet.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
If you're using a PC playing FX3 and need internet, the PC itself will need to be connected either via Ethernet or WiFi. When in OTG mode, the network is supplied by the PC and not the ALP. However, once out of OTG (playing stock tables), just plugging an Ethernet cable into the back of the ALP is all you need to do on the ALP itself. Make sure you see the link light and some blinking activity lights. If you don't, could be the cable or connection to the switch/router. Hope that helps!
@garysmith1137
@garysmith1137 2 жыл бұрын
I have my VIBS board installed and works. I am going to download steam and fx3 for the games that I purchased. I have the Legends Pinball Control panel installed, so after Joytokey is installed do I install LegendsPB-WTT or LegendsPB-WTT-PUP? Thanks Gary
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Either one will work with FX3, the one ending in PUP has additional buttons for PinUP Popper mapped (but also works with FX3). I'd say, go with the first one until such time that you want to use PinUP Popper. With PUP, you'll have to map two keys for the nudge in FX3 with LegendsPB-WTT you don't.
@JEdabody
@JEdabody 2 жыл бұрын
I have set up the vibs board and the pinball as instructed but I have no sound. Sound worked prior. Also on the table you can see the edge of the table at the top. Kind of narrows and and you can see the frame. Any thoughts?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph, see the very bottom bullet here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#VIBS_Troubleshooting No sound when using FX3/VPX or Future Pinball (OTG) - click the speaker icon in the lower-right of the taskbar in Windows. Make sure it’s set to output audio to the primary HDMI output (your backglass). Once set properly, the audio should play through just fine.
@JEdabody
@JEdabody 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you for the help. Everything works now and I am running Windows 11. Only thing is the backglass picture is not aligned. I can see the PC screen on the last inch or two of the screen. Where would I adjust that?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@JEdabody Great news! My "guess" is that Win 11 likely changed the display to 150% scaling on one of the displays (or both). See the 2nd bullet point here and verify all is correct: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations
@JEdabody
@JEdabody 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk ok that still didn't work so i'm just giving up on the backglass but somewhere while doing this my fx3 pinball is upside down. the main computer screen is fine. Do you know how to put it back to right side up?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@JEdabody Are you talking about the playfield being upside down? Make sure you set Degree to 90 as shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#Switch_HDMI_Input
@bradodrummer5859
@bradodrummer5859 2 жыл бұрын
Great guide.. just got it all hooked up.. I only have two tables on FX3, deciding which ones to buy.. I am confused on backglass images. Where do I get those and what should they be called as .jpg files in the steam directory?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad it's all up and running! For the backglass images, I'm currently using the ones shown in the 3rd bullet point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#Software_Considerations . When a game is not selected, you're welcome to use this image as well (I removed my logo from the picture): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#FX3_Troubleshooting
@bradodrummer5859
@bradodrummer5859 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks.. got em.. after putting everyting back togerther, fx3 audio is super distorted.. not sure what is causing that.. tried reboot, reinstall.. all other PC audio sounds fine thru the ALP .. scratching head
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradodrummer5859 Maybe check the volume level on the PC to see if it's all the way up. That combined with the AMP on the ALP may cause distortion. Just a guess.
@obrien14
@obrien14 Жыл бұрын
Do you have no table / ball lag or stutter at all when using fx3 and vpx on OTG on the ALP cab? Fx3 and vpx run so smooth on my laptop .. but when i plug the hdmi into the alp there seems to be slight ball stutter etc. The flippers work fine. I can't get my head around it. Any help please?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
In FX3, turn off VSync and it will likely play better. In VPX, I don't have any ball stuttering.
@obrien14
@obrien14 Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk what pc/laptop are you using?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
I'm using the DELL PC mentioned here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Suggestions , however it's no longer available.
@obrien14
@obrien14 Жыл бұрын
Thansk mate. Im just baffled .. like i say everything runs perfect on my laptop .. like a dream. Then as soon as i hook up to ALP with the hdmi lead thats when im noticing ball stutter ( not flipper lag )
@user-ep6tk2hd1p
@user-ep6tk2hd1p 6 ай бұрын
What do you recommend for a desktop to connect to the Legends Pinball for virtual pinball
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 6 ай бұрын
I assume you're asking for the ALP HD model (not 4k). If that's the case, I have some information and suggestions here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp-mod1/#Chapter_5_PC_Requirements . Those suggestions are older and not intended for the 4K machine. Though, the Skytech PC shown seems like it may work fine for 4K, I've not personally tested it. If you're looking for one that is more future-proof, I'd recommend posting your question here: www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate The reason for asking on reddit, there are many that are already using different PC configurations and can provide better responses. I wish I had a bunch of machines that I could use to perform benchmarks, but I don't.
@user-ep6tk2hd1p
@user-ep6tk2hd1p 6 ай бұрын
Yes the HD, the computer you referenced is no longer available and it was a few years ago, I was wondering if you had an updated one.
@Soapskid
@Soapskid 3 жыл бұрын
How did you remove hex standoffs that was used to connect the smaller portion to the back board?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm not understanding the question.
@Soapskid
@Soapskid 3 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk In order for me to place the standoffs for my VIBS the other standoffs for the newer wave has a new connection that was there. I can't seem to take those off unless I'm just nerfing hard.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha, I only have the early production version (from Sam's Club). Please see the official AtGames VIBS videos here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp/#Instructions . If that doesn't help, you may want to open a support ticket with AtGames here: facebook.com/groups/1468474910163554 I don't want to tell you wrong and without having the same model, I would be guessing which could be bad.
@pkhsiung304
@pkhsiung304 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video great tutorial thank you!
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@user-qg3yc6fm9v
@user-qg3yc6fm9v 3 жыл бұрын
PK when is Atgames going to have someone come up with a video that shows you how to get the Atgames support group to accomplish a solution to a customer issue with the pinball machine that doesn’t work from the unboxing! Just asking for a friend!
@pkhsiung304
@pkhsiung304 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qg3yc6fm9v your friend needs a solution not a video imho. The solution that works for most (proven) is to keep working with his/her agent contact and lend more confidence and patience to the relationship. Also he/she can join the CS Facebook page to interact with the agents.
@user-qg3yc6fm9v
@user-qg3yc6fm9v 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkhsiung304 thanks… friend not connected to FB, but her money is connected to a none working machine! Imho when asking one to have confidence and patience in an entity of no physical substance, the relationship is superficial in nature!
@pkhsiung304
@pkhsiung304 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qg3yc6fm9v stay with her ticket
@thesmoness
@thesmoness Жыл бұрын
Hi question for you - so I just got my ALP today and quickly set off in setting up OTG. The optiplex I ordered along with the VIBS has not been delivered yet should be anyday now. So I currently have the ALP as the main playfield then I have the Backglass and DMD on my laptop screen. The question is: Is this the best I can do until I get the VIBS board? meaning I cannot use the ALP back glass at all until the VIBS board comes? I know I can't switch back and forth without it but was wondering if I could just HDMI straight into it but it does not seem to detect it. So this is likely the best I can do unti that VIBS board shows up yes?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
Correct, you won't be able to use the backglass until the VIBS board arrives. Don't plug anything HDMI into the backglass connector, it looks like HDMI but it's not and can cause damage to either the backglass or the device connecting to it. Wait for the VIBS please, if anything is connected to the backglass, remove immediately.
@thesmoness
@thesmoness Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you! And I guess maybe I got lucky I did have something in it briefly but all seems fine. Thanks again.
@thesmoness
@thesmoness Жыл бұрын
Sorry Mate I have a new one for you. Been running a setup mentioned previously with my laptop which on OTG mode where the laptop is the backglass and DMD. The laptop is strong Dell G7 with powerful i7 and GTX 2070. Obv the ALP is new and on the latest firmware. BUT I have some kind of unplayable flipper lag on FX3. I have turned off ball trails and gone to like 2x AA etc etc. But yah its very noticeable and not good. Using a USB 3.0 cable from laptop to ALP and its about 6 feet. This is very disheartening. Any thoughts?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk Жыл бұрын
@@thesmoness You can try mapping the buttons directly within FX3. While my PC and Steam Deck are fine with j2k, others recommend mapping using FX3. A few other points here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alppcsetup/#OTG_Troubleshooting
@thesmoness
@thesmoness Жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk been doing some slow motion camera testing. Not super accurate being my iphone on slow mo and my eyeball. But it seems native tables are ~50ms lag, my using my keyboard with no j2k running is about 100ms, and full j2k with 16x cpu time checked is ~150ms. What is realistic? is yours running same as native or is that 100ms the target? Gonna try and figure out how to just bind in FX3 see if that gives me same 100ms performance as keyboard
@william3329
@william3329 2 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the dot matrix in fx3. I turned it off but it will not remove from the backglass. Any suggestions.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Please see the first bullet point here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpfx3/#BitPixel_HV_FX3_Tweaks
@william3329
@william3329 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you! I want to remove the dot matrix size in UI/steaming but it will not allow me too. Any suggestions because I could not find it guide unless I’m missing something.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 2 жыл бұрын
The link above shows you what to do. Are you saying that didn't work? If you're talking about the black rectangle, that's in the artwork itself. You'd have to find your own artwork that doesn't show the black box area.
@william3329
@william3329 2 жыл бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you!
@vonburemann9942
@vonburemann9942 3 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: How can I access the original version of Monster Bash on FX3? When I play this game all I see is the remastered version with 3D moving toys/figures. I want to play the original version with the toys/figure simulating the real table. Any tips? Thanks in advance for your help.
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one version available on FX3 that I'm aware of. However, there are other options through VPX ( example: www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=15415 ). A guide for setting up PinUP Popper Baller Installer here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpbi/
@jackdaniels615
@jackdaniels615 9 ай бұрын
If my PC has dual monitors already do I mark the ALP and back glass as display 3 and 4?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 9 ай бұрын
The numbers aren't important, it's their arrangement from left-right. Playfield, Backglass and then DMD (left to right). Make sure are scaled to 100%, 1920x1080, etc. as mentioned in the guide. Hope that helps!
@jackdaniels615
@jackdaniels615 9 ай бұрын
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I just bought an ALP so there is a learning curve! I see there's a box for "live stream" so do I put my Twitch credentials in and then hook the ALP to my capture card somehow?
@WagnersTechTalk
@WagnersTechTalk 9 ай бұрын
I don't personally use Twitch, but after you enter your credentials and enable live streaming it will stream directly to your Twitch account. There won't be a need to add a capture card. I tried it with YT years ago and that's how it worked then, but haven't tried since.
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