To be fair, if you specify that "Even considering doing the sail by salute at all" as one of the mistakes, then it was always possible to fix one issue and snowball all the rest away.

@@tasbard8545 lol fair enough, but lets not forget how so many other technical errors were on board plus the captain and crew being so poorly managed

Agreed

That's true of a LOT of accidents that kill lots of people

Butterfly effect in effect, so many things piled up, often as a result of something else, and then the way to get out of it was so technical it only added more mental load on the crew.

that's horrific. I was wishing I was wrong, and it would only be hundreds :c

You also have to count hundreds of workers in the ship. There were restaurants, shops, bars, casinos, spas etc and mechanics to keep the engine running.

@@PineBabywhat makes this situation worse is the fact that the captain only got ten years.

In the even more tragic Sewol accident, the captain did the same. The entire crew left the boat while a bunch of kids were on board who were told to stay in their cabins previously. Most of them drowned.

@@realglutenfreeyup the kids who didn’t listen survived, proving once again you can’t trust authorities.

And corruption

That's really why the bottle not breaking in seen as a really bad omen, especially today. If they were willing to cheap out on something super public that's really cheap what sort of expensive things that nobody will ever see did they cheap out on?

@@weabootrash5891 At the end of the day it was company policy that let all this happen to begin with.

Actually, when the Titanic was originally built, the company that was constructing it had cut costs, and used low-grade rivets. Even with the poor view, they might have stood a chance, and prevented more less lives lost.b

The worst part is when you understand how physics works. That ship was big. Like BIIIIIIG. And it's not like it slammed head first into the rock and basically came to a grinding halt, like in the case of a car crash. Most people on the ship probably heard the crash. A lot may have felt it. But it's pretty unlikely anyone would have died as a result of the actual collision with the rock. The physics just doesn't work out, the ship didn't lose enough speed to cause damage to people. Maybe some things fell off shelves or something like that, oooooh, but you'll note at the time of the crash, the magician's magic box, which those are all on WHEELS, was fine. So if even THAT didn't move from the crash, it's very very very likely NOBODY was injured as a result of the crash. In this kind of situation, the danger comes, when the ship stops floating properly. If that shit starts TILTING, suddenly there's danger absolutely everywhere. Just imagine trying to walk down a hallway and then it just starts tilting, and that's the least of it. That's where the injuries are going to come from, the ship changing its orientation as a result of the crash. As we see, it runs aground, and starts tilting HEAVILY, it's almost rolled over and if that shit rolls, A LOT more people would've died. But that's not what happened AT THE TIME OF THE COLLISION. If the "captain" had called the abandon ship as SOON as the engineers told him how fucked the ship was, it's likely NOBODY would have died. First because the crash almost certainly didn't cause any deaths, even being extremely pessimistic, maybe it could've caused a few injuries. Then there's the lifeboats, they would have ALL been able to be used, and they were of course very close to shore, so if they'd just abandoned ship as soon as they saw the damage, they could've gotten everyone off much faster, and staff that was searching for anyone left behind would have MUCH more time to do it. By the time the "captain" called for everyone to leave, they had already run aground, so it was basically nearly as bad as it could possibly get. The ship's tilt meant many of the lifeboats couldn't be used, so that slowed everything down. Then the ship tilted even more so that slowed it that much more. Schettino, as the one in charge of the ship, by refusing to accept he fucked up, maximized suffering and death. It's basically just LUCK that the ship didn't roll over entirely, which would've killed everyone still on board for sure. Which wouldn't have included him, as he abandoned ship well before that would've happened of course.

Though In the case of the Titanic the crew was actually competent, put the crew from there on the Costa Concordia and probably no one would have died

@@jrny20 ACKSHUALLY not true at all. White Star Line had an excellent and long working relationship with Harland and Wolf, their main shipwright firm. They gave H&W a blank cheque to basically do whatever they needed to to make the Olympic-class the largest, most luxurious man-made moving objects on the ocean, and they did. While the strength of the metal used is considered weak today, it was standard for the day, as were the riveting techniques. They even used some hydraulic presses on top of driving them in by hand. The Olympic-class had multiple safety measures and redundancies in place, however it did not have a full double-skin until after _Titanic_ 's sinking. _Olympic_ was refit to include double-hulled sides, and _Britannic_ was actually enlarged to accommodate for a full double hull without losing any interior space. To compensate so they wouldn't lose any speed as well, H&W created the largest low-pressure steam turbine engine ever made for the central propeller. _Titanic_ was sunk by multiple small factors, from delays caused by weather and using parts from _Titanic_ to repair damage to _Olympic_ , resulting in her maiden and only voyage taking place when ice floes had come further south; the ice floes becalmed the waters within the ice field that resulted, making it significantly more difficult to spot any pack ice icebergs, as did the moonless night. This same calm made it possible, however, to load the lifeboats more heavily, provided the crew were not afraid of the suction from the ship sinking; Philips and Bride, the wireless operators, were on contract from the Marconi Wireless Company, thus not technically part of the crew. They had other priorities besides keeping the captain informed of every message. Having repaired their set, they were making an effort to catch up with the backlog of messages between passengers and their family. At one point they told _SS Californian_ 's wireless operator to shut up. With his ship anchored for the night, that operator went to bed for the night, and his captain decided not to wake him to try to contact _Titanic_ about the funny lights they saw. Philips and Bride did not pass every lifeboat warning to the bridge, so even though _RMS Carpathia_ 's captain figured Smith would order his ship around the ice and take the delay, he never did; Theory is also that Fleet would have spotted the iceberg sooner if he'd had access to a pair of binoculars, the officer responsible for the key to the cabinet having missed the ship. This might have been true if the lookouts knew where to look, since binoculars only zoom in, so you have to already be looking at the thing. A searchlight would have helped, but it'd also have killed their nightvision. So about 50/50 on that. Finally, there's the damage. The collision resulted in a series of long breeches in the hull, with the fatal one being a slash that just barely breeched a fifth compartment. Hull plating also came loose from their rivets in places because of the force of the collision, and it was enough. There was no way the crew was going to seal the breeches with so much water coming in, nor could the pumps keep up with it. It was such an overwhelming amount, it was quickly coming down on the heads of those down in the boiler rooms because the water filled up the previous compartment and came in over the watertight bulkheads, which were not high enough to be watertight in reality. The reason for their lowering was basically the same as the reason for reducing the number of lifeboats aboard: Make the ship more open and less of a maze. Speaking of lifeboats, back then they were seen as a way to ferry passengers to a rescue ship already waiting on-scene. The number of people who regularly died trying to evacuate in storms out of a lack of choice meant passengers would rather stay on the ship. Lifeboats today are very different, and are designed to maximize survivability. They're usually covered, won't fall apart, overturn, or catch on the hull. Also, anyone who thinks _Titanic_ is bad should look into _Empress of Ireland_ , and for casualty count, the _MV Dona Paz_ 's collision with the _MV Vector_ . For corruption and incompetence, there is _MV Sewol_ .

@@AlmightySmorg They would disobey their captain much earlier and even that, whoever is Helmsman probably have more experiences than a cleaner

I recommend you watch his other video where he talks about the process and the outtakes, the Costa q&a, or the Engoodaning of no mans sky

I highly recommend the video The Fall of 76 by Internet Historian as well.

Audio sounds fine just had to turn it up a bit.

Wasn’t he tested IMMEDIATELY after he was detained by the police?

@@ShadiC636 1. I was making a joke. 2. I was talking about the mistress, not the dummy captain.

Same. The Q&A is nicely paced, a nice blend of humor/seriousness/info/corrections, and one of my fave incognito vids. Admittedly releasing it so late definitely killed traffic for it, probably more so than it being a Q&A.

Not just European. Also, almost no one adds sentences, they just take the maximum one and treat the rest as aggravating circumstances.

It was one of the largest at the time and it was the largest in the Mediterranean

@@sisi4508 I'm not gonna be that dude and argue for no reason but I am quite a ship lover so I feel my need to argue here. Concordia was part of the Concordia-class ships (fitting name) made in Italy and while she was the largest made in Italy at the time, globally the class could not compete with the biggest. When she was launched in 2005 she was already smaller than all Voyager class ships. Voyager Of The Seas (1999), Explorer Of The Seas (2000), Adventure Of The Seas (2001), Navigator of the Seas (2002) and Mariner Of The Seas (2003) were all a minimum of 300 meters, wider and heavier than Concordia (first one planned and started nearly a decade before she was built). And those were just a few examples. Many cruise ships outmatched Concordia when she was built. Her purpose wasn't being the largest, it was luxury and the area she cruised in.

Didn't _Icon_ catch fire recently? Cruise ships can't catch a break.

Yes though to be fair the Helmsman seems like he shouldn't have been in that position at all due to his lacking language skills to communicate and his general lack of qualifications other than being cheap. So I also think it is a bit on Costa Crociere and their hiring/training practices and it seems like it was a pretty huge issue with almost everyone on the bridge seemingly making bad decisions and not properly following procedures

The problem was complacency to procedures and then some before the crash, and just being an awful person and then some after the crash.

That's just Norway. Probably could also happen in Sweden, Finland and Iceland too

The issue with that video is that it's plagiarising an article.

@@kingofflames738 It's such a shame IH didn't just ask for permission to turn the article into a video or worked out some kind of deal with the original author. Not like the video was devoid of effort and I likely never would have known about that story if it weren't for IH.

FFS people, he already worked things out with the original author and the reupload is a seriously changed video that cannot even be compared to plagiarism. Do your own research, seriously.

@@niravathu7353 from what I found he lied about reconciling with the original creator of the article. IH never even contacted him afterwards when the article creator was asked.

@@kingofflames738The original creator doesn’t matter in this regard. They don’t own it, the site they published it from does. The original creator has no say in it, hence there is no reason to ask them.

There's some pretty haunting pictures of a pitcher and glass standing right where a passenger left them in the forward section of the _Titanic_ wreck. That's how stable she was, and the Olympic-class would be considered small, or medium-scale at best today.

'Trapped,' but yes. Partly because the crew told them everything was fine. If they'd known the ship lost main power, they'd never have risked the elevators.

@@BNuts Elevators are sketchy under the best of conditions. On a ship where there was just a loud crashing sound, power outage and listing? Nah, ill take the stairs.

He did add text that said he didn't find any photos from the incident so he added a pic from a movie. People just don't read that text even though it's in center of the screen

@@frozencrow8735 this is true, but also not really what I was trying to say. He couldn't find any photos though because the "crash" was so small and didn't really do anything to the ship. It got pushed in the wind and broke a ramp.

The captain is the one who chose to do the sail by salute and the company should have never hired the helmsman to begin with. Being bad at your job shouldnt be a crime.

@@nathanpapp432 The captain was expected to do the sail by. It practically became an advertised feature on a cruise ship before all this happened. I wouldn't be surprised if the company would berate him if he decided against it. If the helmsman followed the orders correctly then none of this would have happened. But don't get me wrong as everything the captain did after the crash was cowardly and despicable. He deserved a long time in jail for the aftermath.

@@YukoValis So what if he was expected to do it? It was risky and dangerous. If an employee is incapable of doing a job well then the fault is with the entity who hired them. The company, capitan and 3rd officer (who wasnt doing her job AT ALL) are the most at fault.

The bastard was first off the ship. _MV Dona Paz_ was even worse, if you can believe it.

It gets worse because the only laws Park passed regarding that were aimed at *stifling criticism,* which earned her the derisive nickname of "South Korean Clinton" 😅 One *foreign* reporter who reported on the whole thing play by play, Tatsuya Kato, with *inside information from sources involved* was found guilty of defamation and sentenced to *seven years* for truthfully reporting on a factual event _with verifiable government sources._ They even sued Internet Archive to fully wipe all traces of his article! Sadly even after she was deposed, too many loyalist appointees remained in government. Moon was unsuccessful in repealing the Park era libel laws. The way it's worded makes it seem *any criticism* is potentially linked to North Korean subterfuge, which gives it a sentence analogous *to a sedition charge* 😰

That second one also applied to the Titanic sinking (20 lifeboats was slightly more than minimally required by British Maritime Law).

So a thing about lifeboats. International law requires ships to carry "provisions" for every person on board. Cruise ships must contain lifeboats with space for every PASSENGER. Crew however, are typically assigned to inflatable life rafts. Costa Concordia did have enough lifeboats, if the ship was going down in a roughly level orientation. The problem of course was that it wasn't going down level, it had a severe list, which made some of the lifeboats unusable. Modern lifeboats are far more capable than say, the rowboats on titanic, they are able to ferry passengers rapidly between vessels, or to land.

They don't have to literally go down with the ship, but as captain, they have to be in place to coordinate all evacuation operations as long as there are people to evacuate. That's part of their duties and responsibility as captain. People stuck on the ship are still relying on them. They can't do much if they're miles away in a hotel on land.

Captains don't have to go down with their ship, the captain should be the last to leave the ship. Think about it, do you think that if a ship is completely evacuated the captain is just supposed to chill there and drown? Or wait for the ship to fall out from under him before he is rescued? The principal is, that if anyone is going to die because of where the ship has been sailed, it should be the captain.

White star line is still around

youtube are more likely to hit the video if something non pg is said in the beginning of the video then later in the video

I have issues with remembering some daily things, but It's gotten alot better with fixing my diet/taking b12 supplements.

@@PineBaby Oh, if you are getting better then it's cool. Keep it up Miss.Pine.

That's so incredibly stupid btw, the video itself was still extremely good and high effort, he could have just ASKED them ffs

Aliciaxdeath and Lilaofthewind have reacts to the original if you can't find it another way🏴🏴🏴

Grow up..