Simple Tractor Mod Makes Trailering Easier and Safer!
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Жыл бұрынInstalling tractor tie downs from 5ElevenDesignz on compact tractor. L2501 L3301 L3901 L3902 Episode 129.
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@wranglerastro596 Жыл бұрын
As a truck driver with decks, load securement is very important. Please be aware that you failed to secure forward and backwards movement by only securing sideload stresses.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Good information.
@kenhurley4441 Жыл бұрын
If he would have angled the chains forward and aft it would have been more secure. However I like the attachment bracket!
@billvandorn5332 Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought and was hoping he'd do more...
@JustCaidsDayFarm Жыл бұрын
Having good tie down points can make loading so much easier and save time! It looks like a good addition to the tractor and really easy to install. Nice Job!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Highly recommend!! Not sponsored, just impressed. Thanks for watching.
@wingwhacker7500 Жыл бұрын
Nice mod and video! You may want to tie down in what they call a X pattern. It helps with forward and backward movement of the tractor.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Thanks for watching.
@jimkassel3691 Жыл бұрын
Love the new tie downs, checking to see if they can make me some for my Kubota LX series. Tip- when chaining down a load you should always angle your chains towards or away from each other front to back to keep load from shifting forward or rearward.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
great advice. Thanks for watching
@diamondharp Жыл бұрын
I love these tie downs. Why tell me why don’t the tractor manufacturers build the tie downs into there tractors at the factory????
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
$$ I'm sure
@bryangrim6021 Жыл бұрын
Nice heavy duty tie down brackets for sure! Nice 👍🏼! My subcompact Massey Ferguson came with brackets like that from the factory although the dealer did have to flip one (making it useable) to attach the belly mower when needed.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
They all should come with them! Thanks for watching.
@brucewayne857 10 ай бұрын
That's a nice add-on for your Kubota. My TYM/Branson 2515h had holes pre-drilled on the side of the frame at the front and a heavy 1/2 inch d-link worked perfectly with the existing holes. They give me the same capability with my TYM that these give you on your Kubota.
@PineyGroveHomestead 10 ай бұрын
Every tractor is a little different but all mfg should include a way to tie them down on a trailer. Thanks for watching!
@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын
Great video - thank you for sharing. Many good ideas - you should consider selling those grill guards - impressive!
@PineyGroveHomestead 7 ай бұрын
The grill guard is from Lown Performance: lownperformance.com/ Discount Code: TractorHard5
@shopclasswithsam9051 Ай бұрын
It’s funny I just bought a new 3902 and was looking at decent attachment points for trailering. This is perfect, just ordered a set. Thanks!
@PineyGroveHomestead Ай бұрын
I love them! L3902 is a great upgrade from my L3901...I did a comparison: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ppaAacKnzNjZlok.html
@MyClutteredGarage Жыл бұрын
Great mod, Brad. Really simple but so handy!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed. As much as we trailer, we should have done this a long time ago.
@michaelmactavish4445 Жыл бұрын
we useually till or mow with the loader on incase theres big sones or rocks or tree in the way its handy clean up fields same time
@lark3po Жыл бұрын
I can see how this would simplify things! Awesome product. That being said, I usually wrap around the front and rear axels because I know neither of those are going to come loose. 😜
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
If so, you may have bigger problems! Thanks for watching.
@lark3po Жыл бұрын
@@PineyGroveHomestead Maybe on a Kubota tractor. 😉
@RockhillfarmYT Жыл бұрын
Looks like a handy addition. Good video topic.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brock. Should have put them on years ago!
@jamesharless5357 Жыл бұрын
Great video!👍🏻
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@coypatton3160 Жыл бұрын
Any time trailer any equipment, I would suggest following DOT guidelines. It is the best way to ensure you are covered by insurance if the worse happens. Just a side note-he did not ever exhibit following DIT guidelines. Not saying he did not follow then only that what he discussed and showed wee not DOT.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Definitely trailer according to DOT....not a KZfaq video.
@richardbrowne1679 Жыл бұрын
DOT has absolutely nothing to do with someone who is not a commercial operator.
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
As others stated double check your states DOT requirement. The tractor requires 4 securement points by itself. The attachment require their own. In this case you need 8 securement points.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching.
@donaldstrishock3923 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right Sir. Some people NEVER Read the Operator's Manual; they just watch utube vidios for infomation.
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
Only requires 4 tie downs if over 10,001 lbs.
@captainedc 7 ай бұрын
I believe that depends on the weight of the machine.
@alexwood4478 2 ай бұрын
In California our DOT officer that does our bit inspection says 4 points of connections and a strap over the rear attachment depending on size of attachment
@PurpleCollarLife Жыл бұрын
Great upgrade!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chad. Really saves time with trailering now!
@treemonkey_ma1718 Жыл бұрын
I first started transporting my tractor with binders and found them more time-consuming than what they were worth over the 1st year. I then ordered commercial ratcheting tie down straps with chain ends versus those hooks. You can easily hook the frame and slide the other end into a stake pocket. I can fasten either my tractor or a mini ex down at 4 points faster than installing just 2 out of the 4 binders that I was originally using. I've been using straps since 2018 and will never go back to the binders. The straps are rated at over 3,300 each, more than enough for these small units. 2 straps at the front guard / frame and 2 straps off the rear tow plate, and it's tied down at 4 points! Plus, 1 on the implement, if there is one! They are worth investing in if you move your equipment enough. I probably have close to 20 strap setups now with varying lengths
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Great information for our viewers. Thanks for watching.
@subixbarbarasson6052 Жыл бұрын
Dude in new to all of this and i truly appreciate your insight. Thank you kindly.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@subixbarbarasson6052 thanks for watching
@garytranbarger4390 9 күн бұрын
great info dude. appreciate it.
@PineyGroveHomestead 9 күн бұрын
These tie downs are AWESOME! More tractor videos here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLG5yS75HLzo3RVqEuA0f6IioXV6FtFhHW
@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Жыл бұрын
Those are a great solution! I’ve thought about ordering those for the BX…
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Glad we took the plunge. Tractors are a big investment and we feel much safer towing now.
@Miniscapes515 Жыл бұрын
Strips of that blue flat drainaige hose works great for strap protectors also. Ic ut 6" straps and slide them over the straps and just slide them where I need.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Great idea! We have some of that hose. Thanks for watching.
@Nightsider-xr5lx Жыл бұрын
Dot will have the WLL of any strap or chain that is directly attached to the item being secured. 3,000lb strap down to 1,500lb and 5,000lb chain down to 2,500lb. Direct tie down (attaching to item or through item and back to same side of trailer) vs indirect tie down (across or through item to other side of trailer). Wheeled or tracked vehicles need 4 tie downs and then at least 1 for any attachments. From a flatbed/step deck driver for 6 years. 😃
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Great information
@jamesklee9980 Жыл бұрын
Don't know what state you are from but pennsylvania dot requires chains ,one on all 4 corners of the machine.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks
@richardbrowne1679 Жыл бұрын
The law I know does not specify chains- it goes by working load. So if ratchet straps meet that working load your good. DOT regulations only pertain to commercial operators.
@jamesklee9980 Жыл бұрын
Dot regulations apply to all motor vehicles not just commercial!! As far as dot is concerned an improperly secured load has nothing to do with commercial or private! The tie downs added to the tractor are a great 💡 idea.
@jpederse98 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesklee9980 I don’t know PA but I asked Kansas Highway Patrol and 4 pt tie down here only applies to commercial.
@homesteadhaven2010 Жыл бұрын
@James Klee DOT in my state only counts when it's commercial equipment. You don't even need lights on most trailers people use in my state. This trailer here would be one of them.
@TonysCoolTools Жыл бұрын
Thanks new sub here, thanks for sharing info on the brackets. I have a Kioti and same problem with limited tie down points. Will contact 511 and see if they might weld a set for a Kioti. 👍TCT
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
He makes some good stuff. Check out Zooks welding too. Thanks for stopping by. Cool channel you got!
@brandtwebber5761 Жыл бұрын
I never take my loader off and I will go one farther and say I take bucket and forks job I go to. I can see how its nice not having it on but the one time you need it. Just how I do it, there is no wrong way. Safe and happy tractoring to ya.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Agree....loaders are so handy. Thanks for watching
@americansfirst1095 5 ай бұрын
Same here. Just drop the bucket wherever I'm at,, if it's a problem. But rarely ever do. I cut, rake, and bale hay with it all on.
@kevind3185 Жыл бұрын
Here the loader must be strapped bucket strapped and all 4 corners of the tractor. 4 hooks 4 binders. Any implement must be strapped even when mounted to the tractor..
@donaldstrishock3923 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right Sir; good catch!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
You are probably correct.....never see that around here though.
@JohnnyUmphress Жыл бұрын
You just use auto hauler straps on the wheels. Works great for me and they are DOT-approved.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea for our viewers. Thanks for watching.
@marksleeper9385 Жыл бұрын
very nice
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thank you....they are a great simple mod.
@tomforeman4976 Жыл бұрын
So easy to walk into a hard ware store and but a couple 3/8s Cabell hooks and drill a 1/2 hole in each side braket and mount your hooks with pins and cotter pins that come with you purchase then you can either use chain or same ratchet stamps he uses and way more convenient because you can simply drop what ever you want to tie down with and hook and tighten down. Cost for more convenient is about12.00. And can pickup at local hardware store.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
this was quick, easy and works great.
@mr.redneck2715 Жыл бұрын
I believe most states require four points on the tractor one on the loader and one on the rear implement!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Could be. You're lucky if people put more than a single strap over the hood here!
@mr.redneck2715 Жыл бұрын
@@PineyGroveHomestead ☝️ unfortunately you are 100% right!
@prestonberg9604 Жыл бұрын
I have a l2501 and use grade 5 chain and binders
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Kubota strong!
@jeanvaljohn3921 Жыл бұрын
Seems like the tractor dealer could ha ve offered them as an option during the purchase. But good video Good job
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
I don't think they are an option at the dealer but this is a great solution. Thanks for watching.
@jamesscroggins3486 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video today! Btw, how is the pond doing? Is it holding water better after the improvements you did?
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. We had a dry summer so the pond never filled more than about 5'. It's really low now and we're waiting for it to fill back up before we treat the South half. We think the Damit slowed the leakage where it was treated though.
@jeromepeterson4043 Жыл бұрын
I saw a tractor just like yours broke in half because he strapped it in the middle, he did have it strapped at both ends too, really all you need is straps at all four corners
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
that's a bad day
@elienehme5514 Жыл бұрын
Forward seems to keep em further away from tie rods as well
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
The manufacture shows them square side up and forward, but I like the angled side up. Thanks for watching.
@anthonyg6924 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Maybe you said and I missed it, why are the brackets angled vs flat? What would the purpose be if there reversible when mounting?
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure but I'm guessing to clear the tire and tie rod if they are facing forward. As far as beveled on the top, versus squared off, the MFG shows them with the square side up...I put them on with the beveled or sloped side up. They fit either way and so far I'm happy with the way I put them. Easy enough to change if I need to though. Great idea and great product.
@donaldstrishock3923 Жыл бұрын
Most likely to insure a 4 corner diagonal pull, not a loader mount & front side bind.
@5elevendesignz511 Жыл бұрын
They are angled so that when attaching a chain the bracket is at the same or similar angle as the chain.
@wranglerastro596 Жыл бұрын
The straight angle towards the anchor point is crucial for not bending the bracket when stressed.
@barney1941 7 ай бұрын
what kind of steel is that made of? ar500 550 domax420 a50? thank you rich
@PineyGroveHomestead 7 ай бұрын
I really don't know. I have the link to the manufacture in the description.
@billr4677 7 ай бұрын
I only seen 1 thumb. Lol😂
@mereshanetransport2716 Жыл бұрын
Securing by attachments is not legal comercialy. Four points on the tractor then secure your attachments.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@donaldstrishock3923 Жыл бұрын
Oh yea ,the loader or implement could fall off the tractor.
@ryanburnham1932 Жыл бұрын
I had to travel over 2,000 miles each way to pick up my tractor, I live in Alaska and there were no options with a cab in the state for 9 months. I just use(d) axle straps and when you cross your chains on the front they clear the steering linkage easily. It works with or without a loader, eliminates the need for midpoint lateral support, and kept a larger tractor than this in place for over 2,000 miles. This seems like an unnecessary modification to me, that doesn't really make trailering safer or easier if you just approached it differently from the beginning.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@ocho27hd Жыл бұрын
How do you tie down the rear part? Good demo 👍🏽
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
I do two on the front on the new tie downs. Then I still do one strap on each side inside of the loader "tube", then one across the implement which of course is attached to the rear of the tractor. So 5 points total on the tractor now.
@genewilliams7497 Жыл бұрын
You have to tie the tractors down off each corner front and back 4 points of attachment….. then you have to tie down the loader with its own straps and any rear implements with its own strap. If you are not doing this you are breaking the law. Luckily most troopers and sheriffs departments officers could give a rats ass on anyone hauling a compact tractor and implements…… unless they are having a bad day and want to wear your ass out and they will eventually. Good luck but I would highly recommend reading your states hauling, trailering and the required tie down requirements. Most of not all states are all the same now which is the federal standard.
@ocho27hd Жыл бұрын
@@genewilliams7497 great tip…I’ve just been looking for an attachment or hooks to install on the rear of the tractor to avoid scuffing paint or metal or strapping chain around the axles.
@jefffrancis6824 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jschickenfarmer50 Жыл бұрын
How long is the trailer you used in the video? Im currently waiting on delivery of an L2501, but im not sure if my 16’ car carrier style trailer will be adequate. Great video btw!
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
It's 18' flat deck (10K). 16' car carrier will be OK if you have a box blade or tiller on it but a brush hog will stick off the back of the trailer. At 7K, a carrier has enough capacity for a 2501 + loader + implement, but a 10K 18' is a much better choice. We've had 3 different trailers for our tractors and it's my favorite.
@jschickenfarmer50 Жыл бұрын
@@PineyGroveHomestead. Thats good to know! I was wondering if 18’ was enough. I plan on leaving the 66” heavy duty box blade on the tractor as my counterweight when im not using other implements. Thanks for the quick reply!
@briangc1972 Жыл бұрын
Those brackets look thick enough for a sub compact, but a compact tractor needs 3/8" thick of maybe 1/2" thick brackets depending upon the weight. Two significant problems in this video. First, You NEVER use straps to secure a tractor. ALL straps stretch and many tractors have flown off trailers unexpected due to strap flex. Messicks has a video covering this. A salesman was delivering a new tractor and the tractor flew off when the trailer went over a bumpy RR crossing at 25 mph. Plus DOT regulations state grade 80 chains and binders. You can get a ticket from a savvy cop who knows the law. You need 4 chains for the tractor per DOT. You need 2 chains for the front end loader. You need 2 chains on the rear implement. Second. The bolts you used are not grade 8 which is what you need for a tie down bracket.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@5elevendesignz511 Жыл бұрын
The brackets are 3/8" thick which is thicker than the frame they are fastened to. They are actually grade 8.8 bolts and supplied with the brackets.
@captainedc 7 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound right. I think that's for a commercial vehicles towing a very heavy machine like a Cat 235 backhoe or 977.
@mikekiefer3915 Жыл бұрын
You think that the mfgs would be smart enough have security point’s designed and build into these types of equipment. Anything that needs to be trailered to a site.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
True, but they don't. I've seen some weird ways people tie down their tractors.
@bobmel3272 Жыл бұрын
There's a problem here. When you chain something down at 30 degrees angle to the load, you are DOUBLING the load on the chain. For a 3/8 grade 70 or 80 chain, that wouldn't be a problem. Still, it's always best to not rig in this matter. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aN6nnJip1J7cf4U.html
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks
@thomaskumpf8912 Жыл бұрын
How do you have all these toys and no long 1/2" extension? C'mon now.....
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
I know right....we don't live on the farm full-time yet so our tools are in two different locations!
@richardfrench5750 Жыл бұрын
Good works tractor host name isn't Shannon.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
You are correct, it's Courtney.
@tomforeman4976 Жыл бұрын
This has so many Shar edges and takes two straps.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
it works great.
@5elevendesignz511 Жыл бұрын
2 chains assure your machine won't shift side to side. Can also be done with one chain.
@user-ft3oc7ks9z 11 ай бұрын
Where can I find these?
@PineyGroveHomestead 11 ай бұрын
There is a link in the description of the video.
@barney1941 7 ай бұрын
its courtney not shannon, the other girl name
@PineyGroveHomestead 7 ай бұрын
I know...it's Courtney!! Funny because we actually know each other now!
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
Your front brackets aren’t even needed. Slip the hook from a chain onto the weight bar and pull is to the front and side at a 45 degree angle.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@5elevendesignz511 Жыл бұрын
That method will not isolate movement side to side.
@pigacres Ай бұрын
Safer because he was using chains
@thesprucemill6632 Жыл бұрын
Need to add a warning to all videos that are "instructional"...and for all those comments about load securement and what applies to commercial and non commercial. I have this to say...if your load comes loose and injures or kills someone, dot will be the least of your worries.
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@TL-by1rs Жыл бұрын
Nothing new it's already on Massey Ferguson tractors
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@leonannegers7874 Жыл бұрын
I'm a detail guy you put yourself out there making videos anyone can get any information on you they want and you put a towel over your truck plate sorry it makes no sense 😐
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@janosvadas Жыл бұрын
The federal motor carrier safety administration actually puts out a cargo securement manual for drivers. Does it apply to private parties.. no. But you’d be silly not to consider it. static1.squarespace.com/static/58530c911b631b89245744ab/t/629a6af48fdad44c90828ed7/1654287095354/Drivers+Handbook+on+Cargo+Securement.pdf
@PineyGroveHomestead Жыл бұрын
right on
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