PING G430 irons v Stealth HD irons - ON COURSE

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@nigelperry9988
@nigelperry9988 Ай бұрын
Another well balanced review. I am a 60 year old high handicap golfer with a properly compromised right shoulder. I am now definitely going to try the Stealth HD with graphite shafts! Worth noting the HD's are terrific value right now!
@leehager1376
@leehager1376 Жыл бұрын
I have a full set of TaylorMade HD irons and I've been using them for about 2 months. As a senior (leaning more to geriatric) golfer I have found them to be a great confidence builder. From a 3 iron down to the pitching wedge I cannot fault them, they pick-up easily in the semi rough as easily as from the fairway (I haven't mastered the sand wedge yet). If any golfer has a physical problem like arthritis in the fingers or lower back problems (like me) I would encourage them to look at these clubs and seriously contemplate them. I am new to your channel and like your delivery style, well done.
@beng4647
@beng4647 8 ай бұрын
Sw is worthless...get a vokey
@craigb7978
@craigb7978 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 69-year old high handicapper (or that's where my game was left off about 8 years ago when I last played), and I'm seriously considering the Stealth HD. A relatively slow swing speed and lack of torsional flexibility have kept my distances down as I've gotten older, and I've always struggled a bit to hit cleanly and squarely, especially as I get near the end of a round and tire a bit. I learned the game back in the '70s on a set of forged blades - Walter Hagen Haig Ultras - and though they were great clubs, I was never good enough to get the most out of them. So when "game improvement" clubs came around, I bought some - a set of Wilson Staff Di7 irons - expecting miraculous changes, but they didn't really feel that different, and I could never really get comfortable with them. Now, with retirement approaching, I'm thinking of getting back into the game, and I went to a local golf superstore and tried the HDs in one of their test bays. I hadn't swung a club in years, and I'd never swung one in a simulator, which was a little off-putting, but right from the start I was hitting the HD 7-iron straight, if not appreciably longer than I expected. But more to the point, it felt supremely comfortable, just hitting this thing over and over off the deck (another thing that I've never been comfortable doing). I was actually ready to buy a set, but the sales guy said I should put it off until I get a little more real play under my belt after such a long layoff, and then let their fit specialist look over my swing to help decide whether or not the HD is the best thing for me. I guess I'm OK with that, though I was disappointed to go home empty-handed. Because on paper, and in the simulator booth, these things appeared to be just what the doctor ordered.
@GOLFADDICT65
@GOLFADDICT65 Жыл бұрын
i have the regular Stealth irons and LOVE them.....as i get older ( 58 ) will for sure have these HD's on the radar.....great review Andy......cheers
@williamdedrick1312
@williamdedrick1312 Жыл бұрын
Good to see an older man test these out. Can you do a comparison between graphite and steel shafts and their weight?.
@richardbrown8506
@richardbrown8506 10 ай бұрын
Going for a fitting tomorrow. I have the Ping 410's but at 67 years old I am slowing down. Plan to try both models of clubs. Love your videos keep up the good work.
@tcofield1967
@tcofield1967 Жыл бұрын
I'm not ready to change out from my P790s yet but at my age (55) I am probably getting closer to these kinds of clubs and probably will be looking at something like the Stealth HD or 430 as I get older. I hit the Stealth HDs at the shop on a lark and was pretty impressed with the consistency of the clubs. I'm not a terrible ball striker but like most amateurs I don't always find the middle of the club and there was minimal dropoff on slight to mildly offcenter strikes. Since my swingspeed has dropped as the age and back injuries have taken their toll this kind of ability to compensate for my humanity will make the game more playable. And the goal of golf is to have a good time. These clubs may not look 'cool' but if they help you get the ball into the hole they are worth the investment for sure.
@EHMSL1226
@EHMSL1226 Жыл бұрын
Look at getting some lighter graphite shafts if you haven't yet. They'll help you get some of that swing speed back with less effort. I switched and don't have a particularly slow swing speed and love them.
@andrewunderwood8534
@andrewunderwood8534 Жыл бұрын
“Is forgiveness what you pray for before a round”, is such a great line
@jeffreymarkanich6076
@jeffreymarkanich6076 Жыл бұрын
The Stealth HD is very reminiscent of a club that PXG had several years ago. In fact, I believe that Bob Parson’s was gaming it at that time. While I thought the club was a bit odd looking, I loved the playability it offered while trying it out during a PXG fitting. My guess is that most mid to high handicap golfers would also find the playability of the HD’s better than most super game improvement irons. However, many will overlook them due to the looks or perception that these are hackers clubs, which is a shame. (The same reason people won’t use a chipper or draw driver.) Great video Andy…..hopefully, this video will make people add the HD’s to their “must try” list and make the game a little more enjoyable.
@paulc5817
@paulc5817 Жыл бұрын
Andy I believe starts his traditional iron set at 6 iron. Replaced top of big with hybrids. Why? Easier and fun. But to do the whole set is just crazy! Who would do that! Someone who wants to score better and have more fun….⛳️🎉 I game the sub 70s 799 set. 5-pw. So much fun to play. I’ll never go back to traditional irons. But I will say I would love to see the TM Stealth HD in person, they look like something I would game! Great way to start my day! Ty for another great video⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@kevinmaxted1768
@kevinmaxted1768 Жыл бұрын
yes the main review I have wanted to see I love the look off the ping g430 but I whud go for the stealth hd
@markeister8518
@markeister8518 11 ай бұрын
Andy another great review, and love the side by side comparisons. I may offer that yes both forgiving, but with Ping’s legendary quality and customer service they have an edge in longevity as well. Love the loon of the course there as well. Be well!
@Marky_F
@Marky_F Жыл бұрын
Going for a fitting on Thursday for some new irons. As a mid handicapper of 61, will give these a look Andy.
@scotpage5526
@scotpage5526 Жыл бұрын
Perfect type of video! This is my favorite type of content because it is most relevant. I love it when you are testing and comparing on the course, because that gives me the best feedback as I look to make a purchase. I am considering by either the stealth hd, the cobra t rail hybrid irons or the Cleveland halo hybrid irons. I'm definitely looking for graphite shafts possibly because I'm definitely looking to go lighter to increase the swing speed. Let me know your thoughts on those 3 sets because you've tried them all. Thank you again for your down-to-earth and kind demeanor
@jonathanhughes5876
@jonathanhughes5876 Жыл бұрын
The top-line of the Ping looks freakishly thin if you hit the Stealth HD first. I had a fitting and hit LaunchPad, Stealth HD, JPX23 HL and THEN the Ping. I immediately feared the Ping. I'm going to pull the plug on irons this week. Still no idea which. From the fitting the LaunchPad and JPX23 HL gave me best numbers. Loved the confidence standing over the ball with the Wilson LunchBox BUT the JPX23 HL is aesthetic goals for me. FML
@jerryjohnson9531
@jerryjohnson9531 Жыл бұрын
I have not tried the 430 but they would probably scare me also. I got fitted for PXG's a couple of years ago and hated them because even though they were game improvement they looked like a blade.
@stevenwilliams2551
@stevenwilliams2551 2 ай бұрын
Just got myself some Stealth HDs , love them , already seen improvement in shots , clubs feel lovely too
@scotthansen4692
@scotthansen4692 Жыл бұрын
G430, just hit them and was surprised how forgiving they were compared to others. I am a 15 handicap and some folks say I should be playing a better club but I dont miss them very much at all. Only one I found to be close was Srixon ZX4s.
@paulreynolds866
@paulreynolds866 Жыл бұрын
HD order, tested so thought why not give them a go. Wish me luck. Thanks for review put my mind at ease also ha
@GOLFADDICT65
@GOLFADDICT65 Жыл бұрын
have fun with them...keep us posted...cheers
@deanmackogolf8023
@deanmackogolf8023 Жыл бұрын
I don't know that I would consider either of these irons for myself, but at least the TaylorMade HD has the design similar to my sandwedge. I currently game the Cleveland Smart Sole 58-degree and do love the wider sole for cleaner (easier) strikes. While not for me, I would not be embarrassed to have HDs in the bag.
@JR-xn4gl
@JR-xn4gl Жыл бұрын
As an older slow swinging newcomer to the sport with very little but increasing competence and more swiftly increasing enthusiasm, I'm carrying a set of Ping G425's (SR, graphite), complemented with Cleveland Smart Sole 4 G and C wedges. I'm basically pleased with the set but then the questions arise: what about Ping's new HL version of the G430s geared to slow swingers and are either flavors of the 430s worth upgrading from the 425s? (Maybe you'll have time to take a look?) As to the HDs, though their nod towards Cleveland's approach of using wider soles is intriguing, at the end of the day I favor Ping's more "classic" look.
@TheMrvince44
@TheMrvince44 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo! Cheers from Texas.
@stone7578
@stone7578 Жыл бұрын
Coming from steel shafts i500 and went with the graphites G430 .. Golf is even more fun now .. just great sticks
@andywallis828
@andywallis828 Жыл бұрын
Really timely video, as going for a fitting in a few weeks and these 2 are on my list. Prefer the look of the Ping but want to swing both and see how they perform in my hands !
@martineden9097
@martineden9097 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy. Great video again, always so informative. Just something to note recently, your audio is dropping out a little bit at times, and was more noticeable in your last one with Lewis. Hope this doesn't offend in any way.
@craigwilliams7683
@craigwilliams7683 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a set of G430’s. Hopefully get them before the weekend. Don’t think i could get used to the looks of the TM HD
@tmiles337
@tmiles337 3 ай бұрын
You like them?
@melvynrobinson7479
@melvynrobinson7479 Жыл бұрын
Andy, have you had a chance to hit the G430 HL irons ? Lighter head, lighter shafts and light grip, all for slow swing speeds. Plenty of reviews for the G430's, not seen any for the G430 HL. These should be the ones to be comparing against the Stealth HD
@TheAverageGolfer
@TheAverageGolfer Жыл бұрын
I am trying to get some samples Melvyn
@melvynrobinson7479
@melvynrobinson7479 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAverageGolfer thanks for the reply Andy that would be interesting for us older arthritic 75+ average golfers who need all the help they can get !
@TheAverageGolfer
@TheAverageGolfer Жыл бұрын
@@melvynrobinson7479 I think it’s a really interesting range
@johncorbin2639
@johncorbin2639 Жыл бұрын
Yes. They perform amazingly well Highly recommended, I am delighted with mine!
@jsherrydds
@jsherrydds Жыл бұрын
You really do an amazing job with your videos. Thank you so much.
@kmueller4585
@kmueller4585 Жыл бұрын
I did a fitting a week ago with both these irons. I'm a high handicapped golfer who really hasn't played much since high-school (20 years ago) and is finally getting back into the sport. I found the pings to be less forgiving than the stealth HDs but still miles better than the old set I currently game. Needless to say, I have a set of the stealth HDs on order from Taylormade and I'm praying they make it here in time to play this coming weekend.
@kmueller4585
@kmueller4585 Жыл бұрын
As a nice happy follow up to this, the clubs came today!
@jon4atee1
@jon4atee1 Жыл бұрын
G430 for me, tried em and loved em. The 7i I put against my current 6i the ping, the430 flew past the 6i on like for like hits
@brianwhitish5898
@brianwhitish5898 Жыл бұрын
How do they compare to PXG 0211?
@ryanwagonerracing
@ryanwagonerracing 3 ай бұрын
Buying Stealth HD’s tomorrow 🎉
@nielshunniche1
@nielshunniche1 Жыл бұрын
I just got the G430 irons, I have had many PINGs, but these are the best ever and most forgiving, even without being ugly
@GB15327
@GB15327 Жыл бұрын
I tested both of these out today. My average club speed is around 90 and i noticed the distance on the 7 irons was 20 yards less on the Stealth HD, then the ping g430 irons. Love the turf interaction aspect of the stealth HD because I have a steep attack angle and sometimes duff my shot or get toe stuck in the turf. Question is should sacrifice 20 yards for the extra turf interaction forgiveness because of the soles. Did you notice any gapping issues in any of these 2 clubs you tested?
@jonathanhughes5876
@jonathanhughes5876 Жыл бұрын
You swing near tour average. The distance on these would be ridiculous for you. You'd need about 6 wedges!
@bptree45
@bptree45 Жыл бұрын
Hey Andy. I’m in the market for new irons this spring and I would like to think everything is on the table - if i can just check my ego at the door and try those TM HD’s. Thanks!!
@PSCThrillSeeker
@PSCThrillSeeker Жыл бұрын
Both are on my list to try, but I might lean toward the ping 430s
@jamesm4603
@jamesm4603 Жыл бұрын
I got the Ping G430 ! I could not get used to the look of the Taylormade Stealth HD.
@vincentcalcagno8935
@vincentcalcagno8935 8 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thank you for sharing, sir.
@toml665
@toml665 Жыл бұрын
Andy I enjoy your videos from here in the States. Where are you located in the UK as the course is so green for this time of year?
@DN4AGDX
@DN4AGDX Жыл бұрын
The TM Stealth HD remind me alot of the older Adams hybrid irons.
@DavidSmith-lo7wf
@DavidSmith-lo7wf Жыл бұрын
I would have thought the TM HD irons were more directly targeting the Wilson launch pad/ Cleveland launcher HB type of market vs the Ping G430. That to me is more the standard Stealth iron no?
@MrZola1234
@MrZola1234 Жыл бұрын
The big question I have is how do these match up with the Cleveland Launcher???
@cjwright1960
@cjwright1960 Жыл бұрын
I like the g430 looks, still a little chunky but I could play them
@chrisgirling1097
@chrisgirling1097 Жыл бұрын
Don't think the TM stealth iron would find there way into my bag based on looks alone the pings however are a different matter good looking and with pings renowned customer service they are a definite consideration
@No_Fear_33
@No_Fear_33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this one!!!!
@geraldhemming
@geraldhemming Жыл бұрын
Those Stealth HD irons really intrigue me! At which iron do you start to see the back sticking out when the club is down by the ball?
@davidgroom9667
@davidgroom9667 Жыл бұрын
All of them
@geraldhemming
@geraldhemming Жыл бұрын
@@davidgroom9667 ah ok, thanks 👍
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 Жыл бұрын
I would be quite happy to have the G430's in my bag, but I would really struggle to game the TM offering. They are far too odd looking even though I am undoubtedly in the demographic that TM are aiming at with these clubs
@davidchipman7612
@davidchipman7612 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy been thinking of the Cleveland Halos or something like the TM Hd as you tried both which is easier?
@TheAverageGolfer
@TheAverageGolfer Жыл бұрын
Review video out next week! 👍
@davidree2858
@davidree2858 Жыл бұрын
I think I prefer the look of the ping g430?
@tartandrones3739
@tartandrones3739 Жыл бұрын
The difference between praying in the church nd on the course… on the course you really mean it!
@lewiscourt9168
@lewiscourt9168 Жыл бұрын
I got a fitting today and I tested both of them and I picked the Ping only because it looked better when addressing the ball
@TheAverageGolfer
@TheAverageGolfer Жыл бұрын
Yep I get that
@peterlarsen4809
@peterlarsen4809 Жыл бұрын
I'd consider the Ping over the Taylormade because of Look, but both are too expensive.
@kennethbnorris
@kennethbnorris Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t able to produce a significant difference between the two sets when I went to purchase mine, so I went with the Pings. The TMs are just too bloody ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. 🤷
@thomasmacgruber6701
@thomasmacgruber6701 8 ай бұрын
Going with Stealth HD and putting the 400 dollar price difference into new bag and putter.
@keendeesjarlais3636
@keendeesjarlais3636 11 ай бұрын
why the disdain on game improvement irons? belittled by purists. most aren't at the level where you can rock, blades from the early 70's. im not gonna sh.t on improvement irons I think all ppl need em.
@michaelcarolan6892
@michaelcarolan6892 Жыл бұрын
Considering both of these, looking for more spin and height to decrease the gap between carry and distance. Right now 20 yard difference
@paulivin4654
@paulivin4654 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, can you do a what you have in the bag for 2023 please 👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@harleytowler9187
@harleytowler9187 Жыл бұрын
BOTH ARE GOOD CLUBS. NEED TO CONSIDER VALUE AFTER TIME. THE PINGS WILL BE WORTH MORE IN THREE YEARS.
@davidgroom9667
@davidgroom9667 Жыл бұрын
Your caps lock is on
@No_Fear_33
@No_Fear_33 Жыл бұрын
Opinion based or data based re-sale? Last time i looked, Ping 425's have the very most sets on Re-sale in almost all 2nd Swing websites. No one wants them.
@mickeylegalhawk6510
@mickeylegalhawk6510 9 ай бұрын
Looking at the p430 for 2024
@randallpennington5976
@randallpennington5976 Жыл бұрын
I would consider both of these irons, but since I am only going to play an 8 iron as my longest I am going with Ping. The Stealth in long irons is an idea but the original Stealth 👎. No combo set!
@jean-pierredumoulin8305
@jean-pierredumoulin8305 Жыл бұрын
i was a ping player for 30 years and tried the 430 and i did not like it nor the taylormade stealth so dont buy before you try
@rodpark9044
@rodpark9044 Жыл бұрын
The Stealth is going more for the Cleveland and Wilson clubs. I don’t see the TM and Ping clubs in the same category. Yes the Ping claim to be forgiving, but the Stealth are for beginners or high handicapped. Great review but seems to be comparing clubs from different categories.
@TheAverageGolfer
@TheAverageGolfer Жыл бұрын
Not sure I agree Rod, many golfers who are considering either of these clubs will be considering both as an option 🤷‍♂️
@briantreadwell2206
@briantreadwell2206 Жыл бұрын
To each their own - I think I want what my swing deserves . . . train harder is what I do!
@brettdodge8699
@brettdodge8699 11 ай бұрын
Cant handle the super large head on the Stealth HD.
@2011ppower
@2011ppower Жыл бұрын
Hmm do either forgive a duff?🤣
@davidparsons5727
@davidparsons5727 Жыл бұрын
Cost. Cost. Cost.😜
@LiveCustoms
@LiveCustoms Жыл бұрын
FARGIVENES RORY FARGIVENES
@mrhappytime4191
@mrhappytime4191 Жыл бұрын
Ping all day
@tiggerlechien1354
@tiggerlechien1354 Жыл бұрын
Didn't prove much to me. Disappointed.
@wks4511
@wks4511 Жыл бұрын
I'm not into the looks of those Stealth irons.
@briansmith7576
@briansmith7576 Жыл бұрын
How can a hacker like this tell golfers how good golf clubs are I play off 2 and wouldn’t listen to this fool go too your local pga pro and get fitted for the best clubs for your swing 😮😂
@michellereed7303
@michellereed7303 Жыл бұрын
fwiw...there are more than a few videos from teaching pros that have given the same review on the remarkable stealth hd irons on youtube.
@briansmith7576
@briansmith7576 Жыл бұрын
@@michellereed7303 you said it yourself teaching pro not a hacker. 😂didn’t doubt the clubs just wouldn’t listen to the guy swinging them
@michellereed7303
@michellereed7303 Жыл бұрын
@@briansmith7576 but a hack should, right-?
@briansmith7576
@briansmith7576 Жыл бұрын
@@michellereed7303 no you should listen to a pro before any hacker
@michellereed7303
@michellereed7303 Жыл бұрын
@@briansmith7576 Dave Pelz can't break 90...most teaching pros do not know crap about club-fitting, most club-fitters on tour do not sniff a single digit hcp.
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