Father Grimm Just the phrase “The Hellbound Heart” sounds badass. Like some demonic artifact of unimaginable power/horror.

@@kadesitton5762 thank you!🤘💀🤘

*And I'm a drama Qween*

"...and to think...that I hesitated...."

@@kadesitton5762 Funny enough, its the name of the novel that the first Hellraiser movie is based on

Pinhead laughed in hellbound but only because of Kirsty’s lack of Knowledge of hell. With this pinhead it’s almost like Amy Schumer could make a joke and he would laugh. Pinhead laughing should be very very rare occasion and it should be for a serious reason.

Everything about this movie feels very Studio, very sanitized. I remember seeing this movie at the video store when I was about 7 or 8 and was still terrified of being anywhere near a horror movie. In hindsight, I probably would've enjoyed this movie, even if I had to look away a few times. It feels more like a fantasy adventure than a horror film

@@thehorrorcounselors4747 Well it would make sense that Amy Schumer would be the only comedian in Hell.

Is that a gd thing?

@@eddbhoymccloy4939 That's up to the viewer. Some might say it makes sense given that this is supposed to be a pinhead of pure untethered evil and it's more fun. Others would say it betrays the character entirely and that pinhead was scarier when he was dead eyed and clinical.

Jay jay Shadows read the book. Lots more where that came from. He’s full of creepy prose like that lol

My vampire mind *BITE ME*

ping head

*woof woof bark bark* 🥴

...That's literally it though. They are the ULTIMATE in experience. Exquisite pleasure through unimaginable pain.

DO I LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO CARES WHAT GOD THINKS ?

Which gods are we talking about???

That's the point. The original theme of the first Hellraiser was to be a sadistic sexual romance, so Pinhead's voice is actually very fitting.

@@thomashardman2342 Still a better love story than Twilight, right? 😋

He has such sights to show you.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! 🩸

Yeah he isn't exactly the same as in the previous two movies. Something about how his human side is gone and now he's just a psychotic killer.

Its true. Originally, Pinhead was clever, insightful even reasonable to a degree. He was the 'explorer of the further regions of experience' who only came to those who summoned him. Dare I say it, he is the hero of Hellraiser & Hellraiser II . . .

Pinhead is not the same here as he was in the first movie, in which he was a blunt, straight to the point "I will tear your soul apart" demon from hell. His character here seems a little too human, not as scary.

@Leondrius Pinhead acts less in control because he isn't in control. The box has to be given to him remember?

Bryan S. Logical.

It would be interesting to see some fatalities and some dialogues. At least he is in dead by daylight

God, he would be so great. So much creative potential for his intros, victories, move-set and fatalities.

@@kawaiikitten951 and terrordrome

​@@gerdsfargen6687 He was in the original TD before it got rehauled.

You got that right!

"for God's sake" "DO I LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO CARES WHAT GOD THINKS?"

That one was good, but "Jesus Christ!" "....Not quite." was better XD

Jason Knight Yousa damn right heesa da real darkside!

Freddy oozes charisma, leave him out of this.

Yeah, this scene made me cringe. It's too try hard.

He didn't have as much screen time in the first two but he still talked quite a bit even considering. I would say one of the defining traits of Pinhead is the talking, not standing there silently.

@@axebomber2108 True, but in the first films he said less but it was more impactful. From the third onwards he just talked and talked, acting more like some fantasy genie while in the pillar (offering the world when you knew he was just going to screw the victim over in whatever they asked for), and then proclaiming things like he was some dark ruler, despite that we know from the second movie that he's just a figurehead to those really in charge.

@@axebomber2108 that's what made it interesting in the first 2 movies this one was a force hand with his presence especially these cringy conversations.

I don't agree. I believe he evolved and has many many dark poetic savage speeches ever. My only problem is he wasn't in it enough after the 4th installment

His voice was made deeper in this, just maybe not quite as deep or reverberating. Doug Bradley has kind of a soft voice, I don't think he's capable of sounding like this naturally.

I didn't mind him being in the pillar since that was his predicament at the end of the second movie, but they could have come up with something better for him than mass murder. I'm not entirely sure what an unbound Pinhead would really want to do, but at the very least, I imagine there would be more torture involved than just killing people in stylish ways.

And I'll enjoy you enjoying him enjoying making her enjoy it!

And i'll enjoy you enjoying him enjoying him making her enjoy it!

A metaphor for the sadistic impulses of Man?

🤣👌🏾

And I'll enjoy you enjoying him enjoying making her enjoy it!

Sickest line!💀

Jesus is the Son of God, he is the word made flesh. Jesus is the only way to eternal life.

clickslither7 I love that fucking movie.

Poorly synced

I agree, but nonetheless I like this scene. I like the dialogue (the “secret song at the center of the world” is a great quote imo), the cinematography, and of course, Pinhead’s voice and delivery. A good Pinhead moment, in a not so good Hellraiser movie.

It's always great to see women who aren't afraid to admit how attractive Doug Bradley's pinhead is

@Luciphene 7 Someone else who gets it! Yes!

isn't that kind of his thing though? pain and pleasure united into one.

Yes

@@nra3zehuti781 Well I think he's attractive as fuck. But I always had strange tastes so I think my opinion doesn't count. ;)

How do you know

@@leelasavage9257 I've seen war, I've seen aggression and I've seen "peacetime". I read a lot and what I've found that it all adds up.

Funny you should mention that....in the SWTOR game, he plays the Sith Emperor. Not Palpatine, because the game is 3K years before the movies, but when I first heard him speak I was like..."I'm fucked."

Lmao ikr

Don't forget the doctor...he's in! Hellraiser II was the best, the logical and grotesque culmination of the first storyline.

You mean James Earl Jones playing Mufasa?

He refused to be in this shit anymore

When u do movies. The makeup probably takes 4hrs than u film for 10 hrs. For 6 days a week for like 2-3 months I imagine it's exhausting.

This is bullshit The Cenobites are not under restraint: their Order is entirely self-imposed. they are not 'under hell's control' or any of that crap. The sadism they practice is their idea of joy and pleasure: they are devoted to it; nothing else interests them: that's what makes it creepy: they're NOT evil and they're NOT demons. And there is no indication they were EVER human. All this was banal crap made up for the sequels. They are just amoral extra-dimensional sensualists whose idea of what's fun is so alien to humans that it SEEMS evil and terrifying. A hedonism so extreme it's indistinguishable from pain. All this got tossed out in the movie so Pinhead could be the next Freddy Krueger and laugh his stupid gravelly laugh. This whole concept went to shit in Hellbound when they stuck that egg-beater in Channard's head, and nobody even noticed.

Because they are a strict, albeit alien order of religious maniacs whose worship is the spirit-as-flesh. This is all very much in line with Clive Barker's ideas about anti-metaphysics, and the non-existence of any division between body and spirit. That's why violence and flesh in his work always has a spiritual element: the Cenobites are the darkest side of that. They are lawful hedonists drawn to the absolute logical conclusion, which to human beings looks like the most horrible sadists imaginable. That's why the box is their ritual not their commander: their contract, by opening the box you are signing a pact to participate in their rites. In the books, it takes days to open, and you never, ever do it by accident. This is all far more complicated and interesting than bloodthirsty demons tormenting and killing the unrighteous for their lust. Which is just crude medievalism, not advanced or alien at all.

Yeah but it's nice when the adaptation maintains SOMETHING from the book and isn't just vastly inferior and very different. And there's no surprises at all when the plot is a bunch of literally centuries-old ideas that every one has seen a million times. Everything cool and advanced about the Cenobites is in their make-up and design, which made them famous. But their philosophy was dumped almost immediately and that's why the films became trash so fast. Really, the sequel to Hellraiser should have been Weaveworld but the money for fantasy wasn't there in 1990. Bottom line: Barker is a fantasy/ sci-fi writer: the horror was a cosmetic addiction, a side effect of the extra-dimensional exploration. With the sudden resurgence of interest in Neil Gaiman, maybe Clive will experience a renaissance and some of his actual ideas will make it on screen with talent and a proper budget.

@@steerpike66 no, i recomend you the comics with direct clive barker ideas, there explain all. They really are demons who serve leviathan, and the mayority was humans, but some have pure cenobite blood, and pinhead is the high priest of them, leviathan is a ancient devil of order before nature, all nature was created against leviathan who just want order, all that can be seeing in all puzzles, labyrinth and other thinks like that who simbolice his power ( leviathan manifested in humans between mathematics and dreams with messages of labyrinth and puzzles) . The nature is chaos and existence is pure chaos, because of that leviathan and the cenobites dont like the flesh, they hate it becasuse is against leviathan, and thats because they want to discipline and punish flesh, is the act of discipline and punish the flesh what is pleasure for them, not the flesh itelf. They are enemies of other form of human demons: the nightbreeds, who serve baphomet (god of nature) other creation of the clive barker mind and they are funny and goofy, the entire opposite of cenobites who are evil and serious. Excuse my english

Absolutely agree. His best characterization was the first movie, hands down. Which sucks because some of these one-liners would actually be cool if the delivery was different.

I did get to thank Terry Farrell at a con recently for her awesome one-liner in that scene. Still hoping I can meet Doug some day.