Ouch... 1984 and she calls David 'Barrett replacement David Gilmour'.... that's cold man...

Excellent interview, lots to unpick: - props to the interviewer: Lisa Robinson. She prodded in a tender motherly fashion which got Rog/Dave to open up. - it's true that Roger (then as now) isn't as venerated a songwriter as Paul McCartney, Elton John or the rest. But the simple reason is that his work is challenging...challenging art doesn't rise to the top, nor should it. - Roger referencing Culture Club's success as proof that 'the Machine is winning' is confirmed moments later when Lisa promoted her next interview with: "...and Boy George will talk about his thousand hair-styles!". Nowadays, image is serious business for musicians. - Dave is fair & diplomatic as ever, even admitting his "laziness" was a main reason Roger wrote most of the music, thereby Roger is deserving of most of the critical praise. But he's also got a point that his own contributions were still vital. Roger's solo albums are good, but they're not Pink-Floyd-Good. On the flipside, the Rogerless Floyd albums are miles away from the epic high-end quality we got from 1967-1983 (yes, including Final Cut). - also interesting was how precisely Dave knew how many weeks (and since when) DSotM had been in the charts. A lot of sources, including the band, say that was the last true group effort before Roger's vision took over. It's safe to say that Dave & Rog (with Rick & Nick) needed each other to make what we know and love to be Pink Floyd music. Without Roger, it's just watered-down. With Roger but without Dave, we'd end up with too much naval-gazing introspection. In the end, that 1967-1983 period has left us with arguably the strongest discography in music (of any genre or era). For that the boys should be very proud x

No matter what happened to the band,one thing i´m sure of and its that,in my opinion,these guys were perfect musicians,very intelligent and creative.I only wish that Syd was still around too... I love pink floyd and all of their work!! Thanks for posting this interview

It´s interesting how members of Pink Floyd felt as though Waters was slowly taking control over the band after Darkside, while Waters felt like the others were letting him do all the work. Like in many cases, this whole situation seems to have stemmed from simple communication errors, and might have been entirely avoidable, had they just openly talked about their feelings; something both Waters and Gilmour would write about at some point in their career, but failed to enforce at the time.

rick wright is so under rated

I love them all so much. Roger and David are so great together. But, egos get in the way often in the music industry. We live and learn. I yearn to see them both at peace with each other and again friends.

Man. This is a gem. These guys made history.

No Rick Wright,no Pink Floyd. Thanks for the memories.

I think Waters and Gilmour needed each other, though they might be reluctant to admit it - Waters needed Gilmour's musicianship, Gilmour needed Waters' songs. And y'know what, they produced some great work together (along with Wright and Mason of course) while it lasted; by the end their worldviews were too different and they could no longer work together, but that's just life.

They wrote their fate even way before it happened - "And when the band you're in starts playing different tune, I'll see you on the Dark Side of The Moon".

I ❤️ Pink Floyd. Both Dave and Rog were as important each other for the chemistry of this great band.

Thanks for the video! Shine On!

Gilmour and Waters both have transcending genius. Here there's no room for the McCartney vs. Lennon type of dichotomy. They're both fantastic and influential artists with unique styles. I'm grateful for having the chance to enjoy their material together and separate. There is no way to describe the legacy of Pink Floyd. We're to close to the facts to appreciate it and their solo materials are both culturally, politically and aesthetically relevant today.

I love David Gilmour.

David Gilmour bends wires as well as Roger Waters writes lyrics !

I love Roger more then any of the others, hes a master artist with a vision.

Brilliant Interviews of Dave and Roger. These men will be legends of music of their era for eternity regarding their work and contributions. The breakdown of Pink Floyd should not be judged but the amazing music they produced for our listening enjoyment is to be ever applauded.

This split was necessary. I like how this interview is so truthful. The Floyd were falling apart. I find though that Roger in this and other interviews was the most honest. Here David admits he was lazy and not part of the projects. And that is something Roger admitted was going on since DSOTM, hence the Floyd was becoming a Waters band, because he was the driven member. Many record execs and engineers are in agreement that this was happening. Rock and Roll s seems to head that way sometimes, think CCR, Roxy Music, etc. The Pink Floyd Wars were brutal and David was most nasty in his comments in Musician magazine about Waters' musical contributions and capability. Today some of those nasty b.s. comments live on with Gilmour fans. Remember David saying Roger was a passenger on the PF vehicle? Yikes. That was nasty. Time has shown the comments are not truthful and just spiteful. It is sad, because, once again these two men are on friendly terms and that is the best way to end the saga. I wish Roger Waters fans would embrace David Gilmour's solo music and David Gilmour fans would embrace Roger Waters solo music. The fans still have more healing to do if they can't do this.

A classic example of "A band is a sum of it's parts". Take one member out of the "classic line up", and it just didn't have the same colour. All are relevant, but it's when all 4 came together that the sparks flew, and the magic happened.

Can you believe this was 33 years ago ? I remember buying the wall in 1980, it was one of the first albums I ever bought, and cost a lot back then. We listened to PF at school. You would never hear band interviews back then, I did not even know what they looked like. Now Floyd are all over KZfaq. At the time we never knew what was going on, they just faded out after the Wall. Thank you YT

Excellent interviewer I have to say. She managed to asked essential questions and quite personal/artistical and tricky. considering the situation at the time. without sounding too pushy. well done ! That really helps understanding the shift in the band and the lack of motivation about making music , being in a "big" group with all the pressure it creates

*Being so famous is something that would test the soul of anyone.* It's a testament to each member of any band that manages to keep things somewhat civil. That's not making excuses, that's just an observation of reality, and a sideways pointing out that were any one of us in such a position, we would struggle with it as well. Just as the unseen have a different struggle that is just as real on a mental and emotional level, although physically more difficult to manage, but less egotistically challenging.

When a band member declares that they are the band...nuff said.

This is one of the rarest interviews ever! It captures the split of the band. You could see how; Waters had come up with the ideas since Dark Side and was trying to make sure everything will go smoothly. You can't say Waters was the bad guy because he was driving everyone, and not all members were giving the full cooperation as equals in the band. But Waters has now admitted that he was wrong to attack Gilmour for continuing with the Floyd when he himself wanted to stop. Still, Waters-driven Floyd produced that best work among all band work and solo works, so we should be lucky the split came at a relatively late time.

I think the final cut totally sounds like a Floyd album. David's guitar playing is unmistakable. His four solo albums all sound like solo albums but I think the final cut totally sounds like a floyd album. Then again it's all floyd to me

I was on that show in stockholm with Pros and cons.but i cant remember that it was the first show on the tour. I remeber that i loved it. Very interesting to here this interview.

Roger became the guy who wrote 90% of the material. Of course, anyone in that position will feel more important than the others who aren't coming up with enough ideas.

Ha, "Nicky" Mason.

I love the Floyd. Followed them from the 70's on till today. It's unfortunate what happened between Dave and Roger . Both are great musicians and Roger a exceptional songwriter. Dave was very instrumental in making Floyd sound the way they did, doing most of the lead vocals and of course his incredible guitar work. Rick was a unsung hero and Nick brought his talents also. The 4 of them together is what made Rogers songwriting compositions thrive and come to life. Together and foremost they were what accomplished musicians sound like when they are in sync with one another. THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES -------DAVE, ROGER, NICK AND RICK........ ROCK ON !!!!

Ha! I love the part where you hear the guy fast-forwarding through the commercials.

Every Pink Floyd album is different from the previous one. The only Pink Floyd album of the 15 albums that stands out as not having that Pink Floyd sound is the Final Cut, and that is because it is the only one without Rick Wright.

Early split insight- good stuff!

LOL @ 10:30. Roger Waters says "Wish You Were Here" has "improved considerably". If you haven't heard _Pros and Cons_ (1984-85) or _KAOS_ (1987-88) bootlegs, you wouldn't know, but he actually wrote more parts to the song. He over-wrote it, IMO. Then in 1999 he started working back towards the original version, and settled there in 2008. He also re-wrote the chords to "Pigs on the Wing" and "If" on those 80s tours. I have no idea why. Those songs didn't need rewriting, but he did it anyway. I'm not in love with every idea the man's ever had, y'know.

David is a very smart man

good editing!

Love these guys! Nevertheless will do all my life. They embody what humans are all about.

that was great

Pink Floyd was a total sum of its parts. No one member “made” the band. Like Led Zeppelin, each member was a master musician and together, made masterpieces. The ingredients were perfect together.

Come to think of it, have a Heinecken.

Maybe Roger should have played all the guitar and keyboard parts, then I'd say it was Roger's band.

01:47 - Roger / Playing live as a solo act > No future for Pink Floyd 03:06 - Roger / Pros & Cons album 04:06 - Roger / The Final Cut album 05:22 - Roger / Visuals & stage production 07:31 - Roger / Press, reputation and music business 09:09 - Roger / Rock music 09:32 - Roger / Pros & Cons Tour 11:00 - David / The Final Cut & working relationship with Roger 13:26 - David / Solo career 15:09 - David / Working ethic 16:50 - David / Having fun while performing solo & PF music 17:29 - David / Feelings about how his work is perceived 18:45 - David / Audience & success 20:12 - David / Dark Side Of The Moon 21:27 - David / Difference between solo music & Pink Floyd's 22:33 - David / Touring & rock'n'roll lifestyle in 1984

When do the band members get credited? I don't get this because on 'Hey you' there is an almost minute-long solo and a guitar riff (which I assume is written by Gilmour). Though the only one credited is Waters.

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Not EXACTLY a "Waters & Gimour interview", more like "Waters and Gimour Interviews"...

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Imagine Pink Floyd without David Gilmour or without Roger Waters ,both they made it complete not to forget Richard Wright and Nick Mason

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I was unaware until recently that apparently in an attempt to pacify the rest of the members of the Floyd who were unhappy with the album, Roger offered to release it as a solo album instead, but they refused. In his words "knowing that songs don't grow on trees".

I used to have a Lisa Robinson interview with Stewart Copeland from 1986 and I lost it...

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During this time of interviews in 1984, I saw Gilmours About Face Tour 1984 Boston Orpheum and Waters Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking Tour 1984 Hartford Civic Center w/ Clapton on lead guitar. Big fan of both but I enjoyed the Waters Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking show a tad better. Because at that time they were in court fighting and Gilmour could only do a few Pink Floyd songs. Only Money, Run Like Hell and Comfortably Numb. Ones he wrote or co-wrote, which weren't much. Mostly solo. Where as Waters show was much longer and did all Pink Floyd hits after he did The Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking full album. Both were remarkable in their 1st solo tours.

Awesome

The wall is the greatest album of all time

Waters/Gilmour I like both of them and keep listening to their records. Gilmour seems nicer.

But who knows none of us where in the studio or on the road or conversed with these gentleman.

Almost impossible to be in a band, not have input, and enjoy it. If it causes you more pain than good, get rid of it because life's too short. The Ego is a powerful drug.

He's so vague. I like how he doesn't just straight up say 'I bloody hate my band'.

Waters is brilliant but I heard a recent interview wher he said he had become a dictator by the Wall era and I think that that is very feasible. He was a fundamental part of the Floyd and perhaps an under appreciated musician overall but I also think understates the importance of things like good arrangements, riffs etc. One very important point as well is that if you don't feel accepted and valued by your partners, your creativity is going to suffer a hell of a lot, and you even might feel like not sharing your ideas with those misstreating you. It's only natural. That said, I equally admire DG & RW as musicians and much appreciate the rest of PF.

Great interview. Thanks for posting. My favourite Floyd album is Animals. The Wall has some great tunes, but a double album was a bit much. A bit of a sell out, like Breakfast In America was for Supertramp.

Am seeing Roger next month. A very talented musician and lyricist but must have been a complete pain in the arse to work with.

@ 17:59 MIN- Roger Waters wrote all the lyrics to all the Pink Floyd songs...Amazing..i never, ever knew that fact!!

it's impressive they made great music for as long as they did. They clearly have clashing personalities. Once the band had nothing left to prove, David got lazy and Roger got preachy. They should have sat down and said "ok guys, let's make the best damn album we can to fulfill our contractual obligation with EMI then take a break. Roger, you get political on your own time. David, you get lazy on your own time. We signed a damn contract."

Whatever your thoughts on Roger and David, I hope people can agree that Lisa Robinson sucks in both of these interviews, looking to rile them up, and sensationalizing rumors.

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Lots of interviews of Pink Floyd. Here on KZfaq

It's Official, Dave Gilmour Thinks We're Stupid: in a 2008 interview with Larry Getlen, Dave let us know that Nick Mason was "as vital" to Pink Floyd as Roger Waters was.

No one's Pink. The argument is moot. They all made contributions to the music we love. Be grateful that we can listen to over and over.

“Some nights, looking after myself wins out. But then some nights, rock and roll wins out. “ haha

that was funny the tape "Fast FWD" sound 21:00

Come to think of it, I might have a heineken!

who's going to tune his bass now?

12:37+ : "I doubt whether we will." - David.... he already knew before Roger officially left in 1985.

I still think the inferior Pink Floyd albums are a momentary lapse of reason and Mabel to a lesser degree The Division Bell

Roger waters , genius , no doubt , Gilmour , great guitar player , that is all

I feel bad for Roger. The press were really gate keepers back then and he really felt it when he didn't want to do interviews and such. I think Roger wanting to write from the heart made possibly David, and maybe even Rich, annoyed at him for writing personal material. But personal material is way better than just trying to make something poppy or just anything. But I guess, they also felt like with him just writing personal material for the band meant that in some way, pink floyd would essentially just be his band since all the songs were about how he felt and about his life. Of course other things made them drift apart but I really feel bad for Roger, cause knowing the meaning behind some of the songs for The Wall, made it so much better. And watching the movie really helped with me liking it more too. I feel like maybe they just weren't mature enough to try and work things out. But I can see that the problem is much deeper, cause at around 17:00 David claims that he doesn't like Rogers lyrics, and with those lyrics, he'd have to work with that and make sounds around it like all the other members. I feel like maybe David should have just went with it and used this opportunity as a new challenge instead of trying to make Roger change his work.

Roger Waters and David Gilmour interview, with Roger Waters.

Trulysarcastic44, i think i'd become a taskmaster if my group had just had its fortune stolen by Norton Warburg. on top of this, Floyd were still facing a tax bill in 1979 that would reflect the money they'd invested, even though it had been taken from them. this forced them to become tax exiles. how does being lazy help this situation? how does not writing anything help this situation? Roger's taskmaster status could arguably be the equivalent of simply saying, "the ship is going down if we don't ROW!" now you can, as a group member, get mad and petulant about it, but when the record he has written most of, The Wall, helps save your bacon, perhaps a little gratitude wouldn't kill you the way running out of money would have. The Wall would yield them greater royalties if the record was done by a certain point in 1979. an exec at CBS had made a deal assuring them this. so, Roger saying "WORK" was a way of making not only the record, but making far more in royalties for all of them once that record met the public. Rick wasn't interested in working ahead, even though this would have enriched all of them signficantly. what about HIS ego? seems pretty egomaniacal to say, "fuck you, you do the work!" Roger pushing the group is the only reason why we're all here still talking about them. those records would've never been made without him cracking the whip. egomania? and? i think it takes quite an ego to think that someone else should do the work of writing the records that will feed you for ages and ages once your fortune is stolen. anyone ever thought of that???

What boggles me is that there's no soundtrack for The Wall film, other than a single release for When the Tigers Broke Free. They should've at least released an EP containing Tigers, What Shall We Do Now? and the rerecorded songs.

I agree with Gilmour, The Final Cut is sub-standard album. Roger was a great leader, but he didn't made good music without Dave and Rick. Rick was very undervalued by Roger in my opinion.

Damn, I hope they can put their differences aside to work on the next album together.

I don't think I've ever heard Nick Mason called ' Nicky ' before!??

I wonder wot the 3 tracks he really liked on it , does any one know ?

I actually really love the final cut, the last great album Waters made, It sounds like the wall but you can still feel a step away from the sound and closer to the waters sound but for some reason I really love it even though it's not the sound I like, and pros and cons taking a leap and everything after is taking plane journeys away from floyds sound.

The post Roger stuff is ok but it's missing that edge that made Pink Floyd great to begin with. The other three provided the sublime music, they were the heart whereas Roger was the brains. Put together it was a potent combination but not quite the same when you take one of those elements out.

Roger is really full of himself here; he clearly sees Dave, Rick and Nick as nothing more than backup musicians. Too bad.

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Water's trying to take credit for all the success and creativity of PF. Without Gilmore and others, it's not PF.

Final Cut is by far one of Pink Floyd’s best work

Dave is so much more open minded in his interview, never calls Pink Floyd’s music HIS, it’s the bands, him Roger and nick and Richards

Never heard this interview at the time. It's interesting to look back at it now, considering subsequent events. Gilmour comes off as very open and reasonable, acknowledging Waters' talent and thematic genius, but insisting that he too deserves credit for making Pink Floyd what it is. Waters strikes me as cold, brutal and narcissistic. One prominent feature of a narcissist is that they can never get enough external validation to satisfy them. After complaining that the entire country of England doesn't understand or appreciate his work, Waters essentially writes off the rest of the band's contributions and insists that he's the sole creative force now, so there's no point in the band continuing. Of course, when they did have the audacity to continue without him, he responded by taking them to court to make them stop, unsuccessfully. Frankly, they all needed some serious therapy and a professional mediator.

Waters was a frustrated genius of an artist who just happened to be a musician. Gilmour was a musician whose input wasn't quite given the credit it deserved. The relationship was destined to fail because neither appreciated the other around this time. Hindsight eh?

Lisa Robinson knows Frank Barcelona.

Waters' solo work (The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, Radio KAOS) was excellent as well; and sounded very closely to The Final Cut. I can't say The Final Cut was my favorite Pink Floyd work, but it was good, in my opinion. Gilmour's solo work was also excellent. It's just a shame the excellence kinda came to a peak around Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here. I am not saying that the other Pink Floyd work was trash; not at all. But it seemed the apex where everyone worked together and "made beautiful music together" so to speak, was right at that time and everything else after that was just kinda Roger Waters' agenda, and things before that were a half-lifing of Syd Barrett from the band. Maybe there was disenchantment on behalf of David Gilmour, as he rarely ever speaks about The Wall, and considers in a less-than-soulful Pink Floyd piece.

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It always seems to me that Roger would be angry, tyrannical, an asshole etc etc. but he didn't seem to be hiding much. Gilmour, on the other hand, spent the rest of the 80's and 90's making little snide swipes at 'his predecessor' with a grin on his face. Painfully tactful, as the interview put it, is spot on.

'I'm Lisa Robinson' - I heard you the first five fucking times!

I come to a 2014 youtube video, assailed by it's ads... then this video is trying to push Heiniken lager on meh! >.

I think that Roger did the right thing by taking over, it obviously hurt the band a lot but The Wall is one of the top selling albums of all time and it's up there with Sgt.Pepper and Queen's greatest hits etc. I thought that what Roger did to Pink Floyd was wrong at first and I thought it was a silly thing to do when I heard that story but then I heard the albums before and after The Wall and I completely understand why he did it, it's quite possibly the best piece of musical work ever written (in my opinion) and it still amazes me how it's even possible to write such a masterpiece and I have never heard anything like it and still haven't almost 35 years later! Wish You Were Here and Animals were incredible for what they were but they really stepped it up with The Wall and even The Final Cut! And the two albums after that weren't that good, some good songs like Poles Apart and for me that's it really and Sorrow in my opinion is the worst of all Floyd songs, they could of done better! and I also love all the stuff before Dark Side, Meddle is mind boggling and is great, same with Atom Heart Mother and A Saurcerful Of Secrets needs more credit for what it is!!

Fantastic. Once you begin to tell the truth, it's the beginning of the end for you, I'm afraid. Do you think present day Roger is the same as past day Roger? Answers on a postcard.