Same

She is a member of a criminal organisation that abuses children.

Just become chatolic

Go look up infantilisation. You adress someone you have never met as 'mother' and say we should behave like some fictional child this evil woman made up for her disgusting story.

@@kevinkelly2162 The term "Mother", with reference to a Catholic woman living a consecrated life, refers is a title denoting reverence, when dealing with a nun who has achieved a senior rank. She is not literally a mother. With regard to emulating a child, it is not about infantilization. Its about having the humility of a child to ask for help when you are in need. You are reading something negative into a very positive and empowering message, and that reflects more about you and your bitterness.

@@alphacause No, you have been treated like a child since you were a child so you cannot see how powerless you really are. One example: You know what these people do to chldren. You know this is wrong. Yet you cannot see them for what they are. I bet that as you read this you are making excuses for them in your head.

@@kevinkelly2162 At the heart of the Christian message is exactly what Mthr Natalia is speaking of, and despite what you consider to be an enfeebling idea, Christianity has been one of the, if not the most transformative movements in history. How is that infantilization? I am a productive tax paying citizen, twice university graduate, who supports my family. How have I been rendered a child, but I am still able to fulfill adult responsibilities? Why does vulnerability scare you so much? With reference to the line "you know what these people do to children", I am assuming you are speaking of the child sex abuse scandal of the Catholic Church. Yes, those people are detestable, and they should be held to account. They should be prosecuted for their crimes. Why are you blaming all Catholics, and specifically Mthr Natalia for those crimes? You are generalizing. For every one of those clerics who used their position to abuse children, there are thousands more who are servants of God and who serve mankind. To not view an individual, institution or group in its totality, and only highlight their crimes, illustrates that you are not arguing in good faith. I am sure you are part of a group, country, or ethnicity who has committed crimes. Should I only assess these groups by their worst actions? Should I judge the entire group for the crimes of a few within that group? More to the point, should I implicate you, because you happen to be part of one of these groups with the crimes of these groups?

Very well put. Completely agree 👏❤

Seriously 😭

That’s the whole idea behind the mendicant orders.

Nah, we are just a social species.

Sounds different.

She is, I think, a Mother Superior.

Agreed. Another one, "God helps those who help themselves", But the sneakiest one is, "There but for the grace of God go I". That last one sums up Protestantism pretty succinctly. ❤

​@@quietwyatt4045I have always heard that PHRASE 🙏🏻✝️🥰

"God doesn't give us what we can handle. God helps us handle what we are given." That's the one I like.

​@@quietwyatt4045 "There but for the grace of God go I" doesn't bother me, as long as it leads to an expression of empathy. It can't end with judgment. Otherwise, it becomes an empty sentiment. I think the late folk singer, Phil Ochs, summed that up best with his song, "There but for Fortune." Catholics see those in need and are called to respond to that recognition of God's grace in their own lives with charitable works to help others. Far too many Protestants (some even masquerading as Catholics) are happy to just praise the Lord that they're not as dirty as the rest, the "other." Either way, the recognition of God's grace is a good thing. The latter, though, is woefully incomplete and thus a distortion of Christ's mission.

Nope. God loves everybody. But I can definitely see how you might come to that conclusion. Narcissists and their network of well meaning thralls are something to avoid - especislly if they've cost you already. Its like they have hacked need, and reversed our Lord's intent for it, which is just the worst for anyone who has HAD to learn to defend from, or avoid narcissists. But they are children of God and He CAN bring them back. It may be important to remember that, for the most part, they have to want it bad enough to take on as much of the work as they can by themselves and with the direct aid of Christ and His angels and Saints. ... In the mean time, its ok to just leave them as far out of your life as can be.