In these conditions..tire contact pressure is key, Pinz tall,skinny, more psi per square inch, jeeps are set up more for sand/flotation,,too light for amount of tire

Well....the pinzgauer is army tested and much stronger build.....double ring and pignion in the axles , portal axles , 100% lockers front and rear...no chassis as the drive train is the chassis ( tatra system) wich results in a verry low center of gravity . Its a 710MK so its close to 2100 kg same weight as the cherokee or the 5 door wrangler. Yes having small agressive tyers will help but the pinz is one off the best 4x4's ever build .

@@pinzgauerbelgium yeah not arguing it's build quality.. arguing that given other conditions, Jeep will prevail, just depends...Pinz has little articulation...say off camber and larger rocks..btw rubicon is locked at both ends

Yes, it is, it has many advantages, but it also has some disadvantages :)

Great ride too kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br2Agquls82be30.html

Pogledaj na 15min 30sec kako se drugi i Pinc penju na jednom ozbijno strmom i uzanom delu kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9mJnc6m3MvDaWQ.html

@@TopDjir Na ovom snimku sto kazes, pinc ide posle 3 dzipa koja su prekopala teren, a posle pinca 3 dzipa nisu mogla da izadju, tako da..

@@lukaminic8165 Mnogo to deluje teže na licu mesta, kamera ne može da dočara strminu, plus je uzano, drveće je blizu, postoji opasan bočni nagib desno, ako auto sklizne, a najgore je bio jedan "stepenik" na 2/3 uzbrdice, gde vozilo odskoči i izgubi inerciju kretanja... zbog tog stepenika najviše, mnogi nisu mogli bez vitla... Pri tome je ovo bila "turist ekipa" koja se nije takmičila na 15th Belgrade rally, a očevidci su rekli da su se mnogi takmičari vitlali na tom mestu pre nego što smo mi došli.

I don't know exactly what moment and vehicle you mean, but your statement is certainly correct. Somewhere All Terrain tires and light force are even better (let's say it doesn't bury itself in snow or sand), and somewhere you have to press "pedal to the metal" and dig with MT tires to get started or pass.

Pinz has both advantages and disadvantages, let's say its luxury is zero, comfort is poor, it takes knowledge to drive, the wheels are behind the driver, it takes strength to drive ... but it is passable, excellent ground clearance...

yes, in some situations it is superior :)

Usually yes, but here's a 37 "Maxxis Wrangler had to tow Pinz as well :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMePZtCQyr_UgJ8.html

@@TopDjir most of that is probably the tires on the pinz.im sure it happens but rare. I want a pinzgauer so bad.

Pogledaj na 15min 30sec kako se drugi i Pinc penju na jednom ozbijno strmom i uzanom delu kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9mJnc6m3MvDaWQ.html

@@TopDjir nabijate preglede nema pinc na 15min i 30 sec

nemam ti ja ništa od pregleda, tj imam, imam na 1000 (hiljadu pregleda) oko 100 dinara :) piše ti lepo "drugi i Pinc", da uporediš kako se neko muči, a kako se Pinc popeo... Pinc ti je dva minuta kasnije, na oko 17:30