JeepCo MJ just curious, how much a project like this would cost? I have a PA140... I don’t have this problem but it would be good to know.

Where you happy with the job he did ?

@@jefferykirk2322 Yes. No issues what so ever.

Saltwater is highly corrosive to Aluminum. I live on the Texas Gulf coast, always a big concern for any aircraft and why I spent the bucks to hanger my planes, a lot cheaper than fixing corrosion.

Kevin Moore .....I have one buy a Cessna .

One would assume you'd wanna put ur foot on the Rib of the wing vs in-between them. Just basing off common sense

@@larrygreen8912 Or if you happen to be of the male gender, you could buy a citabria or decathlon. Hell, any taildragger will do. Those are just ones I've owned. I will say however, I've flown in a lot of pipers over the years and after seeing how the wings are built and especially how they're attached. (or barely attached) to the fuselage... I'm not sure I ever want to do so again. At least not unless I personally know the mechanic. I still hate flying a plane as boring as a 152 or 172... But I'd still rent one from a random small town airport in BFE and feel safe. Flying it.... Pipers? Not so much anymore. Walk into same airport in north BFE and the guy says "sure, we got an old warrior for rent"... Yeah no feckin way Bud. I don't need a wing flying off randomly when I'm cruising along minding my own business. Boring as a Cessna is, at least the wings are properly attached from the factory. And yeah. I know my Citabria had a wooden spar, but wood doesn't suffer from metal fatigue from repeated bending. My decathlon is upgraded with composite spars... I'm not worried about delamination or anything like that because with my plane it's less of a wing, and more of a series of inspection panels with little bits of wing attached every so often. Lol.

blackhawks81H ... we have a Stearman and a L3 I very much enjoy the vintage aircraft. Stearman is OK to takeoff a dream to fly and a bitch to land .

@@larrygreen8912 Without the skylights. They leak and kill a wing.

They are not allowed unless specifically authorized by the manufacturer. Too much strength is bad too, leads to cracking

Pitkä Peura Actually AC 43.13-1B says that blind rivets shall not be used in areas that are "high stress", which this gentleman is assuming means "anything that is attached to the wing spar", which is incorrect. The spar is unaffected whether it is a blind or solid rivet. Hence it is acceptable to use blind rivets to attach the wing walk area without removing the wing. But then you can't charge those hours so...

Straight from the blind rivets section: CAUTION: For metal repairs to the air­ frame, the use of blind rivets must be spe­ cifically authorized by the airframe manu­ facturer or approved by a representative of the FAA.

Pitkä Peura So not just the manufacturer, gottit.

Problem is with all the hours and equipment(?) required to show the FAA the strength would be the same(possible upsizing of holes, or number of holes) you might as well take the loss and pay the extra cash with what you'd be losing in downtime assuming you rent it out. It certainly would turn a nightmare job into something your local sheet metal shop could do in a day or 2. Don't actually know in reality if they would even consider it for approval, and if they did what information and to what extent they actually need, not just what their papers say they need.

Yes. You are.

Next time your up close to an older Boeing 737 or 747 take a hard look and what holds it together, but they are not allowed on GA aircraft as the extra strength leads to cracking on thinner panels.

AC43-14 allows them to be used (as mechanicall locking rivets): Mechanical-lock rivets have a device on the puller or rivet head which locks the center stem into place when installed. Many friction-lock rivet center stems fall out due to vibrations; this in turn, greatly reduces its shear strength. The mechanical-lock rivet was developed to prevent that problem. Various manufacturers make mechanical-lock fasterners such as: Bulbed Cherrylock, CherryMax, Olympic-Loks, and Huck-Loks.

Angel Reading I built the wing walks "roots" for the 28s at the Vero beach piper for the past two years deff not easy

Depends on how much $$$ you think it is worth. I always tell people to buy what you can afford to maintain.

No such thing as too much information in the Aviation world!

We did this on our PA-28-181 without removing the wing, just a fuel tank. It was easy.

Deaths Decade:______Piper________Cessna 70's_________ 1854________ 2196 80's_________ 1318________ 1858 90's__________ 905________ 1247 00's__________ 549_________ 850 Total:______4,626_______6,151 Cessna increased only 33% VS. a 49% baseline. Accidents Decade:_____Piper_____Cessna 70's_______10,474_____15,784 80's________6,462_____11,624 90's________4,087______7,585 00's________2,444______4,579 Total:____23,467____39,572 Cessna increased only 69% VS. a 49% baseline.

@@davidb2045 hey, how did you do that? from wich part of the wing did you replace the wing walk?

According to the video, he also had to remove the landing gear, baggage door, all the wiring and insulation, instrument panel, control yoke, windscreens, the complete firewall forward. He needed to scrap the airplane in order to replace the wing walk. You should trade your Cessna in on a brain.

Because you aren't legally allowed to repair unless if you are a holder of an A&P cert. If a mechanic didn't know how to "run some rivets" then how the hell would he had received his cert.

@@ryannickos3557 I builing semi trailers for 30 years and I was wondering 🤔 how you bucked rivets on a plane in some of those spots and I will get my A&P in do time !

Also because if you are not skilled enough to do this work now, this is not the job to build your skill on/ practice on!

Why bother. Just paint over it.

Deaths Decade:______Piper________Cessna 70's_________ 1854________ 2196 80's_________ 1318________ 1858 90's__________ 905________ 1247 00's__________ 549_________ 850 Total:______4,626_______6,151 Cessna increased only 33% VS. a 49% baseline. Accidents Decade:_____Piper_____Cessna 70's_______10,474_____15,784 80's________6,462_____11,624 90's________4,087______7,585 00's________2,444______4,579 Total:____23,467____39,572 Cessna increased only 69% VS. a 49% baseline.

He probably failed to mention removing rivets due to repercussions from winers like you. Do people a favor and they`ll use it against you.

Blow me Greg! You troll douche bag!

Hey Greg I know your mom said your “special” but she meant it another way from what you think.

Oh Farmer Ted, if you can't solve problems on your own, stay in the field and turn dirt. For the life of me, I can't understand how anyone can make it through life with half a brain. On the other hand, it's probably really easy going through life not knowing what you don't know and never trying to solve problems. I guess you just don't think about things.

I’m glad you don’t fly one as well. All planes have issues.