PL 11 Airtruck Documentary ZK BPV MP4

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Roger Young

Roger Young

9 жыл бұрын

Documentary about the building of PL-11 Airtruck ZK-BPV. This aircraft was designed by Luigi Pellarini and built by Bennett Aviation in Te Kuiti New Zealand. It is a significant bit of history because the PL-11 Airtruck was the first commercial aircraft to be designed and built in New Zealand.
I guess the real hero of the PL-11 story is Mr G E F Young, an Aeronautical Engineer who had previously worked with de Haviland in the UK. Geoff took over the design work after Luigi got so annoyed and frustrated with the New Zealand CAA (Air Department) that he virtually abandoned the design task. But Geoff checked all of Luigi's design calculations, supervised the necessary modifications of prototype #1 as well as production of prototype #2 (ZK-CKE). You probably need to watch the video to get the rest of the story. I have spent hundreds of hours "creating" this video but felt that the task was justified and necessary to counter the heaps of misguided opinion and mis-information that has been floating around in aviation circles about this unusual aircraft.
Roger Young

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@praveenb9048
@praveenb9048 3 жыл бұрын
04:48 "If the thing was going to fly, it needed somewhere to mount the wings". You have to love a design philosophy like that.
@lozjones315
@lozjones315 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an important historical record. Well done.
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nzsaltflatsracer8054
@nzsaltflatsracer8054 8 ай бұрын
The Airtruck was such a logical machine with all the bits in the appropriate places for it's intended job. I saw it flying in Dannevirke as a kid & it blew me away. Here I am at 72, living in Idaho & still flying weird shit!
@angelreading5098
@angelreading5098 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderfully well researched record of a most unusual but capable aircraft.
@jacobkemp1183
@jacobkemp1183 5 жыл бұрын
Nice too see someone cares about our avation history, I'm 27 now, first found out about this ag Aircraft when I was 11 from a topdressing pilot. Found more information about again at age 13 after harassing the library at Pukekohe, they gave me The Topdressers book by G somebody, can't remember. Good on you for making a video of our lost aviation history, enjoyed it. Yours Respectfully Jake😉
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jake. The book you mention would have been "The Topdressers" by Janic Geelen. I'm not certain but I think he lived in TeAwamutu. His book was published (or was it printed?) by NZ Aviation Press, P O Box 50 TeAwamutu.
@ablemagawitch
@ablemagawitch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the time and effort to make this video on What I know as the " Transavia PL-12 Airtruk " due to unique look and the usage in film series of "MAD MAX" and specifically the " Beyond Thunder Dome" , in the USA as young pre-teen . You have captured and collected history that would have otherwise become lost to time as so much of history and unique products. The fact in just 5 years that 12,603 (as of October 31st 2020) people have watched this great documentary. You have paid forward a debt of knowledge and collective history of people who industry and actions have not been well documented and/or sadly deemed not worthy by governmental archivists to make such information part of the national library and archives. I imagine Aviation Museums are equally appreciative of your efforts.
@russell6341
@russell6341 Жыл бұрын
I swear I truly love the Kiwis and Aussies for the names they give to some of their town's and landmarks they just have a way of rolling off the tounge that most countries failed at
@southernsailor8296
@southernsailor8296 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting so much time in to produce such a good informative documentary. Thoroughly enjoyed it! from a young kiwi about to go on his first solo flight! cheers
@JessHull
@JessHull 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job with this documentary. This is a plane that I have always liked since I was a small child reading about it in a old popular mechanics magazine issue.
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for the compliment. I was not aware the Airtruck had featured in Popular Mechanics mag.
@VerbranntiChaib1
@VerbranntiChaib1 5 жыл бұрын
This is worthy of screening on Netflix.
@johnhodges8185
@johnhodges8185 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the time and effort that you put int this wonderful video. Unfortunately much of this inspirational pioneering courage to create something from nothing is missing form our modern lives.Proud to be a Kiwi, though living in Sydney
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John
@SISTER76
@SISTER76 3 ай бұрын
John Carver Meadows Frost died young at 63, on his 64th birthday, now I understand, he went away to that island, far from everything, I looked for his peace of mind, he finally finished as it began, I will never forget flying saucers, they were created by human beings, he created one with Andreas Epp.
@johnzothepryor5701
@johnzothepryor5701 4 жыл бұрын
Saw the Airtruk at Te Kuiti in the early sixties when it was being built. Saw another topdressing on a sheep farm at Wharepapa in the 80s. Also recall seeing one at Kerikeri airport in the 90s.
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
I believe I need to add some comment in regard to the claims made by Shar Young about Jeff Young's involvement with the NZ built Airtruck. For the sake of others who read this post I agree there might possibly be no contradiction in what s/he has claimed as opposed to the video I produced about the manufacture of the PL11 aircraft ZK-BPV in Te Kuiti, New Zealand. The "problem" is with dates. I would like to see the DATES on those work documents Shar refers to where Jeff Young was doing major work on the PL11 Airtruck(s). I feel sure that they would almost certainly be AFTER Waitomo Aircraft Company ceased to exist and Geoff Young had moved to Gisborne, VIC., Australia in Jan 1965. Please NOTE JEFF Young and GEOFF Young are two different people with different qualifications. ALSO. A few facts that need to be recognized: JEFF Young was employed by Jack Worthington to do maintenance work on aircraft operated by Northern Air Services. This was because some time in 1960 Snow Bennett had told Worthington that Bennett Aviation could no longer provide the manpower needed to do maintenance on NAS aircraft. I might possibly be wrong, but as far as I know Jeff Young was never employed by Bennett Aviation nor by Waitomo Aircraft Co who built the two prototype PL11 aircraft. (Geoff Young has since confirmed that Jeff Young was never employed by Bennett Aviation nor my Waitomo Aircraft Company). GEOFF Young initially began work with Bennett Aviation in March 1960, and as Snow Bennett began to realize the qualifications and experience that Geoff had he began to look to Geoff for support. After Pellarini had walked away from the job Geoff Young took over all the design work. He eventually did get some help from Australian Civil Aviation Authority technicians, and also had discussions with Rolls Royce (in the UK) regarding his idea to re-design the PL11 and use a 600HP turbine engine instead of the huge and heavy P&W radial engine. The overhaul of the engine that was installed in PL11 #1 ZK-BPV had been done done by Aero Engine Services, Rukuhia (Hamilton airport) and Alf Coleman from AES was present the first time that engine was started after it had been installed in the PL11 aircraft ZK-BPV. PS: Geoff Young, the man I had worked with in 1960 on the manufacture of prototype #1 (ZK-BPV) has assured me that during the time he was involved with manufacture of PL11 Airtruck prototypes [March 1960 to January 1965] the Jeff Young of Northern Air Services was not involved in any way with the manufacture or modification of the two Airtruck prototypes. A few other bits of significant info' : It was probably sometime in 1960 that Luigi Pellarini effectively walked away from the PL11 job in disgust because the NZCAA officials did not seem to recognize his knowledge and experience in designing and building aircraft. By the time he had started on design of the PL11 Luigi had already designed and built several successful aircraft. After settling back in Australia Luigi Pellarini was instrumental in starting up the Transavia company and, working with Australian CAA, had approval for his PL12 design long before NZCAA gave approval for the NZ built PL11 in 1966. By that time (1966) Waitomo Aircraft Company had run out of money. The first PL11 prototype ZK-BPV was written-off when it crashed on 8th October 1963. The pilot Jack Worthington survived. Geoff Young was the engineer who was sent out to examine the wreckage - I have copies of some of the photos he took. And by that time he was well on the way with manufacture of PL11 #2 ZK-CKE which was completed Dec 1964. When Waitomo Aircraft ran out of money Geoff Young (and his wife) moved to Australia [Jan 1965] and all subsequent work done for Northern Air Services (now part of Rural Aviation, New Plymouth) was possibly done under the supervision of JEFF Young. But GEOFF Young had done all the necessary design work and supervised the manufacture and test flights of PL11 #2. He gave me copies of videos (from Super8 movie film) he had made of some of the test flights. I have also been told that PL11 #2 (ZK-CKE) was, for some time, used by Rural Aviation for aerial topdressing work (Pilot Don Ercegg). According to an Air Safety Network accident report, ZK-CKE was destroyed in a take-off accident on 1 March 1967 when the aircraft was being operated by Barr Brothers (Ardmore) and the pilot Richard Druce Tatham was fatally injured. Roger Young 27 Sept 2020
@sharynyoung1
@sharynyoung1 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my father Jeff Young working on the AirTruck. You are right, Roger, he was employed by Northern Air Services from 1961-1967. I believe he was contracted under them to work on the Airtruck for the other companies.
@flightofarrow
@flightofarrow 2 жыл бұрын
MADD Max beyond thunder dome brought me here , thanks!
@scepta64
@scepta64 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. Thank you. I never knew that history. I grew up with beavers and dc3’s spreading super in Gisborne and my father was the only ag helicopter pilot on the east coast from 1968 in the early days following on from the late Frank Mettner. As a kid I’d hang out at the aerodrome crawling over old R series Bedford loaders and waking up to beavers howling off the runway heading to the next job.
@Airfasco
@Airfasco 8 жыл бұрын
Great and nice job and flying one PL12 and the last AT300 and have 3 more in parts. CAVU ... Dennis
@kermets
@kermets 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool....Cheers Brett
@Wetcorps
@Wetcorps 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
@Roger391000
@Roger391000 5 жыл бұрын
NOTICE from Copyright holder for this video: - Please feel free to download this video and send links to other interested persons. I recently watched a documentary video about the birth and development of "Aerial Topdressing" in New Zealand [video entitled "The Super Pilots"]. It is a well produced documentary and covers several of the unsuccessful attempts by various companies to manufacture aircraft specifically for Aerial Topdressing in New Zealand. It does mention the Australian built Transavia PL12 Airtruk but not even a whisper about this courageous attempt by a small team of "Kiwis" [ie: New Zealand citizens] to manufacture the PL11. I take this as a deliberate attempt to delete this project from the annals of NZ aviation history. Even the wonderful MOTAT [Museum of Transport and Technology] in Auckland NZ used to have a magnificent scale model of the PL11 in their display. But this has been removed and replaced with an ex-Barr-Brothers Transavia PL12 . I want the world to know that there once was a small team of "Kiwis" who had the courage to attempt what you see in the video I have placed here. Roger Young PS: On one of my visits back to NZ - possibly 2008 - I did see some parts of the tail section(s) of PL11 #2 (ZK-CKE) in a private museum at Tirau, near Rotorua. There was also a drawer with many of the blueprint drawings that were used to manufacture those two aircraft [ZK-BPV and ZK-CKE]. To the best of my knowledge these are the only remaining bits of "hardware" still in existence of PL11 #2. Unfortunately the bloke who owns the museum didn't have any idea how to assemble these bits of the airplane or how he should put them on display. They are NOT on public display with all the other interesting stuff he has there. You have to ask specifically to see the "remains" of PL11 Airtruck ZK-CKE. The Museum owner told me that ALL of the bits from PL11 #1 [ZK-BPV] went to the scrap-metal merchants before he could get his hands on them.
@davidmaddison2628
@davidmaddison2628 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Shame on the NZ government for taking years to issue the airworthiness certification. Disgusting!
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David: My comment (in the video) about the rumour that an Aviation Advisor to the NZ CAA "might" have had financial interest in other companies that were selling aircraft for aerial topdressing was, in reality more than just a rumour. I sometimes wonder how the bloke could sleep at night knowing that he had been instrumental in sending the Waitomo Aircraft Company bankrupt because he had been looking after his own interests and not the welfare of the overall Aviation Industry in New Zealand.
@VTOLkiwi
@VTOLkiwi 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogeryoung9042 and look at PAC now ;)
@faainspector9699
@faainspector9699 7 жыл бұрын
You can always count on government to help ruin a good product and a mans dreams.......
@JessHull
@JessHull 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that fer true.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 3 жыл бұрын
Destruction of things is what government is good at... the only thing, besides making politicians and their cronies rich.
@223o
@223o 3 жыл бұрын
Still a couple flying in NSW that I know of, still a good spreading machine
@stephaniekent8483
@stephaniekent8483 3 жыл бұрын
I flew in ZK ELL with Nigel Arkley 1980s :)
@bruceross9521
@bruceross9521 3 жыл бұрын
I knew Nigel ... he was the best pilot I ever saw.
@stephaniekent8483
@stephaniekent8483 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruceross9521 yes he was very gifted, flew in the hughes 300 and the fletcher with him too, died to soon, a great friend :(
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 3 жыл бұрын
Was it this aircraft or an Air Jeep or... ??? that played a role in the "Mad Max" series?
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
The aircraft which appeared in some movie (probably your MadMax one) was the Australian built Transavia PL12. The only movie(s) where the original NZ built machine featured are the flew snippets that appear in this video (digitized from 8mm movie file loaned to me by my friend Kevin Tinkler) and those filmed by Geoff Young - the engineer who produced Prototype #2 of the PL-11 - ZK-CKE. I have used these rare movie snippets in this video presentation with the permission of the original owners.
@sharynyoung1
@sharynyoung1 4 жыл бұрын
The Aeronautical Engineer mentioned was Jeff Young- Not GEF.
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to contradict you Shar but The name of he Aeronautical Engineer who redesigned the PL11 after Luigi Pellarini left was Geoff Young - initials were G.E.F. Young. Jeff (Jeffery) Young was the maintenance man employed by Northern Air services. Jeff had nothing to do with building the PL11. Remember, I was there -- I was one of the team who worked on the first PL11 prototype. I knew both of the other two men who had the same surname as me, and to the best of our knowledge none of us were blood relations, but we did all have the same surname of "Young".
@sharynyoung1
@sharynyoung1 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogeryoung9042 Jeffery Young was a British R.AF. trained Aeronautical Engineer employed by Northern Air Services Ltd by J. C. Worthington as Chief Engineer, then Chief Inspector on the PL11, including construction, repair and maintenance, between 1961 and 1967. As chief Engineer he was responsible for a list of other NAS Ltd and Rural Aviation Ltd aircraft .
@gerald4027
@gerald4027 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogeryoung9042.what ever happened to the on that flue in the Mad Max Movie?
@rogeryoung9042
@rogeryoung9042 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharynyoung1 Hi Shar. You mention that Jeff Young was British RAF trained. I was unaware of that, and yes he probably did do maintenance work on Worthington's machines - couple of Cessna 180s and the original PL11 ZK-BPV. At one stage Worthington also had a 150HP Piper Cub fitted with a hopper, but Jack W himself wrote that off even before I left Te Kuiti. The Geoff Young, who took over the Airtruck design work after Luigi Pellarini left had previously worked with deHaviland in the UK . He certainly had the necessary University qualifications and hands-on experience to take on the task or checking all of Luigi's work and supervising the construction of PL11 #2 ZK-CKE. The RAF trained Jeff Young you mentioned might have been involved with modifications to ZK-BPV, but in my discussions with Geoff Young, after he moved to VIC in Australia, he spoke as though he was the one only who assessed and supervised all the necessary mods to ZK-BPV. When he saw the video I had produced he admitted that he never had time to even think about taking photos of the development of ZK-CKE (PL11 #2). He was too busy "talking" with engineers from Civil Aviation Authority AND worrying about where the money would come from to pay his staff each fortnight.
@sharynyoung1
@sharynyoung1 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogeryoung9042 Good to hear from you. I have found documentation that shows Jeffery (Mills) Young was indeed the Chief Inspector for the PL11 Airtruck (construction, repair and maintenance.). J.C Worthington was managing director (N.A.S.) and friend. D. Simmonds the Engineering Manager at Rex Aviation. Jeff Young was Chief Engineer for Northern Air Services Ltd, later part of Rural Aviation Ltd. Maintenance, repair and overhaul was undertaken on Cessna 180,185,188, 172,182, PA18, DH82 Taylor 22 Kookaburra, Continental 0470,10470, 10520. 0320 Lycoming 0200 Gypsy Major. PW Wasp.P11 Airtruck. These numbers probably make more sense to you than to me. If Geoff Young is still alive, I would be most interested to correspond with him and get a photo of him, as he most likely knew my father, Jeff Young. My brother and I often stayed on Te Kumi airport watching our father work on the airtruck and other aircraft. We often had Christmas with the Worthingtons. There are so many coincidences here. It is fascinating.
@SISTER76
@SISTER76 3 ай бұрын
John Carver FROST great ingenier
@VinceCollis
@VinceCollis 8 ай бұрын
Same as Australia government with no faith local product
@OOTurok
@OOTurok 3 жыл бұрын
YOU! 👉 me? 👈 You... You have a plane. I have? Uh huh. It might just save your life. It will?
@colonelbeatson6027
@colonelbeatson6027 3 жыл бұрын
need to go back to school i see
@colonelbeatson6027
@colonelbeatson6027 3 жыл бұрын
so this is click bait
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