Plane CRASHES due to FUEL EXHAUSTION near Modesto, CA

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2 ай бұрын

A Mooney M20K aircraft (N38RK) with two occupants requested a slow descent into Oakdale Airport. The pilot declared an emergency due to low fuel. ATC offered guidance to nearby airports (Oakdale and Stockton) and potential emergency landing options on highways. Unfortunately, N38RK lost radar contact and reported they were going down.
Later, communication was established with a Piper Malibu (N431ET). They relayed that two occupants were okay, but the plane had crash-landed. ATC then provided a phone number for the pilot.
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@randythorne4401 Ай бұрын

From Auburn to Modesto, and not enough fuel, amazing.

@jlh9910 Ай бұрын

no kidding must have launched with 1/4 tank or something or massive leak.

@randythorne4401 Ай бұрын

Besides! it was down hill.! @@jlh9910

@oldsalt8011 Ай бұрын

They thought the aircraft was an electric.

@Rama41 Ай бұрын

Reminds me of the firefighter's comment on arriving at a crashed airplane that had landed short due to fuel starvation. "Boy, that pilot was lucky there wasn't any fuel on that aircraft."

@mikecooke5874 Ай бұрын

"Let's see, where did I put that pen?" he says surrounded by his wrecked plane.

@Boss_Tanaka Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@suzannemcmaken4648 Ай бұрын

😂

@scottphillips7524 Ай бұрын

LOL!

@chuck_in_socal Ай бұрын

It was probably behind his ear in his rectum.

@crooked-halo Ай бұрын

I'm just a low-time, commercially certificated, instrument rated pilot who's made a couple mistakes in my 320 hours that could've cost me my life. Fuel exhaustion, however, is not one of them! I have _always_ calculated fuel needs plus reserve no matter how short the flight, then visually confirmed fuel supply & _never_ trusted the gauges completely. For a Mooney pilot on such a short flight this is almost inexcusable! Glad nobody was hurt. Hope he learns from this!

@billfly2186 Ай бұрын

Fuel is cheaper at Oakdale............apparently.

@oldsalt8011 Ай бұрын

In California maybe $10/gallon now.

@terrancestodolka4829 Ай бұрын

But the crash plane was more costly.

@Pilotc180 Ай бұрын

The stupidity of some people just amazes me

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

Are you talking about YT comments?

@catherineharris4746 Ай бұрын

Omg YES!😞

@dmimcg Ай бұрын

Not me. Joe Biden IS president after all.

@johnnorth9355 Ай бұрын

The pilots voice said it all.

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

How so?

@TheFlyingZulu Ай бұрын

@@RLTtizME Old timer... and asking for clearance descend when VFR? Weird... When you're VFR and on flight following you simply tell the controller you're going to do that and then they'll let you know if it's not okay.

@beckramsey7746 Ай бұрын

bet he hasn't had a flight review in about 15 years... lol

@rnav36 Ай бұрын

This is the type of GA pilot who always says airline pilots are not "real pilots" and they don't know how to do real flying.

@cruisinguy6024 Ай бұрын

I live in an area with a huge population of boomers with brain rot. It’s eye opening just watching them shopping in a store let alone the bonkers things I see them do behind the wheel. I saw one the other day driving on a flat. People tried to signal her but she waved everyone off and soon the tire shredded, flung off, and she kept driving on the rim with sparks flying.

@GDuncan8002 Ай бұрын

Any Slingblade fans here? "It ain't got no gas in it!"

@MeerkatADV Ай бұрын

I'm so confused. He barely made it halfway. Did he take off without enough fuel or fail to switch a tank or something?

@RetreadPhoto Ай бұрын

Oakdale was off his left side, not right side. He said that wrong twice.

@TrueSight_333 Ай бұрын

Too bad - I'm glad they landed safely but this was completely on the PIC: FAR 91.151 Fuel Requirements for VFR Flight If you are operating an airplane, you are required to ensure that you have ENOUGH FUEL TO FLY to your airport of intended landing and assume normal cruise speed for another 30 minutes during the day, and 45 minutes at night.

@malahammer Ай бұрын

There may be another reason earlier in the flight. You do not know. Fuel leak? Excessive ATC delays? Anything!

@TrueSight_333 Ай бұрын

@@malahammer that’s why you budget as per FAR 91.151. Look at the reg.

@alukata9763 Ай бұрын

@@TrueSight_333 If you have a fuel leak, then your budget my go out of the plane very quickly.

@TrueSight_333 Ай бұрын

@@alukata9763 that is true, however, the pilot said nothing about a fuel leak or any other abnormality, which is usually something they will add to the record when they declare minimum fuel or a fuel emergency. This acts as a CYA of sorts for the debrief they're going to get afterward. We’ll see what the NTSB has to say about it when the time comes.

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

We believed you without the research.

@kevin1873 Ай бұрын

How is this even possible? During my flight training, my flight instructor drilled into my head to pick identifiable landmarks on the ground for fuel, time & distance to destination calculations along the route of flight. This isn't a car you can simply pull over to the side of the road. There are day and night VFR fuel regulations put in place for a reason. You as the PIC are also responsible for other lives on board your plane. Let this be a lesson to all pilots who keep up with these clearly avoidable crashes. Be safe everyone!

@Boodieman72 Ай бұрын

Unless there was a fuel leak this is on the pilot.

@love2fly558 Ай бұрын

Even if it’s a leak, your flight planner log gives fuel burned and remaining on each checkpoint. Verify your fuel qty as such, if it’s way off, consider a leak.

@georgelyddane8283 Ай бұрын

@@love2fly558This is great advice, didn’t really consider this during training, thanks for putting that out there!

@user-nk3tt6zt2l Ай бұрын

Did pilot forget to " get gas?"

@watchgoose Ай бұрын

he said they kept him up there for a while....

@gummel82 Ай бұрын

@@watchgooseWho kept him up there? He's flying VFR...

@gsdalpha1358 Ай бұрын

Is the fuel issue all on the pilot? Early in the conversation, he says "well, we've been kept here, so I just wanted to make sure". And he sounded pretty unhappy about it. Why were they "kept up here"? And for how long? Granted, pilot should've factored in a safety margin on fuel, but was he kept in some crazy holding patterns for way too long?

@AndersTheNuthead Ай бұрын

That seems to refer to an altitude restriction. He was VFR on flight following, so he was likely issued something like “maintain at or above 6,500” and didn’t like that. But that would help his fuel burn, not hurt it (unless there’s some crazy headwinds). Even if he was given some delay, it’s his responsibility to advise ATC and get down on the ground. If he has only a few gallons remaining, he needs to use his PIC authority, so blame to ATC seems unfair.

@jdotsalter910 Ай бұрын

He's flying VFR with "flight following" meaning ATC just advises of traffic. ATC said altitude is at "your discretion" which means "you do you" He was not under control of ATC. He could fly VFR in that area without talking to anybody if he wanted to, so it is all on him. He sounded like an old guy who probably shouldn't be flying honestly.

@darrylr.4983 Ай бұрын

Good luck getting insurance after a stunt like that. At least they walked away from it.

@cruisinguy6024 Ай бұрын

Are you not aware that planes sometimes run out of fuel due to things beyond the pilots control?

@darrylr.4983 Ай бұрын

@@cruisinguy6024 Rarely. The fact he was asking for a special descent says he was aware of his fuel state. And the flight was very short. Fuel starvation accidents are 10% mechanical and 90% pilot error.

@TheKahunas2722000 Ай бұрын

Isn’t this the second Mooney aircraft that has gone down lately? Glad they made it safely .

@user-pc9it3kt2o Ай бұрын

The only time I ever ran out of gas is when I was driving a vehicle not my own and it had a bad gas gauge that read more than 1/4 full when it was actually empty. What was his excuse?

@georgehardie2016 Ай бұрын

Guy should lose his license wtf no question put another person in jeopardy like that

@thejackbox Ай бұрын

He’ll probably have to do a 709 ride where that will be a possibility. Not probable, but a possibility.

@user-sc7py7ut3q Ай бұрын

Back in the day it almost happened to me in a C-150 on a very long solo cross country but only once. Pilots must factor in ground speed not airspeed for the next scheduled airport refueling stop especially with strong headwinds. My calculated ground speed was 60 mph.

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

That and look at the fuel gauges and tach time.

@user-sc7py7ut3q Ай бұрын

@@AvgDudeBelieve me when you're fuel is low you can't take your eyes off the fuel gauge.

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

@@user-sc7py7ut3q I fly a 150, and if I land with under half a tank, I’m putting gas in. If I ever got low on gas at an airport with outrageous fuel prices, I’d put enough in at least to ensure I could make it to an airport with cheaper gas. This guy must’ve taken off with little measurable gas in the tanks counting on luck to make it. That’s just insane gambling with your life to save a few bucks. And now his insurance company likely won’t pay off.

@user-sc7py7ut3q Ай бұрын

@@AvgDudeBy putting enough in how can you insure you're going to make it to the next airport with cheaper gas if the weather changes dramatically??

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

@@user-sc7py7ut3q If the weather is iffy, then don’t fly.

@megadavis5377 Ай бұрын

There is no "range" , as in distance capabilities, on an aircraft; there is only, ONLY "endurance", as in time capable. The engine is only going to run for so many hours and minutes. How far you travel in that amount of time is left up to constantly changing variables. Don't put your trust in any pilot who boasts ranges.

@cadmanchannel Ай бұрын

Went past Lodi too.

@jaykay6412 Ай бұрын

Well. In his defense, th fuel in Lodi is also too expensive

@cadmanchannel Ай бұрын

I knew a guy whose mother was killed by his step father because of the cost of gas. Was about 1/4 mile short. @@jaykay6412

@cadmanchannel Ай бұрын

I knew a guy whose step father was saving a few bucks, and crashed 1/4 mile short of Hayward. He survived, but my friend's mom did not.

@B3burner Ай бұрын

I live in Oakdale. I wonder why I haven’t heard about this until watching this video?

@wcolby Ай бұрын

Because you’re not watching the news and you don’t listen to the radio you’re fixated on TikTok and you spend most of your time on the phone or playing video games in the dark.

@afdchocolatemilk2107 Ай бұрын

My biggest fear is running out of fuel.

@backandforthupanddow Ай бұрын

Let’s hope it was a system failure and not simple stupidity

@kenclark9888 Ай бұрын

Why he didn’t re fuel or stop earlier ?

@trixie737flygal Ай бұрын

Likely fuel STARVATION versus EXHAUSTION. Registered to a 68yr old Private Pilot (issued 2009) lawyer with basic med. How he didn't know VFR is descent is at his discretion... "Kept up here..." Mmmmkay, he never was above 5,000.

@jamesring7991 Ай бұрын

I'm guessing ATC had previously issued an altitude restriction

@trixie737flygal Ай бұрын

If he was using ATC Flight Following, all he needed to do was cancel and continue VFR and do what he wanted. However, there was no airport along his route between his departure of Auburn and Oakdale (but for private field Farmington/CN29) anyway. So, why was he descending - esp if fuel was actually an issue - so far out? He was literally halfway on a 75nm mi flight.

@CrayCraigie Ай бұрын

You were supposed to put the moonshine in the tank!

@thetilo8682 Ай бұрын

According to SkyVector it looks like he overflew a whole bunch of airports / airfields before this clip started.. why did he not land and take on fuel?? poor decision making. Lucky to walk away from it.

@harrykrebs Ай бұрын

Some folks just shouldn't have a pilot's licence.

@jamesharris184 Ай бұрын

Well I think I'll just stick to motorcycles

@tooge47 Ай бұрын

fuel exhaustion ? The fuel got TIRED ?

@sean8671 Ай бұрын

Sounds like some piss poor planning by a weekend warrior.

@evanlinn5869 Ай бұрын

How many airports did they overfly trying to get to Oakdale? Didn’t have enough fuel to fly 80 miles? Probably one the worst cases of “gethomeitis” ever. Some folks shouldn’t be flying. Anything.

@lxxsxxx7845 Ай бұрын

If this was fuel exhaustion (as compared to starvation), that phone call won't be pleasant and I "feel" there might be a 709 ride in this pilot's future. Or maybe he will decide that this was the last straw and will hang it up. At least he's alive to talk about it!

@samomiotek7210 Ай бұрын

Copy a phone number < get the hell away from the wrecked plane

@AlyssaM_InfoSec Ай бұрын

A lot of people quick to assume here. Yes, if this pilot took off with less 30 minutes of fuel (from an airport with fuel service) that's a huge blunder on his part. However, it could also be that there was a fuel leak somewhere, we don't know. All that said, it seems likely from his request for a "slow descent" that he knew he was tight on fuel. Assuming that's true, that is the time to let ATC know you have a problem. I don't understand the unwillingness of pilots to admit there's an issue until things have gone critical mass.

@SoloPilot6 Ай бұрын

When you admit there's a issue, you get the bureaucrats involved . . .which is rarely a good thing.

@gawebm Ай бұрын

The real stupid part was to start a descent and give up altitude when he knew he was low on fuel. Sheer idiocy.

@SoloPilot6 Ай бұрын

@@gawebmNo. Descending means reducing power, thus trading altitude for distance while stretching fuel.

@deanc.5984 Ай бұрын

Gandolf? 90yrs old?

@SkyLineR34GT-R Ай бұрын

"you shall not copy!?"

@alalal8157 Ай бұрын

Oakdale gas must be 0.50 dollar cheaper.....

@nightwaves3203 Ай бұрын

oops

@oldsalt8011 Ай бұрын

Ole Joe would not ever to be able to do the job of an ATC.

@firepilot109 Ай бұрын

It should be an automatic suspension with mandatory retraining if you run out of fuel due to incompetence. Also insurance company shouldn't pay either. We have a 6/260 with mains and tips and have a system on how to switch between all 4 selectors and also minimums on which we will not go over! These people are the reason your insurance in through the roof.

@trixie737flygal Ай бұрын

Yet "318 Recent Fuel Exhaustion and Fuel Starvation Accidents" just came out on the Av News Talk Podcast. I am betting more than likely starvation.

@gawebm Ай бұрын

Why the hell did he start a descent if he was low on fuel??? The stupidity is hard to comprehend. He should not be flying an airplane.

@maxsdad538 Ай бұрын

Kinda hard to stay airborne when you run out of fuel.

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

No excuse for that. None.

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

Fuel leak. Faulty instruments. There are other POSSIBLE reasons. Stop clucking.

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

@@RLTtizME You should always check the fuel visually in pre-flight. Any leaks will be apparent then too. This was almost assuredly negligence or carelessness.

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

@@AvgDude You are most assuredly a BarcaLounger aviation second guesser.

@AvgDude Ай бұрын

@@RLTtizME Oh fk off. I own my own plane with over 320 hours of solo cross country to over 75 different airports in the past three years. Fuel management is definitely something I know how to do, Taking off with a questionable fuel supply is a mistake of complacency and relying too much on luck.

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

@@AvgDude GFYFB.

@toadflax636 Ай бұрын

I have 3000+ hrs in GA without a IFR ticket and I was never disappointed with anticipation of how dumb and assuming most GA pilots are.

@vickyharrison2227 Ай бұрын

Bit harsh to give him a “number”😮

@malahammer Ай бұрын

He wasn't able to talk with him over the radio, he had to get in touch with him somehow.

@TaliyahP Ай бұрын

It wasn't a deviation, it was for Search and Rescue purposes

@vickyharrison2227 Ай бұрын

@@malahammer yep I was trying to be funny …. Soz

@thejackbox Ай бұрын

Yeah, a phone call is the least of his concerns. Now he’s gotta deal with insurance and if the FAA is in a bad mood, a 709 ride.

@SoloPilot6 Ай бұрын

No idea what the cause of this is, but for all of you ground-gripping aviation experts, let me mention that the FARs have only ONE requirement for fuel gauge accuracy: They must show empty when the tank is empty. They don't have to show actual fuel quantity. It's possible to see a much higher level than is actually aboard (which is why it's important to STICK the tanks, not just make sure that the caps are tight).

@s_m_v Ай бұрын

You can, of course, cite the regulation that requires a fuel gauge to only be accurate when the tank is empty...

@SoloPilot6 Ай бұрын

@@s_m_v Until the 2017 update, FAR 23.1337(b)(1) was used, which stated simply that "each fuel quantity indicator must be calibrated to read ‘zero’ during level flight when the quantity of fuel remaining in the tank is equal to the unusable fuel supply." "Unusable fuel supply" is bureaucratese for "empty." N38RK got its latest certificate in 2010, thus operated under the pre-2017 rule (as do the vast majority of aircraft). The update rewrote this, with a requirement that it show "quantity of usable fuel" -- but does NOT specify an accuracy standard, other than that it show zero when the tank is empty. They really CAN'T, due to the laws of physics regarding such things as ullage, instrument reaction times, etc. -- a little turbulence can slosh fuel back and forth like the surf coming in at Waimea, alternately driving the sensor float up and down across half a tank worth of readings. This means that the earlier standard is STILL the only specific level that the gauge has to show.

@s_m_v Ай бұрын

@@SoloPilot6 ...and of course your interpretation of this is official FAA guidance.

@SoloPilot6 Ай бұрын

@@s_m_v No, I'm reporting official FAA regulation, go look it up. Feel free to provide text of a regulation which includes any other specific standard.

@GDuncan8002 Ай бұрын

Regulations are minimum standards. A healthy sense of self preservation is often of more value.

@TheTransporter007 Ай бұрын

Plane: *crash* ATC: Please advise when you're ready to copy a number, possible pilot deviation.

@TaliyahP Ай бұрын

Wasn't a deviation, he was trying to get in contact with him so get could send help

@TheTransporter007 Ай бұрын

@@TaliyahP Aware. Was making a joke.

@unclejoe8279 Ай бұрын

I was on that airplane and nothing like that happened. I will make a video of it someday. It will be shocking!

@annazavrazhnova9005 Ай бұрын

Fuel minimums should be at least 1hr

@AC-jk8wq Ай бұрын

Sounds like cognitive issues… Lots of things not going right… Typical of CO poisoning or lack of O2… 😃

@mrabrasive51 Ай бұрын

Insurance fraud comes to mind!.the pilot sounded pretty calm and nonchalant for an emergency!😊

@RLTtizME Ай бұрын

You're the guy who says every fire video is arson. LOL.

@Molon_Labe1776 Ай бұрын

TBH you want a pilot who can remain calm and collective during an emergency. But...If I was a betting man I would say this was due to controlled fuel-exhaustion.

@trixie737flygal Ай бұрын

He said "out of fuel" but I am betting on fuel starvation.

@GDuncan8002 Ай бұрын

@@Molon_Labe1776 Collected, also.