Planer Work: Working on the Windy Hill Castings and a 4 foot Straightedge

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Steve Watkins at Work

Steve Watkins at Work

Жыл бұрын

I need a set of 4 foot long cast iron rails to make a grinding sled for the Monarch 10 EE Lathe... The Bed needs work and I asked Windy Hill Foundry for help in making the rails I need. Now it's time to plane and handscrape them! But first I use the Antique Planer to make a tool I need.

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@stephenvale2624
@stephenvale2624 Жыл бұрын
You need to remember, that gravity is stronger now than when we were younger. That is why things get heavier. Gravity inflation...
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I figured it had to be something like that! :)
@kevinmountford4541
@kevinmountford4541 Жыл бұрын
That takes me back some 46 years! As an apprentice I would setup and operate a 26foot table AC/DC planer. It also had two vertical milling heads and one horizontal milling head along with the usual planner heads, what a beast it was. 8hrs to strip off a finished job and setup the next. The cutting times were usually about another 8 hrs depending on complexity. Happy memories. Thank you. P.s. it would appear you don't need a step ladder to get upto the table!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Nope no stepladder needed :)
@dirkbotha3733
@dirkbotha3733 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your video. Hope you closed the other side of the oven.. All the best for the new yeas. Missing Don.
@donmadere4237
@donmadere4237 Жыл бұрын
I’m still around!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching till the end :_)
@tilliesinabottle
@tilliesinabottle Жыл бұрын
Don's shaper can be a planer too, just mount a tool in the vice and a very small workpiece in the toolpost. Stand on your head and bingo!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I'll bet if he starts now he has time to perfect standing on his head by the time the shaper is finished!
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining Жыл бұрын
very good job steve
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@djfaber
@djfaber Жыл бұрын
That wasn't rain, that was the crowd of people watching, clapping =)
@SgtCude59
@SgtCude59 Жыл бұрын
Hello Steve yes it seams like we never get to finish one job alway have 2 to 4 half done . Good video enjoyed watching have a good day be looking for another show
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@hinz1
@hinz1 Жыл бұрын
Lathe with screwed on box ways, similar to linear rails on CNC, would be kinda nice. Contact area could be precision scraped and once the ways are worn, a trip to big surface grinder would fix it.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
That trip to a surface grinder is getting real expensive these days...
@danrabenhorst2549
@danrabenhorst2549 Жыл бұрын
Don have a happy new year and stay away from Steve so you don't get sick.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I was keeping away...
@Gjed16
@Gjed16 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the pointing out around 27:00 that achieving parallelism offers no advantage in this type of tool. I had been thinking "why is he not trying to reference that already planed surface?".
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Your welcome... I try to explain most things and you are one of the few that pick up on the little details :)
@PeregrineBF
@PeregrineBF Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins The angle on the non-"90°" side might matter a bit. If it's 46° it won't fit to measure the whole of a 45° dovetail, for example. But if it's 44° it'd work fine. And it doesn't have to be at all precise, just enough that it can fit under the dovetail to check the surface for straightness.
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year to you, your wife, and Don too.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Same to you!
@donmadere4237
@donmadere4237 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Years Craig!
@roylucas1027
@roylucas1027 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video. I’m always amazed how much time and work go into the items that you make. Have a great 2023, stay healthy and keep those videos coming.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thank you... I did not show you the other 2.5 hours of video I shot on it either ;)
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Жыл бұрын
A good long video, nice to see. I wish you and your family and friends a Happy New Year.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@dominicmolloy561
@dominicmolloy561 6 ай бұрын
‘Caught the wife sneaking about’ 😂
@junkmannoparts9696
@junkmannoparts9696 Жыл бұрын
Watch out here comes the Boss . JM
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I need eyes in the back of my head :)
@chucktodd7329
@chucktodd7329 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how long the second door will be open?
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
20 nanoseconds after the camera went off and I turned around :)
@theharbinger2573
@theharbinger2573 Жыл бұрын
The Never Ending Workshop. I guess that makes Don your version of a Luck Dragon Have a good New Year Steve (and Don)
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks..
@donmadere4237
@donmadere4237 Жыл бұрын
You have a great new year also!
@michaelrandle4128
@michaelrandle4128 Жыл бұрын
Glad your nearly over the flue, I’m about a week into it. Don’t do too much, your bodies working hard to fight the virus. Tell the Don to steer clear of everyone with so much as a sniffle. Thanks for the vlog, love that planer.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I was going over to Don's the very morning I started to feel a little off.... Glad I did not go... I do try to be careful around him...
@donmadere4237
@donmadere4237 Жыл бұрын
Oh I have been trying
@Jeremy-iv9bc
@Jeremy-iv9bc Жыл бұрын
Glad you're feeling better steve. The flu is bad this year, I had it for 2 weeks and I hardly ever get sick.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Have a happy New Year. Consider upgrading you lift cart with 4 total lock swivel casters. I hate fixed wheel carts.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I did consider it but I like the added stability the two fixed wheels give when something heavy is on there... Thanks for watching.
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve. I make dies for metal shaping power hammers out of S7 tool steel. I use a non-harding stainless steel grill made of half inch bar on the base of my heat treating oven to allow the hot air to uniformly circulate around the parts being heat treated. A side benefit is it protects the soft ceramic material. Not my idea...came out of the book I use for the heat treat recipe. Your oven my not be large enough with the 4' straight edge but might help with smaller pieces.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great idea...
@junkmannoparts9696
@junkmannoparts9696 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve with those risers it looks like you could make some 1x1x2 blocks or 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 blocks keep up the good work . JM
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I have a 10 x 30 grinder coming that will make short work of those blocks :)
@junkmannoparts9696
@junkmannoparts9696 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins yeah some people would just throw them in the can and have fun good luck
@frankiestein4013
@frankiestein4013 Жыл бұрын
You Sir are a great worker and very smart from my observation I do realize you realize that
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks Frankie,, I'm just a regular guy with a little mechanical aptitude :)
@joekanicki5306
@joekanicki5306 Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve! I just get mesmerized by that planer. Happy New Year, glad to hear you’re feeling better.🎉
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@W4BIN
@W4BIN Жыл бұрын
Close the back door! Ron W4BIN
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
20 nanoseconds after the camera went off and I turned around and saw it was open ;)
@neffk
@neffk Жыл бұрын
I have some cast iron gears that are a bit soft. I as wondering how to give them a little surface hardness to reduce wear. Never thought I"d accidently find the answer here. Thanks Steve.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@jrk1666
@jrk1666 Жыл бұрын
my friend's father operated a planer for almost 30 years but it was much bigger than your beast, the table alone was around 30 feet long and seemingly nothing in the world could stall the table once it began moving
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
This table is the same way... It does not care one whit about anything in it's way :)
@tedfarwell3132
@tedfarwell3132 Жыл бұрын
Steve- Please post the link to your Navy cast iron stress relief study. I think it would help me out some. Thanks.
@loosewiremachineworks3410
@loosewiremachineworks3410 Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate your help. . . I’m going to get a hydraulic table cart like yours. Engine lathe chucks, rotary table, etc are too heavy for this 75 yr old kid. Guidance? And, where do the fire brick plates come from? Thx.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I love mine... You can buy them at Northern tool for about 650.00 for the 1000 lb versions like mine and they do make cheaper ones that carry less weight.. I was given the plates so I don't have a clue where to buy them.
@dickdanger6570
@dickdanger6570 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, I hope you had a wonderful Xmas and I hope your new year is awesome. I am also happy to see that scrap on your temple is healing up. Keep on doing what you're doing. It's very informative and I love watching you work.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Thanks You sir!
@waynep343
@waynep343 Жыл бұрын
I had a fight with NHRA. Over stress relieving the 4130 tubing after welding the tubular chassis on top fuel and funny cars. The back of the welds would crystalizeif not back purged but the heat from the welds would cause soft medium and hard spots in the tubing as you move away from the welds. So the tube chassis would crack just beyond the weld. I actually found a heat treating company that could fit a bare 300" wheelbase top fuel chassis in to bring it to 1100f to get the 4130 to an even temper along its whole length. So there are no hard spots and the unwelded areas are now full strength .. nope. They put me in touch with the guy who writes the specs for top fuel chassis. Ah not needed. The chassis manufacturers use reverse polarity and it pulls the heat right out of the welds . I sent my research to john force racing to the father of one of his drivers who had been killed in a race crash. I am wondering about your long oven. If you could add ceramic rope fireplace seals to the end and purge it with nitrogen to get the 21% oxygen out to avoid the black oxidation on the surface. Or would it take argon to prevent oxidation. Or do like wrapping parts in stainless wrap and throw in a chunk of paper to burn up the oxygen inside the stainless wrap. How much does the oven cost. Perhaps enough to look for a diesel gen set to run it and the house if its on wheels to plug in either building thru a proper isolation switch so there is no chance of feeding back to the power pole even on the common. A milk route owner ended up with a spare reefer unit from a crashed truck. He lived up east of pasadena california when it gets really warm in the summer. Yep power out on a hot day. Wife says lets go to a hotel. He fired up the reefer and cooled the house. Forward thinking.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
The oven was about 3000.00 . I don't really care about the oxidation as it gets planed off the surfaces that matter and it cleans off easy enough when painting the rest of the edge.. What you have to watch is getting it too hot so that a hard crust forms on the surface.. it can get really hard! You could seal the oven but for what I do it's not really needed... The gas would just be an extra cost. For small tooling or knives I can always use foil rap or bags.... I have a 20 whole house generator for the House, a big welder/generator in the shop trailer and a 43 foot motor home with a 8 k generator so I am not going to freeze or get hot... Unlike Don :) I have the older 20 k generator sitting in place for the shop but just not have found a good 500 gallon propane tank for it yet... Thanks For Watching!
@barrycaudle9926
@barrycaudle9926 Жыл бұрын
Just nitrogen should be fine to reduce oxidation. Back in the sixties the company I worked for used to anneal laminations by packing them in boxes with a fire clay sealed lid. The box was purged with nitrogen during the annealing process. Nitrogen was generated by cracking ammonia.
@nealdietz7063
@nealdietz7063 Жыл бұрын
Food for thought 🤔... Invent ( I am going to call 📞 it a Blow Piston. Note this not a mechanical item. No mechanical connection. ) at end of Stroke Blow Piston Activities holding Clapper Up. Returns to beginning of Stroke Deactivates and Clapper comes Down ready for power Stroke.... No Damage to Bit....
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
This one is already like that in that it uses fluid instead of air... There is something wrong in the hydraulic system that is causing the double clap... IT's working and not hurting anything so I have lived with it for about 7 or 8 years now... IT's a really old system and I am afraid of breaking something unobtainable... Air would not be strong enough to lift that clapper....
@Bobs-Wrigles5555
@Bobs-Wrigles5555 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins Hi Steve, talk about coincidence, I was recommended another metal planer video just after this one, and saw something that might be a solution to the clapper issue of not staying up, don't know if it would fix the double clap problem. The channel name is " Rees Acheson " and the video I watched was " Planing Southbend Lathe Bed " and he uses a similar type planer that he says he "converted to hydraulic" and at approx 7:23 it shows a wide bore short stroke ram that pulls on the clapper to lift it up on the back stroke, but it's attached in an odd way. Looking at it, I got the idea that maybe a spring could do this same job on your clapper. Have a look and see what you think, P.S. you may have to look at some of his other short videos to see the whole setup of the pulling ram. Get better soon and Happy New Year to You and Don and your loved ones.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Жыл бұрын
Good job on the planer. I wondered if you were going to reverse it early to save time. I’ve done the same thing on large surface grinders
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I get a little impatient sometimes :)
@paultopolski1978
@paultopolski1978 Жыл бұрын
Close the door on the other end of your oven. You're letting the heat out!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Got to keep the electric company in business somehow!
@dannywilsher4165
@dannywilsher4165 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins lol! We do our share in that endeavor also...
@jimlebiedz5723
@jimlebiedz5723 Жыл бұрын
I hope you realize the back door was open when you started the kiln and closed it!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Now how do you think I heat the shop? :) Thanks for watching till the end !
@curtischamblee7542
@curtischamblee7542 Жыл бұрын
? Can A base be glued to make it level or so fasting points are flat to the table???? great video thanks for the show!!!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Not really ... And it is not needed... This is all very lightly held to keep it from bending ..
@tda2806
@tda2806 Жыл бұрын
Steve, why do you get a double clap from the clapper box when the table reverses?
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Something to do with the hydraulic system... it works and has been for about 8 years so I am not going to tear into that pump made in 1943 just for that :)
@jonfranklin4583
@jonfranklin4583 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins I have been curious about that as well and though I have never worked on a hydraulic planer I have worked on hydraulics on large fishing vessels for 0ver 40 years. In thinking how the system works and not seeing the schematics I would posit that it is using a pilot operated valve that operates the clapper box lifter cylinder and perhaps when the table reverses direction the pressure differential that occurs when that big cylinder that drives the table shifts to go the opposite direction, the pressure momentarily increases at the the time the table is stopping and changing direction, it may be causing the bounce effect due to an adjustment in the valving or perhaps the operating pilot valve is worn or it could be something as simple as a needle valve that is out of adjustment. Just think of how many times that table has reversed direction in it's life! I have encountered pilot operated valves on hydraulic steering systems on boats that as they wore they were slower to react throwing the poor auto pilot slow rudder feedback info and the boat would steer like the auto pilot was drunk! Changing the pilot valves or in some cases just a good cleaning would solve the issue. You are so right Steve, extending the travel is way easier than monkeying around with the hydraulic system on a machine built in 1943. Thanks for the video's, I love watching your planer operate!
@danrabenhorst2549
@danrabenhorst2549 Жыл бұрын
What brand are your scissor lift tables? have a happy new year
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_material-handling+lift-tables+hydraulic-lift-tables-carts mine is the 1000lb one..
@holtonhasty5295
@holtonhasty5295 Жыл бұрын
I live around the Tyler Texas area. I have an A16x30 Axelson with the original carriage clutch lever if you'd like to get the dimensions and profile of it. Mine is missing the bed clamp for the taper attachment and chip pan. If you know any source that I can find take offs or get the dimensions. I would greatly appreciate it.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I am selling the 16 here at the shop... I just don't have the room to keep it.... It has a bed clamp that is currently at Windy Hill Foundry waiting on Clark to use it as a pattern for making another one for Don's 16... You might want to contact Clark and see if he can cast you one at the same time...
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Don would love to have the dimensions of the handle !
@holtonhasty5295
@holtonhasty5295 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins where is a good place to reach Don to exchange info?
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Жыл бұрын
I never get flu shots and have not gotten it in thirty years
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Well I have not had it in 30 years and have always gotten shots... Who knows what the best way is...
@Sparky6547
@Sparky6547 Жыл бұрын
how big of a piece of plywood you need for the vice cabinet? might have something
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Oh I have stuff hanging around here... Just not wanting to let it go for a door just yet :) Thanks though :)
@jd3497
@jd3497 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't most foundries have cut the sprues (you call them risers) off before delivering the casting? No reason for you to leave with a casting that's not gotten even a rough cleanup. Angle grinder would have been magnitudes faster.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Not Clarks fault.... I told him not to worry I would take care of it... I was needing to get on the road back to Texas...
@goboyz8016
@goboyz8016 Жыл бұрын
Now tell the truth, did you almost forget to close the back door on the oven once you started the heat treat? :)
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Naw.. This was a test to see how many watch to the end.... You passed :)
@goboyz8016
@goboyz8016 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins LOL. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
@chimpfoos65
@chimpfoos65 Жыл бұрын
Steve looked like when you hit the first emergency stop it did not stop or what happened if you don't mind
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
There only one stop and that is the silver lever on the bottom of the orange pendant. This was made in 1943 and even though it is the most modern planer , well it's not like today :) I kicked out the cross travel and then the table movement lever... Should have done it in reverse but I was close to the top lever...
@chimpfoos65
@chimpfoos65 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins thanks
@chimpfoos65
@chimpfoos65 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy all your work on the videos for us
@tannerhoward5974
@tannerhoward5974 Жыл бұрын
At work I'm trying to fix a big 18 foot table American tool works company planer mill that has been converted to use a mill head from a knee mill. It has been severely neglected, never oiled, and they attempted to true the table with a fly cutter. The machine is not level and I would like to properly correct that. With such a long what is the proper way to level? Should I use the table top, or use round rod in the ways to level it? The man that use to run this retired, no one else will tuch this thing.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Start at one end and level the ways side to side then work your way down the length of the bed... Forget about the table now as if it has been surfaced it's not going to be a true surface you can trust...
@tannerhoward5974
@tannerhoward5974 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins Thank you. It is difficult to find any information on these machines. As far as I know we are the only shop around that has any. We use to have 4, the small one they clame to have wore out, the biggest never made it into the shop. Instead the biggest got sold for scrap after sitting in the parking lot for 20+ years. Very interesting machines, unfortunately it is very awkward to use as a bridge mill never knowing the cutting speed, and moving slowly it doesn't move smoothly because of the hydraulic system they rigged to control it.
@tannerhoward5974
@tannerhoward5974 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins I got the ways all leveled. The table is off .015 on the lingth of it. They told me they face milled it every few years, I bet that did more harm than good. Took me a day just to clean the oiler pockets and rollers from the packed shavings. Thank you for these videos. This machine unfortunately doesn't have its planer setup anymore but it helpful to watch setups, and interesting to watch what they can do in proper condition, with someone that knows what they are doing.
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 Жыл бұрын
I thought durabar was common as pie Guess not.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Around here it's mostly rounds and the suppliers were just not interested in such a small amount....
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins yes you are right it’s mostly round bar.
@geargnasher9822
@geargnasher9822 Жыл бұрын
I thought so too but tried to buy some 2.5 square grey bar or something close recently, what I discovered was 6' minimum lengths which cost several hundred dollars plus freight. In other words, cost prohibitive for a hobbyist.
@Videowatcher2.0
@Videowatcher2.0 Жыл бұрын
close the door
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
About 20 nanoseconds after I turned off the camera :)
@Jeremyurffer
@Jeremyurffer Жыл бұрын
My father-in-law was paralyzed, and he got the flu shot and pneumonia shot every year. Typically, he would spend 4-6 weeks a year in the hospital for the flu or pneumonia. Then he didn't get the shots one year, and he didn't spend one day in the hospital that year, so we decided not to get either shot again the next year, and he never was hospitalized for the flu or pneumonia after that we stopped giving him the shots. He died 8 years later of kidney failure. I'm just telling you our experience with those shots im not for them or against them.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
I guess that's why they call it Practicing Medicine....
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
How do you know it was flu and not covid? Glad you re still kicking and making chips!
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Doctors have this little test where they stick something up your nose and try to stab your brain... IF you live they send the test off to a lab........ Influenzas A was the result...
@undaware
@undaware Жыл бұрын
Should kiss the top of the handle first no?
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
No, makes them too thin...
@seancollins9745
@seancollins9745 Жыл бұрын
why not make new rails and use the planer to cut the old rails off ??? this way they're replaceable in the future
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
That's pretty drastic surgery! I only need to true them up by about 7 thou and they will last a long time :)
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher Жыл бұрын
“The government study I rely on…” That’s your mistake right there. Believing ANYTHING that comes from the federal government is foolish at best, and quite often mortally dangerous at worst.
@10swatkins
@10swatkins Жыл бұрын
Well in the old days the Government was a lot different... This is a Navel Research Lab Study from 1948...
@skasow17
@skasow17 Жыл бұрын
I saw a glassblowing demo at Corning and they also stress relieve; the hot glass parts are put into insulated cabinets to cool slowly overnight, it’s the same procedure. Only difference is the starting temp needed and you don’t get oxidation there.
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher Жыл бұрын
@@10swatkins Fair enough brother
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