Putting the numbers to one side, Jo's ta-dah! was hilarious!

£32,961 + £16,000 (Planning and Structural) = £48,961

Hi Jo and Tim, I'm a little behind with videos and just catching up. This whole thing reads like something Kafka might have written. Thank goodness you had the money and the forbearance to carry on. You've had some horror challenges over the years. Congratulations for keeping on keeping on. New chapter! 👏🏼🥳

Crazy! My class Q in Wiltshire just got approved and checking costs it came to £7500. Nick

If you can, do it yourselves. Except the maths, get someone else to do that! 😂😂 Love you guys, and we are so looking forward to following the barn build ❤

Eye watering, I’ve sent you a Super Thanks, every little helps… Love the channel…👍🏻

Bloody hell! That's as clean as I can keep it. Watching the full process I thought around 30k before spades in the ground thinking I was going in a little rich. I now totally understand why it's easer to ask for forgiveness rather than permnission (if you're not on YT unless you are Colin Fruze 😂).

Seems it’s cheaper to build new than convert or restore something old. Best of luck with the build, you must be so excited to get going.

Ouch. Last week I thought I wouldn’t be surpised by 20K, and felt it could easily go to 40k, if not more. I’m not shocked at the total, but I am wincing in empathy. Planning is a weird political animal. I was involved with a couple that had a 1/4 square mile that they split in half, and wanted to rezone it from agricultural to rural-recreational/residential. The idea was to build (on land that was marginal for farming at best, and was 70% poplar forest, very 3 dimensionally, ah, challenging, and with significant amounts of boggy muskeg that makes your pond surrounds look positively arid.) and make a 2-and-a-half season residental camp-ground, but not for caravans. The plan was for smaller versions of your cabins to be parked there permanently and build a mini-community for snow-birds that would travel off to Florida or Europe for the winter months when we get that weeks-on-end of -20 to -40C north pole wonderland. The neighbors (who all lives on similar or even larger plots) could not be swayed it wouldn’t be endless weekends of caravans and hordes of drunken tent-by-night party, and not the long-term (20+ year) site leasses for basically summer homes and garden plots. We had our plublic hearings, and even after we had our say, the development officer stood up and say that they understood that all the raised objections could be addressed by minor amendments in our proposal, that they were going to deny it anyway, and then declared that this 1st reading would then be also considered 2nd and 3rd readings before council, and summarily stopped dead, with enough members of the county council agreeing to make it official. It was very disappointing.

Wow, it's no wonder Britain is short on over 4 million home when this is the kind of money and time it takes to go though planning, the government needs to sort this out or then next generation will be living at home with mum and dad still when the kids are 50 years old!

I think people need to understand how big the site is on this project, it is a barn plus annexe of abour 700 sm in total, with landscaping, drainage and a sewage system, it is also on a sensitive site. They are converting the equilivent of seven houses, so on the basis of £7K per 100 sq m the fees seem quite reasonable.

Holy moly! I was way off. Why does Jo use an apostrophe instead of a comma for her numbers 😅

I'm depressed I got it wrong by 2x, but very happy that side of things is now done! Makes my planning, structural, building control stuff seem very cheap!

Hi guys good to see u getting started on building

😮OMG, that’s mind boggling. Can I ask, what are your main jobs to fund all of these projects?

Congratulations again for getting that far and getting full planning permission. I am curious to know your thoughts about the whole process, i know it is easy to bash the public service for the seemingly needless bureaucracy, but taking a step back and looking at it from all the angles and the rationale for the rules etc. So you think the planning system is fit for purpose or do you think there needs to be a radical overhaul of the system? I apprciate you don't want to get political, but it would be good to know where the public service could improve to make these things less stressful.

Thanks

Wow!

Well done you got there in the end. If i lived closer to you I'd be happy to volunteer for any jobs as I'm sure others would do. I'd love to sell my house to buy something else with a bit of land.

The UK is horrendous for planning costs - we have just gone through planning here in France. No fees, no costs, just a form plus sewage report of about €700. Admittedly, I did my own plans and drawings - I think your £46K is our tolal build budget...... well not quite. BUT at least you got it through, really pleased for you all.....Julie & Ian 🏡

Really looking forward to SABS, it’s something that I have recently gone though and found the worst of the entire process. No doubt you will take it in your stride! You will probably break ground before me!

Here’s a question for you. If you put the property up for sale now ( I know you won’t consider that for a second) , what roughly would the price be. And as you asked in a previous video what’s the planning cost amounted to as a percentage of your estimated total build budget. . Looking forward to the build. 😊😊

The planning appeal in process may have been the leverage needed to get the permission granted on App 5?

I don't understand your App 1 figure atall guys, it included a Structural Engineer report, Heritage report, site survey, Ecology, Architects drawings and the Planning Consultant. I think the first application would have been around £15K in total. Perhaps you spread those reports over the four applications though???? It would be helpful to others to make it clear the majority of the costs go into the first application.

That's absolutely insane , if they tried that in Canada they would be run out of town .... We tore down a barn and put up a small house 1500 sq ft , planning was $500.00 tear down and build was $ 300, 000

Unbelievable 😮

That’s insane! Must be a decent profit in it at the end to justify it all!

That’s insane! How much will the house be worth when finished? Upwarths of half a milion pounds making this 10% of the value or something on that order ??? You got some deep pockets to go for this while building the cabin in the mean while. Congrats on getting the permit if i forgot to under that video. You are tenacious to go on with council like this. Glad you got there.

Wow, that's a lot just to get to the starting line. Actually frightening . . .

Jo, why are you putting the comma above the numbers? Doing my head in!

And we wonder why there's a housing crisis in the UK. £50k to convert a barn, albeit a big one, is a scandal. Imagine if the sad little people in the planning department were able to have a proper conversation and engage with you from day 1.

That’s insane well good luck for the build I would have thought Joe would insist on the cabin being finished before starting on the next big job as I know from experience I finish that later

£50k, that’s what you built the cabin for if i rememebr rightly. This countries planning laws are archaic! Looking forward to the build now

Oh my! I had thought of 15,000 € on Patreon, you would have stopped at application 3 ! I was so far from the final price 😝

Wow I was way off with my £7628 😮😢

I must say - I’ve never seen an apostrophe as a separator before 😂😂

These numbers make me feel sick!...... but I'm tight!

Think I said £50k. Not surprised. Now to get that cladding finished 😂

That depressed me, took me 25 years to pay off that amount on my mortgage alone.

I was way way off too

Looked back my comment on your planning success video and see I estimated £33k....tut,tut, I was £39 over your (actual) total (£32961) Slipping up in my old age!. In the early stages of planning a renovation so sadly am getting a bit too familiar with potential cost values already.....!

So I said £25k in the last video...is £6k out a decent guess? Seem crazy to think this...

You should of used lpc planning. You can been taken for a right ridem

After ur costings how many bottles of whiskey did u down to drown ur sorrows 😂😂 I'm sure if u want a few Bob people will contribute for ur vids

What is this apostrophe instead of comma for the thousand separator!! I've never seen that before!! (Am I the only one who uses , ?)

how on earth can you afford this?

Nice to no! Don't apply to build a house in your area. No wonder we as a Country have a housing shortage.

Cost is disgraceful. Although clearly legally being allowed to do this, the council are keen to put these stumbling blocks in at every opportunity to burst your budget and therefore make it prohibitively expensive. Im glad you had the funds and staying power to give the council the fingers. In reality you’ll create a family home and love to be sympathetic with your surroundings. Much more so than if just left to ruin or some industrial complex….. but the council would get a backhand for that

How the **** can those costs be justified, all that money just for planning permission.. 😢😢

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Wow. All that money and you haven’t started yet. No wonder people build without approval.

£48,961 actually 😏

You joke and laugh about this stuff like its 'just the cost of doing business' but the truth is this is outrageously egregious against everyday people who likely cant afford to be so frivolous with money. This is the painful reality of a system gone mad. I'm happy for you but sad in the realisation that there are thousands of people unable to fight for a long as you did just to realise a relatively basic home build. Totally bonkers.

Got pretty close! I said 45k

The adding up at the end is £1000 short. Probably wishful thinking😀

Spits my Beer out !!!! £££££££ .... 😵‍💫

Absolute joke

50k

This is why your country is going down hill. Over-regulated and inevitably under-productive. Sorry.

Absolutely disgraceful being forced to spend this much to get what seems a straight forward conversion through planning. I am just starting my journey on getting planning for my barn conversion 🫣🫣