Plarium's Plan backfired in a BIG Way (FIX PLZ!)

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Plarium's Plan backfired in a BIG Way (FIX PLZ!)

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ASH: RAID Shadow Legends

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@bigpoppadrockrsl 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for having me on the channel, Ash! Was a blast chatting with you as always. Really hope that Plarium listens to our feedback and institutes real balance changes to Polymorph so arena can be fun again.

@ZacAttackManiac 5 ай бұрын

I have the solution to limiting it to 2 poly blessings per team max!

@TheAllSeeingGamer1 5 ай бұрын

Bad solution @@ZacAttackManiac

@CapnFridge420 5 ай бұрын

It seems to me that the recent "nerf" to Polymorph wasn't thought through fully, although I like what Plarium was attempting to do. Unfortunately, the trigger being once per enemy turn only further incentivizes players to put Poly on EVEN MORE champs, to get that additional 20% chance to trigger, especially since the stat redistribution frees players up to pick the most impactful blessing based solely on the blessing skill. What I'd like to see happen is for Polymorph to be inherently less powerful. This game is most fun when there are multiple ways to get around an obstacle, and you're not limited to taking on an enemy with only 1 or 2 specific champs to be successful....I. e. Ninja in Sand Devil, Geomancer in Twins, Tarichka-Siphi in Arena. I think the purpose of Poly should be disruption, similar to Wukong's kit. He makes you alter your strategies to counter his strengths, but he IS possible to reasonably counter. Poly is not. I believe Poly should be nerfed to 1 turn, with a total turn meter reduction. Sheeped champions should have a 10% reduction in stats so they are weaker as a sheep, but still themselves underneath the sheep debuff(so for example a Ramantu with 250 speed as a sheep would have 225 speed.) I think the best way to nerf Poly would be to ALLOW the debuff attempt to go through first against all enemies, and THEN resolve any Polymorph that triggers. That way, the debuff/s would still be placed, and the penalty would be a sheeped debuffer for 1 turn. That is disruptive, but not debilitating. And it would make a place for debuffers in the meta, because if your champion gets to place their debuffs before Polymorph activates, debuffers become a viable part of the meta again. It should be a trade-off. I trade having my Ramantu be out of commission for a turn in order to have placed his debuffs. You can strategize for that situation in a way that you cannot against a slew of Polymorph rolls. Those are my thoughts, but I'm admittedly only a Gold 5 arena, B3 TT, and B2 Live Arena player, so I'm not seeing this issue in a way that Plat Arena players are. I'd love to know what @bigpoppadrockrsl thinks of these ideas.

@bigpoppadrockrsl 5 ай бұрын

@@CapnFridge420I think that's actually a great solution and way better than what we have now. So I'm in favor of it!

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for joining me! It was a blast :)

@TechKnowDad 6 ай бұрын

Another minor annoyance with Polymorph is if you've almost killed a super-tanky champion and they Poly themselves, most of the time it's still a win, but drags out the fight annoyingly longer 😅

@Mr.Ultra_MAGA 6 ай бұрын

Drives me crazy

@barbararowley6077 6 ай бұрын

It’s such a pain to be essentially healing an enemy.

@Mrtheunnameable 6 ай бұрын

The worst part about Wukong

@cyanalt2738 6 ай бұрын

@@Mrtheunnameablemore of the only bad thing about Wukong.

@majo3488 6 ай бұрын

I have a no damage wukong for stone skin removal with 600 Acc and can't play classic or 3vs3 on auto with him because of that

@skibletjr9935 6 ай бұрын

If you have 300 speed and get sheeped for two turns, you basically lose 5 turns. You lose the turn where you get sheeped, plus 2 turns at half speed. Then you pop out with half health and no buffs AND the enemy team didn't have to use a single turn or ability to do this. It's completely passive. That is insane to me.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@mickeyd4038 6 ай бұрын

Plarium is their own worst enemy. Fateless can't produce their game fast enough for me.

@lordchaa1598 6 ай бұрын

Yup 👍

@peterkaufman5624 6 ай бұрын

Yeah but don't want them to rush it either, want them to do it right which I definitely think they will

@scottlee1024 6 ай бұрын

What is Fateless? Is it like Raid?

@nash5538 6 ай бұрын

@@scottlee1024it’s like an RPG game that Hellhades is making which is coming out in a few years

@Dunamis77 6 ай бұрын

Yup yup annnddd yup

@stackedfat 6 ай бұрын

I have Sun Wukong in a deflection set. Sometimes I'll steal the buffs, then deflect the polymorph back to the champ that sent it. Yesterday I stole UDK's stone skin, then sent the sheep debuff right back to him. lol

@samolofsson2401 6 ай бұрын

that is like rolling 3 d20 and hiting 16+ on all 3 dice is Rng on Rng on Rng, it's funny when it happens but you can't rely on it happening

@stackedfat 6 ай бұрын

@@samolofsson2401 no you can't. But I've had it happen several times. Better than nothing. I like watching the stuns go back.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@zendevil13 5 ай бұрын

Deflect is good for online pvp but for me who just casually plays it doesn't bother me much 😅

@antonionabais6506 6 ай бұрын

I gave up on Live Arena a long time ago, and Polymorph was a big part of that.

@RobertOrtiz1015 6 ай бұрын

Same

@symm2r 6 ай бұрын

Yeah im pretty sure that 6* polymorph is the big problem in your low gold1 bracket

@micahtaylor1397 5 ай бұрын

It also takes so much time and the ladder of rewards is too spaced out to make incentive. Another fail by Plarium on the list of ultimate failure

@jigglejigggleee8765 5 ай бұрын

@@symm2rgoofy

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@Demiuz 6 ай бұрын

Great to see you bring knowledgeable players onto your channel for colabs. I mostly watch your videos for entertainment, instead of information, now, that I am a knowledgeable end game player, but these colabs are bringing back value to your content. Keep up the good work.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@mikepowell2233 6 ай бұрын

Not a big fan of PVP in most games, but I hate the fact I am required to do it. IE. Great Hall requires it. And you are correct. Poly has killed us lower tier users.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@snypergotya 6 ай бұрын

What feels bad is when you FINALLY finish the long grid to get Ramantu and he is worthless in Arena.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@frankindabank 6 ай бұрын

I quit Raid some months ago and played WoR but now I am back with Raid. I think there is more complexity and synergy within the champs/skills. It's more fun to combine and to find out comps that work to beat content. But damn I miss the QoL features that WoR has...

@BatmanSpideyDa3rd 6 ай бұрын

I quit raid a few months ago and began playing Omniheroes. While Omniheroes is hella fun for me, it’s an idle game, so when I’m done with all the dailies, there was nothing left to do. I came back to Raid last month, but I came to realize that I only returned to Raid because of nostalgia.

@ESLMiguel 6 ай бұрын

@@BatmanSpideyDa3rd I think a lot of players have had the same experience

@freeeggs3811 6 ай бұрын

I quite raid 2 years ago and came back 1 week ago.

@symm2r 6 ай бұрын

Maybe you should quit again

@frankindabank 5 ай бұрын

@@symm2rNah the game is really fun if you ignore all the events and just do what you want and when you have time. And it's still a great feeling when you hit double leggo when you don't expect anything. I even have a FTP where I allowed myself to only use female champs except for leggos, super fun and challenging account...

@MrSimonvk 6 ай бұрын

i think the whole playerbase would be either fine or very happy if Polymorph is completely gone

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@streamrsm1009 5 ай бұрын

I love to see these collab videos. And I love the sit down and discuss. I don't even play this game any more but I still like hearing you guys talk about different things within the game. Nice video. Keep it up.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! glad you like it ;)

@bjbowman9065 6 ай бұрын

Personally, I'll be good with the suggestion to limit the sheep to only 1 being active for the team if there's more than 1 polymorph blessings on the team! Excellent suggestion!

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@11Mlight 5 ай бұрын

Lol Drocks face at 6:52, he was so happy for just a glimmer of hope.

@NIGHTFLIERR 6 ай бұрын

2023 live arena I have been playing for about 2 years and that is my favorite aspect of raid Shadow Legends is live

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@bytemevv-4616 6 ай бұрын

_I like to see them come up with some new gears or blessings to..._ _Reflect Sheep / Blessings back onto the attacker and Sheep has a 4 turn cooldown,_ _...Or introduce a new Rock, Paper, Scissors or Coin Toss Mechanic XD_

@samolofsson2401 6 ай бұрын

4 turn cd is not enough when your champ goes from 400 speed to 150 but the enemy stay at 400 they will out run the cd when you are sheeped

@rogerhuggettjr.7675 6 ай бұрын

Give Brakkus a counter that turns allies into wolves when sheep is triggered and an automatic increase meter fill and crit damage for one turn.

@bytemevv-4616 6 ай бұрын

_My comment wasn't supposed to be serious but..._ @@rogerhuggettjr.7675 _...That is genius and hilarious XD_

@roymartin3358 6 ай бұрын

NOOOOOOO… Not MORE RNG with Rock ~Paper ~Scissors!!!

@bytemevv-4616 6 ай бұрын

@@roymartin3358 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@apachechief96 6 ай бұрын

First off great video, Polymorph really needs to be addressed and . Secondly, Shu-Zhen can barely be called a counter to poly. I was lucky enough to pull her, so I know from using her that even if you use her a2 to remove the sheep debuff, it doesn't give them the instant turn or even the buffs. So they're just set back to 0 turn meter, no buffs, 50% health and die to whatever attacks them next. I try to save it for when the sheep debuff wears off and hope I get lucky enough to cut in and then give the instant turn.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@sabotage151 6 ай бұрын

I've been using this void leggo named Valkanen, seems good for dealing with polymorph. I use his A3 Death's Bargain and I sacrifice the polymorphed champion, which just returns them back to normal.

@jonnycarr6294 5 ай бұрын

Yea but then Valkanen had a chance to get polymorphed from using the deaths Baragains skill

@Dharin. 6 ай бұрын

Great collab as usual. I said in the first week poly came out, that it was broken, and was going to ruin arena. I had a simple solution then, which was before they buffed it with the "acc/irresistible" change and now buffed it again with all the stats, but it still stands today. Only 2 changes needed... 1. make it only 1 champ in your team can activate it, highest in team order. 2. Make it only have 1 proc chance from one element of a skill (which they have done), at 20% chance to proc, and have a 1 turn cooldown (reset after champ with poly takes a turn). keep everything else, as that is the risk/reward for choosing sheep over another blessing. Edited this in because I forgot it at the time... If poly fails to proc, has a 5% chance to turn you into a sheep for 1, or 2 turns. That was a very important part of the rework, and the risk/reward lol.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@speckbretzelfan 6 ай бұрын

It has been truly the year of pvp. One of the changes of all times.

@Lord_Mangoat 6 ай бұрын

I'd like to at least see Plarium take all of the champs with the ability to strip debuffs and maybe not all, but give those champs a buff to allow for them to remove polymorph.

@drudixon 6 ай бұрын

Drock!! Crazy idea. Plarium would have to allow star refunds for it to work, but what about acc required through 5 star, no acc at 6 star but the rate cuts in half? Let players choose whether they build acc for the increased chance or their chance is 10% instead of 20%?

@Fledermausmann 6 ай бұрын

So, the main (mobile) game that I played that got me into mobile gaming in the first place was (is) a game called Hearthstone. It's a card game like Magic the Gathering but a little zany and fun and flashy. It is a completely different game from Raid: Shadow Legends. Wanna know what (arguably) the best removal in the game is? You guessed it... Polymorph. Why?? Simply because it takes whatever super amazing minion you played before and just transforms it into a 1/1 sheep or in Shaman's case a 0/1 frog with taunt. So anything you had before, nope. Now you just have this useless sheep. You can imagine my surprise when Raid introduced this mechnic. Transformation type effects in a game are inherently broken. And especially so when, like Drock was saying, you can't do anything to prevent it. I'll give y'all another example, imagine if there was a mythical out there with this ability: "Transformation: at the start of your turn, transform all friendly champions into clones of this champion." Imagine that you could take this mythical and a bunch of useless 1* commons and once your turn starts, you'd get a team of said mythicals, and on turn one, you just smash everyone. And all you had to do was invest in a single champion. (Note: I could write an entire and accurate ability but I don't want you guys to have to read a short novella a la Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes). Point being, transformation effects which can't be prevented are broken.

@zedonline79 5 ай бұрын

plarium: we're announcing a brand new champion who is an arena game-changer! also plarium: turn to sheep brah!

@personwithcommonname 5 ай бұрын

One more thing on that Sheep example of Mikage's stun getting her sheeped. Her stun is on cooldown when she comes out.

@bryangirod9173 5 ай бұрын

Add some kind of Reflect set. 5% or 10% per pc of reflecting a debuff back onto the caster. If there is a significant threat of the poly being turned around on them maybe they will think twice about using it so often. Especially if you can't see the opponents' gear. Or maybe give a few champions a reflect skill.

@bront_catherder 6 ай бұрын

Good stuff Ash. Sheep not nerfing your speed, and only lasting 1 turn would fix a ton of issues. They do need to reduce the chance still as well.

@jshinobigamingdojo 6 ай бұрын

Right. Reduce turn bar to 0, and sheep for 1 turn seems somewhat manageable.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@vincenttrujillo3586 6 ай бұрын

Plarium could make another arena section! If any one likes polymorphism in battles they can select that arena. The icon can be a barn or corral. I dis like childish adoptions in adult type games!

@NC.Chris. 6 ай бұрын

They can’t not realize how op it is. Like everything in life it most likely comes down to money. I imagine high lvl arena players NEED polymorph to compete and so they buy soul stones the stat increases are a big deal but they don’t completely change the game the way poly does.

@animejay70 6 ай бұрын

i think i've been sheeped more now than before the "nerf". I'm G5 in classic arena, G1/2 3v3, and just got to G2 in Live arena. it's crazy. i just changed a couple of my higher awakened nukers to Polymorph to have a chance. I hate it.

@chasepeterson1696 6 ай бұрын

Like you guys mentioned. I just miss the days when i could dream up some cool synergy between 2 or 3 champions to counter some specific situation. It was fun back then

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@TheDarkVyers 6 ай бұрын

Polymorph is easily the worst addition to Raid... and Plarium has added a lot of bad things to Raid.

@Nutzon_yorchin 6 ай бұрын

Sheep for 1 turn and you have to kill the sheep to drop the turn meter to zero and drop hp to half or they come out of it with previous health and full TM and get to have their turn. If sheep goes on something tanky when they are almost dead can leave it to drop off naturally so they come back with the low hp they had to stop the fight being drawn out longer by rng

@lordvader6058 6 ай бұрын

Polymorph definately needs to be balanced. It is a real shame and problem for the game when a single blessing basically prevents the use of 50% of the champion pool. Solution: I think the best way would be to reduce the effects of polymorph (and maybe the chance as well). This needs to be finetuned so it still is relevant but not that disruptive and frustrating. For example make it you don't loose health.

@Shnookie3.14 6 ай бұрын

For me, arena is no different than iron twins. Its a chore that I do just for something else.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@ShaynePatton 6 ай бұрын

I just pulled a Rae earlier. Out of the blue. I was going through her kit & thinking Oh Cool! She's gonna be good for arena! Then.... oh.. wait.

@strategywizard 6 ай бұрын

Since we're talking about Polymorph here . . . . I've noticed that my Little Miss Annie can kill opposing champions that have been sheeped with her Playdate skill. How am I doing this? Does it have something to do with breaking the sheep affect with the first hit, and the somehow killing with the second hit? I'm totally confused . . . .

@CapnFridge420 6 ай бұрын

I think you're on the right track. I've had this happen a handful of times with multi-hit nukers, Ronda, Magnarr, and Gnut specifically. What I assumed was going on was that the coding assigns the first hit to the sheep, and if that first hit kills it, the second is assigned to the non-sheeped enemy(although the visual change isn't occurring to correspond with that.) If that follow-up hit then kills the non-sheeped champ, the sheep disappears and the dead champ replaces them. I also assumed they did it this way because it would be super hard to change the animations to include having the enemy transforming back from a sheep in the middle of your attack animation. Seems like a recipe for bugs and player confusion.

@NIGHTFLIERR 6 ай бұрын

I watch drock and ash all the time if I was a KZfaqr I would be a cross between these two guys it's so funny

@csb5128 6 ай бұрын

I would be 100% happy if they removed Stoneskin and Polly from the game completely. I know that's not likely to happen. We wouldn't have needed stoneskin if nukers weren't made so powerful. Even with debuffs a single person shouldn't be able to wipe out an entire team. They did it, so here we are. Stoneskin won't be removed, but it should certainly be adjusted. The amount of damage someone takes should be higher or the shield should be less. The other option is for it to not block debufs. Something should be done with it. Polly needs something done. What I don't know. Certainly some good suggestions in the video. The main one being that the enemy team can only place it once in a fight. The HP shouldn't be affected either. Being made into a sheep is punishment enough.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@andrewheitz2328 6 ай бұрын

The speed thing absolutely should go. I didnt realize it at first but once you notice it, you can't unsee it. So debilitating. I also had hoped when they said proc once per turn, I thought that ment a champ with polymoph would get one roll and than have to take a turn before it would get another roll. I think that would make it less prevalent, if say udk got a decrease defense one him, didn't sheep the enemy and would than have to take a turn before any other debuff on him could proc a sheep roll. It would help counter the slow tanky meta.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@TheAllSeeingGamer1 5 ай бұрын

My fix the to debuff is to make it so sheep debuffs don't remove buffs, so if you place all your buffs after the sheep is placed, the champ keeps the buffs when they become unsheeped.

@DamocMetalFever 6 ай бұрын

sheep should be at most one turn unprotected and it would already be disruptive enough

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@jeremyk3604 6 ай бұрын

Yes ragash is my favorite champion for arena. Yet in live arena I can't use him it's a Polly farm.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@x_SYLAR 6 ай бұрын

One of the greatest collabs has returned! Two bros just having a flowing conversation while being entertaining 😎 as opposed to two people just taking turns listing things.. We need drock X saph collab! Or even drock x saph x ash trio 👍

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@medktulu 6 ай бұрын

Been playing for 5 years. I'd honestly take the speed meta any day over the current iteration of arena. The battles were over quickly at least but now with swift parry, stoneskin, polymorph, UDK, Wu Kong and stat bloat with blessings it just takes too long as more and more people put out stall teams.

@jackparis9775 6 ай бұрын

As somebody who still plays some PvP in WoW, I was surprised when sheep in Raid didn't have any counter play. In WoW, if the sheep debuff is a hard CC, but it heals the target the longer it's reamains on the target. Furthermore, cooldowns continue to refresh, and the more a player is CCed in a match, the higher their resistance to that CC. If you keep CCing the enemy team too much, you can make them immune to your CCs. Raid needs that kind of pvp play. Every CC should be a choice with a potential double edge. Every choice should feel thoughtful, including CC.

@Fearless_Jay 5 ай бұрын

I also want to say this about Polymorph cuz it was never mentioned here, Stoneskin when released was actually somewhat balanced, you could use bomb champions to deal with them so it became a mind game of "do they have stoneskin? if they do I gotta use my bomb team there to win" in 3v3, I liked that, bomb units were really fun for that reason. Here comes polymorph, patching every weakness stoneskin has and suddenly it's an absolute NIGHTMARE to deal with stoneskin outside of just waiting till it wears off which just promote slow, boring and frankly time wasting fights. Because stoneskin has 0 weaknesses due to polymorph removing them....

@nicholasjouriles 6 ай бұрын

Honestly believe this was very well thought out. Didn't bash the game as a whole because of one thing, came with well thought out solutions to the problems presented and stayed positive to the future. Great colab!

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@BlurryInnervision 6 ай бұрын

put limits on it like brimstone - only one on an enemy team at a time, and a 4 turn cool down between it being able to be put on again.

@jonathangitter1311 6 ай бұрын

I never understood why brimstone has so many restrictions when polymorph doesn't

@samolofsson2401 6 ай бұрын

@@jonathangitter1311 becuse Brimstone makes dungeons easier for F2P and to realy get 6* on all of you champs you need to be a kraken or silly lucky

@jonathangitter1311 6 ай бұрын

@@samolofsson2401 oh. So they don't care because you have to pay for it

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@marc-oliviersabourin7519 6 ай бұрын

I find that "killing" the Sheep should give something back to the player, like if the sheep turn back to the hero, then it keep it's life where it was, but if you manage to kill the sheep, the hero lose 50% of it's remaining life (or something like that) If I understand the debuff correctly, if I nuke the sheep at the moment it just return the hero to half health, so you don't really have an incitive to kill the sheep faster

@RavenDeepwood 6 ай бұрын

I 100% agree, make it the same as Commanding presence so having multiple on team isn't a benefit (actually the opposite, having multiple is a negative) and instead of dropping the speed to 150, have a reduce speed debuff. But also introduce a damage threshold on the champion with the blessing. So that if you deal 25% damage to there max hp (so if they have 40k max hp and you do 10k) either it remove poly or reduce a turn from of the polymorph debuff per attack. Hope Plarium listens and keep up the good work Ash. Hope your doing well do. P.S. R.N Archer champ guide bro, come on lol.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@mcole2314 6 ай бұрын

Make polymorph once per round and allow the effect to take place at the end of attacking champions turn.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@Griffinmore 6 ай бұрын

I just had a thought. Why not just add more RNG to polymorph? Add a fairly high chance for the debuffed champion to break out of polymorph without having to attack. Have the roll to break out of the sheep happen on every other champion's turn. I would think that would make it less of a "I win, you lose" blessing.

@shaneandera1409 6 ай бұрын

I have been sheeped more times since the polymorph "fix" than I have since the inception of polymorph.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@ScrollsofAnubis 6 ай бұрын

Back in the day you didn't want to face a Hegemon team because of the 50% block active skill. It was too powerful. Now sheep is basically a 2 turn block active skill + block A1 + lose all stats + cannot be resisted + cannot be cleansed... it's Hegemon on steroids. 😅

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@iSugarOG 6 ай бұрын

Watching wpu and Drock together makes my day

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@Lawliet734 6 ай бұрын

The only problem with Sheep is it can bring an enemy's health from below 50% back to 50%. An enemy's health should not be higher after sheep than before sheep.

@xen0_m0rph 6 ай бұрын

This!

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@dragonrider7186 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for another video ash, this was definitely informative didnt know about polymorph and just how crazy strong it is. Still fairly new to the game been playing off and on for about a year ish. I do got to say without ur videos i was fairly decent definitely didnt bring out the full extent of champions that i did have, after watching videos i have done so much better in raid its insane getting better at recognizing good artifacts, better at picking masteries, picking better champions for different content, just all around better. So just wanted to say thank you so much for bring videos like this its really helped me so much in raid i appreciate everything you do

@ZacAttackManiac 5 ай бұрын

I have the simplest solution! Limit polymorph to a max of 2 per team!!! Like if you agree😮

@killensuckaz 6 ай бұрын

Live Arena should be more about the Champions and team comps and less about the blessings/gear. I'd like to see a 2nd league or something with just the basic gear sets (offensive, defense, spd acc) and NO blessings. They have all these cool champs with abilities specifically strong against an "enemy" faction that you will never use... A league where it's faction vs faction would also be cool. First pick chooses champs only from ONE faction (Telerian league or gaellen pact for example) and the enemy has to choose units from the opposing faction. Summoners War Sky Arena has about 4 times the general viewership that Raid does and its always people streaming Live Arena because they constantly monitor units and tweek them.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@johanh530 6 ай бұрын

Love Poppadrocks passion for the game!🔥

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@denny1122000 6 ай бұрын

I used to play LA almost daily, and now.... I'm regressing down back to gold 2. That's how bad the meta is, I'm missing some of the meta Champs and you feel it when it is used against you. I feel hopeless, I love this game but the rng with champ pulls and never getting a heads up when a guarantee champ is coming, or a BOGO, or anything that can truly benefit you as a player is really starting to wear me down. I wanted to get the void champ Wright King narses, but for me to get him, I have to spend $200 plus for 70 Voids. And I would spend it, but I don't have a heads up when this damn event will drop!

@lauranicusarcanum3065 5 ай бұрын

I personally think the half health thing of polymorph is part of its fun. I am using it to lock out a champ (e.g Taras) with Wukong and have an easier time to kill it when it comes back. In TTA G3 there are not many 6 star polymorphs, but I get your point guys. Guess it is not that easy for Plarium to fix it in a way everyone is happy with it

@jeromegodboutamotus6863 5 ай бұрын

The speed of sheep is probably the most disruptive thing! 150 speed in arena is snail slow, 2 turn sheep, means your hero is not available until enemies takes 4 turn for them, you already lost.

@hurricaneditka1339 5 ай бұрын

"It's incredibly frustrating to lose due to RNG" and maybe even worse it's an order of magnitude less satisfying to win when you know you were beat but get saved by Polymorph/RNG. It actually takes the joy out of winning. To add frustration to the game is one thing but to simultaneously take the fun out it is a dangerous combination.

@mrburritoslayerRSL 6 ай бұрын

Listening to this in the car while I drive to pick my wife up from work was nice. Ty

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in ;)

@JClark5454 5 ай бұрын

Really love the way @Bigpoppadrock laid out the full argument of why polymorph is absolutely broken and 100% toxic for raids future. Nothing has made me play raid less than the polymorph blessing. It's absolutely broken and killing pvp.

@user-fs8jz8ls9y 6 ай бұрын

even having the ability to block sheep would be huge

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@caroleg02 6 ай бұрын

Love this collab mates

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)

@droneguyty 6 ай бұрын

I used to stay in gold 1 or 2 to speed farm great hall a little faster. Now I stay down there trying to avoid polymorph in every single battle.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@PaulHathawayRetired 5 ай бұрын

Plarium will probably introduce new champs which will be able to cleanse or resist polymorph and then somehow charge an arm and a leg for them.

@medusa_007 6 ай бұрын

dropping the speed to what it is means the quick nukers can go 4 times when they are over 300 speed on a 2 times polymorph who can survive that?

@ahut757 5 ай бұрын

I think it would be cool if they massively decreased the chance of placing polymorph on anyone who isn't under stoneskin and then increased the chance against stoneskin.

@rulerozaa 6 ай бұрын

Yesterday I decided to take a break until Easter. Its surprisingly hard to stay away from this game but it had to be done.

@ScrollsofAnubis 6 ай бұрын

Early game is getting to do dungeons, mid game is faction war + DT + hydra, end game is Sintranos and arena. Once people can do most PvE, if they cannot enjoy PvP... then there is not much left in game to keep then here.

@RobertOrtiz1015 6 ай бұрын

The fact that this Poli made Ramantu useless should have given them a clear sign that its broken! A hard champ to get that i was so exited to get now its useless.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@oliverbenedek1497 6 ай бұрын

What Plarium is going to do in my opininon, is that they are going to release a champion that can counter polymorph and the put it in some kind of mega-kraken event

@nash5538 6 ай бұрын

shu-zhen is already kinda like that since she’s the only champ that can remove sheep right away

@mosespray4510 6 ай бұрын

This was my introduction to Drock, and he's great!

@aBadWizard 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, the guy knows his stuff for sure

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@Andrew_Mcconnell 5 ай бұрын

Another great colab, need more of the two of you. Great energy and the pair of you are very articulate and obviously so passionate about the game. Heres hoping plarium listen.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)

@Pawel_Wojarski 6 ай бұрын

In my opinion best change to polymorph would be to make it proc after ability. So u bring Ramantu/ Madame u strip and debuff ALL enemies and after they are debuffed u get polymorphed (even if enemy with polymorph is a leader of team) U bring Leorius and use his A3 and u deal dmg and get polymorphed for placing fear/weaken after the dmg is done. Not the way it is atm when u attempt to debuff and is instantly sheeped.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@preathorlynkx6833 5 ай бұрын

btw. you can somewhat "cleanse" sheep with Valkanen (he was a guaranteed champ) by sacrificing sheep. ;-)

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@RPSchonherr 6 ай бұрын

The thing about polymorph is if you keep doing it to 1 champ you will never kill him. Everytime they unsheep they are back to 1/2 health. I turn it off on Wukong and avoid it when I can. The only time I use it is on a full health nuker or defense champ like UDK or the healer--- only when they are full health. If they are defense with low hp and you use it or it procs then they are back to 1/2 health again and you have to start over again to get them back to low health.

@swamb9417 5 ай бұрын

You cant use it. It happens with rng...

@RPSchonherr 5 ай бұрын

@@swamb9417 On Wukong, his A2 sheeps. That is what I was referring to there

@tootru88 6 ай бұрын

They'll never do anything about it because it's linked directly to the Cash Cow of selling awakening shards. Its a pay to win thing.

@mortis106 6 ай бұрын

You + Drock = Great content.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)

@jenga2017 6 ай бұрын

An even better fix is to make polymorph work like it does when sun wukong places it. He's for 1 turn, the speed doesn't drop to 0, and it's one check.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@Eurodancer89 6 ай бұрын

They should limit only one champ with polymorph into arena. That would solve the issue.

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@djbadhands 6 ай бұрын

I feel like the worst part of Polynorph isn't losing all our buffs when we become a sheep, but lossing any buffs we acquire WHILE we are a sheep, so we''re COMPLETELY vulnerable when we change back. Why does nobody talk about that or suggest Plarium at least let us keep the buffs we acquire while we're a sheep, or keep the buffs we have when we become a sheep.

@petergonzalez1719 6 ай бұрын

I work full-time and I have a lady. If RSL did the actual lists that people are asking for then they would be multi-console. However, I play from my phone. I don't have time for that. I've heard one creator say "the biggest winner is the biggest loser."

@skorpion7132 6 ай бұрын

They should just remove Polumotph and introduce another blessing like, as example, Posion cloud (no not the Hydra thing): It's a buff for all allies and doubles the potency of all posion debuffs being casted by any ally under the effect of posion cloud (meaning 2,5% becomes 5% and 5% will become a whopping 10%!) AND it activates 1 turn of posions instantly

@mikewood85 5 ай бұрын

Take away the speed penalty, and when you are finally "UNSHEEPED" gains at least a 35% turn meter...

@mikewood85 5 ай бұрын

Or the solution is going to be with the next batch of blessings

@lennysharlet8804 6 ай бұрын

Hear me out: 7 day log in Skin walker: Border Collie who cleanses Sheep

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

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@notinusesoon4975 5 ай бұрын

i could be wrong, everytime i kill a 'sheep' they pop back out with 50% hp, so there is no point in killing a poly'd unit

@cliftonholmes5208 6 ай бұрын

Abilities to take out of Raid:#1 polymorph.#2 Stoneskin #3"true" fear.Champions that needs a nerf UDK,Taras & Marichka.

@leagaillard755 5 ай бұрын

It also doesn't even really help the smaller players get an advantage because like you'll have a tanky, stronger champion almost dead and bam, it gets sheeped and it's back to half health and now the fight is either drawn out or you lose your chance to win. It's not exactly the most common reason to lose (live) arena fights, but i don't think a blessing is fun when you can't wait to have the gems to get it off your champs.

@stimp5772 6 ай бұрын

Plarium continues to dig their hole deeper but those spending continue to throw them a rope. Eventually they will dig too deep to come out though

@BP-zd6ub 6 ай бұрын

Problem with a lot of your ideas is they made wukong with a sheep ability that for early game players, they can turn pesky insane siphis or duchess into a sheep. Resist an survivability are now a bigger go to in arena also because sheep. Its also opening players up to be required to have a team that doesn't use debuffs or tm control to avoid it. It's plenty balanced in my opinion

@justina2353 6 ай бұрын

100% agree they need to change it further, it’s to the point in sick of hearing about it lol

@Angel-lg3xe 5 ай бұрын

100% to agree, it needs to be fixed

@ASH-RAID 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ;)

@agsk6295 6 ай бұрын

Plarium solution will be: hey, here are new blessings added to the game, and one of them will give a chance to be imune to polymorph, unless is 6* then is guaranteed imunity to polymorph