Plastering/skimming using Refina tools - one coat sponge with Multi-Finish explained step by step

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This video explains step by step how to plaster or skim a painted surface with Gypsum Multi-Finish using the one coat sponge method and Refina tools. This video goes into more detail than the previous video. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

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@tough2lie382
@tough2lie382 3 жыл бұрын
It's all well and good getting the perfect finnish. The reality of plastering is to cover large areas to a good/high standard. Perfectionist rarely make money. I'm plastering thirty years,. I'm not against all these new systems like spatula s plaziflex superflex etc but don't get too caught up in them, I think sometimes they can slow you down.
@dawidczerniak5177
@dawidczerniak5177 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a closer look at it
@onpointplastering
@onpointplastering 5 жыл бұрын
1 trowel for all my plasterwork over the past 15 years or so but been giving the sponge float and spats a try just to break up the same old same old and make my plastering days different I see nothing wrong with trying new methods
@andrewzolotar9358
@andrewzolotar9358 2 жыл бұрын
I love your close up so you van actually see how it should look
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 7 жыл бұрын
used my new 18inch sponge today..brilliant. i usually use a plazziflex for getting the lines out but used the spat today on a float and set..so easy and quick 👍
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Dean Arnold 👍🏻
@1442GlennLane
@1442GlennLane 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Helps a DIY'er like me a lot.
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@zarron221
@zarron221 3 жыл бұрын
I need to show you guys how to make a bucket scoop, out of a 5 gallon bucket... Great job guys Shalom
@MrDonniebizzle87
@MrDonniebizzle87 3 жыл бұрын
How?lol
@cygnus108
@cygnus108 7 жыл бұрын
great video guys....thanks
@samuelbarnes2216
@samuelbarnes2216 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice Friday Darren! Have adjusted my timings slightly this morning on a big ceiling and looks lovely! Flat and matt... What more can you ask for?!!
@michaelburns9372
@michaelburns9372 7 жыл бұрын
worked out well cheers
@blitzermanonline
@blitzermanonline 7 жыл бұрын
Looks good
@jimjimskimmer1935
@jimjimskimmer1935 5 жыл бұрын
Really good job. I plaster EXACTLY the same way. Sponging is alot better.
@mrbuster7255
@mrbuster7255 5 жыл бұрын
Go on the boys!
@superseven220
@superseven220 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@marilynbennett4991
@marilynbennett4991 7 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a go tomorrow
@iiparachuteregiment8800
@iiparachuteregiment8800 3 жыл бұрын
This is the video I'm been looking for to learn... I needed to know what stage to do each stuff... also if you had to do a 2nd coat, after how long do you have to wait to put the 2nd coat on the 1st??? Is it OK to use the same batch for 2nd coat?
@damprotek
@damprotek 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried some of the spatulas I don't even bother with my trowel only for the edges and the fiddly bits but you could run plastic spatula over it at the end for a nice polish not too much though decorate or be on your back
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 6 жыл бұрын
Afternoon..are you using much pressure when you're flattening with the spat? Cheers
@paulmichaeljarvis6863
@paulmichaeljarvis6863 3 жыл бұрын
I think people should master their job before putting out tutorials
@ciaranamhain
@ciaranamhain 5 жыл бұрын
Tidy job.
@johnboyld3872
@johnboyld3872 5 жыл бұрын
Final trowel and you still have alot of glut on your trowel🤣🤣
@markchambers9415
@markchambers9415 4 жыл бұрын
dont need hardly any water when trowelling up.just clean tools that are lubricated with wet brush.look at the mess thats being made.
@damprotek
@damprotek 3 жыл бұрын
If it's good enough to paint it's good enough to charge
@paulhearse8751
@paulhearse8751 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure British gypsum recommend board finish over better contact as it's a low suction background or have I got that wrong?
@eduardfaur6281
@eduardfaur6281 4 жыл бұрын
board finish use for boards / plasterboard only
@thomasculshaw8843
@thomasculshaw8843 7 жыл бұрын
I saw some blokes do this on a site i was on and the finish was so sexy. super flat, super smooth. best i've seen
@hoolieye7131
@hoolieye7131 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Culshaw sexy. Don't be saying that about men plastering that's gay that mate.
@eduardfaur6281
@eduardfaur6281 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoolieye7131 nothing wrong with gay
@michaelburns9372
@michaelburns9372 7 жыл бұрын
tried your method chaps put a good coat on then quick speedskim then did what you said
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Burns how did it go?
@paulnaylor6035
@paulnaylor6035 2 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong I've changed recently to using speed skim ox rules and 2 x coats always sponging after the second coat flatten with speed skim and using flexi trowels and when all said and done put a level on it when finished and that's what they aren't showing you ,you would be shocked high and lows all over and internals like skate ramps it isn't the be all and end all if you want it flat and I mean flat then you have to go back to basics because sponging and spats don't get it flat check your work at the end and you will see I'm right and rwo guys on this wall 18 sqm ?? Enough said
@ijl66
@ijl66 7 жыл бұрын
Nice finish. But i noticed you'd taped the edges up. Will this not ruin the corners once you remove the tape? Especially has the skim would have dried.
@darrenmookien5390
@darrenmookien5390 5 жыл бұрын
`Masking tape was set 3mm away from the edge to allow for plaster depth.
@stephbhoy1
@stephbhoy1 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it wasn’t u just run a Stanley blade up it and it’s fine
@biopaq
@biopaq 3 жыл бұрын
May I know how long the spatula ?
@marilynbennett4991
@marilynbennett4991 7 жыл бұрын
so it's quicker will give it a go tomorrow
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Remember to make sure you get the plaster on at a minimum thickness of 3mm. it takes some practise to get it on to that thickness first time. So my advise would be to put your normal first coat on and then go over straight away with a second coat, that should give you the 3mm. Then slowly you will get used to putting it on thickness required.
@oldboy5001
@oldboy5001 5 жыл бұрын
This is great if you're doing your own labouring and you're no spring chicken any more :)
@antoinemclaurin4916
@antoinemclaurin4916 5 жыл бұрын
Hello im a white finsh plasterer..ive never done this system you're doing ..its cool. How can i get refina trowels in the 🇺🇸?
@spencer1384
@spencer1384 4 жыл бұрын
Antoine Mclaurin Amazon
@eduardfaur6281
@eduardfaur6281 4 жыл бұрын
The tools would be usless for you buddy u need the Multi Finish plaster to be able to do this you cannot do it with the plaster that u sand in US its very different
@loadofstuff10
@loadofstuff10 6 жыл бұрын
9 x 600mm full ceiling tiles and 2x 300mm cuts = 6m x a typical 2.4 m wall height gives you a14.4m2 area, would it be better for one guy to do this job on his own and the other guy do another.? Even done properly with two coats ,closed in and three trowels with clearing and packing up is only about 3/ 3 and a half hours for one man.
@fef777777
@fef777777 5 жыл бұрын
working alone sucks mate 2 people work goes a lot better even if it a smaller job
@onpointplastering
@onpointplastering 5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking that myself thats not an 18m2 wall lol
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 5 жыл бұрын
You sad man
@HSilver341
@HSilver341 7 жыл бұрын
R u knocking time off your sets say compared to rwf 0067 way how long does a typical set last
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
This system only saves about 15-20 minutes per hit. Not a major time saver. The main benefit of this system is its a lot easier on the body, less stress on joints etc..
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Each hit takes about 2 and half hours. This of course dependant on weather temperature etc..
@jcdenton23
@jcdenton23 7 жыл бұрын
which trowel did you use for the initial laying on?
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 6 жыл бұрын
Here we used a refina trowel, standard 16/14 inch stainless steel trowel. It doesn't matter which trowel you choose to lay on with
@darrenmookien5390
@darrenmookien5390 5 жыл бұрын
Any trowel is ok for laying on. I used here the refina finitex trowel
@mrv5801
@mrv5801 5 жыл бұрын
which pregrit did u apply on the wall before skimming it??? did u use any PVA???
@chrisyardley6380
@chrisyardley6380 4 жыл бұрын
They're plasterer's, as if they would get that part wrong
@eduardfaur6281
@eduardfaur6281 4 жыл бұрын
no need for pva with the green or blue grit
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 7 жыл бұрын
hey..do you fill tapes out on plasterboard first using this method. cheers
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
You can do. Will definitely help until you get more used to this technique
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 6 жыл бұрын
sometimes.. but not necessary if you work the plaster when you are pulling with the spatula. if less experienced plaster then yes fill the tapered boards first
@israeladesanya4596
@israeladesanya4596 4 ай бұрын
What are all those trowels for?
@martijneijk6208
@martijneijk6208 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of gypsum do you use? In holland we use white gypsum but this looks like klay
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 6 жыл бұрын
Its thistle multi finish were using in the video
@ashyclaret
@ashyclaret 5 жыл бұрын
British.
@nickmakris2971
@nickmakris2971 7 жыл бұрын
You guys using the 40 inch plastic refina rule to straighten or is it steel super flex rule
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Makris I use a 40 inch plastic refina called a plazi flex spatula. It's better than the steel as it holds its shape longer than the steel ones as the steel spatulas tend to warp after time. Also the plastic doesn't draw the water to the surface as much. It's also cheaper than the steel spats..
@nickmakris2971
@nickmakris2971 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent. The plastic spat your using its a bit stiffer and the blade is a bit thicker therefore holding its shape and for better flattening? (.4mm according to Beroxpert) They also make a thicker metal blade at .4mm as the super flex spat is .25mm, have ya used the .4mm in the steel.
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 6 жыл бұрын
40 inch plastic retina rule. Its cheaper and keeps its shape a lot longer than the metal edge
@davidwakely1332
@davidwakely1332 2 жыл бұрын
I always put 2 coats on never ever put a single coat on
@circletreeservices8749
@circletreeservices8749 5 жыл бұрын
Do you PVA the wall first?
@Lemon-squeezer
@Lemon-squeezer 5 жыл бұрын
It was already done with thistle bond it that's why the wall was green before they skimmed it
@jimjimskimmer1935
@jimjimskimmer1935 3 жыл бұрын
If thas 18M2 im the King of England. 12m2 at best. Also 2 guys on one wall? Come on. Second trowel looks a bit wet for me but hey. Nice job.
@jaredakten4939
@jaredakten4939 5 жыл бұрын
All I got to say is make sure you put it on nice and thick otherwise you ain't gonna get a good finish.
@jimjimskimmer1935
@jimjimskimmer1935 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna give my 2 cents here. There's alot of criticism about this walk and I could do it better etc etc. But here's the truth of the matter. Ok the wall is DEFINITLEY not 18m2, and yes normally one guy would do it on his own, but if you really understand plastering, how it sets up, timings etc etc, you can get away (wrong word here) plaster in one coat. I worked in the states a few years ago, and they plaster the same way or, first coat, double back with the same batch and add a thin second coat and proceed as necessary. This whole argument of first coat, wait till firms up, flatten in then second coat blah blah blah, is how they teach you in college. In the REAL world where you need to produce VOLUME you'd never make any money. Remember here they also never did a dry trowel towards the end where that flattens even more, so I see nothing wrong here. Good job. Plastering is changing, gotta move with the times. The whole point of out trade is to find that perfect compromise between speed and productivity, with the least effort. Great job.
@mickjames8560
@mickjames8560 7 жыл бұрын
Like to see this shit work banging a 50m gauge on over skim 😂
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 6 жыл бұрын
A pain breaking in a new sponge..can get messy!!
@deanarnold10
@deanarnold10 7 жыл бұрын
also...do you find it flattens better with a bigger sponge or is that just for speed
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Yes i prefer the 18 inch sponge, like you said it flattens a wider area, and helps with speed as a result..
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 6 жыл бұрын
doesn't really matter which sponge, but we use the bigger one here as it is quicker when theres a lot to do
@michaelburns9372
@michaelburns9372 7 жыл бұрын
how's that method work out for one man doing a 40 square metre gauge I found one coating can be a problem on bigger gauges.
@london-plasterercom
@london-plasterercom 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Burns once you get used to the system I find you can actually cover more square meters than traditional two coat. U can lay on the first 20m2 and quickly flatten with the spat, then lay on the second 20m2.. my limit was 50m2 in one hit. But these were large plasterboard walls which helped..
@jimjimskimmer1935
@jimjimskimmer1935 5 жыл бұрын
@@london-plasterercomGREAT WORK LADS.
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 5 жыл бұрын
This new trend for one coating and sponge floats! I swear a good plasterer using two coats is as quick or quicker with less working of the material. And the examples shown are always of flat walls, most skimming involves uneven backgrounds and adding more plaster around beads and linings. Traditional Irish plasterers could out perform anyone with any modern technique. Thanks.
@steved6472
@steved6472 5 жыл бұрын
You had to fuck up a perfectly good point with the Irish plasterers bollocks .
@ashyclaret
@ashyclaret 5 жыл бұрын
Less tools to clean also which they never mention.
@michaelcollins2399
@michaelcollins2399 4 жыл бұрын
I agree so many comments on how to skim almost every wall , set is different whatever works and is most efficient then do always 2 coats tho 😂
@flyerh
@flyerh 3 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of faffing just to avoid mixing and applying a traditional second coat where the whole job can be done with one trowel.
@danielpriest5390
@danielpriest5390 7 жыл бұрын
Still not a fan of the sponge method - also a lot of expensive tools for a simple wall imo
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel is this modern trend because new spreads just don't have the skills anymore?
@fef777777
@fef777777 5 жыл бұрын
@@marks-0-0 you are very wrong sir its the costumer that does not want to pay a good price that has pushed this method on and lets be honest plastering is the hardest trade out there . I have been against this method for 11 years and have broken my back doing it the right way and for peanuts thinking my reputation will one day pay more , it was all bulshit . I have recently started this method and it saves a lot of time even thou i do it with 2 coats 1 after the other until i get the hang of it .
@damprotek
@damprotek 4 жыл бұрын
@@fef777777 you're right I've been plastering the same way for donkey's years and these new tools make it so much easier I ran a spatula of my work after two coats trowel it up with my flexi and I get a perfect finish now I'm starting to sponge float and it comes out even better with less effort
@laidbackLUKEY
@laidbackLUKEY 3 жыл бұрын
Expensive tools 😂 not exactly
@robertcarroll5965
@robertcarroll5965 5 жыл бұрын
I skim that wall quicker in slow motion on my own ffs
@rockyfosgate
@rockyfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Carroll and with two coats probably... 😂
@leewalsh3945
@leewalsh3945 2 жыл бұрын
Two guys on a wall 😂😂
@janstronach7132
@janstronach7132 4 жыл бұрын
Never one cost always two
@rockyfosgate
@rockyfosgate 4 жыл бұрын
Can get you into a whole lot of trouble if you don’t know exactly what u r doing.
@chefstarr33
@chefstarr33 6 жыл бұрын
Only one problem , this system of working is for white gypsum , was plastering this way 20 years ago in Germany ! Doesn't work with British gypsum.
@MrFlynnytwo
@MrFlynnytwo 5 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean the one coat stuff I was using thirty five years ago on a job near Ipswich. we used sponge floats and feather edges to do the same thing.
@Matt-fh3ki
@Matt-fh3ki 5 жыл бұрын
All those flexi trowels and speed skims... This will look awful in a room with lots of natural light.
@eduardfaur6281
@eduardfaur6281 4 жыл бұрын
in a room with lots of natural light and shining at a 45 degree angle on a wall or ceiling any wall looks shit no mater how good you think you done it
@user-qe6jd6jl3t
@user-qe6jd6jl3t 7 жыл бұрын
ты
@robertcarroll5965
@robertcarroll5965 5 жыл бұрын
My little sister can skim she 12
@Ireland-bc2gx
@Ireland-bc2gx 5 жыл бұрын
That spongeing is a waste of time,just one more step u dont need to do,who the @#$ came up with that
@CompetitiveEllisy
@CompetitiveEllisy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a consistent method for a nice finish. Experienced plasterers don’t really need it unless there walls going off on them.
@harryedwards9391
@harryedwards9391 3 жыл бұрын
No you don’t have to sponge float imo but the sponge float is flat the trowel isn’t Ive been plastering since 1979 We used to float our 1 st coat of finish with plastic floats for 1 st class work It made a huge difference These new tools have really made the job easier I’ve been using speedskims since they came out , they’ve made a massive difference So much faster and flatter The plastic trowels flexible trowels all work great but you find yourself cleaning tools much more frequently and you carry a lot more kit All good though !!!!
@barrydooley2484
@barrydooley2484 2 жыл бұрын
Step 7- shave arms !
@allanhamilton6618
@allanhamilton6618 3 жыл бұрын
They look like bodgers to me
@kukullen_8546
@kukullen_8546 5 жыл бұрын
That finish is terrible....definitely needs another rub
@eliotcurtis2155
@eliotcurtis2155 3 жыл бұрын
What a complete waste of time , it’s like doing the job twice! 30 years plastering and never used a sponge and what the hell is the point of spaying water on it when you want it to go off . Just get it right first time , time it right and you should only have to wet the trowel once or twice.
@allsummerbinlarjin6036
@allsummerbinlarjin6036 5 жыл бұрын
No no no no....all that water and sponge marks. Sorry but just stick another coat on it fellas. Your saving time with the spatch anyway. You cant beat 2 coating. You can see the hollows when your flatening. Which you shouldnt get with the 2 coats if your any good. I can see you are good spreads but your cheating the customers of quality for me to save 20 mins and another bag or two of multi. Still more work for me to rectify eh....best wishes
@scottjameseaton5503
@scottjameseaton5503 4 жыл бұрын
One coat.the only tools you didn't show is the hoarse you road in on. Come on lads .one coat is for cowboys especially on a re-skim.
@jasonbrockleworth3485
@jasonbrockleworth3485 5 жыл бұрын
Shit finish
@jamesdawson7524
@jamesdawson7524 5 жыл бұрын
Rough af bucket is stinking so is the finish
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