Some people have some really nice setups!

I saw it on KZfaq too. There's a couple there that do that.

@@samuelgamato971 There is a youtube video of one down there? They are probably common. I saw one bout 8 years ago in a village down the coast from Bluefields while exploring a bit till the next boat going to the Corn Islands.

@@torvusjunction do you have a Schematic to make it easy to understand how to setup? Please and thanks!

Ah, good times fishing for white lobster...

I was just gonna say that 😆

You might be a rocket scientist guy!

No more beer for you, Cliff Claven!

Literaly what is on everyone’s mind when they watch this video. You speak for all of us my friend

amen

Lol that what i said too! Moonshine is better fuel too! Lol

That would be great actually, I also watch his channel.

@@torvusjunction you should totally reach out to him.

Looks like pyrolysis. Essentially: using heat to break large molecules into smaller ones. The smallest ones evaporate the easiest so they come out of the end of the tube as a gas.

100 per cent

@@torvusjunction I would like to see you use tree bark to make gas that can be used in a lawn mower or whatever. This experiment was so cool too. In the back recesses of my mind I knew that oil was used to make plastic but I honestly had no clue that it could be turned back into useful fuel. That is too cool. (I had to go back and edit this comment since my phone seems to like making me sound like a three year old when I talk... or should I say type. LOL too funny :) )

Thanx for the tip buddy, Ill try that next time.

How many fuel spend it? Vs earn

I'm thinking that's definitely a missing link good call on the H²0. Thinking maybe add the water to the stage One or 2 and run that through for a cleaner batch?

Thanks for the positive comments! That H2O was hard won data, might even be corporate process secret.!

@@dallasschneider4564 I add xylene to the plastic and skip the fire. ♨️

Congrats for pointing out the video?....

​@@danielcrawlson1174 No, for actually using thermal depolymerization in the video. It's how wood gasification works, and slightly how petrol refinery works. Petrol refining, and other synthetic fuels refining, looks and functions a lot more like a reflus still. The channel "Tech Ingredients" has a video named "Distilling ALCOHOL With Our New Reflux Still!", in which it explains how a reflux still works, and people in the comment section say they work or worked in petrol refining and the process is the same, but the materials of the petrol refineries are different because they use strong acids to kill bacteria, fungi, and microorganisms.

I feel like if he is doing the process he probably has a good understanding of it that would be like walking up to someone building a garage and saying congratulations you are constructing they use similar practices to build houses you should research it

Er not really Bio diesel is made from used cooking oils filtered or were we you referring to rape seed oil derived Fuels ?

@@darrenjones3681 bio diesel is made from any biological source... you know? Bio.

Show us the Results ! Then !

You meant to write tons in capital letters, because this method is really inefficient.

Atleast the pine-cones are kind of free energy.

@@torvusjunction I once sold a single very large pinecone for $60. One huge one went for $100. So they aren't even always free. But your point is well taken.

@@drunkbuzzard3237 Here in South Africa there isn't really a market for selling pinecones 😂

When the gas stations no longer have fuel and your money is worthless, this method of creating energy for running farm equipment and other such vehicles is going to be extremely well worth the input.

Soon, I am currently planning and building a upgraded "still"

Yes please share them, I love to hear other ideas and improvements. I have so many ideas with the plastic "Distiller" haha

@@torvusjunction I use a mason jar filled with cotton balls or wood chips to catch thicker materials that made it over, other than that I have the exact same setup as you but I’m trying to make it on a bigger scale maybe with a steel drum as a reaction vessel and the left over carbon I would bury underground to have a carbon negative system. I’m also trying to find a way to pressurize and store the syngas in some tank. This really is the best way to deal with waste cool to see other plastic distiller enthusiasts out there 😂

@@stepsister5566 takes more energy to heat the plastic than you are gathering.. Cool idea tho.

What do you mean?

People think gasification and pyrolysis is "burning plastic" but it is not. It is decomposing the plastic into the oil and natural gas it was made of

Or what about nitrogen? Nitrogen is more readily available and has the additional benefit of being chemically inert.

Yes oxygen should be purged.

@@MACROPARTICLE CO2 is much denser than air and pure N2. so the CO2 will flow to the bottom of the container, expelling the air upwards and out of the vessel as it fills.

What about pulling a vacuum on the vessel before heating? Assuming you have a vessel that can withstand a vacuum of course.

@@user-fs3dg1po2z unnecessary complication. CO2 is much easier to handle than a vacuum. and it is impossible to create a complete vacuum by pumping out air. whereas, providing the plastic in the reactor has no air traps, CO2 can completely eliminate the oxygen.

A shit load of plastic indeed hahahahaha

@@torvusjunction I'm only playing, I actually really liked it. I think things like this are cool.

Don't forget the load of work...

Selling the HDPE to recyclers is probably the better option, but knowing you can make something with it, such as fuel for what ever is a pretty cool thing.

@@torvusjunction is it me or is what you did dangerous? When that hose failed and all those fumes escaped was that good for the planet and the living things on it? Is burning that stuff safe or does it burn clean? I can't imagine that what you did is environmentally friendly but hey maybe it is. I know very little.

@@torvusjunction Don't quote me on this but when a hade a class in polymers my teacher said that burning polyethylene can actually be cleaner burning than wood. This is supposedly because it is only composed of a single chain of hydrocarbons, which makes it not produce a lot of aromatics or other nasty stuff like halogen compounds. But when burned it probably produces som sot, hydrocarbons and some carbon monoxide but these are easily oxidized. As they are easily oxidized they will probably not cause a lot of harm in the long-run as long as you don't continually burn a lot more of polyethylene. Just to be clear HDPE is a typ of polyethylene.

@@leahcim38 I didn't strike at anyone. I don't do activism. I saw something that didn't look right and as I expected wasn't right (I say that based on the reply I got from this youtuber) so I replied. Break off a twig when it's young and it won't grow to be a beam in someones home.

@@elprimo1 Here's an alternative way to consider this. The plastic isn't some mystic poison from a different universe, it's oil that came out of the ground. The oil was processed to create plastic. Now the plastic is being processed to create different gases and oils, same stuff that already existed. Rain lands on a mountain, gravity pulls it downward. It forms with other rain in the low spots, creates a trickle then a stream. Over time the grand canyon is formed. Oh my terrible, erosion and destruction. Point being, we create nothing and destroy nothing, we change it from one form to another and the cycle eventually repeats. A tree that takes in CO2 and releases oxygen thought it's life, dies and decays, releasing the same amount of methane and CO2 as it absorbed while using oxygen in the process. Whether this plastic is burned, buried or digested, it returns in different forms all beneficial and all harmful, really does depend on perspective. What truly isn't environmentally friendly is life and the environment. An environment isn't simply what is conducive or convenient, desired or comfortable for humans. Everywhere has an environment, many of them are not compatible with human survival. Is that bad? Did we cause that? Even deep water is not a good environment for humans but we have lots of it, should we start draining and filling? Probably not Nature has a way of balancing and things always work out as the are supposed to. Unfortunately what we suppose to be best isn't always aligned with what will happen. These same processes are done on large scale, the electronic device you used to comment created is more polluting to the environment than a guy experimenting with a gallon can in his backyard. Seems pretty ridiculous to worry about the environmental impacts of this while using electricity produced in far more harmful ways to power a device that can only exist by doing far more drastic damage to what you pretend to be important. I say pretend because it's impossible to follow that logic to any conclusion that doesn't make the entire comment either hypocritical or ridiculous. Look at many of our forest, if there is not a beetle or bug, some bacteria or fungi killing the trees, there are natural wildfires, floods, storms, erosion etc. When speaking of environmental concerns what people are really speaking about is sustaining human life and population density. The earth and the environment will be fine with or without us. Things change. One day there is a mile of ice and snow over the ground the next it's warm and sunny with fertile fields, abundant forest and clean fresh water. This is the nature of humanity, to attempt to tame natural and feel in control of destiny. One random rock hurtling through space will make more of an impact than humans have made in recorded history. I say lighten up and enjoy the ride. But as long as you want to enjoy the comforts and conveniences of life as you know it, don't pretend you're worried about the environment or some backyard experiments. Btw, there's a couple on a Caribbean island that collects plastics from the ocean and use a very similar but larger scale process to create fuel and organic fertilizer. The produce their own power for irrigation and raise food where otherwise they wouldn't be able to. Rather they kill the environment that way or just leave the plastics in the ocean? Just some thoughts

Perfect boredom killer.

@@torvusjunction it certainly is. I think whomever cracks the process efficiently enough to get a decent ROI will make mega bucks.

@@moisty254 There are already videos on it, but they use ceramic containers to prevent as much energy loss as possible. This video has too much energy lost to give a good ROI.

@@drproton85 yeah that and further refinement

That would be cool!

No... No you wouldn't. This plastic is made from distillate lower down the tower then gas or diesel. More pollution when it's burned. It's a cool demonstration but if we all did this the pollution would be horrible.

@@gunrunner5095 you can still crack those distillates

I chose the paint can exactly for the purpose of not being able to build up too much pressure. I would rather have it blow at low pressure, than high. I built my new furnace so the paint can is not exposed, so if it pops it is contained, and I can just extinguish the fire.

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@Igor Schreiber If the condenser pipe blocks with wax which you get about half way through the process, the pressure builds up and with only say 5 psi you could have around 320 pounds trying to push out the lid. I made a bolt on lid and have had the 3/8" condenser pipe block several times when the condenser is cooling to a low temperature.

@@Henry-zm9qg I was in quite a bad way. The plastic oil was blown everywhere and I used a large fire extinguisher to get the fires out.

Just about to say a similar thing or even re distill it

Yes its not efficient, but when shit hits the fan, and no gasoline left at the filling stations you know how to make your own...

Hahahaha imagine that!

Yeah but some people live places where brush is a nuisance

@Sam Fisher you can infact run a car on pine cones and wood. Gasification of wood is done almost the exact same way.

U 100% can run a small engine on a Burning wood gassifier

Just fyi Co2 will not work. It will brake down and cause the same problem. Argon or most inert gas should work

Threw? Brake? Come on

I've seen this done before, using all sorts of plastic, the guy i watched filled up his baking container to the top and squashed out as much air as he could before sealing it, and starting the combustion process, his was connected similar, but with larger pots, the residue after the burn was just soot, this diesel he creates from this process fuels his generator for his electricity ;)

@@gregs8672 nitrogen should be easier to get

@@samsawesomeminecraft nitrogen my create a similar issues with creating wax. NOx?

Hahaha Spot on!

Possibly get a shredder, shred the pine cones, press the shredded pine cones into a brick like mold and voila!

@@torvusjunction I'm sure you could use needles or just tap the tree and collect pitch

Finally someone gets it!

@@juandiego9164 you could heat it with a volcano...

You could refine it, using radioactive material..

Finns used carbon monoxide to power cars during ww2 fuel shortages

Gassification is making a slow resurgence in the prepper community, I power my Toyota pickup with a raw wood gassifier

@@BigBeavrSlayer That's Awesome!

@@offshoreman71 can check out my chanel if you like, just posted a video yesterday running my truck

Always! Thank you buddy!

Check out the Hookway Retort. Uses some external fuel but it's minimized by a few means. This is also pyrolysis so some design elements from an efficient charcoal kiln should easily be able to be incorporated. Bit different use of the gasses since you want to collect and condense them in this case but some elements of his design can probably be used.

Aha the genuine mr fusion

It make absolutely no difference if you burn the plastic in the first place, or destill it with the help of huge amounts of energy into a liquid and then burn it. Except that the latter blows more CO2 into the atmosphere due to the additional fuel for the destillery. Nonsense! NOT burning that stuff at all must be our goal. Transforming old plastic into new plastic with the help of renewable energy sources. But for gods sake don't burn that stuff!

Not true. I’ve done the same thing and powered it from a heating mantle running on solar power.

In my eyes its a total loss.

I like the famous physicist Richard Feynman’s idea all energy is really just stored sun. When you burn fuel like wood and it makes light it is just releasing stored sunlight because the tree was made from sunlight driving a process to split the oxygen atom of co2 to storing the carbon atom and throwing away the oxygen. When wood burns the oxygen atom meets again in the oxidative process recombining with the carbon to make co2 and CO amd the sunlight is released that was stored. If you think about that transfer from the sun to other forms, there is certainly is energy loss between mediums. The only solution to get energy is a lot of sun and waiting time. XD

@@torvusjunction Somehow the process densifies energy and from wood crap you make liquid fuel that has other usages, so it might not be a total loss. When the cracking process is controlled, concentred solar energy can be used, and stored as fuels from summer to winter.

When I have a finalized version of my setup I will go into details such as efficiency.

@@torvusjunction Great vid. Is there an additive that prevents the fuel returning to a solid/waxy state. I'm assuming the industry uses one. Subscribed👍

@@torvusjunction I was curious about the waxed products whether the liquid was as flammable as before after wax separation ?

It's been tested many times and never found to output more energy than it takes to pyrolize the plastic

@@austin503 But the product is an energy source useful in different ways.

to many 😂 in theory sound good but in reality

Thank you! I will take the suggestion into consideration.

You have any go to videos for how gasification works from the ground up? Just cant seem to wrap my head around it.

Hahahaha it is as effective as it looks...

Well, if your goal is to make an engine running, stuffing pinecones in the gas tank won't do much...

@@aleisterlavey9716 If the gas tank was a wood gasifier, pinecones would work...

@@Scaliadcould also compress all the gas, save it for later and then also use the liquid products.

@@Scaliad yes pinecones for fuel does work buy they burn up rather quickly releasing there energy and leaving the wood hopper empty in need of refueling. Wood is much more energy dense depending on hardwood or soft wood. I run soft Doug fir in my gassifier and it's a good fuel but does not run as long as on hardwood like oak

Depends on local resources and economy.

Really going to look at my comment and not answer back unless you care about the people that are watching your episodes and trying to interact with you trying to get involved more in your little KZfaq Community here to grow your Channel I ain't feeling like that

Oh yes, I plan to distill the product to see what I end up with.

I have done the process of burning the plastics and get the dirty smelly oil but I'm confused on how to distill,please advise

You are welcome!

It melts and the burns like candle wax.

@@torvusjunction I believe it has wax in it. First jar was diesel petrol and wax mix. Second jar was petrol with a little diesel and wax. You can refine the first jar again with your next batch of plastic.

@@torvusjunction Scaled up, I wonder if this could become self-sustaining? Providing enough energy in the most volatile gaseous stuff to keep heating the raw material, then a bit to run a shredder to shred the raw material, with the rest being pure, evil lucre, smelly lucre at that.

I don't know about running a shredder too but look up the Hookway Retort for design info on getting the most out of the heat and gasses in a simple pyrolysis set up.

essentially, the point is to make use of plastic waste that is currently threatening ecosystems and the food chain.

@@h7opolo I think it's a great idea to recycle for sure, but it's my opinion there needs to be a net gain. Maybe this has one and I don't see it. There is obviously a net gain when recycling plastic into other products.

@@shmerd1 the net gain is not purely energetic, the gain comes from recovering and protecting the environment.

You guys are missing the point we need to bury this stuff not burn it and release it into the air. We got it from the ground put it back. As a polymer it mostly inerit when we burn it we add to the carbon problem. Solution stop buying stuff in plastic Personally I mostly cook out doors on a small wood grill with sticks the gasafier idea is ok as long as you aren't using fossil fuel

It takes more energy (fossil fuel use) to recycle plastic than to make new plastic from virgin oil - capitalist con - no such thing as a free lunch! Being Green means but wasting energy & resources in the first place. (Dot)

My pleasure

I did add a collector there because the condensate has to go somewhere. So instead of the condensate going into the flare, and mixing with the flashback arrestor's water. Its just easier to collect the condensate than to separate it from the water.

@@torvusjunction fair enough , it feels almost like the condenser is pointless at that point. You could try expelling the oxygen form the system like they do in bigger commercial units . this removes the creation of water in the condenser completely.

Why do you say the condenser is pointless? If it is i'd like to make away with it.

@@torvusjunction because its after the fuel collection. its supposed to literally condense all those smoke vapours you see in your jar back into liquid. if its after, all its doing is condensing the secondary fumes from your fuel collecting jar.. your cross arm pipe coming from your boiling pot looks like its condensing a lot on its own which is why your getting the wax residue build up in your pipe. With regards to the wax , I would try to mix other plastic types in your shreddings to the prevent it being so high in volume.

What plastic types would you mix? Perhaps Polystyrene, LDPE? Thanx for replying, I love hearing others opinions and input.

Ill do some research thank you!

What do you mean bro?

Thanks! 👍

Do what I say, don''t do what I do hahaha

I am aiming to test each of the compatible plastics and then mix them all up to see what the end product is.

@@torvusjunction I tried a diesel wast oil in it and got far better results from it but got a dirty black sludge left. I are going to do more with wast oil as I think it gives better recovery and a lot less work.

Thats what im thinking. I guess if you really needed fuel in a liquid state this could work. My first thought was using this stuff to make a candle, but then he talked about how bad it smells lol

@@Nagol93 i put some thought into it and cant come up with a situation that justifies the “return on investment”. Unless im just missing something altogether, it just seems to me that it a zero sum game. No matter what time and energy you put into it, you still dont increase the reward.

@@Brykk The law of Thermodynamics is a bitch.

The input is probably 10 times more than what is produced yes.

Not at all ! It is one hundred present efficient ! No waist if you put your charcoal back in the machine with more plastic 8 parts and 2 pats of carbon ash back in your burner !

@@MarkChristopherBergeron are you an idiot?

I can give that a try, but I don't want to over complicate. I will try and flush the oxygen out first and see if that helps. If not I will try your idea.

inefficient yes, but the setup I have is not nearly as toxic as the gas produced as the average car. If this would be scaled up, something would have to be done. Although the flare burns clean, there is still small amounts of pollution.

The PETE used in milkjugs can be used to mold other useful objects. How about the worlds first PETE personal massage devjce? :p