Please never delete your channel or these videos. I've started my quest through Western Philosophy, and you've helped me more fully understand what I've read so far, and I plan on sticking with you through Heidegger and beyond. It'll take a while, but at least I know your videos will be here! Thank you so much!

New, fairly short lecture on this short (but sweet, or rather rich) Platonic dialogue

Excellent!! I recommend watching these straight after reading the dialogue! Brilliant, confirms some thoughts and helps you to rethink other points you may of missed or not seen as profound. Overall they help to deepen your knowledge of the dialogue, ask questions and think about your own thought process. Brilliant. Thank you for your efforts!

Thank you very much for the videos, they've been super helpful for my Greek philosophy classes. I never managed to focus on what my lecturer tries to convey so your lectures are a breath of fresh air.

Just finished ''Ion'' and I try to watch this lecture as preparation to tomorrow discussion about this dialog with my friend. Judging from first 10 minutes dr Sadler should win prize in contest of philosophical rhapsode, he really bring the story of dialog to life. But in opposition to Ion, I think that he know what he is doing;).

I am 60. I remember reading Meno when I was 12. I read the republic in college. I own alittle plumbing company and am presently recovering from surgery. Have profited on your Meno and ion lectures and have enjoyed revisiting several of the dialogues. Thank you.

After putting it off for quite a while, I finally read my first dialogue. I read Ion on your recommendation and I do think that its a great starting point. I cannot be more grateful to you and your video lectures, they are a gift which will be utilized by posterity!

Wonderful. Watched this just after reading the dialogue (my first by Plato!), and it was so enjoyable. I "got" a lot of it (which makes me childishly proud), but your lecture added so much more colour that I missed. Thank you!

I have an exam tomorrow and u totally saved my life right now! In the class I've heard magnet, art, rhapsode and divine inspiration but couldn't figure it out, now thanks to u I can pass my course :))

Thanks Dr Sadler. Minored in Philosophy in undergrad, your videos helped me through the course and continue to help me understand

It's nice to see such a thorough treatment of Ion. This has been one of the more interesting dialogues for me. Music/poetry/art all seem to scream Truth freely and yet the performers' lives tend not to be as virtuous as one would expect if they had actual knowledge of Truth/the Good. So Ion helped clear up some confusion for me there.

Thank you for the brilliant and inspiring lecture

Thank you, prof. Sadler! When you said they treat poets as bearers of knowledge it made much more sense. I thought they were discussing if he was good enough as a poet in today's terms.

Thank you so much for this video ...this is very helpful for my tomorrow 's exam and I'm from India ...and it's hard for me to understand Plato......so thank u so much.

Always rewards a re-read! (And this is worth a re-watch later too 😊) ❤️

Excellent. I just embarked on a self directed study of philosophy. I studied this at school but It was very superficial, although we touched on most of the major themes along the lines of Russell’s history of western philosophy

Just started Literary Theory course. This has been extremely helpful. Thank You so much Sadler...

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Excellent way to teach it. I enjoyed it immensely!

Merci pour toutes les vidéos que vous faites ! C'est vraiment d'une grande aide pour moi qui n'étudie pas la philosophie à l'université mais qui veut quand même comprendre les classiques. (En plus je peux entraîner mon anglais !)

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Horowitz said some pianists played certain compositions better than he did. For those compositions, he just did not have much of a feeling for them. He did not name the compositions.////// In Fellini's "Satyricon" there is short scene of a rhapsode reciting Homer at a dinner party.///There is British production of the "Oresteia" that is in English but tries to be as authentic as possible. If you type "Agamemnon 1983," you should probably see it. All male cast; they all wear masks. The man who plays Clytemnestra sounds like John Hurt. Thank you for your videos.

Hi Dr. Sadler. On my read of the Ion i found the stance on poetry and art extremely fascinating - but i also felt like this was just an introduction to something Plato could have discussed and wrote a whole lot more about. Here's my question - does Plato discuss art or the divine nature of poetry elsewhere in his work? Is this idea in Ion expanded on or are we as the reader meant to mull over it ourselves and lead to our own conclusions of the nature of Poetry/ Dance etc. Many thanks

Thanks a lot. Very good information. Helped me with my Philosophy of Arts final.

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If Plato/Socrates distrusted poets and rhapsodes, imagine what he would say about our modern society, where "movie stars" and "rock stars" and "celebrities" are idolized and held up as role models. Plato would probably say we lived in a society that has completely lost the plot.

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obrigado professor, ajudou bastante! ! ! ! aluno filosofia UFPE.

Where would this line of Divinity end with respect to the audience? Socrates says that the audience is the last ring under the sway of the magnet, but what of the spectator who gives an outline or speaks to another about the influence he took from the rhapsode? Would this chain of divinity end, or is the purpose of the gods to have an infinite influence upon the citizens of the earth?

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So, the one who can speak well can also strategically choose to base parts of his speeches or arguments on what can be regarded as a "myth" (as can be the Illiad and Odyssey), refusing to his audience the opportunity of using their mind, their reason, and driving them through this emotional possession wherever he's planned to, right? Is it the introduction of the criticisms about the use of myths in a dialogue as a corruption of the intellectual debate? An example of it could be an antic athenian politician saying that the people of the city should have this typical behaviour instead of this other one, because so did the heroes of the Illiad. I'm thinking this by linking 534-a and 535-d, I'd be glad to know your opinion about it.

Is it normal to have a huge problem with the way Socrates categorizes different arts? For example, he criticizes the rhapsode who specializes in a single poet, and says that unlike a doctor or fisherman, he doesn't have knowledge of his entire art. A surgeon specializing in heart surgery can still be said to practice the art of medicine without being qualified to perform surgery on the brain. A heart surgeon might not be able to tell you if a brain surgeon is doing a good job, just like an expert of Homer's poetry might not be able to tell you anything about Hesiod's poetry. A fisherman who specializes in freshwater fishing can still be said to practice the art of fishing without being qualified to deep sea fish and wouldn't be able to tell you if a deep sea fisherman is fishing well.

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Thank you very much. Nice video

isn't the dialog a note from platon while listening to socrates ? its written by platon but does not represent platons philosophy.. or am i wrong?

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would the second assumption change the outcome if it was argued that the arts mostly have different subject matters instead of completely different?

Isn't Socrates a little unfair towards Ion? Ion is an interpreter of Homer not a poet. Ion doesn't claim to be a poet but does claim to know Homer well, which he must in order to be a rhapsode right?

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Very nice

Couldn’t the same argument made against the poet also be made against the philosopher, mainly because philosophy has the same dependency of talking about subjects in which there is talk of but no intimate skill of the subjects in question?

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When was Plato's Ion published?

so what are the 3 main ideas here?

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Ion -plato summary in tamil(literary. Criticism

If there is truth in Plato's Cratylus regarding the "correctness" of names, then couldn't this Ion of Ephesus also be a "John"? If a John is an interpreter that confines his interpretations to a single author because he appears to lack the ability to interpret others, then couldn't Philo of Alexandria also be a John? The "experts" seem so dense it amazes me. They just follow what they are taught by others and never try to put all the pieces together into a context the makes sense. Plato was a Sophist who used Socrates as his "veil" and Plato's dialogues are discussions of metaphoric relationships that help in the decipherment of Sophist allegory. Of course if this became widely understood, then all those PhD's in Philosophy would become worthless pieces of paper and the world would be turned upside down (the "below" is brought to the "above").

Those demn interlocutors

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