Play (more) Like Vinnie and Ron Bruner With This Paradiddle System

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The 80/20 Drummer

The 80/20 Drummer

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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:26 - how I got into this
2:22 - example of the type of playing I mean
3:19 - why I took a hiatus
4:03 - "Berklee style"
5:26 - how my new thing is different
7:25 - enter the system
7:54 - SPECIFICS - step one - triple and quad paras
9:20 - SPECIFICS - step 2 - introducing the toms
10:59 - SPECIFICS - step 3 - toms with left hand hats
12:20 - outro

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@tasmanager3530
@tasmanager3530 10 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, new 80/20 video just dropped
@johnrobertcorney
@johnrobertcorney 10 ай бұрын
I’ll get the coffee going
@jasper36
@jasper36 10 ай бұрын
'...Syllable" is such a great term in this context. We use a lot of these ideas when we speak, often unconsciously.
@keyofweird
@keyofweird 10 ай бұрын
This is perfect timing. I'm actually practicing paradiddles as a part of Zack Groove's 30 day chops on Drumeo. My paradiddles are about to level up. Thanks for the video!
@doubts
@doubts 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this . Got a lot out of it. Cheers
@primslim620
@primslim620 10 ай бұрын
Interesting concept. It's funny how this superficially relates to the syllabic system in composing poems. Long syllables, largely used by the Greeks, elicited legato-sounding phrases. And in contemporary poetry forms, like spoken word, the "berklee chops" more relate to that. Basically, the paradiddle concept explained in the video, to my eyes, is more advanced, because it calls for a classical touch instead of being immediately choppy (not to downplay the stellar street classism of gospel drumming); I did some classical symphony shows when learning drums back in college. Back on the drum note altogether (pun intended), thanks for this detailed look into the science of this chop formula. Personally, I like it better than gospel chops. It looks to show more patience and anticipation about how to sustain a musical journey...an aesthetic in its own right. Great video! & till the next.
@nosfy
@nosfy 10 ай бұрын
Such a sick comparison! Nice comment.
@pablogugliotta
@pablogugliotta 10 ай бұрын
These licks remember me to Gary CHafee's Time functioning patterns, where he explained linear phrases as a variable number of single strokes followed by 1 o 2 kicks. So u had patterns of RLK RLRLK RLRLRLK etc. This way u can build long complex phrases thinking each lick as a block instead of a bunch of strokes, all mixed up
@8020drummer
@8020drummer 10 ай бұрын
Yes but the crucial detail for me is the symmetry. Think of this system I’m describing as taking the chafee thing and adding a “reflection” on the share. With a lot of linear stuff, you need a kick or double kick to get from the right hand back to the top of the kit.
@pablogugliotta
@pablogugliotta 10 ай бұрын
@@8020drummer yes u're right. In that particular Chaffee's book the connection between phrases could only be the kick.
@riffjetsit
@riffjetsit 10 ай бұрын
@@pablogugliotta Vinnie was Chaffee`s student in Berklee. and Bruner took lessons from Vinnie
@pablogugliotta
@pablogugliotta 10 ай бұрын
@@riffjetsit didn't know that! Thanks! 😁
@fabio.n4458
@fabio.n4458 10 ай бұрын
loved the clarity in this one. thx for taking your time with explaining ❤
@PerpetualTwilight88
@PerpetualTwilight88 10 ай бұрын
Great episode
@scravitz1958
@scravitz1958 10 ай бұрын
My sons drum teacher had him doing paradiddle between kick Tom hat and snare from his 3rd lesson. It’s a very cool sound imo!
@jasper36
@jasper36 9 ай бұрын
I thought of this video again today, listening to a mix of 2Pac's classic Nothing To Lose by Knxwledge. The original is a straight 4/4 but Knxwledge creatively places 2Pac's vocals over a 6/8 rhythm, and we get to hear a totally refreshed performance from 2Pac even though it's the same recording. So I thought of the syllabic stuff in drumming you're talking about here, in the context of various subdivisions. I think rapping has a lot of potential, as a tool for music/drum education.
@Everybodyrecords
@Everybodyrecords 10 ай бұрын
Methods, yay! Great "advanced meat & potatoes" -stuff, alongside the triplet language video.
@leocomerford
@leocomerford 10 ай бұрын
The "floaty fills"/legato/"long syllable" style clearly has a lot in common with those roll-based timpani passages in orchestral music which add a mood-heightening wash of sound rather than a strong beat or isolated sharp accents, right? Elvin Jones, IIUC, was a timpani fan from an early age, later took lessons, and then of course actually broke them out for _A Love Supreme_ , which seems significant.
@MrTisjeboy
@MrTisjeboy 9 ай бұрын
haha lol @ the outro
@animedrummerboy
@animedrummerboy 10 ай бұрын
2 questions are you still in nyc and are you giving in person 1 on 1 lessons?
@cfusilier2
@cfusilier2 10 ай бұрын
Would it be correct to identify these as gospel chops? Just a thought. Anyway, very cool. Thanks for explaining a curious technique that’s actually hard to explain.
@TriggerThat
@TriggerThat 10 ай бұрын
You can't say that on this channel man...its the chops that can't be mentioned! ;)
@8020drummer
@8020drummer 10 ай бұрын
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@setitfree78
@setitfree78 10 ай бұрын
No. It's a rudiment applied to the kit poorly.
@cfusilier2
@cfusilier2 10 ай бұрын
@@8020drummer Well, damn. I feel informed :) Sorry that happened to you though.
@Tristanrgreene11
@Tristanrgreene11 10 ай бұрын
Kinda like a carlockian flow roll… no that’s not a sushi roll but it should be the serious shits!
@Tristanrgreene11
@Tristanrgreene11 10 ай бұрын
Your hands are sounding good… I think you sound way more fluid with this approach as a whole but I prefer this to gospel chops… am I aloud to say gospel chops? Yes yes we can!
@efafe4972
@efafe4972 10 ай бұрын
now that ur affiliated is it not chill for you to play broken cymbals from random companies?
@8020drummer
@8020drummer 10 ай бұрын
I try my best to play meinl on camera, and luckily it’s what I’d chose to play anyway
@efafe4972
@efafe4972 10 ай бұрын
@@8020drummer those extra drys are fire
@ignacioperezdelcastillo3182
@ignacioperezdelcastillo3182 10 ай бұрын
Gracias
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