Elders in Sims 4 are literally adults with grey hair and different posture..

i need some "get off my lawn" grandpas and i need them now

In the sims 3 you can throw funerals for any death in the family, even pets. Its so cool all the guests arrive wearing all black and give their condolences and your sim can give a speech in front of the grave. Its such a neat feature that we took for granted!

In the Sims 3 you can ask someone's parents for their hand

I think elders is one of the aspects of the game that is considered boring, so it is never fixed because "no one cares about them", so they remain boring because they are never fixed, so they are never fixed because they are boring, so they remain boring (and are never fixed)

You missed the ability of intimidating teens with crane in Sims 3

I will never get over the hula girls dancing😂❤️

Elders can also pinch children's cheeks in the Sims 3.

EA doesn't care about elders because they're not the target demographic when it comes to DLC 😭😭

I’ve always thought you couldn’t only have elders and minors in The Sims 2 because there’s a possibility the elder would die before the minor was aged up

Evil elder sims on sims 3 can also harass the world with a cane! It's really funny!!

Elders in the sims 1: Adult: You fool, I am immortal

I think sims 3 has the best elders with canes and reminiscing the golden days and more. Sims 4 elders just simply... ExIsT and sims 2’s oldie family makes me hate playing elders by themselves 😂

Sims 2 & 3: *notice elders* Sims 4: "How is elder formed?" Sims 1: "Elders? Never heard of em"

I'd love to have a caretaker career, as well as a retirement home option. The retirement home could have elements that are in the university pack, so you dont have to control all the residents. I would like canes back. More soical interactions like sims 3,but also special interactions between grandparents and grandchildren...like certain life stories, etc. At the end of an edlers life i would really like to have funerals and a lot type for graveyards.

Omg, the celebrate the golden anniversary option is so cute!!

I LOVE that you include sims 1 too!!! no matter what, it's where the game started and it's amazing to see what a BIG leap there was from 1 to 2!

The Sims 4 IS evolving just backwards

you forgot to mention the inheritance in the sims 2, that was a good reason to marry with an old rich sim

I think it’s so funny that the devs like to say that nobody plays with families, while at the same time not giving us family game play. I like playing with entire families but in Sims 4 it’s so hard.

I think it would be cool if, once your sim reached elderhood, they would gain one or two new traits exclusive to elders; based on how well your sim has lived (maybe dictated by how many of those aspiration/whim points they have, how well they did in their career, and how many skills they've learned?) your sim would either gain two random negative traits if they did the worst, one negative and one positive if they did decent, two positive if they did good, and if they did great, you the player can decide yourself what traits they should have. Negative traits could be something like "weak-heart" which would make the sim more likely to die from exhaustion (but the better your sim's athletic skill is, the less likely your sim is to get it randomly), "out of touch" which will make your sim worse with electronics and sometime gain negative moodlets when talking to young adult sims, "grouchy" which makes your sim gain a negative moodlet when it's too noisy or when they're near children (but this trait can't be gained by sims with certain traits, like "cheerful"), or "forgetful" which works similarly to the absent-minded trait in Sims 3 (this trait would then be less likely to occur the better your sim's logic skill is) Positive traits could include traits like "proud grandparent" only available to elder sims with grandkids and would give them a special bond with their grandkids that both fills their social need faster but also helps the grandkid sims learn skills faster, and give special happy moodlets, "still in my prime" which will make it so your sim doesn't get exhausted like you demonstrated in the video, "silver fox/cougar" which not only gives your sim special confident and flirty moodlets, but can also give special flirty moodlets to sims they flirt with, and makes it impossible to die of exhaustion from woohoo, or "wise" which will not only make your sim less likely to get mad or sad over small things like insults or accidents, but will also make your sim learn mental skills quicker

In the sims 3 you can throw a "funeral party" when it's close to an elder's lifespan

I actually like that teens through elders share clothing in the sims 4, it's always nice to have those options available. Sometimes I want a teen who dresses like an old lady or a grandma who's a party girl. One change that I think would make it better though is if the clothing were tagged to the different age groups and then filtered by default like it is for feminine/masculine or the different outfit categories. That way the option is still there but only when you want it.

I think it would be perfect if they tagged the clothes by age but let us choose whether we want to use the tags or not (just like the formal tag, for example). This way we could get the best of both worlds.

I like that in Sims 4 elders outfits are the same as adults. I just wish there were more elder appropriate clothing options. I'd also like a "go for a walk" and "do light exercise" option for elder Sims so that they can get exercise without over exerting themselves.

In my opinion, I don't mind that elder clothes are the same as adult clothes, because it gives you more customization, I always hated that in the past games that there were some only teen, and only elder clothes, so when a teen ages up for example they will have different clothes ;and when someone becomes an elder, you can't have the clothes that they had whilst they were an adult, also, about the great grandparents thing, it is actually a thing in the sims 4, but for some weird reason it doesn't show in CAS.

Herb bragging about Angela be a party animal is a mood. He must be so proud of her 10000 kids as a teenager hahahahaha.

in Sims 3 CAS you forgot to mention that you can customize the amount of wrinkles and "age spots" of the sim

They are so relegated!!!! I loved to take the chance of a sim becoming an Elder to give then a second storyline or spice things up, get a second career, adopt some children, become a hunter, anything hahaha

I like having the elders in a club where they can play cards and hangout together. The club system in the Sims 4 is so helpful to remedy social interactions. I really thought Kniffy Knitting was a miss when they didn't have 'old man' clothes and more things to do for elders. Elders can be boring to play because they don't have enough unique things about them to make them interesting.

Elders have always been my least favourite life stage. Usually by then they've already completed whatever goals I had for them so I end up just trying to find things for them to do and waiting for them to die. This could be especially frustrating in Sims 3 because you had no idea when they were going to die. In Sims 2 I remember creating a retirement home and just moving my elder Sims in there so that I at least had all the elders in one place.

I looved the walking cane in sims 3 (with the strollers for baby's/toddlers) - something small but it made such a difference for me, really makes the ages more distinct and unique

they just rushed the life stages and didn't add any animations and interactions and thing that we're to naive to notice. And I find that very insulting. Stupid EA

I hate the fact that in Sims 4 retired elders are basically unemployed.

Loving the Twilight vibes in the beginning of the video😂

Elders reminisce about memories they never had because Sims 4 has nothing regarding memories or moments to begin with.

I love the boasting about grandchildren and the walking canes. I always felt elders were ignored.

I want interactions like 'impart wisdom' onto children and grandchildren, or 'i am so proud' after their kid graduates or gets a promotion, i want them to tell stories, write memoirs, i want adult sims to call their parents as free babysitters if they are alive, i want some sort of hospice care rabbit hole, i want disease to affect them more, i want negative interactions like 'criticize life choices' or a phone call pop up like 'why don't you call me anymore?!', also i would love if potential spouses could ask their s.o.'s parents 'permission to marry their child' and their relationship score affects the outcome. the 'show off grandkids' from the sims 3 is the cutest thing, also canes are fantastic as well. hobbies like, games, puzzles, birdwatching, bingo etc. would all fill up their retirment. i want a 'funeral' party system to properly mourn them when they die. i want sims to 'talk to' gravestone instead of just mourning it so they can try to feel connected to their dead elders. maybe even have the ghost show up to listen but the sim can't see them. i think something like that would be really sweet. i want a tag system for 'teen clothes' and 'elder clothes' that exists by default but like with the gender tags of 'masculine' or 'feminine' it can be removed if you want clothes from another life state for a specific reason. All the knitted sweaters, crocs and high waisted jeans please i want so much for elders.

My elder Don Lothario died from exhaustion from too much woohooing 😂 if I had to choose one way for that sims to die that’s exactly what i’d choose lol

Today I learned that in the Sims 2 you can just drag and drop sims within the family tree to link them together. I played that game for 5 years and longer and I have NEVER known that 😅

I think that in the sims 2 you can't just have elders with kids without an "adult sim" because they die at a certain exact time. If it was just elders with kids, the kids would be alone when the elders die, resulting in a "game over". In the sims 3, for example, the death of the elders is random, so it is easy for the game to postpone it till the baby/kid/teen gets to the age of adulthood. Hugs! :)

Last time I was this early Skip Broke and Michael Bachelor were still alive

Sims 4 Parenthood has a "back in my day" social interaction for elder Sims. When I first did this her speech bubble had a picture of an old box TV.

the idea of sharing clothes across ages in sims 4 sounds great in theory but it's resulted in all the stages feeling even more samey

Please do adults vs young adults. The difference has always confused me

3:05 Whoa whoa whoa, Mortimer!!! You wanna flirt with Dina AND Nina?!? Have you been hanging out with Don Lothario too much? XD

Toddlers are my least favourite life stage but elder is right up there, particularly in the Sims 4, but yes, all games. When my sims became elders, I tried to still play them as enthusiastically as I did before but it really does seem to be a 'throw-away' life stage. Basically, you're just waiting for them to die so you can get them out of your hair. To say that is totally unfair to elders is a colossal understatement. (About to date myself here) I continue to watch an old 80s t.v. sitcom called the Golden Girls. For those that don't know, it's a sitcom about 3 middle-aged women and 1 elderly woman (mother of one of the characters). These four girls show that life doesn't end because you hit a certain age. In the Sims, however, it does, for all intents and purposes. I would love to see more content for elders. Community Center volunteer and charity work, for example. Special clubs and associated events; perhaps even dance events specifically for elders. A matchmaker for elders (because who wants to grow old alone - especially if you are widowed already) as a service (such as Community Center speed-dating). Elders would be ideal for arranging and organizing parties and events, particularly for the jet-set, corporate go-getters (think: the Fengs). Playing an elder should be as much fun as playing any other life stage, just different. I'm getting up there myself and believe me, I can really appreciate this entire video. :)

I think it's such a shame that elders are so neglected. As a generational player, it makes me sad to see them get written off as soon as they hit the final stage of life. Their twilight years are important too!

I think the reason you needed an adult sim would have been incase the elders die off and the child/teen sim is then unplayable.

if you have seasons you can check the calender after they age up to elder and it will show next birthday. with some testing I have noticed they usually die on this day unless they are active or have the body builder aspiration reward trait.

Sims 3 generations gave a lot of depth to all ages. I really wish sims 4 would make a generations ep so we could have a more realistic experience with our sims. Also, I had no idea elders in sims 2 could celebrate their marriage. That's so sweet ❤

I kinda think EA is like “elders are gonna die anyways they don’t need much content.” Which makes me very sad they deserve better!

I think being able to have all the outfits on teens, adults, elders actually gives you more customization in cas. I have to say that that is an improvement compering to the previous games eventhough you highlighted it as a big dissapointment all the time. We have oldish looking stuff in casm in s4, but in other games if you want to make an elder as a young soul you pretty much have only cc.

"A thing that I don't like in TS4" is my favorite Cindy's quote hahaha

Hi Cindy, have you ever read about the original The Sims 4? It was supposed to be a multiplayer mobile game, that's why it has such a poor gameplay... I really hope they don't bring this idea up again on The Sims 5.

Elders need a update or a pack like elder life stuff pack

I loved sims 2... The hula dancers at the end of elders life was something. Like hey, you lived your life well - come enjoy the afterlife. The first time it happened, I paused the game and called my mum 😂 Not sure if it’s only for elders in TS4, but they can renew their vows :) I’d like for elders to do something...and not just elders. Kids and teens are pretty much neglected. Bring back the private schools, activities for kids and teens, not just scouting.

What I’ve noticed between the elders in the games are sims 2’s and sims 4’s elders are basically adult sims with the hunch, but sims 2’s elders have more to do than their 4th counterpart. In terms of appearance, 2 and 4’s adults look like people in their 60s to 70s While sims 3’s elders look like they are people in their 80s and above. If In a future sims generation they add more than the usual lifestates they could have two sets of elders, one could be seniors where the sims look like adults in their 60s and 70s while the 2nd part of the elder stage which can be called elders, can look more plump or skinny and look like people on the 80-90s age range. Kinda more realism and progression in ageing (unlike the baby to child bizarreness)

And in the sims 4 the only elder-like pack is nifty knitting and the sims admits its just for young adults in the trailers.

I like in ts3 how you can add extra age details to adults and elder sims!

The boast about grand children option made me realize my TS4 sims never seem to talk about other sims. They never get a speech bubble with someone's face. Also when interacting with another sim you can't see what their actions are. The friendship and romance var may change nut unless it's something really obvious you can't see what they're doing. Those to things really create a disconnect for me in the game. It takes away some of the immersion and makes me less attached to my sims.

I think the reason that they didnt allow 2 elders and children households is because the elder may die and leave the children as orphans

I want elder specific hobbies/skills tbh. Give us incentive to retire!

I would LOVE! more activity for just elders. Like maybe bingo or even discounts on food like they get a senior discount.

The fact that the Sims team missed an opportunity to expand on the elders topic with Nifty Knitting😔

Sims 4 really woke up and said " we'll give them ✨nothing✨ but charge them more"

I was making elders today and it was so difficult! No ‘elder’ clothes stood out to me and there’s barely any ‘elder’ hairstyles (in the sims 4)

One of my elder sims in Sims 4 got pregnant. She called her daughter to ask for advice, "Should so-and-so and I try for a baby?" When the (adult) daughter responded, "You? A parent?!" She said something like, "That's it, I'm going to try for a baby right now!" I thought it was just a joke but then two days later she was pregnant and gave birth (then died a few days later). I had no idea she could get pregnant! ETA I have no mods and I have never seen this happen before. This just happened last weekend.

I personally like that all the life stages have access to the same clothing. Some clothes are obviously targeted towards a specific life stage, but having them accessible for everyone, leaves the door open for some weird/interesting sims :) Categories would be a great addition though. Like, search/sort clothing by "teens", "elders" ect

The face you made when you summarize what the sims 4 has really got me

I want literally everything from Sims 2 & 3 plus I want them to shout at kids to "Get off their Lawn" I wish we also had th newspaper back for them to read the obits.

back in the day, elders was the lifestate that I would hurry through just to get them out of my house. now, I grow attached to my sims, no matter their age, but I get sad at the lack of content for them... so it's lots of movie nights and reading for them lmao or fancy parties

I've been creating Stars Hollow to replace Brindleton Bay and many of the prominent characters from Gilmore Girls are elders. It made me realize how little there is for them to do. It would be really cool to have a Retirement pack which would add in things like a retirement party, new activities like bridge, golf, mah jong/dominoes, and tennis. There could be awkward social interactions between grown children and parents like, "So met any nice sims lately?" or "When are you going to give me grandbabies? You're not getting any younger!" There could even be cute interactions between grandparents and grandchildren like grandparents teaching the kids how to play chess or how to cook. Kids could have a special interaction with grandparents like, "You were once my age!?"

I love that the background in the beginning, reminds me of Skyrim. Anyway I preferred the elder stage in the Sims 3, it didn't force them into a gimped state like the Sims 2 while still having gameplay distinctions for elders, unlike the Sims 4.

Personally I like that we get the same clothes in CAS in TS4, I think it gives more options for how your elder sims look. Particularly since the elder clothes in previous games aren't exactly nice. Definitely do need more for elders though, without a doubt there needs to be more actions for them to do. I will say though the club feature in Get Together can be great (for all ages but in this case elders). I like to make knitting or cooking clubs just for elders and it gives them something to do during the day. Would love actual Elder community centres and things like that in game though. And walking sticks definitely should be added. I never had Generations and those animations in TS3 look so great!

I love your comparison videos! I think you're very frank and honest about how The Sims 4 is not the strongest entry in the series but also about how every entry has their own strengths and weaknesses. I really appreciate your no bull approach as I personally don't think many of the EA Game Changers hold that mentality and can kind of let down their viewers in that way. Thanks again Cindy! EDIT: Clarity and also wanted to add - death by too much woohoo, that's how I want to go lmfao

I agree with almost all of the points that you've made, However I feel like having only a specific and limited choice for elders' clothing could be considered an act of ageism in today's world I mean nowadays elders tend to wear clothes that are not that different from what adults/young adults wear irl.. I personally loved the clothing tbh

id really love canes for elders, like they could add dat in an update 👀

you can't have a household of just elders and kids in sims 2 because elders are gonna die soon and the kids would be alone without guardians

I like the elders in the Sims 2

In sims 3 I had this one old lady that would always come to may house to heckle my sims and kick my trash, also in another save there was and old man that would enter my house without permission, insult one of my sims and leave. I don't know is it is one specific townie but I found it hilarious.

That old age death in sims 2 is so cute!

it would be cool if Elders that are in the last days starts to lost some memories or if they can use a wheelchair or have interactions with their grandchildren like " tell Grandfather or Grandmother anecdote or story" that is linked to some event you played related to that sim that is recorded on the memory of the simor. also it could be funny if elders can also use false teeth as an item or medical prescription pills ( this last should have some effects like increasing their mood or helping the sim in some way)

I absolutely love your videos! Thank you for all the work you put into them.

We will get a 'generations' type pack, and the pre-pack update will include better babies. I just know it.

I loved the interaction with the grandchildren's photos, it was so cute. I remember that if you have Seasons EP, your elders sims can go to the spring festival and dance, i don't know if they dance slowly that the others sims, but it was very cute to watch them. I hope those dances come back for the sims 4. Thanks for the video Cindy.

It would be really cool to have more differences between teens, young adults/adults and elders. I have all of them in my household I’m playing rn and it’s getting kind of draining/boring to keep up with all of them! Still entertaining, but it would be nice to have more to do.

I will never get over the size of cheeks in the Sims 2 lol

Honestly, I’m kinda glad that elders in TS4 have the same clothes as the previous life stages, cause I felt like the previous games wanted to make elders dress more modestly, but that might not be the case for everyone. What if I want a rocker grandma who wears leather pants and crop tops? The lack of gameplay detail upsets me tho, cause my rocker grandma might still have back problems and needs a cane.

Going from life to inevitable death.

I would love options like spoil grandkids. I would like options for canes/walking sticks. More interactions. Games like Bingo for them to play better reminiscing.

I once had an elder in ts3 who just wouldn't die of old age. He just kept on kicking and lived to see his 5th great-grandchild be born. And that was after shortening the elder stage to 10 days

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I think sims should have more traits and trait slots growing up in general as there's no complexity in their personality. Like, do you think being vegetarian should take 1/3 of your personality? I think not. I want my elder sims to get an extra slot just so I can give them something like: "grumpy", "gossiper" or "obsessive knitter". I feel like traits (even the ones that hint at changing your sims personality) don't do anything. I have a bunch of hot headed sims and they literally act the same way as my normal sims, it's awful

i just realised the lack of content for elder sims might be the main reason why i don't like when my sims aged up to elders. there's not much to do!

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The detail you give is amazinggg

i love watching these videos so much, thank you for all you do Cindy 🥺 loved the outro as well hahaha as for elders, i completely agree, i would love to see some more specific interactions and more gameplay for them, i play the sims 2 the most and playing with empty nester elders is so boring i usually either end up never making them retire so at least they have to spend some time away or chucking them into retirement homes and just letting them do what they want on fast speed (which by the way could also be part of the game, the retirement homes i mean)

In the Sims 4, it is so fucking hard to die. I had a sim who had the active trait and completed the body builder aspiration *and* my lifespan was set to long. She just would NOT die, I didn't realize those things added days to sims lives, so I was pretty frustrated lol. I just killed her off through exercising, she died doing what she loved I guess.

so basically the sims 4 elders are half-baked versions of the sims 2 elders