Why you keep calling on Jesus?

True but the actual video doesn’t start until 5:34. This dude is talking slower than brook lopez on a fast break. Click bait video about a fake hot take.

It’s called X now

If you think the video goes too slow, just speed it up to 1.25x

@@DrKlitamortusyea bro such click bait i bet everyone is dying to watch a demarcus cousins hot take video

Nah Rasheed Wallace , bill laimbeer started it , cousins ain’t do nothing

All he impacted was Bigs complaining and flopping for calls

I think it’s cuz he was the best center while the center position was the weakest it had ever been in nba history. Deandre Jordan was first team all nba a few years before boogies prime

I like Boogie, but Boogie as influential is a wild take…

@@andresdelportillo9917giving credit to some bum ass shooters like lambier and the Wallace is crazy they didn’t influence a damn thing bro💀

Prime Cousins is just as good as Embiid he just didn't have good teammates Embiid is a 7 foot Harden with shot blocking ability Cousins offensive bag was way deeper

@@DreDaDon16 jamal crawford is better than klay thompson because he has a deeper bag

@@DreDaDon16 The reality is Embiid isnt far off Jokic, the difference is Jokic is one of the greatest playmakers and passers of all time. So when you look at cousins who is signficantly worse defe nsively than embiid and a worse scorer. The slightly better playmaking doesnt come close to making up for those other 2 factors

@@johnfinance8053 Embiid without Free Throws he is just a more aggressive Karl Anthony Towns I never seen a so called elite big man miss so many shots at the rim..... Embiid is the most overrated player I've ever seen MVP my ass

He was almost as good as jokic it’s that play making at such an high level basically guarantees you at least make the playoffs while being pure scorer is probably the easiest thing to replace in the league and won’t account for many wins unless your surrounded defenders. It’s like comparing iverson and j kid.

Preach

So by that math, that means that the Kings are responsible for 1/4 of the issues for Cousins during the 2010s.

Or he really wasnt just that great. If Old CP can carry a young thunder team why cant cousins do that too?

@@dumbassdude8372 Embiid carried the 10-72 Sixers roster to a 41-win pace as a rookie, Jokic carried an extremely mid roster to 48 wins, but Cousins with a slightly better surrounding cast than either of those got 33 wins because he's not as good as people think he was

@@za5528lmfao what roster did the kings have that was comparable to anything the nuggets had ?????

yeah he had a 3-4 year run where no center was even close to him so it made him stand out more

Great point

Is him being compared to Adebayo at the end fair?

I believe Anthony Davis passed him in 2015

@@joelnigro5739 AD was a pf

Facts the Warriors championship centers included Bogut and Zaza who would get cooked by Jokic/Embiid. There was only like 2 big men you had to worry about and they were on trash teams.

​@@MgbruhBogut wouldn't get cooked fuck are you talking about

I didn't really see much of the 2010s, but Dirk's wiki says he played until 2019. While Duncan only played until 2016, so if Duncan counts, then I don't see why Dirk wouldn't be on that list.

Were Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol bad in the 2010s? Pau won rookie of the year in 2002, and seemed like a good player in the 2000s. I'm guessing he made allstar teams, and that's when competing against big names that would often get allstar selections like Shaq, KG, Tim Duncan, Dirk, throw in Yao Ming. and Marc Gasol was really good in 2019 during the Raptor's championship run.

Marc Gasol > Cousins

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Was Cousins capable of being the best player on a low seeded playoff team in your opinion?

Also, for players who have made the playoffs (regardless of success in it) is it fair to say that what they did in the regular season in their careers are mostly forgotten (regardless of how cool those highlights would be)

Imagine if Boogie was drafted by teams with good player development and management like the Raptors, GSW, Spurs...he would have kicked ass.

Kemba had a similar benefit of the doubt before he went to Boston

There is no if in his career. He can't lead kings to an 8th seed team. Most of his tenure with kings are awful. His numbers are empty calories

Puh lease. Replace Cousins with Shaq and he carry those teams to an 8th seed. He was a second or third option at best.

@@bandito241 never said, that those takes overrating Cousins are right. Just trying to explain, where they are coming from. And yes, Cousins would have had a better career, had he been drafted by the San Antonio Spurs... But he still would not have been as good, as Jokic is right now. There is a middle ground here. Also, Shaq would have quit on Sacramento after 3 seasons and demanded a trade. Or at least gotten out of there ASAP. I mean, he left a pretty decent situation in Orlando after just 4 years.

what if he didn't have a terrible personality

All the Pels had to do was fill out the rest of the roster when he played with AD they looked like 17u kids playing vs 12u the injury killed that potential

This is the right answer

We didn't even see Boogie in his prime, so his peak could have been a MVP for at least one season.

@@allenmk138 This is complete bullshit lol

@@xzxzxccxzcw2028you’re acting like he’s just a mid player. Idc who it is, you have to have been great to average 25 and 10 in the nba for a 5 year stretch. Complete bullshitbthat peopple just act like he’s some overrated bum who wasn’t good just cuz some dude says he’s not as good as generational talent?

It’s cool to be in the Hall of Fame, even if only for one game.

center era is still garbage

@@Rance_SportsJarrett Allen, Jokic, embiid, AD, sabonis. Looney, Claxton and bam aren’t horrible

Would it be fair to call Cousins an above average center in a typical era for the position? Not the best, but above the middle? Also, when Rusty made a video about Jahlil Okafor, he argued that Okafor in a different era would be looked at like Jefferson was. Was Al Jefferson also a good post up guy who couldn’t do anything else well?

​@@Rance_Sportsbetter than Cousins's era 🤷‍♂️

@@Rance_Sportshow is it? It’s the best it’s been since the 90s

He couldn't be that guy with them teammates with the kings lol

Yep, he was an all star but not even a superstar in his prime

⁠@@Igor19485I wouldn’t categorize him as just an “all star”, whatever the middle ground between all star and superstar is where Cousins fits. People were willing to trade multiple 1st rd picks for him. He was considered a cornerstone piece for a lot of teams trying to trade for him

I didn't get to watch much of the 2010s, but generally speaking if you're a top 10 guy in the league, you're an amazing player like in the mid 2000s you have you have Shaq, Yao, KG, Tim Duncan, Dirk, Amare, Nash, TMac, Pau Gasol, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Elton Brand, Baron Davis, AI, etc, etc. If you're a top 10 from that group you're amazing I forgot someone like Dwyane Wade (who was arguably the best player in the nba in the mid 2000s)

He was undeniably top 5, Demarcus Cousins was undeniably the best center in the league before injury

No one is ever going to refer to it as X lol.

@@bcyost1908Why it was renamed that is beyond me

People say he would've been better than Steph Curry lmao

@@za5528 he coulda been if he didnt get hurt

@@voiceofreason2674 Very unlikely he would've been a top-10 maybe at worst top-12 player of all time. Not to say he wouldnt have been an all-time great but there's levels between like a top-30 all time and top-10 all time ish player

Team and era of position exacerbate that perhaps

Iverson carried a team to the finals. He’s in a different tier

@@taj3618Hot take I have about AI: The first game of the 2003 playoffs was just as good if not better than his first game of the 2001 finals. A worse opponent (albeit still top ten defensively), but he shot 20% better from the field, and scored seven more points I believe.

He doesn’t belong in the convo with any of those 3. Let alone AI and Russ. Let alone AI. There’s tiers dog, like that’s just a dumb take.

@@fortynights1513 a win in the finals hits a lil bit harder tho

@@taj3618A win in the finals is obviously a bigger stage and the last round of the playoffs. But I think the efficiency gap is worth noting because AI was said to be very inefficient, and in the 01 finals game he was about at his average to a bit above, whereas his 03 first round game was on 74% true shooting. I think it’s a fair thing to go back and forth between personally.

I mean deandre Jordan made it in 2016

Mike Bibby never made it either

Bec he played for the Kings

who determines who makes all nba teams how do you know the DeMarcus didn't get 5 votes and DeAndre Jordan got 6 votes, so DeAndre Jordan got all nba first team (or whatever number of votes there are) how do you know one of the media members doesn't like DeMarcus and didn't vote for him, because of that

@@adonisbarlay3292 that is an outlier bc of how bad the position was, but look at Demarcus still couldn’t beat out DeAndre

If a health Demarcus cousins was on the kings team now they would have made it to the western conference finals at least. He kills domantus sabonis in offensive skill and playmaking shooting etc.

How many centers in the past 23 years averaged 25+ ppg Shaq obviously I had look up Yao Ming's numbers, and he had one season (and the league was a slower pace back then) Amare (and people considered him to be kind of a PF playing C, just to make the Suns a faster team) and then the guys you mentioned (Jokic, Embiid, and AD) - and Boogie

​@@justanobody0Dwight Howard didn't constantly avg 25 but in his prime he was definitely better than boogie all around especially rebounding and def

​@@joel8692 well, I wasn't saying if your ppg was higher than a player it automatically makes that player the better player. I was just saying that Boogie is one of the few centers to average 25 ppg in the last 23 years. Dwight never averaged 25 ppg in a regular season according to his wiki. I only got to see young Dwight, and championship Lakers Dwight, and even championship Lakers Dwight was a handful for guys to deal with.

@@justanobody0 Yao Ming wasn’t really able to play much in his career because of those injuries, so who knows what he would’ve actually averaged?

without any defense which is an essential for a center

​@@EventualWarlordMy thoughts exactly like bruh he was getting ejected a bunch of times and had fist fights with teammates and even Fans in one instance. Bro would throw fits in practice reportedly too. Like bro i was 10 when he those story's came out and i didn't like him.

@@davit368 Tf? There is no defense in the NBA anymore.

@@roboninja3194that’s cap everyone team that has won a ring in the last 5 years has had a top 2 defence except the nuggets and they went to 3rd in the playoffs

I was gonna say the same thing. I think embiid is drastically overrated. Dude turns mid in the playoffs

Not defending Embiid, but what part of his game doesn’t translate to the playoffs in your opinion?

W for embiid slander

​@fortynights1513 literally everything about his game. Doesn't get his flop calls so he just gives up. He got roasted on defense so bad these playoffs too.

​@@fortynights1513all of his offense. The dropoff in his offensive numbers on regular season and playoffs is quite big. However, his defense does step up in the playoffs so he really needs a reliable scorer on his team, which he doesn't have on his career thus far.

what does Cousins have to do with Embiid being a major post season dud ? i swear y’all wanna absolve that flopping baby of any criticism

@@ThaTruth223It sort of comes down to if you think it’s better to miss the playoffs (albeit with worse talent around you), or make it and underperform badly. There are other factors regarding who is better, but which should get credit for better team success comes down to preference a bit.

"but the league has changed" the video says as Demarcus started shooting more 3s, he actually shot them at a decent %. He said that he shot on average around 36% on 5.5 attempts the season before the Pelicans, and the season with the Pelicans. To compare that to say Lebron. Lebron's career average is 34.5% from 3 and coaches are ok with him shooting 3s. and Lebron's career average attempts per game is 4.6. This last season Lebron took 6.9 attempts per game and shot 32%

You wait they like the kings ain’t have a top 3 WORST g front office the last 15 years

Except for the part where he called him likeable

33/10/4 on 65% ts while being a defensive anchor getting mvp is not robbing anyone

@AjaySingh-ob1mr you typed all that and we all o ow he won because of voters fatigue. NBA voters don't won't see players get the mvp all the time for whatever dumb reason

@@1ajgtwmThe MVP Embiid has may not have been deserved, but I wouldn’t call it straight up robbery. Nash 06, and Wes Unseld’s MVP’s were probably worse selections than this.

People historically tended to think in terms of positions, and it feels like the last few years we have began to think in terms of roles more than positions.

it always felt that way with Tim Duncan and Dirk they always seemed physically big enough/tall enough to play center generally speaking, and sometimes they did, but they were generally referred to as 4s.

I don't think that comparing Tyrese to CP3 makes him overrated. Their numbers are very similar at their age and their efficiency is also the same. In fact, Tyrese is actually a bit more efficient as a scorer compared to CP3 and is a better 3-point shooter. CP3 has higher volume during his prime years in the midrange but Tyrese has shown that he can be on that level and could develop into being even better. The only thing separating them as scores is that CP3 was better at finishing and in the floater range which I think cancels out Tyrese being a better 3-point shooter. CP3 was obviously one of the best defenders in the league in his prime, but Tyrese is also a good defender, not as good as prime CP3 but still good. They are good at some of the same things, put up similar numbers and efficiency which is probably why they get compared. Tyrese still has a ways to go, especially as a finisher but he has a similar impact on winning that CP3 has shown throughout his career. The Pacers were above .500 with Tyrese healthy but they were 9-17 without him, which is a crazy drop-off. They would have made at least the play-in as the 8 or 9 seed with him but ended up finishing 11th instead. Just because two players are getting compared does not mean that they are both at the same level. In the case of Tyrese ,he plays very similarly to CP3, and that is probably why they are getting compared.

liez

W embiid slander

I love embiid slander as much as the next guy but chill

You clearly didn’t watch the video

The Sixers went 10-72 the season before Embiid had them on a .500 pace as a rookie with the exact same roster in 2016/17. People think the Sixers were a respectable organization BECAUSE he keeps carrying them to winning records, but they were a dumpster fire until 2020: the Process, drafting multiple huge busts with high picks, trading away Tatum pick for Fultz, screwing up Fultz's injury recovery, their GM Colangelo was badmouthing his own players on burner accounts, horrible medical team, traded away Mikal Bridges, Zhaire Smith nearly died, traded away most of their assets for nothing, alienated Jimmy Butler, gave Tobias Harris and Al Horford huge contracts If the Sixers and Kings trade places people would be saying "what could Cousins have been if he got drafted to a winning organization like the Kings instead of a dumpster fire like the Process Sixers" because Embiid would have had the Kings actually winning games by being all-timer on offense and making even 4 other bench player traffic cones have a top-10 defensive rating whenever he was on the court

@za5528 Okay there is a whole bunch of wrong in your logic. First the 76ers though during Cousins rookie year went 41-41 and did not have a true center like Cousins that year. Second, they were under different management at the time. They were a playoff team with a young core who had not yet tore down everything for the Process. Having a guy like Cousins would have stopped the process before it began because they would have had their 25 pts and 10 reb player to build around, with a ton of players who became staples on playoff contenders over the following decade. Third, speaking of those players, the 2010-11 76ers had solid vets like Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala, along with promising young players like Jru Holiday, Lou Williams and Thaddeus Young. They also had guys who would grow into solid rotation players at the time in Spencer Hawes, Jodie Meeks and Mareese Speights. Cousins would be replacing Evan Turner in this scenario, but that new 5 man core, and those 3 on the bench, the 76ers would have been arguably the best if not second best organization in that years Lottery for Cousins to land in.

@@bbro43Side note now that the Sixers of the early 2010’s were mentioned: What’s a better team, the Sixers of the last few years, or the team pre-process?

@fortynights1513 the post process team is obviously better than the pre-process. Now if you were to ask if the pre-process with Cousins in place of Evan Turner who was drafted right before him, I would go pre-process. Cousins is not as good as Joel. But in his prime, he could have essentially played him to a draw. But essentially Simmons/Harris and Harden/Harris have not done enough to outweigh the depth on a pre-draft team.

@@bbro43 Not only that it would have prevented the 'Process' from starting.

Same with ghost of tsushima good story and great graphics but boring open world, forgettable side characters expect the uncle and Yuna.

@@therealgmoneyd yeah it’s weird because i agree with everything you said with this comment but it’s one of my favorite games of all time 😭😭

omg .. when this comparison happen .. all hell loose ... a LOT of people really thinks that cousins are better than both of them, and they are considerably better because of the team around them ... my god ...

The Dream is #1 !!!!!!

Was DeAndre Jordan any good?

@@fortynights1513 He was a good player at his peak, benefitted from playing with Chris Paul who’s probably the best at setting up big men like Deandre. But the league was super weak at center at that time, he’s a good center in any era but looked like an elite one in that era. Very similar talent to Clint Capela/Deandre Ayton who Paul played with too.

did people call Kobe sloppy? He averaged 4.1 turnovers per game and only average 6 apg and Kobe was a shooting guard not a 6'11 center. I think if you look at the last 23 years, it'll be more common to see 7 footers having worse assist to turnover ratios in general this last season: Giannis 5.7 apg 3.9 TOpg Embiid (MVP) 4.2 apg 3.4 TOpg

@@justanobody0 There's no comparison to be made here, sorry. Kobe & Giannis have substantially more assists than turnovers; Cousins does not. In fact, he only had three seasons his entire career where assists outnumbered turnovers *at all*. You can say "well 7-footers tend not to have great assist-turnover ratios" - so maybe Cousins should have played more to his strengths. Also: consider that Cousins was generally not the primary ballhandler. Isaiah Thomas, Rajon Rondo etc would typically bring the ball up the floor. So per time spent actually handling the ball, Cousins's turnovers are even uglier.

Cousins was not making the playoffs let alone the conference semifinals with any of Embiid's rosters in any season except 2019, let alone getting out of the second round. Embiid had the 10-72 Sixers roster from 2015/16 at a 41-win pace as a rookie in 2016/17 when he played (even before Simmons also played) while Cousins had teams better than that going for 30 wins

​@@za5528 brother did you just use a 31 game sample size where he went 13-18 and largely beat lottery teams to say "41 win pace"? if you think cousins not making the playoffs with butler, simmons, tobias, and redick, ur delusional. he got one good player next to him and they looked dominant pre-injury

I mean your a kings fan lmao

You can't compare shooting across eras but you can compare a players true shooting to the league average at that time.Cousins mostly has negative or just about league average true shooting,compare that to Jokic who is shooting like 12% better than league average. PS:Kobe always shot better than league average in his prime.

You have Sabonis, you'll be just fine in the big man department for the foreseeable future.

First of all, there’s a small difference in terms of “era” Boogie was in the middle of his prime what 4 years ago? But that aside, I mention in the video that Boogie was around league average in efficiency, I was reffering to the league average at the time, not the average then (however that difference is marginal, bc again, really not that different of an “era”)

@@rustybuckets He was on the warriors and 2015 is what I think of when I think boogie’s prime. In the 2014-2015 or 2015-2016 season the league wasn’t as spread out. Boogie was playing alongside Cauley-stein or Jason Thompson. Once he got next to a good big he finally was able to get more efficient buckets. I don’t believe he’s better then both Embiid or Jokic but I think he’s a comparable talent and at his best is an elite big man just like them.

Joel and jokic could still make the playoffs with the teams he had

Joker won two MVPs without help. You’re talking out of your ass