PLEXUS DEEP DIVE | Products, compensation plan, and income disclosure statements explained

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@robinapalategui4472 2 жыл бұрын

I was an ambassador and hit a big rank and I can confirm all of this! The products are toxic, the culture is culty and toxic & the pay is horrible!!! When I hit my highest rank, my “average” was suppose to be $4500. Well my paychecks were only $1700 a month! After all that work! I’m so anti-MLM and I’m so thankful you make these deep dives for people to learn how this works!!!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experience Robin! So happy to hear that Plexus is a thing of your past ❤️

@lessthanahome 2 жыл бұрын

I got a bridge in California i can sell you

@MidnightAndLuna 2 жыл бұрын

This is why stories like your is so important. People assume that those higher rank earners make a lot of money. You’re one of many that has come and proved that to be incorrect. That and the ‘time freedom’. I’m glad you at MLM free and willing to tell your story. Thank you!

@sunny30427 2 жыл бұрын

I am a recent ex plexus ambassador and I agree. The income claims are way off!

@ypooopppppppppqasert 2 жыл бұрын

How are they toxic? I’ve had nothing but positive results from them. I love the triplex it has helped me a ton with my gerd, I don’t even feel like I have it anymore. My allergies are gone, I don’t bloat, I’m regular, my moods are way better, my anxiety is gone. Yah maybe the pay is off a little bit you can still make good money and the products are amazing who cares about the money. I share because it’s a life changer not because of the money.

@Allisonsaul 2 жыл бұрын

My theory: They don’t make you a “brand ambassador” until you’ve more or less made a sale (aka technically earned *some* income) because it boosts their income disclosure figures…. If you have to earn commission before you’re considered a distributor, there will be no zeroes in the averages for the first rank. All the people who try and can never make a sale (which is most) are never on the books to begin with. Sneaky.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree! I think that’s totally it! Very sneaky

@MaidMirawyn 2 жыл бұрын

That was my thought. If you’re only joining for the discount, you won’t show up with the ambassadors. So their income disclosure looks better on the surface than some other companies. On the other hand, it takes away the excuse that many of the ambassadors “only joined for the discount”-a favorite excuse for the low success rate. So it’s (probably unintentionally) a hair more honest. It also pushes newbies to sell immediately, which hooks them faster and more thoroughly. From what I’ve heard from ex-huns, it can be mentally hard to make that first sale.

@TedApelt 2 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@crpeoplemover 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent theory! What came to my mind, (and on a similar theme) was that one of the most cited red-flags for a pyramid scheme is that most of the sales stay "within" the company, and not to actual, outside consumers. Even though that is still exactly the case here, structuring the recruitment this way, with the "VIP customer" stepping stone, helps create the ILLUSION of real, outside-of-the-company customers.

@lenawiebe7366 2 жыл бұрын

this is what I was going to say. It's to make their income disclosure statement look better. There are a decent amount of people that would before this change sign up as ambassadors just to get the discount and never even try to earn anything... and they would have all been included in the bottom rank.

@ld7256 2 жыл бұрын

my sister is a serial MLM hopper and swears by the plexus drink even after her doctor told her to stop taking all the supplements. something people don't often consider when stacking ALL these supplements together, is the toll it takes on your liver and sometimes your heart. With Herbalife especially there have been studies published in medical journals about hepatotoxicity. Tread carefully with supplements babes!

@kristyrussell1748 2 жыл бұрын

Amen! I have a friend who is in 4 alone right now. It's sad.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Such a good point! So many of these supplements have more than 100% of the daily value for certain vitamins/minerals and then you stack several products on top of each other… yikes!

@perryegolson833 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo And doctors agree that there really is no benefit to taking for example 5 times your daily recommendation of Vitamin D or whatever. More isn’t really better. It doesn’t boost your body or your system in any way. It’s not really necessary. Our bodies produce the vitamins that we need to live just fine.

@thatfuzzypotato1877 2 жыл бұрын

The other problem is stuff binds together and then doesn't work. Coffee blockd absorption of ibuprofen, iron binds with calcium so neither get absorbed, essentially everything interferes with levothyroxine, iron needs vitamin c to absorb, calcium needs vitamin D, carafate will block proper breakd9wn of medications in the stomach, these are just some super common examples. So the reason docs ask patients about supplements is some will mess up your meds in ways neither label specifically tells you.

@ypooopppppppppqasert 2 жыл бұрын

My doctor said the triplex is amazing and told me it was perfectly fine to take it. It has helped me a ton with my gerd, anxiety, stress, bloating, allergies, I don’t even feel like I don’t have gerd anymore. You have to take it for a while to see results. :-)

@katiehoffmann7650 2 жыл бұрын

My ex's mom is in plexus and gave me 30 day supply to try of several different products. I started getting tremors, really bad migraines, kidney stones, and throwing up almost everything. She wanted to put me on her website for my 70 lb weight loss but I was losing weight because I was working a labor intensive job outside. Not from the plexus. I stopped taking it and everything went back to normal. I do not recommend any of their products AT ALL. Please don't take anything without physician supervision. It's so easy to wreck your health by taking the wrong things

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this important testimony!!!

@DocBree13 2 жыл бұрын

That’s so scary!

@lessthanahome 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on loosing the weight gorl!! Proud of you 👏

@tokiobabe99 2 жыл бұрын

That's scary! It would make a good mlm horror story submission though.

@chrissychriscross 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I’m so sorry you’ve had a horrible experience … I have an auto immune disorder and was sick in bed for months - it wasn’t until I got on triplex that I stopped vomiting - my blood work showed zero inflammation (after using for 6weeks) idk it’s helped me so much - my dr told me to keep taking them Bc how my blood work had improved

@Wolfnap313 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been an ambassador since about 2018 and regret it more every day. I do need to say that my wife used to have extreme migraines for decades and after about 5 weeks of the pink drink daily she completely stopped having them. That was the clenched for us to start selling. The most I ever made in a month was like $200 but I hated the selling and pushing it part. My up lines up line is a sapphire and makes a ton of money but we just can’t figure out how. I figured out she’d need like 900 people under her every month and it just doesn’t sound possible. We are not allowed to sell stuff on any online platforms which is where I made the most sales before being hit with cease and desist letters. I am about to quit plexus and this video sealed the deal. Thank you.

@rachelrabbbit2553 2 жыл бұрын

That Plexus Point part was like, when you find some obscure board game from the 80s at a thrift store and take it home, and then when you open it and read the instructions you realize why it was obscure and thrifted... Pardon me while I just put that part of the compensation plan in a closet and ignore it for the next 20 years because it intimidates me.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 I’m dying

@nicolecarter5367 2 жыл бұрын

This was the best break down deep dive of any mlm video that I have ever personally watched! Thank you for your work! I swear you need to be hired to give courses for “financial” classes at high schools and colleges on what to be aware of and how to avoid, scams, ect. I mean there is just no way to argue these points. It is what it is 💯.

@nicolecarter5367 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, unfortunately, it is hard to still convince someone’s that is already indoctrinated. However, you hit other people with this info/video that are unaware of what MLMs even are or people that may be getting hounded by a distributor and are on the fence , (givin they are in their right mind) ,there would be no way they would sign up!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Nicole!! This means so much to me, thank you!! I worked so hard putting this deep dive together so I really appreciate that feedback ❤️

@nicolecarter5367 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo it shows!

@DocBree13 2 жыл бұрын

I agree! She’s a natural professor (I used to be a professor, and she’s a better lecturer than I was)!

@Annamilgreen 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear how those old MLM companies, like Amway, Mary Kay or Avon dealt with market oversaturation and who they tried to target.

@emilyadenis Жыл бұрын

My dads coworker used to sell Mary Kay when I was a kid… she still sells it and I’m in my twenties.

@ChristinaFromYoutube Жыл бұрын

I don't remember Mary Kay ladies ever recruiting anyone. They were just a lady you knew that sold makeup. Every woman in our small town (my granny and mom included) bought Mary Kay from the same lady when i was little.

@lulahbelle970 5 ай бұрын

The book Mary Kay by Mary Kay Ash comes to mind

@chipmunkwarcry 5 ай бұрын

@@ChristinaFromKZfaqThey didn’t use to have an MLM structure. At some point (in the mid 2000s I think) they switched to the recruitment pyramid structure

@ChristinaFromYoutube 5 ай бұрын

@@chipmunkwarcry oh ok thank you! Bc I know there was only 1 Avon lady my whole childhood and teen years

@rondaherriott 2 жыл бұрын

Plexus is what sent me down the anti-mlm road. I had previously done the buying to support friends thing and knew I didn’t want to join anymore mlms (previously did partylite). A friend sent me a hey hon dm after sharing about a neurological disease I was diagnosed with. I’m sorry but no drink is going to make my cerebellum suck back up into my skull. Only surgery can help me. I raged but ignored her. This was her 3rd mlm that I know of.

@lisaflesher 2 жыл бұрын

I had an old neighbor who has been with Plexus 8 for years. I tried it a few years ago, the pink drink, probio 5, bio cleanse are the products I tried. My stomach was upset 24/7 and it didn’t help me poop. The pink drink tastes good but after I stopped using it, I realized how awful I felt while taking it. My headaches disappeared and just felt better over all. It’s definitely not worth the money but I did help my neighbor install a pool in her new house. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@ypooopppppppppqasert 2 жыл бұрын

It’s the detox phase, it’s not a quick fix. You have to take the right dose too. I take 2-4 probio5 each day and one bio cleanse. If you still can’t go you up your bio cleanse by one. They do help a ton, I’ve been on it for a couple years now almost and my gerd is gone it feels like, my allergies are gone, my bloating is gone, my constipation is gone, my anxiety is gone, my bloating is gone, so much I haven’t felt this healthy in years. There is always a detox phase, it’s cleansing the crap out of you. You didn’t get unhealthy over night so your not going to get healthy over night. She’s still taking it 8 years later because it’s a life changer. Even my skin, hair and nails are way better and healthier. Gut health is important. The ones that stay on it are the ones that see the true benefits of plexus. The ones that try it for a couple months and fall off because they don’t like the detox phase are the ones that think it doesn’t work but if you get through that phase it will change your life. The detox phase only lasted a week for me but everyone is different. It’s not about the money tho, I really don’t care, I would share it even if it wasn’t an MLM because it changes lives and has changed so many getting people off medications. :-)

@lisaflesher 2 жыл бұрын

@@ypooopppppppppqasert you sound like a true MLM hon. 🤦🏻‍♀️ hmmm, what’s that saying, if it sounds to good to be true….if it’s taken care of all you health issues than it wouldn’t be an MLM because doctors would suggest it to every patient. It’s just another expensive POS product. Upping the amount I was taking only made me feel worse. Taking a handful of pills multiple times a day is ridiculous.

@debymello4756 Жыл бұрын

The only "detox" that happens in the body are through kidneys and liver, miss hun. You're piching in the wrong crowd

@dixiech1ck Жыл бұрын

@@ypooopppppppppqasert scientist here: you don't need any kind of detox. Your body naturally detoxes itself. Detoxes are the biggest scam out there. You can achieve a full cleansing by drinking an ACV chaser in warm water.

@tammiebrown8317 Жыл бұрын

@@ypooopppppppppqasert if someone is still taking these supplements after 8 years then the root cause of the problem has not been resolved. No one should need to drink the pink drink everyday for the rest of their life.

@alisonrwolfe1980 2 жыл бұрын

Omg i am so happy you did this deep dive! I had a coworker message me at home a few years ago with the weird "hey hun" feel to her message... i live in an area that is majority mennonite and mlm businesses are huge here. Many people do several mlms at one time! So anyway... she messages me at home pushing this "pink drink". At the time, i was going through major thyroid issues. I had developed Graves' disease/ hyperthyroidism and seeing an endocrinologist. I was waiting to have RAI (radioactive iodine) treatment. She latched onto that and basically told me she could cure my thyroid. I told her i wasn't interested (in the very typical indirect passive Canadian way...) but she wouldn't give up. She said she could have me talk to the "plexus physician" to explain how it could help me... i ended up having to tell her my doctor didn't want me taking it. I've also had a SIL say she could "cure" my thyroid with young living oils and also had my work supervisor add her mlm drink samples in an envelope with my xmas bonus cheque!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

The PLEXUS PHYSICIAN?? Hahaha whaaat!

@alisonrwolfe1980 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo right!?!? That was my reaction too!

@Hexatomb 6 ай бұрын

Lol, there's no on-staff physician. There's just research people in the R&D area.

@jhjln8712 4 ай бұрын

I have chronic issues too so I’ve been pitched Plexus a number of times. It’s ridiculous the way they literally believe their products will cure you. I told one of them I was literally already taking the main ingredients from supplements recommended by my doctor and wanted to stick with that-which apparently she could not wrap her head around!

@TheBerkeleyBeauty 6 ай бұрын

I’m a narcissist’s worst nightmare because I refuse to “feed” them. They eventually get the picture and move on. I’m also an MLM distributor’s worst nightmare for the same reasons. I wonder how many MLM distributors are narcs.

@miaomiaochan Ай бұрын

Probably a frightening number. Same with CEOs. It takes a certain "type" to make it to the top in MLMs and in the corporate world, and that type is "ruthless".

@TheThriftyBroad 2 жыл бұрын

I did join this one out of sick curiosity 6ish years ago. That is also before I realized how bad MLM's actually are. I was recruited from someone on IG and immediately I was added to two Facebook groups and they definitely did a lot of hype and some love bombing etc. They also did these "giveaways" that seemed very contrived. I was smart and signed up with a credit card that was about to expire and never updated it when it did. I tried the items for about 60 days. The pink drink is disgusting and is super sweet and just made me not want to drink it. None of the products were magical in anyway. Just a bunch of overpriced vitamins lol that could really be toxic if taking too much of certain ones.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experience!

@MrBrittasaurusRex 2 жыл бұрын

My friend got sucked into Plexus a few years a go. She asked me to join, at the time I had never heard of MLMs so I didn't know how bad the business model. I wasn't going to join just because I didn't want to have to socialize enough to sell stuff to people on Facebook. She gave me a week sample of pink drink to try out and see if I liked it enough to sell. I said ok to give it a fair shake. When I say this drink gave me the worst heart burn of my life, it's an understatement. I felt like I was going to die. My heart was racing, my chest burned like I swallowed a flaming sword. I felt like I was going to throw up but it never happened. I told my friend what was happening to me and she said you have to drink a lot of water. I drank almost a gallon that day and it didn't even touch the hellscape that is Pink Drink. My friend was horrified about how badly the drink affected me, I think that was the first crack in the myth of Plexus, luckily she left them a few months later. Just thinking about it makes my chest hurt.

@breevestrand 2 жыл бұрын

Was a plexus ambassador back in December 2021-Jan 2022. I had just had a baby and was looking to lose the baby weight and get “natural energy”. Signed up and was stressed into posting and messaging tons and tons of people while taking care of a newborn and 1 year old. I told my upline (who I know personally) and was told you gotta use any spare moment you have. Anyone with two under two knows any spare time you have you rest, so I was exhausted and felt even worse but kept going. Made one sale off my mom who hated all the products except one and couldn’t justify the price so she never repurchased.I was messaged constantly like they were checking up on a friend and asked why i didn’t purchase or anything or post. I said I just can’t sell it I don’t want to nor do I have time to. And still was pressured to be a customer. I told my upline and her upline who both messaged me within 5 min of each other that I cannot afford the products and will not be purchasing. They even agreed that unless you’re selling the products it’s pretty expensive to purchase them continually. Also I had to buy more products to even get money from my moms sale. I spent maybe $300 in products and made around $30-40 in sales 🙃 best part is now that I’m not buying or selling she doesn’t message me at all. While I was “working the business” she messaged me almost everyday just to chat and what not, now nothing lol

@ReadAndThrift 2 жыл бұрын

A mom from a daycare I used to work at roped me in to trying plexus. I bought the pink drink and a few other things. I was so broke but felt bad telling her no so I bought stuff. I think she actually made me a preferred customer or something without my knowledge. I don’t think she does it anymore. She took some weird course on “breath work” that cost thousands and thousands and then got crazy and I blocked her haha. It’s really sad cause I loved her boys so much!

@Sm57204west 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for, not only showing the Lexus program per month, but also showing the total vs the actual cost. I hate when they say a "free" car. I haven't seen another content creator do that!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sammy!! The “free car” program is one of my favorite things to talk about because of how crazy it is

@Dlayne84 Жыл бұрын

So don’t get the car just use that $450 for something else.

@Sm57204west Жыл бұрын

@@Dlayne84 they can't....

@LeahAutumn 2 жыл бұрын

Wow best deep dive I've seen in a long time, Hannah the amount of time you put into these you need a medal, i love how you compiled your own charts and graphs it shows that you really care about showing people the real way these companies work. We don't deserve you !! keep it up girl :D

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Leah!! The sweetest comment, thank you! 🥰

@MaidMirawyn 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting tidbit from the Plexus help center… “The Plexus Compensation Plan…Allows Plexus to payout 50% of the company’s Commissionable Volume to Brand Ambassadors every month.” Did they just admit that a huge chunk of the cost is paying the seven or whatever tiers of reps? NOT quality?

@Hexatomb 6 ай бұрын

As an ex employee, yes. It is such a scam

@vanessavega8517 2 жыл бұрын

The moment I’ve been waiting for since you started the MLM content 💃🏻

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I remember you commenting Plexus as a suggestion a while back! I hope you enjoy! 🎉

@Mandypandy2012 2 жыл бұрын

Same! 👏🏼

@vanessavega8517 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo YES it was meeee! Last November 2020 I joined them to help my sister-in-law rank up, I even tried them and I did loose a few pounds but had a severe urticaria due to their products and they were more interested in recruiting people than admitting to the side effects their products gave. I was furious with the way their team neglected this. I told my sister-in-law to open her eyes on what these people where doing just to rank up. Plexus last year was new in Puerto Rico so they where cashing in on every opportunity. Like you say it’s a moment of timing rather than selling.

@meghanpeters5054 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that you can meet your PV requirements each month by paying for it yourself does not sit right with me. I think on the flip side of your point about it getting people into debt (or more debt), that setup also strikes me as giving people with more disposable income a distinct advantage and only further widening the income gap. And then that would make it even easier for those at the top to just keep buying their own PV, ranking up, selling the lifestyle, and being able to more easily recruit as a result. I didn't know much about Plexus before this video, but that PV fact alone is gross to me and in my opinion only further contributes to reducing more women's spending power rather than increasing it. Great video as always!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

That’s really great insight! Thanks Meghan!

@ElinWinblad 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if Walmart worked that way. Lol a cashier has to get so many customer points (check out) if they don’t get ppl in their line they can earn points via shopping x amount.

@jessicatelian4513 2 жыл бұрын

This was incredibly well-done and so informative! Thank you so much for all the work put into researching and compiling the information. (It also helps explain why every single one of the Plexus "ambassadors" I know gets so in your face at the end of each month... 🤪)

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Jessica! So happy it was informative 🥰

@tima2553 2 жыл бұрын

These deep dives may be my favorite type of videos and next up are mlm fails. Please more more deep dives!!!

@breannaculpepper9938 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh! I’m so excited about this one as I don’t know much about Plexus! As always, thanks for working so hard on your videos and being so informative!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

And thank YOU for watching Breanna! ❤️

@laharrell93 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the effort you put into making your videos ❤️

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Laura, this means so much to me! Thank you! ❤️

@laharrell93 2 жыл бұрын

Adding to say thanks for doing what you do! I turned on my KZfaq notifications just for you lol

@EmilyJeanBlatt 2 жыл бұрын

Not me over here refreshing until the new video pops up and then it’s a deep dive!! 🥳🤩💕

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

You’re too funny! 😂❤️

@EmilyJeanBlatt 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo lol I just love your videos they’re my time to myself! Another great deep dive, thank you so much!

@olliesGiGi 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this one!!!!

@kapowwapow Жыл бұрын

I rly love ur deep dives sm!! especially the ones where its not as popular (at least not in my country) like this one n the zyia one!!

@heatherframpton9693 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Hannah. My husband's older daughter was in Plexus when she was in undergrad level College, up to seven years ago. I remember that she had some ongoing digestive system issues and some Plexus products apparently helped her feel better. She hasn't mentioned to him having been involved with Plexus in more recent years. I told my husband about your videos, and "Did you know that Plexus is a MLM?" 😊 Of course, your explanation of MLM products cost so freaking much...including the "pink drink".

@floraflowers Жыл бұрын

I honestly heard that about some MLMs. I know people who use(d) Herbalife and said it works or that still use some Mary Kay products because they really like them, so it's not necessarily that all the products an MLM sells are complete garbage. I'll never forget something that someone once told me in relation to Herbalife - "their products are actually good, just don't get into selling for them". Though it's definitely a double edged sword; you *know* a business model is faulty and bad so you don't want to get into it, yet you support it by buying the products.

@amypetersen1668 7 ай бұрын

@@floraflowersI will say I buy Senegence makeup and sone of their skincare. I use the products because I like them and they do what they’re supposed to- which is last all day. But they’re not for my health. I don’t buy from companies that do health and wellness because they’re not FDA approved and have absolutely no oversight and No accreditation process. Supplements are like the Wild West and most don’t help and some cause harm. I have a friend who recently started selling plexus (she’s sold just about every MLM out there and tried to get me to buy them all). She told me plexus would help the inflammation of my fibromyalgia and help me sleep. She’s not a doctor and I’m under the care of a doctor for my fibromyalgia. If there were some magic thing to reduce the inflammation he would certainly tell me because he would like to see me suffer less. But there is no magic pill out there. So I’m fine with people selling and buying makeup, clothes, Scentsy, Colorstreet nails (which I also buy and have been approached to sell but I’m not interested). But when you get into health products I think it can be really dangerous. These “bio cleanse” type things scare me off too since I have IBS and I’d completely lose any control of it if I was taking something that makes me go!!

@katyr2382 2 жыл бұрын

Yay just snuggled into bed after a 4 hour train journey (and a similar one this morning), perfect

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Time to chill and relax! 🥰

@katyr2382 2 жыл бұрын

@@HannahAlonzo Definitely. Been a long day! Train at 5.40am and got home at 9.30pm but it was a lovely day seeing an old friend

@raychul33 2 жыл бұрын

Yas my favourite time of day, new video’s 🙌

@Sunset1705 2 жыл бұрын

Your hair and whole look is so pretty! Just found you and have been binging all your vids while I work (& subbed of course).

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

So happy you’re here Molly!! ❤️

@Darbae7 Жыл бұрын

I’m just obsessed with the workings of MLMs and I know people who are in them and don’t even realize it. Just found your channel so this is gonna be a great day. In business school we had to “help” Mary Kay with their sales and we just said don’t make it an MLM and more people will buy it

@1992lbug 2 жыл бұрын

This might be my least favorite MLM an old friend of mine was having so many medical issues, but she started using Plexus around the same time she finally started living a healthy lifestyle. She refuses to believe that eating healthy and the exercise she has been doing helped her.

@moriahjoi 2 жыл бұрын

So many friends have reached out to me about this product and I’m so glad this video confirms everything I’ve said! I’d love to see a video on Neolife too.. they are barely on KZfaq at all

@chucklehead.smitty 2 жыл бұрын

What a great deep dive. Your teaching skills shined here. Love the spreadsheet and graph!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Charleen!! ❤️

@Marasaorykgsm Жыл бұрын

Gotta love a queen with spreadsheets and graphs. Can't help but stan...

@katet6098 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I’ve been WAITING for this one

@Mandypandy2012 2 жыл бұрын

Yay!! I’m glad you are covering this one!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Me too! Thanks for watching Amanda! ❤️

@Mandypandy2012 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Just wow on the decrease in pay! Although I can’t say I’m surprised!

@silvialittlewolf 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thank you! I have a friend who is also in one of those cul-- sorry, MLMs. It's very similar to Plexus, only by a different name ("LifePlus"), which also claim to focus on health. She is so brainwashed by and entangled in this scam that it's really hard to talk normal with her; everything circles back to how important health is - which is actually true - and what we can do to improve our health. She's smart enough to not immediately cram their products down her opponent's throat but instead to engage them in a conversation about health without mentioning any products. And she can talk about this forever! Her whole world revolves around health - and consequently, LifePlus products - now. Very sad.

@TheBerkeleyBeauty 6 ай бұрын

My girl broke it DOWWWWN! Thanx for posting this.

@Starry_Skye22 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a background in Psychology (a Bachelor's degree) and two things came to mind when you mentioned that they now require you to be a customer first. First I thought maybe this was to have some sort of effect on their income disclosure statement... so now by not counting all the people who are just customers wouldn't it make their income disclosure for their actual ambassador number higher?? 🤔🤔🤔... and secondly I cannot for the life of me remember exactly what the term is for this kind of manipulation in Psychology so please if anyone knows comment it below but fraternities often use this technique by making they're member go through extensive hazing to make them think that the process of becoming a member was SOOO entirely worth their time and effort. In other words, most people don't want to admit they did all this embarrassing shit for nothing so they will say oh it was totally worth it to become a part of this group. I can't think of the actual term though that this type of manipulation would be called.....

@carieruiz2285 2 жыл бұрын

Commitment bias. I’ve heard this explained in terms of when you take your kids to the zoo/carnival/other expensive outing. Then they want food, souvenirs, etc. So you tell yourself, well I’ve already spent $X so I guess $20 more isn’t a big deal. I’ve also heard this framed in terms of opportunity cost. For example, you sign up for an expensive pottery class that’s non-refundable simply because your friend asks you to. You have no interest in pottery. You friend gets sick and can’t go, but you go anyway simply because you’ve already paid for. When honestly, it’s okay to chalk that up to peer pressure and stay home because you hate pottery. The opportunity cost is losing out the time that you could have done something else you enjoy with that time, but you feel pressured to go because you already paid for it.

@carriepinkduck 2 жыл бұрын

Sunk cost fallacy

@denia1594 4 ай бұрын

Watching this straight after the interview with your friend 😊

@kristyrussell1748 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who has sold and taken the pink drink for at least a year, it's not magic 😂

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for confirming!!! 😂

@starrynight2600 2 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of kool aid... And we all know what happens when people drink the “kool-Aid” lol 😂

@MashaRistova 4 ай бұрын

Yeah we know lol. What a waste of money. How did you fall for it?

@aimeedolinac759 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for doing what you do.

@chibimistress7445 2 жыл бұрын

This compensation plan with the points is so confusing. And I love your videos. So hooked and love how you so easily explain these MLMs and why not to join them.

@haydenfreese6076 2 жыл бұрын

I've got to say that it's insane how many MLM ads I receive on your videos LOL

@zuzankabuzanka Ай бұрын

Hi Hannah, i LOVE your videos, deep dives and influencer insanity❤ I'd love to see deep dive of juice plus

@jhjln8712 4 ай бұрын

I have chronic illnesses so I’ve been pitched Plexus an absurd number of times 🙄. I researched the products as much as I could (which, 8 years ago was much harder than it should have been to find the ingredients) and found that I was literally already taking the same things, on recommendation from my doctors. Which I told the seller, who STILL tried to shame me for not wanting to switch to buying from her.

@Talkingdaisy-no6nu Жыл бұрын

I started taking Plexus because a friend recommended it. After a few months I went and canceled my subscription. No word of a lie, I got a text 5 mins later from my friend asking why I was canceling. It was so awkward!

@zosiazosh 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I've been waiting for another video!

@Tiffbishop2 Ай бұрын

I know someone that sells for plexus and she recently posted on Facebook about how she loved researching all the ingredients that are in her products because each ingredient was added for a specific purpose to promote life change. And she attached a picture of her laptop on the Google Home Screen to show her research. 😂 no actual photo of the research or ingredient information that she found, it was just a photo of her Home Screen. I laughed so hard.

@AlexisTwoLastNames 2 жыл бұрын

now i need to know if plexus named themselves before or after deciding on the lexus car as their reward lol

@HeyHonHorror 9 ай бұрын

Oh, that change sounds a lot like a change Amway made toward the end of my time there. They were facing increased scrutiny from the FDA and so they required a minimum amount of sales before you could sponsor people. (No worries, though... our upline taught us how to fake the customer volume by getting a second cell phone...)

@TheSixtenCat 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t for my life understand how somebody thinks that the car program in any mlm is a good thing and something you want to do. It’s so obvious a bad seat to be in and a negative thing for you to do. Someone else, who’s not paying or owning the car is the one telling you what kind of car you can have! It’s absolutely ridiculous. If i decide to take out an expensive car it sure as hell would be a car that I want and the color I want, not by anyone else’s choice. And what a massive stress that would be to have hanging over your head all the time, to not know month by month if you can pay for your car or not. Those car programs in any mlm is one of the worst things you can get yourself involved in. And I do also dislike health and wellness MLMs, please people, eat great food and move your body, that’s the best way to great health. Shoving pills and drinks down your throat will never be a good thing. Check your status at the doctors if you are worried and the doctor can tell you if you are lacking something important in your body that you need to have more of, most often by food and sometimes by supplements, but then your doctor can recommend the right ones for you.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Agree with all of this!

@seattlegirl2077 Жыл бұрын

Never heard of this MLM before - thank goodness - but still interesting and informative. Thanks.

@lousimmons13 Жыл бұрын

Jessica Hickson does a really great job explaining how the downlines work for anyone that is interested in learning more about the legs, compensation, etc.

@alyshamitchell8992 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a deep dive on Nerium? My aunt has been involved with them for years and tries to convince our entire family it's the best thing that has ever happened to her.

@robynneRN 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really interesting video showing how extinction in MLMs works. I am curious to see how long they last!

@ArtisanAsteroid 11 ай бұрын

Funny how I visited my aunt a week ago and saw Plexus boxes, now I was recommended this video! So far I have no idea whether she is in the mlm or just buying the products, but I didn't say anything. I never heard her on a call about Plexus fortunately. She seems to at least have a legitimate job as a tech consultant, but it's a dismal feeling when you realize your family members are wasting money on an mlm.

@kristyrussell1748 2 жыл бұрын

This is gonna be a good one!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy!

@Dreaming5 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see what the accounts administration department looks like at Plexis. How on earth do they work out what each person’s cheque is each month!

@Sewingistherapy 2 жыл бұрын

Because this an older video, I don't know that you will see this comment. But there is a sad story here I know of. A former friend got sucked into this with promises that it would cure her infertility. She desperately wants to have a baby and she's bought it hook line and sinker. I thought she'd eventually give it up when she saw that it wouldn't work, but she's actually doubled down. After 3 ish years of being sure she would get pregnant, she still hasn't but has actually had more medical issues. And she started pushing the products on her one daughter who now gets "randomly" sick all the time. Like at least once a month for a week and nobody can seem to figure out why this poor 8 year old is sick all the time. It breaks my heart, but she's uninterested in hearing anything bad about Plexus.

@wendybrown500 Жыл бұрын

The “pink drink” gave me Dyshidrotic eczema that took me months and months to discover and heal. I am still sensitive to certain things as a result of my exposure to the ingredients in the pink drink.

@Pippa87 2 жыл бұрын

Doing my morning workout whilst I treat myself to this deep dive x

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Love that!

@mrsz1988 2 жыл бұрын

I did this in 2014. The pv was amazing and it was before they changed the pink drink. I had 7 people under me. They loved it and I loved it. I was making decent money and I really believed in it as me and my peeps were seeing results. I stopped because I was hearing bad things about the ingredients. The more I researched the more I realized I could no longer do this so I stopped but I believe had I continued I would have been very successful., but those lawsuits and the fact that it was banned in other countries I just couldn't

@libertymedicalcommunicatio4908 2 жыл бұрын

The word for ‘magic pill’ that you are looking for is ‘panacea’

@laharrell93 2 жыл бұрын

What a great word to keep in my back pocket, thank you!

@sumayyahmussa1860 2 жыл бұрын

Love this channel

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support!

@pattyfranks7855 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of many of many I’ve fallen for

@ScarlettKay494 2 жыл бұрын

There’s no way the FTC is okay with them only including the top 10% on the income disclosure, right!??

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

I’m honestly not sure! I will have to look into it! I’m not sure what the rules are (or if there are any) because there’s some MLMs that don’t release income disclosures at all 😬

@lmsmith015 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard that the income disclosures are technically voluntary, so I'm not sure if the FTC has any say in that :(

@perryegolson833 2 жыл бұрын

@@lmsmith015 If you are a publicly traded company you are required to produce an income disclosure statement. Otherwise no MLM would ever do it, that’s for damn sure. But this tactic of only showing the top 10 percent of the company is very sneaky and they will probably get away with it…………for now.

@jaszminworron257 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy these deep dives. I’ve had several friends and family members fall victim to various MLMs. I wish I could show them these videos but the typical hun mindset would cause a riot. I’d really like to see a deep dive in Epicure. I haven’t seen any of the anti MLM channels I follow do this one yet. My sister in law was a distributor for a while but she finally quit (not because she wasn’t making but because she needed to focus on becoming a mother) *cough* yeah okay. I’m in Canada so I think Epicure is more popular here than in the United States. I could be wrong though

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Jaszmine! I’m glad you enjoy them! And you know, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Epicure!

@jaszminworron257 2 жыл бұрын

They are all about spices and “fast, easy and healthy cooking” without the added sodium. They are just over priced seasonings and cooking supplies I can get from Walmart for a fraction of the price

@MagicLights555 2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, they probably changed the qualification to become a brand ambassador for the same reason Lula Roe changed their bonus structure: With Lula Roe, consultants originally would get a bonus based on the number of people who signed up below them. But that was too much like a pyramid scheme, so then they changed it to being based on the number of items actually sold. With Plexus, giving brand ambassadors bonuses every time they recruited someone is too much like a pyramid scheme. But if the "recruits" are required to become customers first, then it "looks" less like a pyramid scheme, because: "Look! We get bonuses based on getting CUSTOMERS!" That, and 100% what Allison Saul said below! It makes their compensation plan look slightly less dismal.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@aechawk Жыл бұрын

How can anyone say it is not a pyramid scheme when you look at the income disclosure?

@karitouchette4173 19 күн бұрын

My sister in law is a Plexus Ambassador and she really believes their products cure and helps with issues. I don't really buy much but I do like a couple of their items like the active powder but that's about it.

@watercolorsandcoffee4057 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking back to how a plexus slim ambassador ENCOURAGED me to buy a sample pack at 13 YEARS OLD because i was on the chubbier side. I remember only being able to afford like three days of samples because we didn’t have a lot of money

@floraflowers Жыл бұрын

I was approached by a Herbalife hon on the street because I've always been on the chubbier/overweight side. When I told her I was comfortable the way I was (even though I wasn't, I just lied so she'd get off my back), she was really perplexed, like how dare I not be miserable enough to want to give her "amazing" products a shot? She still made her pitch and I only filled out the contact form she had given me so I could go my way. She blew up my phone for the next few days until I blocked her. I was a self-conscious 16-years-old when this happened and I do remember this encounter every now and again, more than a decade later. It's disgusting how some hons prey on people's insecurities and you *know* some of them are fully aware that they're being toxic.

@tealthompson9535 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Do you have a deep dive on Modere. It feels like they’re picking up steam over here in OC, CA.

@shanncimakasky6836 2 жыл бұрын

I love your hair . How do you get those beautiful curls ? They look so pretty & professional.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Aw thank you! I use the Nume Classic Curling Wand, the 25mm barrel size

@MkE1121 Жыл бұрын

If these really do boost the immune system - they would be tragic for autoimmune disease. Autoimmune disease is an over reaction of the immune system that is targeting parts of the body that belong. When you boost the immune system - you boost the antibodies that attack the healthy parts of the body. For me - it's muscles. If you boost my immune system you will worsen - not improve my muscle strength. Autoimmune diseases are treated by SUPPRESSING the immune system *NOT* Boosting them!! We take drugs known as "immunosuppressive" therapy, oral chemotherapy, and steroids to suppress the immune system. It is CRAZY that they are marketing an immune booster to treat autoimmune disease!! Not only that but several AI diseases have the potential for fatality ...

@larissabrglum3856 2 жыл бұрын

I knew somebody who was in Plexus. This was before I knew the problems with MLMs, but something always struck me as fishy about the claims that the product was some sort of panacea and the frequent out-of-character social media posts with lots of emojis.

@jilliansnyder7959 2 жыл бұрын

I’d really like to see you do a deep dive on Avon or Mary Kay because they too are technically MLM and have been around forever

@vitisxvinifera 2 ай бұрын

I’d like to see those too! Also Tupperware, pampered chef, and party lite.

@sherridevries9144 Жыл бұрын

Would love one on It Works

@SkullsLuvbugs 2 жыл бұрын

I have auto immune diseases yes I said diseases. And I can’t tell you how many times I have been hit up with supposed cures. Makes me very angry .(used to make me cry)

@caelanreeves7018 2 жыл бұрын

for the ppv it seems like plexus points have a fluctuating value based on the company's total liquidity pool (the amount that the company has in capital) almost like a currency, so you have a set number of plexus points based on your downline's profit but that could wildly fluctuate in actual worth

@erinw8787 2 жыл бұрын

Very well done! I thought plexus was the one obsessed with ketones ? PS you look gorgeous in red xx

@meredithszymanski4720 2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s Pruvit!

@erinw8787 2 жыл бұрын

@@meredithszymanski4720 oh yeah ! You are right x

@valdezaimee6 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@nikkilovesbooks27 2 жыл бұрын

Your deep dives are amazing. PLEASE do one on It Works! I've been very interested in it but never found an actual deep dive on it.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

On my list! ❤️

@tamaravanvoorst448 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this! I know a couple huns! Ugh

@palanna3239 2 жыл бұрын

180 dollars for tinny drinks? 😲 For 90 dollars i buy good quality food for a month.

@EmilyJeanBlatt 2 жыл бұрын

OMG I wish I could buy food for a month for $90!! Our family groceries come to about $800/month for a family of three. But I get what you’re saying. Those drinks would be 22% of our monthly food budget!

@DazeInn 2 жыл бұрын

I love you! it’s like you won’t give me a graph? Fine I’ll just make my own!

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I WILL get to the bottom of these cryptic numbers 😂

@foreverhomepetrescue 2 жыл бұрын

WIth all these MLMs, if it's "your business" are you able to write off mileage and business expenses (which SHOULD include your signing fees)? How does that work with MLMs?

@alishap8036 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a Color street one. My mom just joined. Ugh.

@kellyturner4629 8 күн бұрын

Can you make a video about Mary Kay and Amway? I would love to find out more information about those two MLMs

@mrsmerily 2 жыл бұрын

One thing that people also forget, the market of what most MLMs offer is saturated also. There are so many supplament, weightloss and beauty mlm and they are kind of fighting over the same people who are willing either buy overpriced crap or be part of opportunity. So yeah, they can say everyday hundreds of people turn 18, but honestly even if they are even "mlm" minded there are so many mlms to choose from... fun thing tho... none of them oppurtunity is not better than others... but still...saturated.

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Such a great point!

@nicolenutter9108 2 жыл бұрын

I saw a shared Plexus post that said the products improved/fixed a veteran’s PTSD! Smart lady who shared it too. So dangerous and predatory.

@bluegrassartstudio4790 Жыл бұрын

Tried plexus for my anemia. All I got was worse heartburn

@LisaHarvey16 Жыл бұрын

That is not good.

@starrynight2600 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video about MLM sellers who prey on those of us who are sick with autoimmune diseases or chronic pain sufferers? I HATE that MLM people are constantly try to sell me their over priced and over promised cures that never work. I suffer from fibromyalgia and lupus type symptoms and it’s so hurtful that these sellers try to make a profit off of my illnesses ! Not only do they don’t work but it also costs a fortune and many of us sick people cannot afford their overpriced items. I cringe when my friends who start selling MLM products message me because I feel pressured to buy when I know what they are selling isn’t going to cure me and even if it did I simply couldn’t afford to be buying their stuff for the rest of my life.

@eloisepharmacist 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely - I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome that comes with chronic pain and other conditions. I'm so fed up of all these "cures" for my genetic conditions!!

@mobabyhomeslice Жыл бұрын

So... what I've come to realize through this is that pretty much all MLM "business opportunities" are just complicated and convoluted rebate programs for people who get suckered into believing in the product.

@christinaannh 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I don’t think you mentioned was the fact that if you do not hit your own PV requirements for the month, then you will not reap any benefits underneath you. For example I had 3 people underneath me, if all 3 made orders that month and reached their PV requirements, that was still not enough for me to make mine, so I would have to spend at least $130 to reach my PV requirements to even receive the small amount earned by the people signed up underneath of me. Now it has been a few years since I was part of plexus, but that is how it worked when I was in it.

@Dlayne84 Жыл бұрын

It’s changed. Now you get PV for VIP customers as 25pv, and points. And ambassadors don’t have to have 100 PV to get points. But yes to get qualified

@Dlayne84 Жыл бұрын

It’s changed. Now you get PV for VIP customers as low as 25pv, and points. And ambassadors don’t have to have 100 PV to get points. But yes to get qualified. It’s been life changing because the people that just get 1 thing, it matters.

@ChrisSandyShow 2 жыл бұрын

The becoming a customer first is to show they have more customers. They know most people will never bring one brand partner on so they keep you as a customer even though you are trying to be a brand partner This is the new way for companies to show the FTC, see we have more customers than brand partners when in reality many of those customers want to be brand partners. I am guessing eventually the FTC will catch on to this new approach

@HannahAlonzo 2 жыл бұрын

Yes this could totally be it! Good point!!

@juliehowman3912 Жыл бұрын

With regards to the company requirements that one needs to be a VIP customer first is that they are trying to minimise the statistics regarding to ambassador retention. Someone who naturally generates sales is worthy of meaningful coaching and further encouragement to recruit etc. a lot of the mlms appear to be changing and it is my belief that they are trying to disassociate themselves from being a ponsy