Well now you know what you’ve gotta do. Characters Who became way stronger AFTER a buff
@mrstudent91255 ай бұрын
Mk11 Kano.
@ForeskinTim5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Kotal
@flipsvstheworld5 ай бұрын
MKX Mileena and Kitana getting numerous buffs per patch was aids lol
@boltz955 ай бұрын
Mkx takeda/kung lao
@goldenhydreigon47272 ай бұрын
MK11 Shao Khan
@Azteck95 ай бұрын
Scorpion did his job in Injustice. Sold DLC like nuts and then nerfed after the quota was met.
@jaydickson63045 ай бұрын
I remember when Scorpion had 4/5 top 8 placements at CEO, but because he didn't land 1st place, it was seen as "See, he isn't that good, what is all the complaining about?"
@i.theworstguys2985 ай бұрын
same thing happened to diddy kong in ssb4. had nothing but hella high tier placements but most tournaments were won by sheik or rosalina so ppl were convinced he wasn’t broken
@glacierwolf21555 ай бұрын
Same thing is happening nowadays with Ramlethal in Strive. Has the tools to win a major tournament, has yet to win one.
@Skkra5 ай бұрын
Poor Slips, he got robbed of a character haha
@isaacflask5 ай бұрын
@@i.theworstguys298oh man, diddy kong hoo hah. Such a classic
@Ecdemaniac5 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen 1 patch completely slaughter a single character more than that Scorpion patch. That’s the fastest I’ve seen a character flip from top to bottom
@5higuy5 ай бұрын
I’d say he’s switch tier
@Made187x5 ай бұрын
@@5higuyterrible quote, don’t talk anymore please
@rayhoyer48295 ай бұрын
They gave scorpion the kane treatment.
@rayhoyer48295 ай бұрын
@@MaacMaliceMMA yes it is!
@WalkBesideMe5 ай бұрын
Scorpion in the first Injustice has to be the most egregious nerf for sure. One month, broken beyond belief and then a month later, gutted like a fish.
@Postcoital_Clarity5 ай бұрын
😂
@MegaZeta5 ай бұрын
Doesn't really surprise me. If I were Time Warner, inaugurating what was clearly intended to be a new series built around TW intellectual property and some sort of multimedia event... and then the Mortal Kombat character becomes all anyone can talk about in word-of-mouth for the new game... I would elbow NRS hard in the ribs. Maybe that happened
@Pichufan1725 ай бұрын
Scorpion got the Blizzard treatment
@gavinhazan14154 ай бұрын
What a way to describe a downfall I love it
@SyRose9013 ай бұрын
Or the Valve treatment. Not that Valve has fallen off, but that Valve nerfed TF2 weapons into nearly unusable tiers.
@Pikasprey5 ай бұрын
I actually remember giving Injustice 2 a chance because I thought Deadshot's trailer looked cool. Then I played the game at launch as him, and was hated by everyone until I stopped wanting to play, lol.
@leonardobolivar4403Ай бұрын
Lol, I literally remember you because of the pfp with the checkboard pattern, hope you keep making cool videos dude
@k2h8735 ай бұрын
I think MK 1 Sbuzero should've been included in the list 'cause after the release of the game, NRS butchered the character
@dominiquerosemond5682Күн бұрын
The oddest thing is that he wasn't THAT good to have nerfs in the first place
@nocandoslurms4335 ай бұрын
I remember what a sad day it was when Supergirl got nerfed. One of the rare instances where I dropped a character because of nerfs.
@Theus_Apollyon5 ай бұрын
You mean the walking laser nerf?
@nocandoslurms4335 ай бұрын
@@Theus_Apollyon There was more than that. Her d1 was increased to 9 frames on startup. It's hard to get pressure off you when that's your fastest crouching move. She had another nerf, I can't remember what.
@MILDMONSTER12345 ай бұрын
The only other character I’m aware of that’s been gutted as badly as IJ Scorp is probably Sean from Street Fighter 2nd impact going into 3rd Strike
@BonesAnalises5 ай бұрын
I love how, when they Specify NRS instead of MK, you know Injustice is coming up
@CYGAMESCC25 ай бұрын
VIDEO GAMES!!!!!!!
@SpikeSpoogle5 ай бұрын
YES SIR!!!!!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯
@snack_bar24745 ай бұрын
yeah?
@ShabungalooTheStinky5 ай бұрын
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RyanStansberry5 ай бұрын
*_ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!_*
@WhereThereIsSmoke5 ай бұрын
Good statment
@SidneyMosley5 ай бұрын
I'm here to once again Request Competitive history of Liu Kang
@IWish25005 ай бұрын
A little surprised MKX Alien wasn’t mentioned
@glacierwolf21555 ай бұрын
Isn't Xenomorph still in top tier after the patches?
@mr.soystein78495 ай бұрын
Maybe the nerfs weren't that devastating. Acidic is still solid, but Alien mains usually go for Konjurer nowadays.
@IWish25005 ай бұрын
I probably should have specified the Acidic variation. It may not have been the wildest patch, but the drop of Acidic players was wild
@PNDKM5 ай бұрын
Alien was still good, people mostly dropped alien because alien being broken was the ONLY reason they used the character
@KermaFrost5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Jason and Tremor just chilling seeing the nerf chaos
@nikehaddhtv15465 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the Mk1 Subzero
@georgesears9345 ай бұрын
0:58 I'm gonna stop you right there, it's MK11 Geras. He got nerfed EVERY. SINGLE. PATCH. All of them. There is no way there's a character with more nerfs by pure numbers. It's Geras, hands down. And all they were able to do was drop him from +S to +A. He was THAT fundamentally solid and played MK1 that well. And of kourse, who kould forget the nerfs that accidentally buffed him, like the infamous change to sandtrap's KB requirement that allowed you to effectively get it on kommand whenever you wanted rather than it being in your opponent's kontrol? Very fitting for the reanimating strongman!
@leonardobolivar4403Ай бұрын
Did you watch the part where he says that this is not a top about the most nerfed characters, right? And also, did you watch the part where he says that Geras was being nerfed in every single patch in one way or another?
@sammythijs86415 ай бұрын
Geras is an interesting one though. Even after the nerfs he received, till this day he plays MK11 very well. Yes, he was used a lot less in tournament but he’s still solid. Btw, I really liked this video man👍🏻 I’d love to see a video about most significant buffs in Mortal kombat games. Doesn’t mean that characters shot up to top tier but they were helped drastically. Just some ideas top of my head: Injustice1 Bane venom buff reworked to add armor to specials, which would carry over to Inj2 Commando Kano’s new 22 string and b14 MB launcher in MKX . MKX Takeda gaps in his mid strings reworked MkX Jason dmg buff reworked to break armor. Mk11 Kollektor changes to 44 string Mk11 Kano changes to f12b2 string, changes to chemical burn Mk11 Noobs low slide buff
@DrOmnipotent5 ай бұрын
Geras also was the only character who has his MOVEMENT nerfed. Ouch. 😂 Great video ggs
@djkillermemestar12654 ай бұрын
Mk11 sonya also was sad. She was so cool in the early days then died after early nerfs, even took life away from her and never gave it back. And yeah they hit supergirl pretty hard.
@BallinBoy0085 ай бұрын
You guys are always posting interesting MK content
@LeviB695 ай бұрын
Love looking at these had no idea during mkx and games b4 and the changes
@franklinfiqueroa68835 ай бұрын
You forgot about Sonya in MK11
@robdavideogamer41194 ай бұрын
The idea that a game had a competitive scene but no one knew what frame data was, where as all the other popular fighting games have been talking about frames for god knows how long is kind of hilarious.
@neoconnor43955 ай бұрын
I almost forgot how beast-like Geras was in MK11..
@zacharywidmoyer49545 ай бұрын
I think Kung Jin Bojutsu would’ve been worth mentioning. He went from literally number one in MKX (half the Fatal 8 tournament was bojutsu Kung Jin) to bottom 5 in the game.
@mappybc60975 ай бұрын
If different versions of the same game count, I would argue the nerfs to Sean Matsuda from SF3 Second Impact to Third Strike give Injustice Scorpion's title of most nerfed character in fighting game history a run for its money. Grabted, he didn't receive as many nerfs as Scorpion did, but the ones he got were way worse than anything NRS did to Hanzo. I'm talking bs on the level of removing the ability to combo from one of his specials, making a projectile super's start up so slow that opponents could react to the screen freeze and flash effect with a jump in and punish it, and, I'm not making this up, having one of his specials be unsafe *on hit.* Some people who only played Third Strike used to think he was designed as a joke or meme character, when it fact he had been the undisputed best character in the game a version prior.
@lordflashheart37414 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he wasn't the best character in 2I. Top 3, sure, but I would argue Akuma was even more ridiculous.
@mappybc60974 ай бұрын
@lordflashheart3741 It was always up for debate. If you look up different tier lists for the game, it's either Akuma, Ibuki, or Sean at the top. Imo Sean deserves #1 simply because Akuma has the health of a mosquito, and Ibuki takes actual skill to play.
@theMoseph235 ай бұрын
Love seeing Injustice getting some attention! Keep up the great videos!
@smithly-fgc2 ай бұрын
i mained deadshot in injustice 2 and picked up supergirl because that matchup was so bad and figured i'd fare better in a mirror, then deadshot got nerfed about 80 times and i was like "i guess i'll just play supergirl now" but i always missed deadshot and was sad that he got decimated
@ryanrowe19755 ай бұрын
Adjustments can be changed to appearing with Kano and characters to appearing at the tournament appearance
@marsbitrona59205 ай бұрын
This one must have required some serious research to get specifics on patches and community reactions going back over ten years. Great video!
@mrstudent91255 ай бұрын
I hope to see competitive history of Shang Tsung some day.
@kylenguyen73715 ай бұрын
8:53 The Nerf-ening!
@raybaann5 ай бұрын
Flame Fist Liu Kang with armored EX FBF4 and shaolin flame cancel without meter 🤤 good old times
@isaacflask5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy too that flame fist is like top 3-5
@boredomkiller995 ай бұрын
Let's not forget deadshot also had really stupid mix ups that could lead to combos. A common complaint was he had too good of a close range game for how good his zoning was.
@Skkra5 ай бұрын
Good old Somberness. The legend. I miss MK9.
@jayberry49884 ай бұрын
I’ve never zoned with deadshot I’m a rush down type of player and that hasn’t failed with him
@Jean_Pierre_Wehry5 ай бұрын
MK9 Kano brings back memories. I was a Kano main and he was an absolute beast online. MK9 was something special. My online Ranked record was like 700/150
@hotzemusic5 ай бұрын
Somewhere, Tom Brady is seething over the overlooked day 1 patch that killed sub zero's B2 reset in Mk9
@coytheboyy5 ай бұрын
Can’t believe they nerfed IJ Scorpion and Deadahot but left Martian Manhunter and Starfire the same
@twinodoom5 ай бұрын
15:18 MK1 Sub Zero's felt that
@damiangallo41855 ай бұрын
Cryomancer sub in mkx?
@saloz94835 ай бұрын
To be honest 1:13 is the reason why the tourney scene can be kind of repetitive since you usually see the same characters over and over again. Its rare if anyone picks a character they actually like.
@arrownoir5 ай бұрын
Nerfs create nostalgia.
@CaraDeMossoro5 ай бұрын
Crazy Kano ball
@minisquirtle97025 ай бұрын
As a casual Deadshot player, i just think he has some cool looking combos and like his character here. And not just zoning i mean like actual combos he and Dr Fate are just stylish for no reason
@LordDioBrandoTheWorld4 ай бұрын
Shao Kahn has FIVE L’s throughout just MK1 alone absolutely ridiculous
@Hndshks5 ай бұрын
Wasn't there an MKX major where something like 6 players out of the top 8 were using Kobu-jutsu Tanya? Then one patch later we almost never saw Tanya again.
@feckernever8flakes5 ай бұрын
I remember when the Geras nerfs happened and a lot of people regarded them as buffs since they gave him a lot of Krushing Blows at the end of combos. I didn't realize that the competitive community actually regarded them as the nerfs they really were
@djkillermemestar12654 ай бұрын
I thought Mk11 Sheeva would be here. They murdered that character
@DzungLongVN5 ай бұрын
Injustice Scorpion was basically erased out of existence lol
@JustinKeithD5 ай бұрын
I understand that money is on the line and to NOT pick these characters when your opponents will be is putting yourself at a disadvantage... But it just goes to show that people will always flock to the most braindead, overpowered character. The ONLY time I accept the strength of a character is when they are difficult to use. I remember being so pissed off at all the Kabals in MK9 that I decided to try him out. He was HARD to use. I kinda shut my mouth after that.
@Shootatsite5 ай бұрын
hmm I feel like Johnny or Jacqui is gonna be mentioned
@luminary68185 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched yet but no way Demolition Sonya isn’t on here
@Finnjah5 ай бұрын
what song is this at 0:13
@adre2k25 ай бұрын
White Field from Fighting EX Layer
@megazerox_gaming5 ай бұрын
As soon as you mentioned deadshot i nearly choked on my soup!!!😨
@sobhanamini37765 ай бұрын
I would say mkx tanya and Quan chi also had many many nerfs that were huge
@sonjawusky86135 ай бұрын
I don’t think I ever saw such a brutal fall from grace quite like what happened to Injustice Scorpion. I get he was strong early on, but I feel they went a bit far.
@Jeff-jz5sf5 ай бұрын
The biggest nerf though bar none is Shinnok. Going from literally untouchable to…..yeah…
@blesstv89945 ай бұрын
Nice vid Ketchup
@zadornov1285 ай бұрын
Geras remained broken despite all the ‘nerfes’. His broken d1 was free to mash against almost all the characters, its 6 frames startup was the issue, not the recovery frames in any way
@wizardgamehubz5 ай бұрын
Great NRS signatures 👌 👏 this title tells me all the fun characters NRS has killed
@insertnamehere7228Ай бұрын
Mk1 peacemaker should make it in here lmao.
@tdummy10945 ай бұрын
Great vid
@silversnakekp5 ай бұрын
i know a character who was horribly nerfed, not gameplay/damage output-wise, but more so designwise
@GITW_335 ай бұрын
Damn feels good to be early
@Dunbeezytv5 ай бұрын
TO THIS DAY!!!!
@spawnytheistic5 ай бұрын
Deadshot and Superman in injustice 2 genuinely made me question nrs’ ability to make a game. I genuinely adore injustice 2 but I can’t understand how they thought the zoning in the game was acceptable. Injustice 2 was the first fighting game I ever went “pro” with. I won an injustice gods among us tournament, I have a lot of love for the franchise but the zoning is unforgivable bruh.
@rushiuppu41805 ай бұрын
whats the music playing during the kano segment?
@NetherDeity5 ай бұрын
Damn,still remember how they cut my Scorpion...poor Hanzo
@austinely86975 ай бұрын
Competitive history of Scorpion!
@HyperFoxx5 ай бұрын
Mk11 Geras was so badass
@irlredline7965Ай бұрын
Peacemaker can join this list now
@DatBoyJamesАй бұрын
I was just thinking that lol
@mrstudent91255 ай бұрын
Mk11 Sheeva comes to mind
@mostverticalproductions48085 ай бұрын
I miss MKX. I wish it still had side events, such an insane game.
@alexstark76205 ай бұрын
Too broken kombos
@olumideadanri5575 ай бұрын
I'm comment number 11 and like number 101 so please answer this question for me. What the background music track in this video? It's hitting me hard in the nostalgic part of my brain but I can't place it beyond a ps1 ps2 era game, maybe Marvel vs Capcom or something. Anyways, Please tell me. Huge fan of your channel and FGC tournament commentry .
@PNDKM5 ай бұрын
Street Fighter EX2 Plus
@olumideadanri5575 ай бұрын
Guess I'm gonna play it now. Thank You@@PNDKM
@KoryRedd5 ай бұрын
HM : Inj2 Aquaman
@coreypendergrass53555 ай бұрын
Kan y'all please make a Kompetitive History of Scorpion 🦂? 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
@benjwillo5 ай бұрын
Erron black in both games he has been is has been abused by nerfs compared to his day 1 releases.
@DemonKingHiei5 ай бұрын
Can you do Amazing Buffs next?
@augustoruschel62955 ай бұрын
what about sheeva’s stomp nerf in mk11? 😭😭 no one has ever used her again after that
@mrstudent91255 ай бұрын
Are there dramatic buffs?
@treezanyone5 ай бұрын
Dealing with Inj2 the 1st couole months was stressful 😅
@Jago-pl7op5 ай бұрын
At least some of them are still fun to use in single player.
Well, Geras did fell from grace, but like from Top 3 to Top 5?
@PNDKM5 ай бұрын
Geras was in no top 5's by the end of MK11.
@darkseid93915 ай бұрын
Would of loved to see Freddy Kruger
@fancyhermit75 ай бұрын
I think characters get heavily nerfed when their strengths are showcased in either tournaments or online matches
@santh91155 ай бұрын
Was honestly expecting Acidic Alien for MKX, best character in the game became instantly irrelevant after 1 patch
@ROCBOI-wr3uh5 ай бұрын
Sonya mk11 killed me bruh
@RealityRick5 ай бұрын
Mk9 kano ABSOLUTELY deserved to be nerfed even harder than that
@Manu--AR5 ай бұрын
I thought I would see MKX Tanya ... Oh, well ..
@SwipeGuy5 ай бұрын
I play new and old fighting games on my channel. I really have enjoyed playing mk9 recently it's more fun than mk1 in my opinion :)
@oh_gosh5 ай бұрын
So, I'm ignorant here, but when he says Scorpion was hard to block, did Injustice not function on block button? Couldn't you just hold high block and auto turn around?
@PNDKM5 ай бұрын
Injustice was a back to block game. You could block by holding neutral crouch as well, but scorpion had a lot of instant overheads pre-patch, so you had to block either side.
@kaiserbts80075 ай бұрын
They hit the Quan :(
@knodeway18265 ай бұрын
Before watching I’m gonna guess Acidic alien Inj 2 deadshot
@IMachineHeadI5 ай бұрын
Didn’t people boo a tournament player because they chose Deadshot? Or am I mistaking Deadshot for a different character