An Aussie? Steve from Archery Supplies

Ehhh...I see your point, but I personally have never hunted with bare shafts. I think he is wanting to give a more "real world" accurate speed, contrasting the mfg advertised speeds, hence the 350/450/550 sequence.

You can clearly see this is not max helical. Probably stock pre fletched @1degree

It would not actually make a difference vanes aren’t having much slow down effect from drag at point blank. Speed mostly depends on weight

Leaning towards bowtech

He never did Pete sold pse.

he also said speed was everything and he was dead wrong. but it stuck and that's why everything today is about speed speed speed

Judging by the mount, yes. However it will have a different amount of lateral pull on the cables and will tune differently.

Do you really feel like you have to though? Manufacturers are fluctuating between a slider and a roller anyway. Therefore I don't think one is inherently better than the other, so I personally don't think I'd have to.

@@Rikcey I've tuned with an adjustable slider and it makes a difference. Increasing the side load can do the same as pushing the rest away from the riser. Reducing the load, or putting the slider closer to the string, is the same as pushing the rest towards the riser. On my bow (it's a bit of a lemon) I need to pull the slider right next to the arrow to clear up a nock left. It makes as big of a difference as moving the cams one shim width. It's about the horizontal nock travel. The rest adjusts the end point. The cams and yokes can adjust the starting point, end point, and direction by adjusting load through the limbs (starting with a bias on one side). The cable guard adjusts the middle bit but affects the start point. As you draw back, there's more load on the cable guard, so it'll have a greater effect on the string at full draw than at rest.

Got myself a Fortis a few months ago, and did just that. It was brand new though. Don't see myself changing.

No he didn't, he talked about it when he pulled the bow back and said it was 60# Also, 10# is the same as 50 grains

​@@JamesBond-oc4gm10 pounds is definitely not the same as 50 grain.

​@@JamesBond-oc4gm10 pounds is definitely not the same as 50 grain.

@@Rikcey I guess when he puts the video out we will see. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@@JamesBond-oc4gm what video are you talking about?

Yeah the speed grading system is disingenuous.

Mathews always gets raving reviews by people that are obviously huge mathews fans. They can do almost no wrong... even when they are lagging so far behind in the tuning department. Even prime has now overtaken them with tuning. Yes, switchweight is great.... but I want to be able to TUNE the bow with taking axles out. PSE and Prime can be done without taking out the axle now...bowtech and elite are miiles ahead on tuning with bowtech being the clear winner. I do like mathews.... I own 2. They shoot incredibly well and feel great... but they just keep throwing proprietary crap on their bows and make very small fundamental changes to ease of use. Still using mods and tophats like the were yeears ago. I dont buy this whole mods are more efficient crap either. Its a money making gimmick largely speaking. In theory, sure the cam should be a touch more efficient.... but then why can I put the same spec mathews and PSE target bows side by side and my PSE shoots 8fps faster. Both have super smooth linear draw cycles. The PSE has way more vibration and noise, yes, and the mathews does feel much more shootable... but the fact is the PSE uses a rotating mod and draws super smooth and hits 8 fps faster than my TRX. My old man has an elite, also rotating mods, same specs as my mathews... and they are the same speed. Elite may even be a touch faster..... so, this mod thing is nothing but a money grab. Everyone else can make their bows just as fast, or faster, with just as nice feeling draw cycles and give people piles of adjustability. If mathews keeps their shootability factor, and finally comes out with a tuning and adjustment system that is more micro adjustable and easier, they will have a real winner. Bowtech seems to be leading the charge with making bows very accessible and tunable for everyone. You can get a bowtech and make it draw how you like, how long you want, with the let off you want, and tune the piss out of it, all with an allen key. THAT is something to be proud of. As soon as bowtech makes a new target bow with a better riser and more parallel limbs, I will be all over it. On a note regarding PSE in the video... I am glad to see them move to a static roller guide. Those cable slides were always lacking. I'm not sure I like the look of the roller guide on this PSE, but its a step in the right direction.

He’s not even testing at IBO specs but instead is using ATA specs and then is comparing his ATA spec to the manufacturers IBO specs…. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Does the score he gives really matter? He gives you all the numbers so you can decide what’s important to you.

⁠​⁠@@mikereed845if components of the testing are inconsistent then you can’t compare the numbers/results he’s giving for all bows across the board..