Yo what is up guys, hopefully you founds this video informative! If there is any other useful info or stuff you've found strong post it down below so we can all learn and win even easier! This will likely be my last Ancestors video for a while on to currency and build videos! Ancestor Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pqRQDBACCF7c2JKHk3nFNZAMzZf1EGjAkqlm4Io-ucA/edit#gid=0

A cool thing to maybe add and i like to do is that hinekora has a very cheap item (around 150 favours) that gives your unit 100% cooldown recovery rate, which overall really boosts the majority of units that were already good. My favourite is the fieldmaster, just having one unit with that item already fills the field with walls.

I just tested frost wall and it seems they thought about it, if you try to cast frost wall near a totem it despawns it. From what i've tested seems like void sphere is the next op thing in terms of cc combined with some move speed reduction it completely makes mobs unable to move but thunderbirds and the spear guys can sill tp or dash out of it. Great video as always!

Most annoying thing is the super turtle that the guy on the bottom of the board has. I think it is currently bugged. Wording suggests he should make all the totems other than his own invincible. Unfortunately he makes his own totem invincible as well. Only way to get past this is to kill him and he is incredibly tanky. Makes flankers absolutely do nothing as they have no totems available to channel. The enemy AI also realizes this and is full offense as they dont have to guard anything

I am rank 600 and i never realised you can move favor... thanks Grim, you come to the rescue again :D

Could probably add a short bit about potential items to slap onto certain units, since there are some pretty damn good combos. Tidecaller with +4 proj covers so much space, and the Jade Blade or w/e from the Jade tribe is +50% totem damage so throwing that onto something like a Thunderbird is preeeetty strong.

Once I try tidecaller as an escort behind me and I gave her a 4 adiitional projectiles equipment, I cannot go back.

There seems to be a programming override for defenders 1) thunder bird still flies to enemy base but will engage enemies 2) spear dance will still go to enemies base but engage. It also uses that op dash move to clear your base 3) firebreather functions thr same no matter where except on escort. He is the only thing i have seen to damage to a stupid turtle if he makes it there. There is currently a bug where if you give the fire beather RF whwre it deals an absurd amount of damage due to firebreathers high HP

Good Units 14:16 Fieldmaster 15:12 Thunderbird 16:13 Caldera Ravager 17:15 Spearfisher Terrible units 18:26 Firebreather 18:40 Titantic Shell 18:59 Consuming Kunekune 19:13 Frenzymonger 19:20 Lunarturtle

Nice vid! So much informations and work tyvm Grimro ! Im happy to see that this video validates my playstyle haha. From my experience, Im surprised the storm guard from valako is not in the insane category ! As a flanker, I find him very powerful, with his shield he pretty much can only be interrupted by melee hits (exceptions with tidal waves or stuff like that) and you can easily assist him and be protected by his shield when you do that.

Thanks grim for the updates! love this mechanic man it's my favorite in YEARS.

I quite like the Frenzymonger, expensive but him dying closes the gap in stats between your team and theirs. And he doesn't explode himself like the firebreather. I actually sometimes feel like he doesn't die fast enough.

I bought the Titanic Shell once and it has a skill that makes it not get stun if attacked while channeling totem, so you can build a tactic around it like I did, but its rare that you get that much favor anyway but there is that

Dude, Titanic Shell as flanker is absolutely insane. instant win imho.

The issue is with the trails is when you hit a brick wall in balance it will be a brick wall you cant get over. You can have max res, max block, max every defence in the game you will get one shot out of no where. With AI bugs and massive cheese needed to win. It becomes more and more exhausting to play.

And in regards of unit+gear combo, the ice wave unit (tidecaller?) with the 4 added projectile makes a volley tidal wave, good for pushing their entire team and walls backwards

grimro : flankers WILL constantly rush for toem ignoring EVERYHTING else 10% guarented super duper good ! my flankers : dancing in circle doing nothing and when rushing base ignoring totems even if you distract all the enemies...

I wasn't aware of how effective backdooring in this mode is. Saving me A TON of time now. I would have been interested in a breakdown on every unit though.

i had a match yesterday where i died and basically went 3 totems vs whole base, 2x Thunderbirds with totem dmg equipment won it by themselves

Tip 0: don't be melee, ya gunna have a bad time

I feel like Titanic shell is really strong put him on a flanking position he will slowly kill all of the totems but it's a guaranteed win just takes a couple minutes. He is over powered because he will not get stunned while he is channeling

Very helpful. I would have the sunset sage in the highest tier as a flanker. it can channel right past the walls your fieldmasters put up, and it can kill off death's guide's totem without wasting time having to kill the unit, which is nice for clearspeed. I don't think I've lost with fieldmaster + sunset sage set up on both flanks. I take it over the thunderbird if I have the option, since I find they do about equally well at everything else anyways.

Thunderbird… “this thing basically has a mageblood on it” made me laugh out loud 😂

This is BY FAR the best guide I've seen so far.... Every other guide I've seen on this is incredibly weak and leaves tons of un-answered questions. Thanks Grim!

Playing Ice Spear totems and they are amazing for the mechanic. Superhigh dmg, continue to shoot while you channel, and they alert you when someone is coming towards you while channeling. Great video. Learned a thing or two.

i really hope they add some ranking lock mechanic and let me adjust my elo rank downwards. i dont want to reach a point with my build where my games take hours because my dmg isnt enough anymore and its not worth it for me to engage with the mechanic. Just like in Delv where i ccan just go Horizontal when i reach an appropriate difficulty level for myself.

In case no one mentioned this, Frost wall doesn't work here, most of the time. It collapses around totems and enemies, but it can still push them around. So it can, for example, explode a firebreather or stop a channel.

Tbh minion builds like zoomancer is top tier for this mechanics. Good for defense good for dmg.

Never knew you could sell the items. Damn that changes everything. Lol. This is awesome. Thanks Grim

cheeeers as always grim. honestly you could say your amazing strats and guides a plenty, but hoenstly it still ends up[ being such a frustrating mechanic for me cause i cant kill enemys even at rating 140..... not to mention that im sick and tired of 5 second perma character lockout every time im love tapped while trying to channel a totem OR MISCLICKING THME. i get that itll be a good money league now, and i love that it exists and i cant wait for everyone to enjoy tattooos this league, but unless some other balance efforts are done i dont know if ill ever be willing to learn because every lost battle feels like ultimatum failures with extra, painfully slow, zdps, z$ps gameplay :(

I didn't even start the league mechanic until getting the Grimro spreadsheet, no point really. thanks again dude!

grim always delivers :) now that i waited long enough for him to finish his spreadsheet i can finally begin the league mechanic and have fun with it :) thanks bro!

I want to try to take a shot each time he says "here" xD thanks for the video!

you just saved the league for me. thanks man

this helps so much thanks man

Any sort of combination that lets you lay down Ensnaring Arrow, along with a Temporal Chains on Hit effect, will quickly slow mobs to a crawl. I use manaforged arrows with chain support

"yooo, what is up guys grim here" ... music to my ears 🤣

Thanks, it helped me a lot ! I struggled hard even at low rating, i guess that's what I deserve for trying to have fun and playing a melee physical build !

Very very cool indeed. I haven't done the league mechanic much so far this league, might give it a try today though. Thanks for the vid grim.

Best video ever :) Works really well, thanks for all the great tips, my man.

Thanks, these information definitely increase my win rate dramatically

Thanks for your time and imput its always appreciated

The other thing about Firebreather is units take longer to respawn the more times they're killed. Even though they can scale pretty hard with Umu's unique (+10 seconds to revive time of killed enemies, all damage ignite, always ignite) or the 500% life as fire damage explode on death unique, it's still not worth it cause even if it does kill some units, it's self-nuke will rapidly ramp its respawn time into the stratosphere.

I just got connections and +1 projectile tattoo from 1 round. Thanks for the strats just completed my build

Thanks Grim. Been waiting for this :D

Thank you very much for this helpful video, now I'm blastin! 😎

I'm so glad my fieldmaster strategy is validated here, I have been just stacking free wins with Fieldmasters they're so unbelievably OP in flanker. Their stats aren't amazing or anything but the enemy AI just completely fails to navigate the fieldmaster walls and you can just auto win games sometimes

every minute packed with great info, keep up the awesome work!

I rerolled into 0dps 0hp CI with slowing action speed (creeping frost gmp curse on hit temp chain), with temporal bubble spectres. Also, had no luck with frost wall or conversion trap, and mathed out a stun potential for 48kdmg vs 1/25hp. Didn't try stun yet, though

Can confirm, minion builds with permanent minions and knockback support are broken for this league mechanic. B-line start channeling defensive totems to draw aggro making room for your flankers. Then either assist flankers by dashing to them or solo backline totems if your flankers draw aggro.

Thanks for the breakdown!

Thank you very much for those explanations. Incredible diagram!

Always such amazing videos. Informative during the league and hyping us up when others are being negative pre-patch and in the early days

Fantastic info. Thanks for the video.

I really hope this stays in the game. I think it will because it's very rich, not too complex, it's doesn't interrupt your gamelplay and tattoo are simply great.

Missing the streams this league but happy we still get some youtube vids!

Made it to 2k rating without losing a single tournament using void sphere, ensnaring arrow and frost wall. A full tournament takes me about 5-6 min. You don't have to think about units at all, so you can just take the best reward.

Really nice guide! Appreciate this..

if u can play w/ a friend, DO IT. one(tanky) do defence, n other(fast&dps) do offence. this gonna make the match so ez n fast.

Thank you for the video, very useful information

I got to 600 just basically randomnly placing shit on the board lol. I’m playing poison SRS. Thanks for all the tips on positions to put everybody. I also agree on the thunderbird, my favorite unit. Win everytime I can get 1-2 of them

Last night I was thinking, I really need a guide from Grim for this and bingo! Thanks Grim! Champion!

You are a lifesaver bro tyvm for the info.

My man this video is really nice! I got up to 650-700 by my own, but i did it kinda by accident, but after this one and that awesome spreadsheet i feel like i can go to 2k no problem. Really great work! Only thing to notice would be a comment about the Navali units - i know they are bad, but which of the 3 sucks the most, where could i put em if i cant yet replace them etc. Also maybe a quick word towards great items would be also neat, i usually tend to grab some items in the last two rounds if i wont replace stuff or the favour left is not enough to get another unit in. And again - that spreadsheet is just superb!

Nice Info , helps alot 👌 Like Always top video

Please , PLEASE, make your spreadsheet with BLACK background, the flashbangs are real and painful.

06:49 "Tidecaller is a specialized defender ... if you have any units like that, put them where they belong" Where are you seeing this? The UI tooltip doesn't mention this. Or are you just assuming the ability, tidal wave, is good for defending?

Thanks Grimro, very useful video that I needed.

That is the biggest thing people don't get. It's not about combat per se.

Amazing job, thanks.

Thank you Grimro for this.Great video.

Thanks for the great guide!

Grim, you da man! thanks for this.

the chaos faction is absolutely devastating to me cause i play a chaos build and barely do anything XD

I just realised this yooooo what is up guys grim here intro was something a very old poe streamer i watched did lol.

For the support role, i highly recommend to use a team of sunset sage. They can destroy totems from distance. They obliterate the deaths guide totem and other.

Some VERY OP item + character combos that will win you games Caldera Ravager + Sun Blot band ( +4 Proj ) Jade Shaman + Firebreather mead ( RF ) and ofc the best Fieldmaster + CDR item

caldera ravager is insane with +4 projectile item he's NUTS with that thing, even navali scrap is pretty good on defense with that item I feel like. Also sunset sage is nice as well with it's ranged channeling on totems

When started doing the mechanic I liked it because it was fun and an easy way to get currency but now I've soured on it. The AI players can buy whatever units they want while I have to hope that there's a match that rewards the currency I need. Also, I play an RF Jugg and some units have some kind of regen nullifying field that causes me to lose life. Why isn't that in the mob description? I'm at rank 119. If it's this hard now what will it be like at rank 1000. From now on I'm just going to focus on farming currency and not worry about the tournaments. Oh, and another thing, flask charges don't refill fast enough.

Really like your content!

Memewall: Faster Casting + Multitple Totems + Spell Totem + Frost Wall.

Would be nice if there was a timer counting down when you die

Hard disagree on the Titanic Shell (at least at the point that I'm at around rank 800) it cannot be interrupted when channeling on totems and has a metric ass ton of life. putting it in a flanker position makes it just a matter of time before you win as the enemy team simply cannot stop it. (same goes for if it's against you though so there's that....)

Sadly frost wall doesn't work in this case. It appears and disappears instantly when casted near totems

wow a really GOD video, thanks bro. PD: any tips againts kuhutura? that man on late sucks. Always 1shot me and has titanic shell . Its a big trouble kuhutura

now do it with something that doesnt have shapers per second dps

Cursebotting them with doedres skin + curse Effect is also preeeetty strong All hexes All the time with insane effect

just tried this strat lost miserably the first 2 matches

grim playing tornado shot ranger? good to see him trying out ne things

Thanks for the video and the spreadsheet, awesome work! I wonder if there's really a viable tank build, as the enemy units are capable of decimating even my 900k EHP spectres in mere seconds (the RF enemy is particularly nasty). It's currently the only mechanic where I have to make sure not to have my AG around, so far I couldn't find a working defense against enemies in higher rankings (and I'm only at 1000).

I tried frost wall already yesterday and it doesn't work. The walls instantly auto despawn in a huge radius near totems so they end up just slightly moving the enemies and then they're gone. I also tried to spam them by linking frost wall to spell totem support and the issue is they only have three charges and then stop casting.

Currently I am leveling a ice spear totem hierophant. Should be able to kill most units easily and futthermore doesnt need to bother about using the skill yourself. Just place like 8 totems and watch everythign being killen instantly.

Not using Sunset sages (best flanker in the game) is a mistake IMHO.

actually the best way to eliminate harder masters early on is to fight them early to lower their odds of getting to the finals. chances are theyll end up getting knocked off the tournament if you atleast beat then once. easy enemy would be kaom but can get really scary tanky end game. the friendly masked guy is also lowkey strong and will one or two shot you real quick, if he gets closed to you so try to get in melee range when fighting him, oldman maata is also a darkhorse, his strat is flank rushing your base and I found that the best approach to him is to heavily defend against his flankers at first then turn the tide when his team dies. as for rakiata i found her easy as my playstyle is more of a passive methodical approach and didnt really rush her base, but like grim said base rushing her is big no no

I'm trying RF for the first time ever, and I've found that this league (and especially this league mechanic) was the worst time to try out RF. I'm still having an easy and fun time in maps and delve though.

Awesome video, this is extremely helpful!! Only thing I have trouble with is matching the 'vendor' with the tribe, but I just made a quick cheat sheet for that. :) Can someone smarter than me explain the kill/survive chart at the top of the spreadsheet? Is it just describing your overall strategy which is to 'base race'/kill or just try to be cautious and survive?

it's crazy that ggg just turned off stuff like stun, knockback, and fear when those mechanics are literally never used anywhere else. real kick in the teeth for people trying to work around the mechanic

One enemy you didnt mention is tahuatara(or something like that) the big bonks guy. He has insane AoE and if he touches you, youre dead. He also has some units that one shot you if they normal attack you, yes, theyre overtuned af. Maybe you didnt notice them because you have 300% movement speed but for the rest of us normal people this guy is a nightmare and needs an urgent nerf.

Hiya, was just wondering if this is still valid after the last update and if not will you be making an update to the spreadsheet? Great work!

my strat was to just get the corpse eating boar only kill the commander and just sit on his corpse with the boar and my guys just clean up i usually dont even need to attack anymore