Mmm no

Only the price of a small car 🤣

i mean, anyone that saw the div scarabs, and didn't immediately think of this, is luke warm iq at best

@@Drianikabenwhy do people like you always downplay this? Come up with your own stuff lol

Its for sure not Bazooka atleast x)

this league it was pretty obvious tbh, i watched ben's video about the scarabs and could tell that div would be the path of least resistance, i'm sure most people could figure that out. but in general i absolutely agree with you, in most leagues there's some gigabrain 200iq stuff being done that i would never think of, and probably most people wouldn't.

@@quackologist It really was that obvious

whats your strategy, which maps u favour etc

how did u guys drop a Unrequited Love in jungle valley ?

What did they patch?

I want to see you farm 100 mirrors in a week and say hi GGG...😆

@@SCHTRAM whole graveyard crafting

744 mirrors? and they are 6 man group plus traders, so in total that's like 6k mirrors, insane

Damn 93 mirrors per person per hour, that's crazy!

@@Kaktanternak i think they are at 34k mirrors now

25 eggs

Coming from the future, I can confirm they are mirrillionaires now

solo and duo players can make more currency than group players like this. watch fubgun's videos from last league. at the highest end, splitting currency between a big group, including traders, nets less than playing by yourself or with one other person.

@@justinhowe3878 t7 cemetery issue wasn't meant to happen. So call fub lucky that it did. Also rip tornado shot xD

@@justinhowe3878you are still talking about the 1%. 99% of players don’t have the time or the currency to play like this. He not saying it’s not possible, but that it’s not viable for most players

@@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 Doesn't have to be viable for most players. It's the same for any game - most players will not be in the top tier - whether it's FPS, RTS, MMORPG ... even chess.

People don't want the game to be balanced around Empy and his group, people want the disperity between empy's group and playing solo to not be so astronomically large. In other words, you can keep the ceiling as it is, but raise the floor

Everyone who has more than 5-10 per league does, and if they don't they are a part of the chain and aware of it

@@SedBuildsThingsxD

​@@SedBuildsThings skill issue

ggnoobs

@@SedBuildsThings Not even remotely true lmao. We see what he spends all his mirrors on every league. He puts thousands of divines into his other builds and then a truly obscene amount into their end-league project crafting. Maybe if you spent less time commenting on KZfaq and more time figuring out how to utilize similarly profitable solo currency strategies or developing friendships to help run your own MF party groups, you would not need to be this jealous.

Ikr every outro song a banger

Engage - Bregna is one of those tracks that is such an insane bagner that i found through Empy :D

So true! I found ACRAZE - Do It To It (Sub Focus Remix) because of Empy's op DnB playlists :D

there is more to this question. but simply put - group play is rewarding as it adds quant and rarity. BUT - it heavily depends on ur setup i'd say. if u can increase the value of doing stuff in a duo (besides FUN), that means for example u can run maps u wont do otherwise solo AND u are faster in doing this then doing ur weaker maps solo OR u are exceptionally faster in running ur toughest maps - that it is. that is a matter of the increase in value u'r looking for. this probably already requiers a more inline setup for ur characters - so u need to build around that at some point. it also comes down to the strategy ur going for - u can earn currency with almost every aspect of the game. beasts, delve, bosses, ritual, harvest, temples and so on... so streamling this is also a factor. BUT again - if u want to play as a duo *just do it*, this game has no direct competion nor anything like a ladder or what so ever. it is all about the fun of yours. set ur own goals and overcome them :)

New scarab adds your favoured map's div card drop pool to every map you run

Correct. If he would do all these things on his own. Rolling maps, buying all scarabs. What you see - divide by at least 100-200. He says it's all his deed. But there are to many people behind this. To be fair, he MUST do all things by his own hands. This will show the truth. Do you know what is sad. He was the same 7 years ago. He claimed he could level to 100 in few hours. But he didn't roll any map for that. He was just given all the maps by some persons. Yes, just 1 person claiming to be better than others. But in fact - bad as solo. He never played solo. The best way to show yourself is to play SSF. But he cannot. He never could.

Not true. High end solo and duo players make more currency per hour than group players. This div farm seems to be an exceptional case because currently, smaller groups are priced out of it. But in general, solo and duo play are more profitable, because you don't have to split the profits between 7+ people.

@@justinhowe3878 I make like 2 div per hour. Whats that secret solo/duo strat that would give more money that what is shown in the video??

@@justinhowe3878 No, I was telling about people behind the scene. His streams are all showcases, with preparstions. Imagine rolling so many maps, getting so many scarabs via ingame trade system. These "profits" are only because they literally sucked out the most of scarabs on trade.

Yes i think curation scarab is common enough for solo duo plays

@Empyriangaming thank you what does your tree looke like in this? Just all map effect nodes + alva+ blight and the keystone that randomises the maps?

he is overtalk to get attention

Same. This league group play seems more profitable than group play in previous leagues because I don’t think they’ve made 10 mirrors in a day before. However, group play in the past has never been as profitable per person compared to a solo person playing at the same level of efficiency. You can see in past videos that Empy always gets a cut of about 2-4 mirrors at the end of their group play sessions. A solo player at the same efficiency playing 16 hours a day like they do can make at least that amount in the same amount of time that their group operates. Idk why people complain about empy’s group when there are solo streamers who make the same amount of currency if not more (per person)

even if it's crazy currency making, it's still not a reason to complain. Also the best currency making will always be free market "abuse": smart invest and sell with a bit of craft, hideout gameplay but not many can do that in term of game and economic knowlege and again the effort to do that for hours and hours...

High end solo and duo players make more currency per hour than group players. But you actually have to know how to farm efficiently. Anybody who complains about group players is just demonstrating their ignorance. Empy has talked about this any number of times on videos and even shown the numbers. Just watch fubgun's videos from last league. His profits were absolutely insane.

It's because they want to rmt but cant

It would take paragraphs upon paragraphs to explain all the stuff they're doing, the builds, the strategies, and even then, you'd need a group of 5 other people willing to spend 16 hours a day no-lifing the game for a week plus right from league start. What they're doing is for a super experienced and knowledgeable group.

The minmax for their maps aren't really made for solo play, theres likely a better setup for you as a solo player. most of the loot multipliers are just coming from party play anyway, they are getting around 112% quant and 90% rarity multiplier due to party play alone. Edit: if you specifically are caring about the full stacks of div cards, its one of the new div scarab mods. like 20% chance or smth to drop as a full stack

@@QueenSylphie Thanks kaiden...I'm just trying to learn about the game, not be a empyrian...Do you know if they are looking for something else than the scarabs? Any configs that I could have no idea that it exists? hueueh

@@arturjosemisturajunior1300 if you are new to the game I would not use this vid for strats. this is like top 0.0000001% of play that's just for entertainment. i would look up how to get a solid (and cheap) build and just start pushing higher tiers of map. the drop influence and map config really will not make a difference. a better metric would just be trying to run as many high tier maps as possible and spend as little time in your hideout as possible. you will get a better feel for optimization the more you play

Yes, solo play is always more currency playing the same amount.

not this league it isnt lol, solo cant even begin to afford any of the good scarabs or buy them 1 by 1@@Empyriangaming

@@Ehvan247 you don't need to do the expensive scarabs for most profit strategies.

@@Cyclopsided base rusted scarabs dont do jack shit for card hunting..

@@Ehvan247but.. you don’t have to do the same exact strats lmao

Oh look, it's one of those forum complainers here in the wild. Just sell the scarabs then 4head.

Streamer account like him get rewarded much more

ggg enable streamer flag on his character

I honestly think it stems from jelousy because these people just wish they had friends so that they could do this with them.

It's not because of game being rewarding. It's about that the game is not rewarding for Them, due to the skill issue. And also because someone has friends and they don't.

Hey thanks!

no bcs current "bis" strat is to input hundreds of maps to get divine mod, run it get around 60 div and fish for another div mod again in next 700-800 maps repeat...

anyone who cries that someone drop something while farming is just a 13y old loser.

Lmao

Solo players just use different strategies, but the money is the same if you do it correctly. This just looks more crazy because you're seeing resources that are going to be divided 9 ways all dropping at once.

@eckology016 I didn't say that, I said "as an average player... I don't want solo players spending 300 hours to be in a similar situation." An average player isn't going to look up in depth farming strats and level a character just for farming and then spend 100+ hours farming just to get to a comparable state. And the only reason they would be is because of trading. Ssf? More like 3 to 4 hundred hours to get to a comparable state. That is definitely not the average player. I'm a dad with a full time job. I'm lucky to play for an hour or 2 in the evening, once or twice a week.

@@eckology016 Seems like I don't do it correctly since many leagues. Even 20 div per day with 10h playtime would be unreachable for me

The only way they've ever hurt group farming successfully is by making the core game unbelievably unfun for solo players as well. Was called Kalandra. Everyone hated it.

​@@eckology016 GGG could just delete/reduce the group quantity/rarity bonus and/or make bonus quant/rarity use the groups average instead of the killer's. That would nerf group farming without affecting solo players at all, so GGG could IF they ever wanted to.

But why if you can make that much divines solo if you gonna farm simulacrum on like dd for 16 hours straing you will get same amount of currency they get after split

@@duskymagethat also hurts timmy and tommy, who just want to play together.

no shot empy is playing on GFN, the performance isn't that good on PoE and Empy almost never has lag problems despite the massive amount of shit on the screen, a top end computer is far better than streaming

I doubt many of us even come close to the currency they are printing every time they play, but there is also no need to xD Last league I made a small percentage of their total loot but it was still about 4 mirrors which was my best league by far and I started playing during Torment league 2014

@@SynnyXX I mean I've never seen a mirror drop in my life 😂 one day 😊

They play too many hours and have people trading for them so they just focus on blast maps after map for 14 hours for 1 week And even then.. the cut is like maybe 5 mirrors per person if they are lucky 10 mirrors is insane amount of currency but that is 14 hours x 7 days without missing a second

@@Lala_Fae Keep going, I believe in you 😌

​@@SynnyXXthank you ❤

you probably dont farm 16 hours a day and also they split the money in 10 people

@@lulw1061 i farm about 12 hours

They farmed 23 mirrors playing as 8 in 5 days, at 250d per mirror that 5750 div, 143 div per person per day, so less than 10 div per person per hour. There are plenty of strategies that make more than that as a solo right now.

I farm 15h and get like 15 div haha Whats your secret?

@@alisioardiona727 Getting 10div per hour without godlike gear? how?

just play the game

@@codesymphony what?

You're not "normal". You are just bad at the game, unable/unwilling to improve, and, therefore, very bitter about it. Let me ask you a question: what have you done to get a mirror?

But since there is 9 of us in the group we’re only getting 10% of this loot, equal to a solo player. Have you ever considered that?

@@kaide2759 when did I say I wanted to nerf non ssf?

ikr imagine farming profit yourself and actually enjoying the game instead of just paying for it in something like diablo immortal which is not at all optimized for pc and with the option to buy the full endgame experience 2min into the game...pathetic

As always. Ggg are bad devs. They made great game but with every step they are killing it. They started well and are finishing badly

Seems like a skill issue to me

@@reimu420 skill issue? Its literally a thing changed by GGG to prevent from lucreative farm. Stop with this skill issue bs.

@jedrusnowak3317 There's always something lucrative to farm. just because a group uses a strat doesn't mean everybody has to do that strat, plenty of solo players are making currency.

The amount of currency you are able to acquire is not a benchmark for the game and it’s longevity if you do not have fun playing it don’t play it. Remember it is a game lol

Anyone should stop playing a bad league. Why do you think they fixed this one? Because the retention numbers were all-time bad. If you're a masochist that plays a game you're not enjoying, that's a life skill issue. Do things that make you happy, and you'll be happier. E-Z.

Isn’t that what everyone does tho? If you’re not having fun with a particular patch you just take a break and come back at a future update. Games are supposed to be fun and everyone has fun in different ways

What does this mean?

I stopped in 3.15 ocasionaly watch empy to laugh at this shit balance

@@jedrusnowak3317 honestly seeing this dude make more currency (with his team) than i made in all of my PoE, and then knowing they balance loot around him and not the masses. makes me realize i wont be able to get everything.

@@ironspartan117 you both are dumb people are making more money than them solo

For group players every league is best. For solo players this suck balls

Great, sweaty gamers farming the stuff I dont wanna farm and making it cheap to buy

@@IplayTeemoasaWard What ?

Poe last charm after legion. Now its mass group bashing. Poe is faaar worse now

People saying "group farming destroys the economy" are literally braindead.

Group farming opens up solo strats to feed other parts of the economy. It goes both ways

Cap

Yawn