John: *breathes* Abigail: P A T H E T I C

people in and around camp trying to have a private convo... Arthur: 👁 👃 👁

Never understood the hate for abigails 'nagging'. She's not nagging, she's asking John to be a father and being reasonably upset when he refuses to do so.

John in 1899: I hate my wife. John in 1907: I love my wife. John in 1911: GIVE ME BACK MY WIFE.

Arthur: "I've mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still, that I become invisible to the eye."

John: “Ain’t nobody gonna ever take him again. I SWEAR.” Edgar Ross: Hold my beer.

i like how jack being kidnapped was basically a wake up call for john. that’s when he started to try and be a father

It's so hard to watch John act this way to Abigail and totally neglect Jack, knowing the man he eventually becomes. I'm so glad John became a responsible husband and father because seeing him like this is blood-boiling.

I love how Arthur just stands around and watches John's failing marriage.

John’s inability of expressing his feelings and Abigail’s clingingness is what makes their relationship.

2:45 scariest jumpscare of 2018

2:55 That music came in so perfectly like it's a transition in a sitcom.

Abigail shouldn't be calling anyone a moron when she's using a broom to sweep the grass in her tent

8:06 John: "Just making sure we got a plan" Dutch: *in the distance* "Did someone said a _PLAAAAAAN?!"_

Is it just me or did I notice that the closer John became with his family the further the gang started to fall apart

3:45 the way Abigail walks, you know exactly what is coming.

Abigail and John: *Has a heart-to-heart conversation* Arthur: *enters the tent like Kramer*

John Marston in the early part of RDR2 : Hangs out with Bill and Javier while mock Abigail John Marston in RDR : Lives with Abigail while hunt down Bill and Javier

I like how you made Arthur step back at 6:23 when she starts to scold him

After Jack was taken John realized he cared for his family and from then on did what he could to help them. Eventually Abigail and jack left John in the epilogue but only because she was scared he would continue robbing people and killing. Once John gave her and jack the life they wanted she stayed with him knowing he did love them both

Arthur: My lady. Abigail: Don't talk to me, Arthur. Arthur: Okay 😢😢😢

Bro, Arthur just stalking their relationship make me feel uncomfortable

2:39 Abigail appearing out of nowhere

It’s nice to see the growth John goes through. From being an arrogant selfish asshole to changing into the man we all love to see. John fell more in love with Abigail as they’re relationship went on. Glad to see he enjoyed his family for a bit before he gave his life for them.

"I shoulda know you'd be sniffing around." John can predict the future, the past and the present.

"Let me know if you'd like me to peel you a grape", okay that's what I like to call a roast.

2:14 John and Bill’s friendship before they kill each other 🤣

It really is painful how much she cares and how little he is able to show care for her, his son and even for himself. She is more there for him than he is himself. And that's very frustrating for her. It's possible to become annoyed at her as a nag, but mature players know better. They know she's in the right.

John: Abigail: "YoU'rE a PaThEtIc MaN jOhN mArStOn!"

Abigail can’t call John a moron when she’s literally the one” cleaning the grass”

2:50 the way the song enters.... perfection

Abigail was clearly in love with John from chapter one onwards. It just took him awhile to realize how good he had it. You saw how fast he manned up and handled his business once he understood. It's the one thing he learned before Arthur.

That development between them, though

Urban Dictionary : *“Pathetic Exists”* Abigail : It’s Free Real Estate.

6:23 you can sense his fear as he steps back and when he turns around...just pure ‘what the hell’

“Let me rest in the sun” **IS IN THE SHADE**

3:57 so that’s how John got his dead eye

its good to see john and bill laughing together

6:27 me:"wait a second, this mean that they saw me all the time that i was spieng them? Emberassing...."

I like how throughout the game John starts to treat Abigail and Jack a little better, and then when we get to 1907 & 1911, family’s the most important thing to him to where he’d even kill his old gang members for them

*John aimlessly walking around* “Can I talk to you?” “I am busy.” *Proceeds to aimlessly walking through the woods*

I absolutely love the fact that this isn’t the same John I knew from RDR1. I genuinely hated his guts at times but watching him slowly change into that John I knew was one of the most satisfying things I’ve ever experienced across any media I’ve experienced, as of yet.

6:22 lmao the player actually stumbled

2:42 that song sean starts singing is perfectly timed

6:22 That actually scared me. Breaking the 4th wall talking to me like my anxiety.

John and Abigail really came a long way to how things were in RDR1. I love how much more depth their relationship was given in Red Dead 2.

2:40 Joaquin's Joker laugh 2:42: Heath's Joker laugh

2:35 ive never heard John laugh. also Bill sounds like a witch villager in minecraft

2:45 that slow camera pan was comedic genius

4:36 "BUt liquor" "Hello" :)

4:56 when he said "excuse me" i though he was gonna go talk to abigail but no, instead he walk to the side of the river and stand there

5:14 Javier’s chuckle

4:48 Johns reaction when he hears Abigail calling for him is amazing 😂😂😂

This only makes rdr 1 better imo

Arthur at 5:23 *I am just going to stand right there inside your tent, right here, closer, closer, PERFECT* - in Peter Griffin voice

I really appreciate the full-circle of character development the devs did for the marston family throughout rdr2. They made John and Abigail practically hate each other and not get along in the first couple chapters, but they've started to get along again around chapter 4 and 5, while still not being perfect. These little details and writing decisions really are what make rdr2 one of my favourite games.

"life is... life is brutal, brief.. and random!" "but liquor.." "..is wonderful."

I love how John's and Abigail's relationship develops over the course of the story. John turns from an irresponsible and cold man to a loving father who puts his life on the line. People give Abigail grief for nagging John but she is within her rights to do so. Both her and John had difficult childhoods (both were orphans) and had to resort to crime to survive. Abigail wants Jack to have a better life, a more stable childhood and she wants John to accept his responsibility as a father. When she and Jack leave John in 1907, she doesn't do it out of spite or hatred but out of a genuine fear that John is slipping back into the outlaw life. I found John initially to be irritating as a character but as he started warming up to Jack and taking his fatherly role with a lot more seriousness and dedication, I really started to take a liking to him. His story during the Epilogue proves that he has the capacity to be a good father to Jack. Also, people commenting on Abigail being illiterate... so? It doesn't mean anything. Illiteracy was much more common back then, especially for people hailing from impoverished backgrounds, such as Abigail.

4:32 John: Life is brutal... brief... and random but liquor... *h e l o!*

3:13 We going to ignore sean is singing oh mollie

2:27 laughing together then a couple years later John kills him

**John and Abigail get into a heated argument** _Arthur: M’lady __2:08_

I Love John's character development in this Game, you can't almost not recognize that's the Man Who killed his old Friends and gave his Life for his family

6:11 RAGING ABIGAIL

People in camp trying to have a personal conversation: Arthur: Whom'st has summoned the almighty one?

6:21 i like how u backed up when u was getting Yelled at by abigail

- Hey, Arthur! Want something? - No, no, go on, just ignore me 5:49

There's a scene in Clemens Point where Abigail tells a bunch of guy, not even a good crowd, that being a mother sucks and she hates having to take care of a snooty kid. And yet here she is about to rip off Arthur's and John's head when he's gone. Love how they grow as a couple and parents

A year after release and we are still discovering dialogue

The dialogue changes if you stand further away. Specifically the two conversations at the shady bell camp. If you stand back when they are talking under the porch they agree to sleep together in the same room as a family and they all walk upstairs. If you get too close you become involved in the conversation and Abigail gets mad.

3:25 leave me alone will ya

Love John's reaction at 2:42 😂😂 that laugh went from 100 to 0 in seconds

Bill & John: *Laughs* Abigail: _P A T H E T I C_

Nobody Absolutely nobody Abigail:pathetic

Seeing John and Bill laughing together made me smile. Then I remember what happens.

At 5:28 John does an act of bad luck by placing his hat on the bed, A western myth is that if you place your hat on a bed you need to spit in it and kick it out your room to negate the bad luck. I think the tale is that cowboys/outlaws shouldn't live comfortably therefore a bed is an act of comfort and why the hat shouldn't touch the bed.

2:15 - 3:17 I really loved how this scene played out! Just love how John and bill are being drunk shooting the shit and out of no where Abigail comes to tell john "pathetic" only this time, john is in a drunken state so Abigail's word doesn't hurt john and instead makes a mockery out the whole situation! All the while, Sean gives us a tune that perfectly fits the scene and plays us out! Beautiful scene (:

i like how quickly Abigail realizes that sweeping the grass is useless at 2:02

4:07 John and Jack's father

7:33 Micha being all existential in the backround

5:39 John and Abigail trying to have a romantic moment Arthur: Helo

6:21 Finally Abigail recognized that Arthur always sees them talking to each other

2:22 Abigail and John: *having a private conversation* Arthur: 👁👄👁 Everyone Around The Campfire: *nine months from now you’ll have a daughter or a son~*

Imagine if this was real life and Arthur was always just eavesdropping in people’s conversations and standing right in front of them 😂 I doubt anyone would even talk to him

Take a shot everytime Abigail calls John pathetic. 😂

2:01 when Abigail realizes she’s sweeping the dirt.

4:30 "...but liquor, *HELLO* is wonderful

Abigail: “YOURE PATHETIC” John: 🗿

6:58 John: Ain't nobody ever gonna take him again. I swear. When the o'driscolls raid the camp, the first thing John goes for is Jack. He really was sincere about that.

Sounds like a legit marriage, they fight every second of their existence but they are still together

Javier's little giggle 5:15

5:34 John: I know I ain't acted right to you and the boy Arthur: Evening to ya🤠

John: blinks* Abigail: THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW

Unpopular opinion? When she left, he should've let her go, just started over in life, maybe meeting Bonnie at the right time.

During my play through I would notice these little moments between John and Abigail but I always left them alone to do their thing, crazy how these little moments could always be missed just by being impatient

6:22 I literally felt I was gonna get slapped

1:30 that look when you know he's not lying

The silence 7:38 and onwards, then John’s reaction… They’re top notch man… Love this couple

You can clearly see that she loved him more than anything,it's not a joke,if you read between the lines you would know it,that was her way to demonstrate how much she cared about him,he's was lucky to have her and he knew it,Arthur knew it,and John never could return that much love,he did what he could,can you imagine how he felt when Ross taken them,"he failed her again,and the boy",this is something that makes you understand the name of the game,Arthur's redemption was something,but John's redemption is something more special,damn,this game is so special...

John genuinely doesn't seem to care to even talk to Abigial... Then he later gives his life for his family... Guess something did change throughout the years!