Hip Hop is essentially what happened to Jamaica sound system culture when it was brough to US where there wasn't a movement of highly talented musicians willing to record backing records to sing/jam on top of as there was in Reggae with recording engineers like Lee Perry and backing playing bands like The Upsetters. The emergence of rap can fully be traced to Gil Scott-Heron. Suddenly if you had something to say, you didn't have to be able to sing. This idea then influenced Jamaican culture itself, so with raggamuffin you suddenly didn't have to be able to be a Reggae singer to clime to the stage and jam atop of a dubplate.

Sampling with rap/toasting is from soundsystem soundclash culture that’s fact! Point blank!

I'd include Jamaican music. Lee Perry was sampling in 1973 with 'Station Underground News' for those who are unfamiliar with his pioneering technical artistry. 1m 50s.

It's really strange to me that lots of Industrial and Noise doesn't get more credit for use of samples. Not just that but how much of the Demoscene, Amiga/trackers, and Jungle/DnB scene used shitloads of samples as well.

Don’t forget Thomas Dolby, Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon “Money”

U damn sure right I'm on of them💯

Also study the latest technology in which you could do much more with the music, for example when the synth was invented it created new genres because you could make new sounds previously unattainable, use the best tech, programs and gear you have access to, flstudio is usually all you need, in that case push the limits of flstudio

Somewhere out there the new big genre ppl dont know of is already being made as we speak, like what happened with Jersey club

Its also pushing the limits of what we could do, like when southern hip hop pushed the distorition on the cowbell

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Was gonna say it I have met Theodore a couple times and .. lol Sad there is no photo credit. ->Joe Conzo. Called by the new york times as the photographer who took Hip Hop's baby pictures.

Marley Marl was the first Hip Hop producer to isolate one-shots. Dilla's innovation was applying different swing settings to each one.

I was gonna say it . Thanks.

Sad there is no photo credit. ->Joe Conzo. Called by the new york times as the photographer who took Hip Hop's baby pictures.

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@@Chris_Read have many of your mixtapes hope your still killing the decks bro. Peace

Yes indeed, re-posted with a few edits to images.

They got it at 21:44

Amen break?

Well if your sampling other peoples music if your going to sell it you have to pay royalties. If your putting it up for free on SoundCloud it's totally legal and fine and no ones gonna sue you

So, as long as im not making money of it, im free to use it right? Got it, thanks

that's not true, just because you're not directly making money from a piece of music that contains a sample, doesn't mean you're not profiting from it somehow, technically you could still get sued. if you publish it, even for free, you're using it for publicity, and advertisers need to pay royalties.

@Technews Bars and other venues actually are supposed to pay those royalties for the privilege of playing copywritten music via band or radio.

Thanks for watching.

as well as 'immigrant populations'

Use of both of those phrases something that I covered in my foot notes if you want to take a look: musicofsubstance.com/point-blank-history-of-sampling-workshop-foot-notes/

@AERI Hope this finds you well... Im only 3 years late...... Sampling is not the one thing... It may have created hip hop, but Ive always been a sucker for sampling to make instruments... Texturtes .. sounds... So, Here on display NOT the history of sampling.... Its the history of sampling of a genre / subject you know. As youve pointed out re AON, as Yello, JMJ never They use samples to create sounds to make the music.. Whether instrumental, or their own exclusive sounds...Thats sampling too, but its more than just triggering... As for Yello.... I must share. Yello played in NY city in 1984.. They made a track that was a hit on the black music dance charts.... The venue was packed.... PACKED.. 1 the Singer, 1 the Muso.. Fairlight arched up, and mostly the entire audience who were black saw 2 white , well dressed Swiss guys walk on stage... They'd never seen them, new who they were , but were there for the music.... and there's actual mention that the way Dieter Mier (The singer) was one of the pioneers of rap.... I shit you not... Just listen to the single "Bostich".... And if you want to know what they played at the gig In NY? Yello: Live at the Roxy. (Is a version of bostich mixed up...) Now to 6 degrees..... I left my Suit & Tie wearing job to work in a Music shop in Sydney.. I was on the Hi tech floor.. Loved it! It was 1990, EPS, S900 , ect ect.. affordable samplers.. (kids today dont realise went you got a LOAN, that could buy a CAR back then, you cold buy a Sampler... ONE Sampler...you researched, months and months, then committed. Its called living on noodles.. But today where everything a mouse click away, theres always the next best thing.. That plug in thats not free (but is) doesn't make a sound some producer guy does.....And from the either of the Eithernet "Buy XXXXX, Such and such uses it".... And I know , reading the question he asks, he could of done it without spending money, or cracking software.. You see, the question will always have an answer, but knowing how to Get to the answer through trail and error (knowing your tools) is more valuable addition to that knowledge. Same as my reasons to post this... Ap[ologies, to the point at hand. So , a guy comes in to the shop, and is selling me on an idea, a product he has... in his hands... It was a CD. After our conversation we agreed he'd leave it on consignment and check out if it would peak any interest. That CD, in 1990, He wanted to sell for $299... Yep.. It was a Sample CD. THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS! No internet then , only BBS's, Whatever Baud Rate Modems, And a CD burner would cost you $40K.. Blanks were $300 or so,,,,, So I did what any music shop guy would do.... Take it home and arch it up... You know what? 50% of the samples on that AUDIO Sample CD were from Yello ..... I was somewhat thrown back, because , Ive followed them since 1980, And thinking, "His given this to the wrong guy".... But at the same time, It just reinforced how much Boris Blank, and Yello have done without many knowing at all. And the morale of that shop story? Na, There isnt one... But that guy Doug who walked in with that CD, I'm pretty sure he did alright in the end.. Started a little company called ,hmmm... East West? Something like that. Anyway, 'nuff of my stories... Beers and Cheers form Down under.

I'm certainly not the first person to attempt to tell the story of sampling. I dare say there are dozens of lectures or docs on the subject. The only part that I did take inspiration from a specific lecture on though is the reference to the Legendary KO, Kanye, Ray Charles etc, which was the subject of a Duke Law lecture from about 10 years back. I mention it in passing because it's a great practical example of a chain of connections but there's a much more detailed exploration in the original lecture. There's further info on that here: law.duke.edu/news/2757/

It was a joke man. Your presentation was excellent, and thanks for it, I really enjoyed..

hazybrain7 Good one

It just covered all the stuff u should already know about sampling if u r into yer music production or have read all the music books, He should have covered all the old skool rave sample 88-93(Uk) what is not covered much not just stuff u can find on the net and ripp it off, Cover something diffrent !

So a.. SAMPLE?

Glad you found it informative. You're not the first to mention the language on this point. I have tried to reply elsewhere on this thread, but I say populations in the plural (rather than referring specifically to African Americans) to reflect the fact that jazz enjoys roots in the musical traditions of both Africa and Europe. The link to the Jazz in America website in my footnotes explores this in some more detail: musicofsubstance.com/point-blank-history-of-sampling-workshop-foot-notes/

@@Chris_Read there are some great studies of blues and how it contains elements of Scots folk song structure (the repetition of lines, for example), another early 'plantation' music, 'fife and drum' has even move obvious european influences, all of which emphasises one of the points you make in this video which is that no music exists in a vacuum and just appears from nowhere without identifiable outside influences. Apart from maybe Kraftwerk lol

Can you expand on that statement?

Kool Herc immigrated to NY from Jamaica. Kool Herc started hip hop. But yeah, immigrants had zero to do with hip hop music. Riiiight