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Art Tip: STOP ruining your paintings with this

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Margot Hallac

Margot Hallac

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@Sglinert
@Sglinert Жыл бұрын
This video made me...wince. I have three small black-only palettes--mineral, granulating, and various formulations of smooth blacks. They are all different, and I love painting with them plus a single accent color like alizarin crimson. Smooth blacks make gorgeous textures with a bit of granulating medium, as well. Blacks are mysterious and no two formulations are the same--some of them are purpley, some greenish, some dark blue, some brownish. I don't think any black is actually...black except maybe Stuart Semple's Blink, which I have never tried. Having said that, I have to say that it never occurred to use black for shadows, as shadows aren't black. And I was taught to mix the complement to shade a color in fifth grade art class after Rusty Wallingford ate the black crayons.
@yopestevens1505
@yopestevens1505 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Smarty song: When you eat your crayons, do you eat the red ones last?
@Sglinert
@Sglinert Жыл бұрын
@@yopestevens1505 I can't recall...but i do remember sitting in front of the little creep back in the day when we had ink bottles in a little hole in our wooden desks. I had pigtails. Three guesses what Rusty did with them. My mother was incandescent...and I cried for days because the ink didn't come out and I had to have my hair cut.
@yopestevens1505
@yopestevens1505 Жыл бұрын
@@Sglinert Sounds like your classic classroom disruptor. Odd how I can still tell you the names of the ones in each of my classrooms, but struggle with the names of my early friends from those days. Kids can be cruel.
@Christine_R
@Christine_R 2 жыл бұрын
I used Mars Black for mixing my own Indigo that is more interesting looking or dark muted greens with some granulation.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input! Indigo might just be the MVP of my palette! Makes for some great combinations 👍
@irene1234
@irene1234 2 жыл бұрын
This was very well done. Educational and respectful, not your typical anti-black watercolor bashing video.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and I’m glad you liked it! I despise judgment and anything condescending when it comes to art because everyone’s experience and style is so different! I’m glad it felt respectful 🥰
@NelaDunato
@NelaDunato Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those artists who couldn't live without Mars black, in any medium 😅 Naturally, not as a "shadow" color. But since before I started painting I was drawing in ink for years, I could never let go of black, and it's a prominent feature in many of my works, as a sort of "anchor" to chromatic colors. But recently I discovered a new watercolor black (Rembrandt Spinel gray PBk26) which is non-granulating and even darker than Mars black, perfect for a clean uniform black - to the extent it's possible in watercolor. If I want that pitch black, I've found that gouache works much better.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
I love that you stand by your choices! If deep black is your thing and your style, then I think that’s fantastic! Thanks for watching!! 💕
@TaraSueSalusso
@TaraSueSalusso 2 жыл бұрын
I use black India ink with watercolor when I’m trying to create a stark color contrast. I just purchased neutral hue which is a color from DANIEL SMITH intended to create the shading properties of colors without adding black. I haven’t tried it yet and look forward to seeing the outcome. I must say I love using India ink in my watercolor paintings.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been intrigued by India ink and what it can add, especially for things like line drawings over watercolors. Will definitely have to check it out 👍
@TaraSueSalusso
@TaraSueSalusso 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pointebrush Check out the panda that I have on my page. I have a close up with a boo-boo of a drop of India ink. Totally traumatizing. And then the final finished version. With that painting, watercolor is the background and the panda is done with the India ink. I have done to other endangered species also using India ink and watercolor. I’ll be posting those Hi-Rez images as soon as I get them.
@vickilee6335
@vickilee6335 Жыл бұрын
This is so well explained! I'm a beginner and have noticed what you're talking about. So I've been avoiding black. But there are some artists who use black so very well and it's what they're known for. Ex: Nicolas Lopez (brilliant work) And I also appreciate the video in which you explain finding your own style which will help you stand out from the crowd. You're a great teacher, Margot!!
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Vicki! I’m glad these videos resonated with you and I hope they help you along in your art journey! Thanks for watching! 🙏❤️
@Angie-pl3uw
@Angie-pl3uw 2 жыл бұрын
Using black, unless it is a beautiful granulating black, is best left to the pros. Or so I think. Using black on your hair, even when done by the best, results in the shoe polish look. And that I know!
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Shoe Polish! I know exactly what you mean! I don’t think that’s a visual I’ll forget anytime soon 😉😂
@susanmolinari2348
@susanmolinari2348 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing...I've been trying to make watercolor olives and have struggled with getting them dark enough without using black... really enjoy your videos.
@tutaart
@tutaart 11 ай бұрын
i always use black in my portraits Whether in background or hair but i never mix it with another color to make shadows
@stacys447
@stacys447 2 жыл бұрын
Super fun. I really love the granulation of Mars black (tree bark, ground, etc.) but I also loved your painting #2. Thanks for the super video. Very beautiful and fun!
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed it! 😘💕
@awatercolourist
@awatercolourist 2 жыл бұрын
I like to use chromatic blacks that I mix or the compliment of the colour to darken it. My black mixtures are PB29+PR101 (the classic 😄), PR176+PG7, and PB15+PR149. You can easily get off-blacks by varying the ratios.
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 Жыл бұрын
Oh I like that PB15 + PR149 combo, will have to try that!
@leslie-annepepin8927
@leslie-annepepin8927 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you!
@eileencollins3126
@eileencollins3126 Жыл бұрын
Although I have several different blacks, your video explains the benefits of mixing your own blacks and neutrals very well.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
I’m glad it made sense haha! And I’m not anti-black watercolor per se, it’s more that I think it should be used mindfully. What different blacks do you own?
@eileencollins3126
@eileencollins3126 Жыл бұрын
@Margot Hallac I have all of Daniel Smith's blacks except the two new Jane's blacks. I am missing some of the grays. I find color fascinating, and play with it a LOT. I don't think i have ever used black in a painting. I just discovered your channel and feel you have a bright future. Oh yes, I am from the Seattle area and am biased.
@thatswhatshesaid.literally737
@thatswhatshesaid.literally737 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate this viewpoint so much! You can definitely tell the difference of dull vs. lively in your two paintings. Alvarro Castagnet uses Daniel Smith's Lunar Black to achieve moody and textured darks because it turns any color into a dark granulating one, but he's purposely going for a muted look as you had stated in the end of your video. I love having the varying options when deciding what look I want a painting to have. Thanks so much! 🙏☺️
@jesmarco374
@jesmarco374 7 ай бұрын
The best black I find is made with Daniel smith bloodstone gen. and indanthrone blue by m-graham, bright and beautiful black
@lisathaviu1154
@lisathaviu1154 10 ай бұрын
Although I agree in theory with restricting black, I have made a 13-color palette that includes Schmincke s Graphite Grey. It makes some wild mixes, because the grains of pigment are much heavier than any normal watercolor pigment. Consequently, these mixes granulate like crazy. Also, I like to use pencil for making my initial drawings. Using a graphite color really incorporates the pencil into the drawing. Again, this is a very small palette and I tend to use this for paintings where I have used pencil.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 10 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa! It sounds like you know precisely what you’re doing with your graphite and black mixes! I think the bigger takeaway from this video is to know how to use black with intention instead of using it as a crutch to get darker values. Nevertheless sounds like you know exactly what you’re doing so keep doing your thing! 🙌
@shadowguard3578
@shadowguard3578 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting perspective Margot. I rarely use black, but I do have PBk11 to make granulating colors to play around and have fun with. However, I disagree with your opinion on your painting using black… I prefer it! You reminded me of a school trip I went on decades ago to an art gallery. The art historian was describing a painting the class and I were looking at. The historian said the use of browns and ochres created warmth in the painting. She then asked for my opinion and I said the opposite and that the browns and ochres gave me the impression of cold and damp weather! 😆
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! That’s exactly the reason why I feel like there should be no steadfast rules that apply to everyone. Creating and experiencing art is such a highly personal and intimate experience for everybody and what can delight one person can not be someone else’s cup of tea! Very often people (and that includes art critics and museum guides 😉) tend to regurgitate what they hear everyone else saying but I say it takes guts and courage to stick to your beliefs and opinions. I think that’s part of what makes art so wonderful! 👍👍👍
@shadowguard3578
@shadowguard3578 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pointebrush you’re welcome and I agree. 🤩
@appleknocker56
@appleknocker56 Жыл бұрын
As a beginner am grateful for this YT video. First used acrylic’s & works well in mixes. In water color and “chemically” black is the absence of color while white is combo of all but black! So do use black but (water it down) & if want warm “add more red”, cool more blue & even yellow. If use straight from tube does look flat. Ty..
@jacquelinewilliams6969
@jacquelinewilliams6969 Жыл бұрын
I think you're confusing light which is colour and pigment which absorbs colour so that only certain wavelengths are perceived by our eyes. In light white is the combination of all the wavelength compliments and black is the absence of all light. In colour pigments black is a combination of all the pigment compliments and is perceived as black because colour isn't refracted back to our eyes, while white is an absence of pigments. What she was saying in her video is don't add black pigment to darken values of hues on your paper, use the colour compliments of the hue you want to darken in different amounts to get your desired colour values.
@awatercolourist
@awatercolourist 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, PBk11 is a pigment I would like to try.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
PBK11 is one of the only blacks I can stomach 😂 Definitely worth a try, especially for the special granulation it brings to the table 👍
@awatercolourist
@awatercolourist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pointebrush Yes, that’s why I would like to try it; it’s granulation is quiet something. But i’d probably use it sparingly.
@actuallyfrankie
@actuallyfrankie Жыл бұрын
I rarely use black paint in my work, preferring to mix my dark hues out of complementaries or, more often, using Payne's Grey/Sodalite Genuine/Lunar Blue. I do own mars/lunar black PBk11, but only to mix with other colors in order to create granulating shadows! I am obsessed with granulation. 🤣
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
Excellent choices Frankie! I’ve never tried sodalite but I have to admit I’ve been eyeing it. And PBK11 is an excellent way to give granulation to deeper tones. Have you ever tried PBK11 with PV19 (Quin Violet)? It’s a lovely one 😉
@actuallyfrankie
@actuallyfrankie Жыл бұрын
@@Pointebrush I have not! I've only done it with the Quin Rose PV19! Will give that a go when I follow your ballerinas tutorial. Thank you again for your amazing channel, Margot!Am excited to order Pointebrush things later this year when I'm in the States as shipping to the Philippines is a bit touch and go!
@joykruczay
@joykruczay 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea to do a comparison. I do use black minimally for animals.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for sharing! 👍💕
@piekaboo
@piekaboo Жыл бұрын
I just found you this week and I love your videos. I started playing with watercolor a couple years ago, but have found it very frustrating. This video, and one I watched yesterday on using the same colors throughout your painting, "A Watercolor HACK that will change your Life" are game changers. I think this will get me much closer to the kinds of colors I love to work with. Thank you. I'm off to play!
@le2382
@le2382 8 ай бұрын
Black paint is a must-have for me, not for shadows so much as to add an atmospheric effect, moodiness or texture to a painting. That said, I can see where you’re coming from and I agree with not using black on its own, unless you want that effect.
@dee-ellencook763
@dee-ellencook763 Жыл бұрын
As a beginner, I have no illuminating comment to add, only to say that you are your own worst enemy as both of your paintings are absolutely beautiful!!
@nicoleperron3315
@nicoleperron3315 6 ай бұрын
I never used black but I came across an artist (Niaz Hannan watercolors) that uses almost only black and he does wonderful watercolors, so then I decided to buy graphite for watercolors by Faber-castell ti try them and being graphite they are black it's like a cross between watercolors and charcoal really interesting.
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 Жыл бұрын
But indigo and sepia are often made with black pigments! Also Payne's grey.
@shubhrasharma5889
@shubhrasharma5889 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos
@themightierpencil
@themightierpencil Жыл бұрын
My favorite "Black" is Perylene Green (PBk31) anyway LOL
@heathertroynak9041
@heathertroynak9041 Жыл бұрын
Gah, the images you chose to illustrate your point, so good. I especially loved the crystal glass with moving light refractions. So good. Indigo and Sepia, noted.
@katarinaholik
@katarinaholik Жыл бұрын
I use paynes gray sometimes but usually I add it to some other color like green or blue or red. I try not to use it straight from the tube. Pure black I never use. And I try to keep my shadows lively and not pure black.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
Payne's gray is wonderful! I love it too! What brand is your go-to?
@katarinaholik
@katarinaholik Жыл бұрын
@@Pointebrush I have Schmincke Payne's gray and it's rather neutral so I think I will switch to Payne's gray bluish by Schmincke or maybe some other Payne's gray that has a bit more blue. I like to have bluish or violet in my shadows. Been watching Louise de Masi, I think she uses W&N Payne's gray, it seems nice.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
@@katarinaholik Yes! W&N's Payne's is terrific and has a really pretty, dull bluishness to it that I think you would like given what you said about your preferences. Thanks for sharing!
@LCLand
@LCLand Жыл бұрын
Dear Margot I very rarely use black and I very much appreciate the tips to use dark colors for shadow and will be trying your black mix with a most hated indigo I bought years ago! I love your artistic license with dark colored jewel tones black swan dancer! Gorgeous! However. I can sometimes be a bit of a purist and given the choice would select the painting with the black clad dancer. I do wish that the tutu was the ONLY black in the painting. Indigo mixed swans and deep dark shadows. Paynes grays for other dark areas.…. I think the black tutu may have popped nicely, dramatically, without the additional black dulling the painting down. You did a really nice job adding black highlights a few times to undull the tutu. I would love to see that option! Oh do paint a quick follow up option 🙏🏼🤗
@kathleenstoin671
@kathleenstoin671 7 ай бұрын
I don't own any black paint, except for the paint I used for painting an old bookshelf. When I see a watercolor painting that uses black paint, I immediately feel a bit sorry for the artist. Blacks made by mixing other colors are alive and interesting compared to black paint, which is just dull and dead looking.
@jacksoncenterforthearts626
@jacksoncenterforthearts626 10 ай бұрын
When I use black I always add a color to it so it has the essence of one of the other colors in my palette.
@ellingtonfeint13
@ellingtonfeint13 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you picked Odile as example, because her original costume wasn't black either, just dark.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point! Over the years I think a lot of costumers have used black and maybe it’s because of that associations with being called “the black swan”. Black swans aren’t actually black either 😝
@Gigiridgway
@Gigiridgway 11 ай бұрын
I use black for negative painting
@onyxxxyno
@onyxxxyno 10 ай бұрын
"Don't use black" is my number 1 despised art "rule".
@jwall6006
@jwall6006 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a very good working artist, and said never to use black. Toss it out. It’s not a color. And white is only ok, as long as it’s not used with a transparent color. She was very right even though she used oil and acrylics and I use watercolor. So I use Paynes Gray which in my watercolor set is a very deep purple/indigo. But I’ve had some that’s also had a more green/indigo tone. White I only use for animal whiskers, strands of hair if I mix it with a light tone of color, or the light caught in an eye. If there is a light or a sun in a landscape, leave the bright area blank, paint around it. It’ll give it a beautiful glow.
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your mom and I share the same philosophy! Payne’s gray is a terrific choice and I have it in my palette too! Thank you for watching! ❤️
@onyxxxyno
@onyxxxyno 10 ай бұрын
Black is used very effectively as a color in eastern art traditions, I'm happy to ignore this "tip".
@franswey2
@franswey2 Жыл бұрын
❤😊👏💐
@rebeccaneef6070
@rebeccaneef6070 6 ай бұрын
Indigo Blue is part blue and part black. Sepia? Part red oxide and part black. So, umm, you're still using black.
@rosana_trave
@rosana_trave Жыл бұрын
Это похоже на магию - пачка балерины справа действительно воспринимается как черная
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@pamelameredith1762
@pamelameredith1762 Жыл бұрын
I don’t use black I make my own
@Pointebrush
@Pointebrush Жыл бұрын
Good choice! 👍
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