Shaneoblack Holy shit

no

Holy shit tell me about it. The first five minutes of the video explain perfectly why there's such a divide in pokemon fans; i didn't realize half the base started on DP... when i finished high school hahaha

Dude playing this game nearly 12 years ago says something

shaneoblack Oh man right? I still remember when I first got it, and I'm only 28.

My god, the horrible memories... I switch one pokemon from a party and PC box... "Saving a lot of data." Don't even get me started on the 6 Pokemon a day limitation in the DPPt's PalPark.

Why did I laugh out loud at this.

jiikuncorner amen

AbdallahSmash026#1Fan to u maybe but i hate that especially when u do something simple and then the game goes saving lot's of data

The clock thing spins 10 times I swear I counted

The thing that kind of annoys me is how whenever people defend Ruby and Sapphire they ALWAYS bring up Emerald and the much needed upgrades it brought but when talking about how they dislike diamond/pearl they don’t bring up how all those issues are subtly fixed in Platinum

That is why I always wait for the third version just like with emerald and I know is not good for the consumer cuz you have to played the next "full experience" version, but it come down to one thing... money😅

I recently played my old copy of platinum which I upgraded from pearl as a kid. I did not remember the pacing being this bad in pearl, and really hope they just remake platinum.

I know, Right? 😊😊

Mega Leaf Blade yes but as she says it’s only a bandaid

No, make it THE starter

No plz no

But surfing on a magikarp is sooooo ridiculous 😂

my man

Gen 4 Remake Exclusive Mon; Balloon Bidoof

Yup, gamefreak always does that, teching the player that a character had development through subtleties. Another good example would be Silver, he has a Crobat as part of his final team and the only way to get those is to evolve a Golbat via happiness and that means that he learned to care for his team.

Not only that but Silver also has a Gengar and Alakazam which means he probably found a friend to reverse trade with. If he stayed bitter and mean he would be stuck with the middle stages.

mrsylar91 Blue also had a Kadabra. Who did HE trade with

*I am going to fine that munchlax*

The Treyceratops Bill.

no its not

sammy lorince did you read the comment

This was the last region that really required HMs for navigation. Black and White onward slowly began to recant that kind of gatekeeping in exchange for more convenient forms, such as making HMs only needed for optional areas in Unova and Kalos to the PokeRides in Alola, and finally the Rotom Bike in Galar

Honestly I know the point of hoenn is that half of it is water but water on the GBA is never as interesting as different land environments.

Just because it's based on a real place, doesn't automatically mean it's good design or that it'll work as a map in a video game..

Black and white says hi

There's 1 in black and white with all like level 60 magikarp or something right above undella town

Good old Fisherman Andrew. ... I hate that guy.

As dumb as the 6 Magikarp guy is, I like having a trainer my underleveled Grass and Electric types can 6-0 sweep with no issue.

I used to dislike it happening in every game, but then I started using that specific trainer to help level up my weaker Pokémon. It helped that I didn't have to worry about super effective moves so early in the game. It's actually how I got my Budew to evolve when I first played through Platinum. It was my first time having a Roselia cause I didn't have any friends to trade with for my Emerald game. I actually liked that it wasn't mandatory to trade with someone else in order to enjoy any of the Pokémon games.

Name Definition of retro is recent past

ChippyGaming omg, Hey James!

ChippyGaming Mein Gott... You're here? You're the last person I would expect here 😛

ChippyGaming didn’t expect to see you here!

ChippyGaming chippy I love u

ChippyGaming I would have if I had a channel then

Agreed. Even though I kinda enjoy these games; more specifically Platinum, I won't denied it's criticism that the game has & some people will probably say " it's not that bad ". Oh! But it is.

I would hope Game Freak would make good remakes of these games but after Gen 7 and seeing how Gen 8 is about to turn out, I am not looking forward to any remake honestly.

@@jjc4924 isn't platinum a improvement though?

@@M3rtyville was gen 7 really that bad? I don't think so...

they are perfect

s/o to Marriland ❤️

TamashiiHiroka His ev training guide is the reason Im playing to this day.

One day I hope to emulate him by using my own team of Magikarp in Moon's Battle Spot. And also that one Cooltrainer from XD Gale of Darkness by having a team of pokemon that all know Self-destruct or Explosion and use only that for the whole battle. Just to make the other guy go "What the fuck? Who does that?"

Hey they had too make the plot look more interesting

Is that a The Lonely Goomba reference? :3

I felt like my head exploded around the 15th hour.

I don't think I have ever had a playthrough go more than hour 22 when I don't get sidetracked with Contests or trying to find specific pokemon or the optional areas like Iron Island.

Well, I defeated Cynthia in my 25th hour, so... I wasted time in some occasions, tho

Sword and Shield are not even 20 hours long and feel lacking in more ways than these games

RadiantChaos I never played gen 4 (I didn't even own a ds which is sad since I grew up with the gen four anime) but when I saw a map of sinnoh I thought to myself "this place is gigantic yet they didn't use most of the space"

RadiantChaos i sooo agree! I agree with all the points of Tamashii!😍😍😍😍😉 EVEN WORST , THE GAME IS FUCKING SET TO FUCK YOU IF YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE DUMB STARAVIA OR LUXRAY! LIKE WHY DOES FANTINA'S MISMAGIUS HAVE MAGICAL LEAF? WHAT OF I WANNA PLAY WITH BIBAREL?😤😤😤😤😤 So because i don't have the conventional combo of staravia x luxray , i have to grind at EVERY GYM! And don't let me talk about the berries! Also the Touchscreen was not goodely used at all.......... ALTHOUGH Gen 4 reaply helped competitive , connected everyone and was their first game on DS, and it could have been worse, and the graphics are good!😍😍😍😍😍 I am playing Platinum and like Gen 4 , bit it sure has it's flaws, even more cz it was Gamefreak's first experience on the DS!

RadiantChaos :o we got the same character as a profile pic

Raphaël Khoury Wtf man you dont need both of them in diamond/pearl

boomboy b If you had said, "this is such a giagantic place and yet they didn't you much of the space" it would've rhymed, no real reason for bringing it up, just thought it was neat.

How does this comment with over 180 likes *including Tamashii* have *NO replies?!!?*

Shakesphere quality my friend.

The Treyceratops idk XD

I like dogs and CHICKEN TASTES REALLY GOOD if its made by someone who knows what they're doing.

are you umbreonerick from Instagram

she's a twitch streamer. go check her out

darkclaydol nobody watches twitch

@@BhgDello999 Bullshit and you know it lol

That's the only moment I've been waiting for

But... but Ubisoft is still making Just Dance games for the Wii :D

Felicia is a really good Mage counter in FE:H

Severa4Life Except Reinhardt

Doctor Eggnog 50 MINUTES!? Didnt notice till you said so

Me too

Same

Chicken scratch Same 😂

I'm taken aback just from the cut up footage and logged gameplay.

HGSS are the perfect Pokémon games. All the good things of Gen 2 (Johto + Kanto) plus all the good things of Gen 4 (physical/special split, Wifi Connection, Battle Frontier). For me those will forever be the best Pokémon games.

@@TheoneandonlyBobb They were also the last pokémon games where Game Freak had the "all-in" mentality where they tried to outdo themselves and make the game as complete as possible. As a result HGSS was the last pokemon game that truly felt complete and not like something was left behind.

@@Absolute_Zero7 black and white 2:are we a joke to you?

@@joyconboyz4525 Black and White 2 fixed a lot of things but a lot of things were still missing. No battle frontier, Secret Bases and Berry Farming were limited to a no longer accessible online service, and the list goes on. BW2 were great games but they were at best side steps to HGSS

I feel even weirder because I started in gen 3 so I'm in the middle of the fire because people liking gen 1 and then you also have people liking Gen 4.

I pretend that Diamond&Pearl never happened. Platinum was the last overall masterpiece after Emerald. Then the rest is Gamefreaking stealing money with double releases of games, i don't care for how good Heartgold& Soulsilver were (despite that i think that Gen 2 is the worst gen of all time) and Black and White 1&2 (the last good gen), Platinum is just one game and has a lot of good things going for it for the price.

CandyEvie hey Lucy ur awesome I love ur pokemon videos

CandyEvie yeah,i agree it was worth a wait.What is your opionion on diamond and pearl

CandyEvie hi!

Lucy wassup I guess poketubers even go this far to watch others I didn't know Tamashii had connections with anyone

Amen

terriblethomas101 same

Now you know how us folks who started off with Red and Blue feel 😁😁

How many years make something retro?!

they werent launch titles they game out relatively late. I think Gold and silver were for the GB colour. Or maybe Im being dumb and there never were lauch(pokemon) titles.

I don’t really consider it retro because DS games are still backwards compatible with a current console but I still feel old

Never played sinnoh

Sinner!!;!! Lord have mercy on his pooor taste

you played it when you were 1 how could you love it lol

This video is noooot for you

@「 HoennKid202Wally 」 lmao

So everytime Tamashii uploads a video you have to see family you don't care about and get asked questions you rather not talk about? Seems tough.

Ugy Boogie 😂

Random Master LOL 😂 XD

ya

Random Master Tamashii is literally Christmas wearing a hat

Trust me, Unova is actually a lot less straight forward than you’ld expect. You probably wont even think its a circle like that unless you look at the Town Map.

@@Haha_You_Fool Respectfully disagree. When I first played Black and White as a kid, I didn't even really notice that the that the map was linear from the town map. It was only when I got to the 6th/7th gym did I realize how linear the map was. It becomes even more noticeable when you notice repetitive patterns in the map design and in the story structure. Go to a route, get into a dungeon, fight team plasma, sometimes there is more route to get through, sometimes you get into the city, fight Gym Leader. Sometimes they change it up by changing when you fight team plasma, or by forcing you to explore slightly beyond the city, but generally it follows that formula. Its linearity also makes exploration a lot less interesting, since most of it just falls down to "go to previous area with new HM move and you get an item". Sometimes you might find a cave with a legendary or a new route, but the amount of times you find that is minimal compared to Sinnoh or Hoenn. Sinnoh in particular had so much extra life in its world by having all of these different optional routes, such as the mansion on Route 212. Worst part is, the change in map design doesn't even address many of the issues Tamashii pointed out in this video. Backtracking still sucks since there are now 0 shortcuts to previous eras unlike Sinnoh where even though backtracking took a lot of time, you still had shortcuts such as the ramp north of Oreburgh. In the original Black and White, your only option is to backtrack through the entire progression of the game, on fairly long routes, but more importantly on giant bridges that while look cool and epic the first couple of times through, just drag on and on. It also doesn't help that the story doesn't commit to such a linear progression with there being moments where you have to go to previous areas to deal with Team Plasma, forcing to use HM Fly in a game that seemingly tried to significantly reduce the need of HM moves for the primary quest.

@@Absolute_Zero7 the map is less linear in black and white 2, just my opinion though.

The issue with the linear argument is that Unova is based on Jersey, Manhattan, Queens, and Brooklyn, all very organized and linear locations, there isn't much potential, which may just be a consequence of choosing an american city: ultimately the only positive of the map is the unique locations. ALL of Unova's locations look MUCH more diverse, identifiable and aesthetically pleasing, Virbank, Castelia, nimbasa, Driftveil, Opelucid, lacunosa, Undella, nacrene, compared to the just, what the hell of Sinnoh. Locations are recognizable and have some form of function: Castelia as the massive economic jewel of Unova, the presence of artists and cultural significance of nacrene, the tourist trap and Broadway aura of nimbasa, the grungy slums of Virbank, the village bridge and lacunosa as story tellingfeatures, etc. There's a fundamental emphasis on appeal and differentiation, while Sinnoh seems more idk, repetitive and just very unpleasant as a region. Even small things like the RVs scattered across Unova, the former castles, the subways travelling under bridges, and the bustling malls provide the region more personality

Heinrich Agrippa For sure they are. In my experience (as a predominately retro gamer) the retro community usually feels that anything that is more than a generation old is retro or if it's over a decade old. So the PS2, NDS, GameCube, Xbox, and even Wii are retro. A lot of people think of early PS3 and Xbox 360 as retro. Portables also get labeled as retro quicker as mobile technology jumped so dramatically within the last decade. We went from the NDS/PSP to the Switch, hell even the 3DS/Vita to the Switch was huge. Like the PSP feels retro, though so does the 3DS, especially the early titles. Compare that to previous jumps, GameBoy/Game Gear/Lynx to the GBA wasn't anywhere near the jump that the NDS to Switch was. GBC was a dumbed down NES and the GBA was a slightly better SNES (but with worse sound). The jump in mobile tech has been real since ~2006/7.

Damn, did I really type this two years ago?

You sure did.

I'm not dead, I am in fact doing great. Since posting this video I have gone back to school full time and gotten a job to support that so I just don't have any free time to work on any content. I appreciate the concern, but no content =/= might as well be dead! lol

Ok. That's a relief. Well I'm glad you're doing well. Just gave some of us a scare there. Still, glad you're doing well.

@@Tama-Hero hope your doing well i went through college and worked full time depressing and feels like world passes you by

How odd i came back to check this channel out just to see this be posted

RIGHT? Same exact thing happened to me

Lol hi

Over 10 years old... so yep.

For real, same af xD

And making time-stamps in the process, don't forget that.

thats super sweet of you

Wolfie Cat "Love the video" *video hasn't even been out long enough to watch it all yet*

British Chicken so? I had been enjoying it so far.

Wolfie Cat "No game is perfect." False, Red and Blue are perfect games, that's why they sold so many copies.

I completely agree.

paraGOnal tenDencies "red and blue are perfect games" holy shit you have to be wearing MASSIVE nostalgia glasses to think those glitch-filled, type-broken, battle-broken, (in MANY ways broken) and horribly sprited games are "perfect". lol

Ion McAdam yeah too bad she’s stopped making videos.

That's actually very disappointing. She has so much talent and her style is vastly different from everyone else's on the platform. Hopefully she's doing something that she is passionate about. No matter what that is though, if she puts the same level of time, care, and effort into her present/future plans as she did with her previous projects then it has to be of high quality. Besides, nothing is set is stone and like many comeback movies maybe she will return someday and be better than ever.

Ion McAdam she is fairly active on her Twitter, and it appears that she is working on another video.

She’s been fairly active lately, her ruby and sapphire review was really good and while I didn’t like the gold and silver as much I still loved it.

thewhatness Lysandre's motives were definitely clear. Maybe you just tapped A too many times.

thewhatness "But enough talk! I'll stop you with my team of like four level 40 pokemon!"

Yeah, Team Flare was all over the place. Gen 7 did it better, but SM have different issues.

Well, Lysandre was already setting himself up as a very capable, charismatic and eccentric man anytime you saw him before the big reveal. He, however, is also smart and prideful. He knows all the arguments that could be made about his views and has weighed them and has himself decided that his views are correct and that no one can sway his biases. So he carries on doing what he feels he has to do. The main issue is Team Flare who made it seem like they were only about *Style* and on their high horse. (just how team Galactic was in act 1 of DP) The reveal itself was pretty instant, not to mention the legendary Pokemon were never mentioned before their reveal even though they were a key part of their plan. However, Lysandre did express an interest in mega Pokemon which are linked to the flower canon thing. I'd say Lysandre's abit more fleshed out than Cyrus the character but Team Galactic seems more useful to Cyrus than Team Flare is for Lysandre.

Gen 6 was the best gen LUL

LinkinMark1994 and replaced it with a trolling fake statue.

Michael Switzer one *THICC* reason

Michael Switzer I think its awesome because of shinx!

bidOOF

Michael Switzer bidoof? Oh you mean HM slave right?

Yeah but that’s pretty much it.

The sound fonts in the GBA were pretty limited and they relied heavily on one or two for most of the songs in the game. So I can see how it was annoying for some people, and I have always hated how FRLG sounded. Ruby and Sapphire hit my specific nostalgia buttons though so that never bothered me as much.

TamashiiHiroka I can see how the FRLG Soundtrack doesn't quite do it for you. Or ehm... hear, rather. It's not exactly what I imagined those sound bits to be either. To me when I listen to Diamond/Pearl, black/white, even X/Y I feel like that's what they wanted Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver and Crystal to sound like if they could. It's what I imagine it to sound like listening to those chiptunes at least. Sound's a very interesting subject, isn't it.

How is this comment from 6 days ago when this video was roughly uploaded 4 minutes ago?

LangeManGlenn subbox

Razing Flame I was about to ask the same thing

Dertrex - I followed a similar route only I just skipped gen 2 and I got back into it after emerald. Pearl was the gen 4 game I played first and then I later got platinum which is def Top 3 Pokemon games of all time

they had less original pokemon because they gave 60 percent of old pokemon new cool evolutions

Dertrex - platinum is a whole lot better than Diamond and pearl.

Dertrex - You skipped third gen!!!

If you think Gen 4 is bad with Pokemon variety you should see Gen 5 Okay before Gym 1 not counting starters you can Have a Grass type, a water type, a fire type, a bug, flying, fighting, rock, ground, electric, psychic and poison type In gen 5 before gym 1 not counting starters you have Normal and Dark and maybe a Grass/Fire/Water type if you really want the monkey to count Seriously you have a good 40 Options available by Gym2 while in gen 5 you have literally 8, 9 if you really want to count Audino

Yeah, the mid-late DS era of Pokémon games was the series prime, even the spinoffs like Mystery Dungeon Time/Darkness/Sky and the Rangers games. There's so much care and content put into each succeeding mainline title. What followed with the underwhelming DP were robust experiences that utilized the DS hardware greatly, although not at its best. Tamashii put it best when she said single player content took a backseat as online play and connectivity became more prevalent. The later DS titles, especially the Gen 5 games had the best of both worlds, offering side content like Underground Tunneling, Join Avenue and Battle Subway - and later Pokémon World Tournament - that can be played alone or with other people, as well as normal online play. Nowadays, online features like PSS and Secret Bases in ORAS arguably beatout aspects of multiplayer before with how accessible they are, but I feel the overall singleplayer experience stumbled.

AeroFlash15 Sun/Moon improved the single player experience with the story/relatable characters.

The DS era, has some of my favorite Pokémon games of all time. And just to list the highlights: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Blue Rescue Team Platinum HeartGold/SoulSilver Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky Black/White Black 2/White 2 They really did an incredibly amazing job, as gen 4 is my favorite generation of Pokémon, followed up by 5, Mystery Dungeon Explorers being my favorite game of all time, Black and White having my favorite story in the main series games (yes, including Sun and Moon), and of course, HeartGold and SoulSilver as well Black and White 2 being some of the biggest main series Pokémon games to date.

+Gera WallStar Gen 5 had a good story and characters too, as well as sizeable side content. Sun and Moon, while excellent with the characters and Pokémon, felt barebones with little to do after completing the main story. There was nothing really "improved" when both Black and White games and ORAS had reasonably good stories as well.

I agree the gen 4 and 5 games the best. My favorites. But she does still bring good points like everything was fixed in platinum from diamond and pearl.

One of many, many reasons why these games need to be remade. The originals are just no longer good enough.

If you read through the comments I wouldn't say you're an oddity :) Gen 4 is also my favorite and I've been playing since Yellow came out.

Platinum was kind of a remake but I know that isn't what you meant. I know they will eventually remake these games and it will for sure fix some problems but I think there will be new problems. I think they will treat you like a 2 year old in the remakes like every Pokemon game from X and Y on wards have. I am probably going to get a little hate for sort of slagging off Sun and Moon but I did like them. Just I think they were way to easy and were no where near as good as most people think. At least to me.

I agree. Black and White were fast paced and the story made sense, they and BW2 felt polished. XY are somewhat bland, SM have extremely strong pros but also massive weakpoints.

I agree with that. But also ORAS was way too simplified, especially for it being a remake of a perfectly fine game. They out right give you a Legendary and it just felt very simple. Sure I liked all the Pokenav stuff and I am not a multiplayer guy but for just the main game, I'd rather play R,S,E.

Eh, with writing skills like that... maybe a 2-year-old's game is warranted. Can't really put in my 2 cents since I burned out on Pokemon after I lost 2 copies of Pokemon X and replayed it a third time. But every game gives you a legendary, it's only really your fault if you kill it. Also, i had a hard time with X's elite 4 because of my team comp; it was crap. Low leveled, lack of good type coverage, and lop-sided exp. Then i learned Barbaracle curb stomps them :x

KRX50 "More than any previous games before", just how???? Must I remember you that by the time we got to the first ds games, the only Johto games were gameboy, all-in-8-bit games ? That is what I call OUTDATED. Diamond and Pearl in comparison are still playable on the actual support, no 8-bit limitations and even have 3D graphics in them. They're far from outdated, just aged a bit.

Nathan Njose Eh, I played through both just to get the version exclusives you can’t get in Platinum for some reason :/

Nathan Njose you are totally correct

Nathan Njose Diamond and Pearl are almost unplayeable too, so glad Platinum speed things up and made a way better plan

Me because I didn't have money and didn't know Platinum would be so different.

Nathan Njose Same. I love Sinnoh and Platinum was the best representation.

I don't know that she did hit the nail on the head, really. Maybe the people that are super harshly defensive of their D&P love started with them, but I'm not entirely convinced that it's a majority. Fair warning, this post ended up WAY longer than I wanted it to be because I'm too passionate about this gen, lol. I grew up with the original games as well, and played each gen. I remember waiting excitedly for the release of R&S for the first ever full color pokemon games, really wanting Sapphire version - of course I ended up with Ruby, but hey, I got over it. Hell, I remember waiting excitedly for G&S, and rumors from all the other little 7 year olds like me at the time about the mysterious new pokemon 'pikablue'. Aka, Marill, of course. My favorite game, for the /longest/ time, was silver - I clocked in 500 hours of gameplay on it... the first time. Until I started glitch cloning things and such, and my file was corrupted. Played another 300 hours after that. I remember every little nook and cranny of the game by heart. I have no idea how I had that kind of attention span. Fast forward into the DS era, and D&P were released.. To 14 year old me, they were somehow so.. mystical. Get ready for a long paragraph of stuff you already know, cus it all just excited me so much; The idea of the lake guardians and how they interacted with the player (aka the vague lore of them being guardians and such, involved in the plot as a whole, etc) reminded me of what I wished celebi would have been. There was chatot, that I could speak to, and use whatever I said as an attack with! A flower pokemon, cherrim, that bloomed in the sun! Honey you could spread on trees to attract new pokemon. A cute penguin starter that became water and /steel/ type. Pokemon with different colors depending on their gender! Lots of interactable interesting pokemon in the world that WEREN'T legendaries like rotom and spiritomb, /new eeveelutions/ after a whole generation of nothing - don't even get me started on how much I loved the canalave library. The whole darkrai/cresselia dynamic was great to me, there were evolutions to pokemon from the first generation that never felt powerful enough (magmar, electabuzz, etc)... there were cool poketch features to collect /during/ gameplay for the bottom screen (even though you never used them), I could customize my pokeballs personally however I wanted, ribbon collecting became a /must/... Hell, I even loved the underground, and WISH they would've remade it on 3ds JUST to do that with full online capability or streetpass capability. And they made a pokemon GOD, which I've been DYING for them to actually use in a game for real, and a remake would be a fantastic time for it. Just, I could go on and on. There were so many features that I didn't think about before, that I didn't even know I wanted, that were in these games. With all that said, D&P still didn't beat out Silver, to me... but then Platinum came around. And ooooh boy, do I love platinum. ESPECIALLY giratina's dimension. Platinum felt a bit better, fixed some things, added a bit - and that's my all time favorite game, and has been ever since. I'll admit it's a really, really slow gen, and didn't do some things fantastically - and I see its faults, and understand why most people /don't/ love it... but that's why I want it remade.

I mean, I personally started with Yellow version and yet DP is still my favorite gen

I started with Yellow aswell and I haven't completed any game after Gen 3, yet I have bought every new game when they came out. DP I played till 4th gym, Black 5th, X around 5 aswell and latest, Sun, I played only for 30 minutes just to realize that I don't really care about them. Yet I replay Fire Red every now and then. Soul Silver is great tho and in my opinion the best.

I've been playing for 18 years, and started with Red/Yellow. 4th and 5th gen are my favorites, so I kindly disagree. Excluding Mega-Evolution, I love most of the changes and additions to the series.

I'm about the same age as you (started with Yellow) and I thoroughly enjoyed Diamond/Pearl, though Platinum was definitely better. The changes they added, like the physical/special split and WiFi battling were amazing, and I was able to fully appreciate them since I was older and could see how far the franchise had grown. I did think the regional dex for D/P was pretty bad, but they fixed it in Platinum.

All Usernames Taken route 209 tho 👌

I started with gen 3 but I don't really like much music or anything from gen 4. For some reason I probably likely gen 5 and especially the music from it.

You could literally say that about any Pokemon region. The music is always great and the region's always look great. Well, maybe not always for that one.

The whole atmosphere is just great. We are talking about Super Metroid levels of great. Who doesn't remember the rainy route? I have to admit the music is half of it, but still.

The underground bases is what really sold things to make it my favourite generation. I started with gen 2, then gen 1, gen 3, then this. And it's easily my favourite because online play became a thing back then, but thankfully the series wasn't so bloated at the time.

Lol

When was Angry Joe angry?

Anicée Amet well I’d argue if it took a year to finish a pokemon game, there is something wrong with the games design. I take my time with completing the games, especially when I replay them, and it’ll take me a couple of months to finish them usually. I do think there is a difference in playing the game as a kid as opposed to do it as a teenager/adult. As a kid we have ALL the time in the world to play the game in a way where it takes a year to finish, when we get older we don’t have that kind of time anymore. I remember being a kid playing Pokémon Silver and doing all of the events and it taking almost a year to finally get to Red. As an adult I can do that in a fraction of that time, it’s not because I rushed through it, it’s because I played it in a way that progressed through the game normally. Sorry you didn’t like Sun, I had my own problems with it. Maybe the next installments will have better pacing and stuff to do that will make the experience enjoyable for both of us.

Just because you took your time playing a game as a kid doesn't mean this game's cripplingly slow pace isn't a negative attribute.

Sure, it's a journey... but... a year is a bit much... no, it's way too much. Sure, if you take a year because of all the extra stuff, that'd be one thing... also, it's HOW it makes you take time. It's like making an anime series longer by adding filler that feels needless. Like, if it's slow because it has a lot of content, then it's one thing, but if it's slow because you are trudging through mud... yah....

But in reality, I bet if there were no roadblocks, the game would take half the time. And the post game still pales in comparison to the length of Gen 2 with Kanto AND Stadium 2.

I guess if you were a kid, it's understandable you took a year... when I was like 4-7 my older brother let me play his copy of Pokémon White 2, and I never even beat Cheren because I didn't even know what levels were. I literally just charged at him and get thrashed by his Patrat using Work Up. When I picked the game up again when I was 11-12, I finally beat him by the hair of my head because I was too lazy to grind my Riolu.

Yeah but she completely ignored Platinum

28:38 to 30:07 Talking about how Platinum patched up and improved on Diamond and Pearl is completely ignoring it?

You obviously haven’t played the Unova games then.

Its Ya Boi, Guzma No, I have, I just think the Giratina scene is better than those. That's not saying I didn't love those moments in Unova though.

It’s probably just me but, 9 year old me thought that Giratina looked kinda derpy when I first played the game.. I don’t know why but I thought it was funny when Giratina took Cyrus

Warm Lillie me to

Warm Lillie I missed all of her, not just her back!

ffs it's you're* - are you really meaning to say "her back"?

Warm Lillie Yeah she's my fave happy she's back!😀

Warm Lillie 👀

it sounds like people are wasted drunk at 0.75 speed. *flashbacks to the drinking game video

The high pitch still gave me a headache though.

+William Tamashii did a drinking game video?

Yeah I agree, a lot of the problems that exist in X & Y were also problems I had with Diamond and Pearl. X & Y probably dealt with similar growing pains that Diamond and Pearl did due to moving to a new console, but they didn't give as much a shit that time around so instead of a game that's messy cause of poor decisions, it's a shallow game that's messy cause they just wanted to get a Pokemon game on a new console. IMO, the real definitive 3DS pokemon games are ORAS and SM. And maybe USUM if those are good.

Paolo Zambrana Nah Sun and Moon pacing is pretty disgraceful and it's far worse than XY and DP combined

Kaleb Grayheart I'd say that it's more of the slow-ass animations' fault, but yeah, they did have some pretty bad pacing issues.

KurataTrigger yeah you keep saying that maybe someone will believe you

Kaleb Grayheart D/P of course. X/Y may have bad pacing, but they didn't suffer from the slow mechanics of the game like D/P did