Which Pokemon aged the worst in your opinion?

The devs getting rid of Signal Beam still confuses me to this day. It was one of very few special attacking bug moves, had a decent base power, was the only bug type move that caused confusion, and provided both good coverage and stab to mons that needed it. It’s not like some of the other axed moves that were either extremely niche/situational or had very limited distribution, Signal Beam was on most fully evolved Pokémon.

There’s pokemon like Deerling & Sawsbuck who aged poorly for different reasons. They were specifically designed to show off one of a then-new games features which were abandoned in the next one

I love Articuno. I traded him to Silver and swept the elite 4 over and over again. He was my first level 100 ever.

A big part of celebi's fall off is that bug was it's biggest weakness and before gen 5 that didn't matter. Bug barely had any moves worth worrying about, let alone things that could hit with STAB. Then gen 5 rolled around bug became an actual attacking type

6:57 While Metagross appreciated its Mega and Fairies in Gen 6, Gen 6 also made it so Steel doesn't resist Dark and Ghost anymore, and in turn, making it so Steel no longer cancels out 2 of Psychic's biggest weaknesses. This sped up regular Metagross's downfall even faster because not only did it have to be more fearful of fast Ghost and Dark sweepers, but it got much more vulnerable to priority moves such as Shadow Sneak and Sucker Punch.

What really killed Metagross was the steel-type losing its resistance to ghost and dark in gen 6

There's also a Pokémon I like which aged poorly : Machamp. The dude started being good in gen2 and is an OU mon in the gens 3 and 4, getting buffs after buffs : Gen 2 Special split buffs its Special Defense, Gen 3 gives it Guts, which makes burning it dangerous and Gen4 gives it No Guard which allows it to perform its famous Dynamic Punch sets. It was a serious threat back then but in Gen5, Conkledurr starts stealing its spotlight with its better bulk and offense along with the access of Drain Punch which allows it to use better its longevity. In Gen6 the Fairy type's introduction along with Assault Vest which gives Conkledurr a good enough Special bulk to completely outclass Machamp as a slow bulky Fighting type in OU Unlike Conkledurr, Machamp suffers from the lack of bulk, Drain Punch to have longevity and Mach Punch for STAB priority while the fighting type competition grows stronger each generation. We had to wait until PLA to see Machamp using those two moves for the first time (While Hariyama, its Hoenn cousin, also got robbed like Machamp and had to wait Scarlet and Violet to get Drain Punch). While it didn't end up as trash as some Mons in the video, Machamp is now a shadow of its former self. Edit : Okay so Machamp is bad in gen3 OU. Thanks for correcting my mistake.

Maybe you should do another video like this one of but unrelated to competitive, just, for example, for mons that lost the gimmick they were created for. The most obvious example of this is Chatot. Its whole thing was its signature move being able to record sound and play it as its cry... which it no longer does, effectively making this mon pointless now. One could also mention Unown, which lost its ability to hit physically when the physical/special split happened (except with struggle).

hoW DARE YOU REASONABLY AND LOGICALLY EXPLAIN CELEBI'S WEAKNESSES?!?!?!?!?! WHAT ARE YOU A CELEBI HATER??!?!?!?!

I think a lot of pokemon need updated types and abilities. Celebi Grass/Fairy is a must. And stuff like pressure on legendaries needs to be thrown away and never mentioned again. Exclusive powerful abilities now.

I fell like the moment flygon fell was the moment garchomp was introduced

I felt like Zoroark aged poorly for a while until the Hisuian Form came out, and it’s highly loved.

Jynx also fell off competitively. She was great in Gen 1 and still threatening in Gen 2 before becoming useless as Psychic and Ice fell off really hard as types and sleep wasn't enough to save her from her extreme frailty.

Jolteon doesn't surprise me since Eeveelutions usually don't fair well in the modern metagame, but boy was he good in Gen 1. He actually stood a chance against Mewtwo

I know that Gengar is still good, but the fsct that they removed Levitate from him still hurts me, since he's my favourite pokemon. I still don't understand the reason, he wasn't that broken, and from a lore perspective it makes a lot of sense, since he's a ghost that flies all the time

It's sad how they nerfed Greninja's Protein. But I guess it makes sense seeing how every Pokémon can now be a different type due to the crystals.

11:16 I really don't know why Gamefreak stripped away some good moves in gen 8. I can get Hidden Power so that no Pokemon gets a free different type max move but moves like Return and Signal Beam did nothing wrong.

Metagross is still really solid despite not being absolutely oppressive like it used to be. It still has a great ability, impressive typing, decent bulk and a solid move pool with a variety of options to fit various rolls in teams. It's still really versatile and once it's added to Scarlett and Violet will still continue to see competitive usage.

Talonflame has been incredibly good in gen 9 VGC from day 1. Until a better tailwind setter is introduced i doubt it's going anywhere

I’d love to see a similar video about Pokemon most affected by the physical/special split. There’s plenty who could finally use their STAB with their better attack stat, like Gyarados and Gengar, and I’d love to know Pokémon that got screwed over by moves becoming special or physical

Bro, Ninetales and Sun as a whole even fell off in Gen 5 after Arena Trap’s ban and Drought + Chlorophyll.

Thank you for referencing FSG & his coin of Rampardos Theorem. Maybe a video on the reverse who did age well can fit in next, another reference to FSG's video on ones who got better or had potential realized overtime?

Chansey and Blissey also tumbled REALLY fast after staying on top for SO long.

Man I feel bad for Metagross. He is one of my top 10s but every single gen other than gen 4 nerfed it in one way or another. Gen 5 nerfed its best move and gen 6 removed two of steel's resistances that were huge for it because it made dark and ghost be super effective into it which are the two best types. Gen 7 also added z moves that could ko Metagross very easily and metagross itself couldn't use it because it wanted its mega stone to be good in ou. And in gen 8 dmax made it even easier to beat Metagross although Metagross can use dmax effectively too. Kind of interested to see how terastal will work for it although it isn't gonna be ou at all considering the ghost types and steel types that do what it does way better

Sableye, Mawile and Beedrill after losing their Mega's 🙁 Edit: Hypno after the special stat split, should had more Special Attack.

Metagross might have gained a favourable matchup in gen 6 against fairy but because they also changed steel to no longer resist dark and ghost he gained two new weaknesses.

Gotta love power creep. But honestly, with 1k pokemon, it's impressive that it isnt as bad as in... lets say yugioh

I think Tyranitar has fallen off too. It’s time in the spotlight has ran out especially now that it has a new weakness, lost pursuit and it’s weather isn’t no longer infinite. Also the greninja nerfs hurt it a lot and that really hurts for me because I love it

I think it'd be a great addition if signature held items couldn't be knocked off. After all in most cases they're signature because they're part of the pokemons design. Might help marowak at least a bit

I think all the Eeveelutions deserve a buff. Give them all more moves and slightly buff their stats and I think they'll see more usage.

That hurt me personally. My poor baby! Jolteon has always been my favorite pokemon, and having to remember its fall from grace, and how good it used to be, it hurts me deeply :( my poor precious

I really liked the shade you casted on that jagoff Tom Brady at the beginning, but I have to ask since I’ve been waiting for a while. When are you going to do the best type for generation 9? You’ve done pretty much every other generation/game, and I’m really curious as to what’s the best type to use in scarlet and violet.

The special attack stat didn't even matter for Tauros. Normal type moves were all physical up until gen 4, so it would be launching stab base 100 attack, base 150 power attack with potentially no recharge.

Metagross is set to return to gen 9 in the DLC like in gen 8, as metagross is going to be within the Indigo Disc DLC

Surprised Starmie didn’t make the list. 6 gens of OU despite getting no bonuses, followed by plummeting to obscurity. Maybe given Illuminate makes no sense anymore they’ll give it a really awesome ability!

They did psychic type so dirty. Imagine if they changed celebi, jirachi, and victini from psychic to fairy type. All three would be way better.

Metagross’ biggest stealth nerf was steel losing resistance to ghost and dark. It’s psychic type is now a liability and knockoff/pursuit (when it was in the game) were like an instant delete button.

If you do another one of these videos you should mention kantonian Persian. Pretty similar story to Tauros actually.

Man, Jolteon and Flygon are some of my favorite pokemon. They were done so dirty.

Celebi needs to be Grass Fairy I know Psychic was like the "legendary type" but now it needs to change and maybe get a signature move, though something like Future signature would be cool

tbh seeing jolteon made me so happy… i was watching a vid the other day where someone called it a mid pokémon and i was so emo about it, i almost always opt for jolty when i want an electric type on the team

I'm greatly offended that you'd insult my cousin, Honda Civic, like that. How dare you.

I'm forever mad they didn't make celebi a grass fairy since it literally says it's an onion fairy

Metagross got worse with each passing gen introducing new debuffs for it. Meanwhile other pseudos like Dragonite got multiscale, Tyranitar stayed in OU for most of its existence or they just make OP pseudos like Dragapult

John dunking on Tom Brady isn’t something I had on my 2023 bingo card lol

Hm, how very interesting, I can see where you come with these, i wonder what other Pokémon aged poorly and if they can make a comeback somehow? I will look forward to see what you come up with next.

Sad to say but for me it’s Talonflame, especially after his nerf

Oh man, as an elder fan this whole video just kinda hurt my soul. I remember the glory days (or miserable ones because I never liked Talonflame) with basically all of these and have trained up versions of most. My roster of "competitive" mons reaches all the way back to my copy of Sapphire from 2002

There's also the Gen 8 Fossil Pokémon. They aged poorly because neither them were reconstructed right...

Tauros was a menace for one of the seasons in swsh, but that was about it 😅

cool video! an opposite video exploring pokemon who got better with age will be great

one of the funniest out of context thumbnails of all time

Instead of poorly aged ones, how about ones that started bad but became better in later gens? I guess Politoed and Ninetales count for that list, but there's also Machamp, Mawile, Dragonite, etc.

Can we get a video on when each type had its strongest gen

Jolteon will always be my favorite Electric type, don't care if how outclassed he is now... he will always be my favorite in any form, any media...

The fact they are able to change a Pokémon's Ability between Generations really shows that they can easily buff or nerf a Pokémon for that alone. They should tweak Tinkaton's abilities and even her stats.

I was thinking to compensate for the loss of hidden power after this gen they keep tera types in not teraratilizing just tera types and tera blast and make some other moves that use either yours or your opponents tera type for attacking or even defending still thinking out how it would work

I'm sad about Talonflame and Jolteon

NOT THE TITLE WITH THAT THUMBNAIL, GOD, IM TRAUMATIZED

That Honda Civic is going to last until the end of time lmao.

poor Jolteon. And Variety scout as well kinda killed it :( Oh wells.

the entire normal type has aged poorly. it used to be the best type in gen 1 and for several years now it has only one representative in OU. it got lucky to receive hisuian zoroark now in gen 9.

Tauros won a STACKED Regional this year, so I don't think it should count for this list lol

idk if bro forgot about physical special split. hyper beam was physical in gen 1

Man I miss Pokemon Stadium 2. Stupid me left it with one of my best friends in HS, and he apparently "couldn't find it" when I asked for it back. Even looked myself, and the other N64 games were there but not that. RIP to all the mons my brothers and I had stored on it.

I would love a "Pokemon that Aged Well" version of this video. Any excuse to talk about my boy Azumarill

4:30 That joke was a classic! I literally lol'd at that one. Sad but true.

I feel like most of the recent videos can be summed up as "here's all the Pokemon that suck now"

Mi comadre Jynx siempre getting the short end of the stick :'( Pero tu fandom es eterno mija

Fun fact- Articuno was able to win a regional tournament in May 2024.

Many of the female Pokemon aged extremely poorly just like a Christmas Cake (after Christmas, it is useless) Latias went from OU in gen 3 to Untiered in gen 8. Chansey went from OU in gen 5 to PU in gen 9. Cresselia went from UU in gen 4 to untiered in gen 8-9. Zacian went from banned from Ubers to OU. Kangaskhan was Uber in Gens 6-7, but is now worse than most little cup Pokemon. Lunala is low tier Uber.

Man that thumbnail is vicious lmaoooo

Since Jolteon is one of my top favorite pokemon and one I used ALL the time through many of the games up until recently as my main Electric Pokemon, I genuinely get angry at how badly they nerfed Jolteon in the last couple of games. I didn't even want to bench my Jolteon, but it just kept getting out classed by other mons.

Whats the problem with jynx? i didn´t get it. I love it the same way I love other pokemon with human traces.

Is the car in LA that’s being broken into clip from Slime trying to get back Ludwig’s car in LA?

Yeah, Talon’s fine now, though that’s from my VGC perspective as I believe it’s still not the best in singles. It has a niche and sticks to it, thing has seen a lot of tournament usage and has consistently seen good usage in ladder play. Honestly would say it’s just a healthier mon for the meta now.

I believe mega Metagross was an Uber at some point. Surely that was a good time for it. But I guess (almost) every Pokémon with a mega fell off after gen 7

Hmm… well, I’m not sure if Paldean Blaze Tauros counts, because I made it all the way to master rank with my Blaze Tauros in SV, he’s been the MVP of my competitive team.

I get that it's a thing to dump on Tom Brady but the dude was in the top 10 in almost every major statical category last year with a terrible O-line and revolving door at WR. Not to mention he was 45 and going through a divorce. He never fell off a cliff. There were still teams who were planning on pursuing him before he announced his retirement.

As a person who doesn’t care about competitive Pokémon I feel like it’s an inaccurate representation of Pokémon that aged poorly

Poor Jolt. I just recently got a shiny too.

4:56 - yeah, this one hurts. You're still a winner in my book, Fly-Boy.

Starmie fell off pretty hard around gen 6 like Jolteon. Unfortunate, it's my favorite Pokemon...

Celebi could use a new form, oh and it should be grass/fairy, why doesn't it get any love?

Garchomp fell from ou in gen 9. Mostly thanks to baxcalibur, great tusk and gliscor. Weavile also fell hard in gen 9 thanks to losing triple axel and chien pao replacing it.

Can we get video on the best and worst anime exclusive towns

Talon flame is used right now in doubles

That thumbnail is on point 😂 my favorite of all time

The Flygon one hurts my soul a little. The poor guy is just always getting ignored.

Your intro is AWESOME! lol

Tyranitar fell of really hard in just one generation. Tera doesn’t benefit Tyranitar since it likes staying a rock type for the Sp. def boost. Lots of new threats like Dondozo and Great Tusk making it weaker both offensively and defensively. The removal of pursuit also didn’t help but it still managed to hold on without it until this generation.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention sceptile since it’s signature move is basically unusable due to the physical and special split hurting it’s capabilities

What's a Tombrady? Is that from one of the spin-off games?

I'm not sure how relevant Ninetales was even in weather wars. I hardly ever saw it, and my own experiments with it went nowhere. The meta was dominated by rain and sand, as each had many viable options to use.

Gengar losing levitate was pretty devastating. I used to fear Gengar when I saw him on the team preview screen. Now?? That thing is a joke...I literally wall him with several options!

Talonflame’s funeral was held on the following Tuesday Jpr 2023

2:25 not my poor man *GINKO* :(

At least Articuno still has a dope design and a buffed up regional variant.

I just wish each few gens we soft reset so pokemon could get completely new stats/movepools/abilities. You really can't do much to make bad pokemon better if they have to be in line with earlier versions of themselves.