I have been a cloysterbro since forever I'm so happy it's getting the power it deserves

Bro, I just did a Gen 1 mono water Challenge run and Cloyster carried.

I happened to catch a cloyester end of one run, it came in clutch, and that was before this

imagine a cloyster and mega heracross fusion

Cant wait for my pop bomb cloyster with silk scarfs:)

100% Hypnosis

Can't poliwrath get dynamic punch too?

@@SC_Silver_99 yep

I didn't get why they got it but the document said "don't knock it till you try it" but wow yeah seems like he has a strong set with it, no matter which evolution you end on

@@SC_Silver_99 yeah but when he talked about Poliwag he only talked about the benefits Poliwrath would get, so he mentioned Dynamic Punch in the video.

Oh! Now thats something. Yesterday i hatched an epic shiny sentret haha

So does zigzagoon now

So does Zigzagoon, which is unfortunate, because it makes them feel too similar.

Zigzagoon is the same but flipped and is better for endless as when you fuse them later you keep runaway instead of pickup

​@user-tl6qo4ck7c it depends on what you're fusing with. If you're trying to keep the other mon's actual ability or their passive

Oooh yes, Ogerpon was cracked. Ivy Cudgel basically had 4 types that you could pick between every turn.

Same bruh I just finished farming candies today That ability is such a huge nerf

This, having the groudon, having the swampert, the Greninja. I hate this update

Same. Such a sad day

I just unlocked it today 💀

Yo I just got tink’s 30th candy today wtf

Trace basically takes Truant away, no way that's anything but OP

Only really matters in classic, in endless mode you could always replace it with a way better option via splicing. Trace is actually relatively pretty bad for endless unfortunately.

@@gururaven Splicing makes the BST an average between the two pokemon if i recall, thus splicing slaking with anything would make it's stats considerably worse. correct me if im wrong. so no, i think it does matter in both. but, from what i know, raw damage just isn't enough past a certain point in endless.

In most cases the mons with weather/status abuse/huge power/type specific boosts are generally going to be far better. In this game slaking doesn't have any other power on its side and even nullifying the bad ability doesn't go far enough.

@@Baby-Blue-102 you splice him with something complimentary - like a mega Mawile for example. Raw damage stops working around 2500-3000 depending on who your carry is and how you built it.

Can also run protect with 3 decent coverage moves, later into endless heal moves fall off as your health is way higher than enemies, better to fuse with something like primal Kyogre to get drizzle and origin pulse, thunder, ice beam and protect

*war flashbacks*

the only problem is parental bond not being implemented yet, I´ve had a tier 3 shiny Deino from day 1 and is like not having a passive :(

@@j.hadensthat sucks, parental bond isn’t even that good anyways

iirc, you can get candies by catching that mon in the wild

Or worse, the balance team changes them and you wasted time grinding for nothing

Yeah that kinda sucks... is only worth it if you get really lucky with shinies to get the candies

The point is that the mons that you like using get better the more you use them. The alternative wouldn't make sense - which is just that all pokemon get these power boosts by default and there's nothing to work toward.

Zacian says hello and disagrees.

I feel like you have this mixed up. They seem to still be trying to keep things thematic, but even single player games need to be balanced to keep the game entertaining. There isn't a lot they can change about individual pokemon (passive and cost) with the goal seeming to be to give every starter a niche, and a lot of previous passives were either too centralizing or problematic (Meowth lost all coverage due to normalize). Some examples of thematics being chosen for the changes: Tinkatink got nerfed to a more thematic passive, losing power but getting a passive that literally describes what the line is based on (blacksmiths). Misdreavus is a big winner on both theme and power, since it got Beads of Ruin (powerful and very thematic) instead of Dazzling (okay and mildly thematic). Igglybuff got Huge Power as a reference to the Mystery Dungeon games, where Wigglytuff was far stronger than you may expect. Throh gets Stamina over Simple, which fits very well for the Judo pokemon, and is mechanically relevant to its payback style moves.

This exactly. A lot of these new ones just feel thrown together or to make them super strong

Nah. You gotta understand that it is very grindy to unlock a passive ability, you have to make those passive abilities good enough to encourage the players to actually want to grind for it. A huge amount of mons had passives that absolutely 0 people grinder for

Yeah but making bad pokemon have really good passives even if it does fit it thematically allows for more pokemon to be available for runs and not just having only a handful that you can use

There just needs to be a balance between thematic fun, and feeling strong enough to both be worth spending the candy on in the first place. And I think overall they strike a good balance, especially with a lot of the current passive changes.

Same with Golisopod

Top tier idea tbh even if it doesn’t make as much sense for the Pokémon it’s definitely a lot more interesting and you don’t feel as bad about healing them to use em

Bugs have incredible regenerative abilities

Snow warning on Articuno is def crazy good. It has Snow Cloak, which means that the guaranteed snow will boost defense by 50%, boost evasion by 20%, and make blizzards never miss (technically boosting accuracy by 45%)!

Thank goodness someone said this, I was looking through the comments dumbfounded that bo one was making this clarification. Flower Veil honestly is very underrated anyways- Status immunity immediately without weather.

So flower veil is kinda like Good as Gold but it also applies to your partner in doubles...yeah that's actually very good

@@flamingythermit314 For the most part, but arguably better- it stops all status and stat drops so icy wind, Intimidate, lunge (for a random assortment) can't drop your stats and you can't get caught by status from stuff like nuzzle, flamethrower, sludge bomb, ice beam. And there are a few things that Good As Gold can block that this doesn't to further differentiate. Regardless, very strong, but that caveat of needing to be grass makes it super limited - it's only real distribution being on pure Fairy type, forcing it to doubles only (outside of niche gimmicks that wouldn't work in practice). Being on a grass type might be too much... if grass type (both as a typing and grass types in general) were better.

does tough claws meowth stack onto the technician primary?

Tbf the egg moves kinda already lock you into a physical set, noxious torque and precipice blades at least on the male, idk the female egg moves

"Creative and interesting" is completely subjective and sounds like you're just projecting, what is the point of a system u need to spend hours upon hours to farm out a passive if they aren't worth anything? The idea is that the system is a reward structure for playing the game with your favorites, so by proxy your favorites get stronger, the concept in of itself isn't meant to be the peak of creativity

@@Silulaya or maybe the point is that it's up to the player to decide whether the passive is worth going for? Or maybe that giving a pokemon fun and fitting abilities makes for unique team builds? Spamming Moxie/Beast Boost/Ice Scales/Fur Coat and immunity abilities isn't interesting. There are other abilities that could buff pokemon while giving those pokemon an opportunity to shine in niches they already have or create their own new niche. For example, Blissey already had an awesome passive in Triage! It doesn't need Fur Coat at all. It can leave tanking physical hits to another pokemon entirely. And Look, Swift Swim Drizzle is a fun combo....if one or maybe two Pokemon have it. But five or six is too much. We don't need to turn every Pokemon into a sweeper.

@@DWargs Well this would assume moxie/beast boost / ice scales / fur coat are spammed which they aren't if you look at the sheet all the abilities you have listed have under 10 distributions each for over 570 pokemon? Why do you keep usiong the words "all" and "every"? You understand how many pokemon there are right? It is up to the player to decide if it is worth, that is why the passives were made easy to distinguish their worth to the player. Nobody is gonna farm 4 hours for mimicry mimikyu (an old passive) it just has too little practical use, its funny and cool, but its not worth your time to farm. the system was designed to reward the player, if you are saying the system is rewarding the player with strong passives then it sounds like the system is doing its job. Make players play more under the guise they will be getting a strong passive for their favorite!

@@Silulaya "under 10 distributions each" My friend, I'm not talking about one ability in a vacuum. When designing a game, you have to consider all the aspects of it together. I lumped all those abilities in for a reason, just like how I lumped together the immunities and resistances. It's patterns. It's repetitive and redundant, but more importantly, it's redundant and repetitive, as well as very repetitive and redundant, and even repetitive and redundant! You see how the above sentence became more and more meaningless and less clever and interesting after every iteration? That's my point! The team has got hundreds of abilities to choose from, and this is the best they could think of. Just copy and pasting the same strategies over and over. Sentret and Zigzagoon are a good example here. Why make them mirrors of each other? They should be keeping abilities that separate them from each other, not make them even more similar. It's a small example of the overarching problem with this patch. "Scrappy on a Normal Type Pokemon! Oh, and...Scrappy on another Normal Type Pokemon? Huh, and...Scrappy on a Normal type Pokemon...." "Swift Swim and Drizzle! So cool! Oh, oh wow, they gave Drizzle to another Swift Swim Mon? Oh, and now a Swift Swim Mon to a Drizzle Pokemon..." You noticed it in Callum's video, and I was the same way. The more you repeat, the less it's neat. And no, the passives do NOT have to all be rewards. The act of unlocking the passive for the pokemon can be a reward in itself. Just like there were already people doing challenge runs or working towards beating the game with every pokemon before the game ever explicitly rewarded you for it. This is a rogue-like. Not every unlockable or build is optimal. Part of your task as the player is to discern which strategies work best and plan accordingly. For some pokemon, it should be that you prioritize reducing cost, rather than going for a passive ability. There's more layers to the game than "every pokemon should get a good ability"

@@DWargs this is all just your subjective opinion you're trying to project onto other feels a little selfish. Don't think sniffing your own farts and claiming your idea is peak game design even if it makes sense is whats best for a game to be fun, if anything you're advocating for things to be less good for the sake of "unique" like brother its pokemon, they're already plenty unique lmao

I think calling it a controversy is ridiculous. Dude just didn't feel the game was representing his journey through his faith. I do agree though. A lot of these changes feel like "let's give it a stat buff."

The main dev that left knew what he was doing. New devs "think" they know, people loved this game because there is broken shit, start "fixing" for the sake of balance and see how it dies out. They should focus on adding more bosses and more modes.

Nightmare spelling too

Why? I feel like I was told before, but I can't remember

​@@BlueCrimson10 Is there a dark void where the memory used to be?

@@quorryraphael9980 Ah yes, something about sketching Dark Void and generally being annoying enough to nerf Dark Void

But doesn't it actually ruin smeargle? Would sketch trigger the prankster and thus fail?

Triage is better if sappy seed works with it. Most of the time, it gets outsped and ohkod.

Paras finally had a niche in endless with poison heal passive because of the berry nerf, now he's immediately relegated back to shitmon status 😭

@@justinmoore3669 see I never had that problem ... admittedly first impression definitely solves its problem. But ngl Dry Skin and Poison Heal gave it pretty good sustain. I even got tera water in the last couple of waves so it could sit in on E-max and get a sappy seed off no problem.

@@LordHeishin this is very true. I need to start up a new endless as my last run died at 2600 ... but I enjoy the classic runs more

@@justinmoore3669 leech life too, i guess, but i really wanted to try out poison heal, i'd just unlocked it and was looking forward to it

Earth Eater would make more sense tbh.

The "improvement" is a bit misleading, at the start of the video he said that he means it as compared to the pokemon with no passive, not compared to its old passive. Flash fire is a big downgrade compared to proto yeah, though now through recommendations (in other words, huge backlash plus a couple good ideas) from the discord, they changed it to turboblaze which is nice with sturdy and a lot of new levitate + earth eater

@@devilgamer1998 Thats what I get for skipping to pokemon Im interested in I guess. Though its hard to imagine a pokemon getting "worse" by having a passive than without one.

I mean with flash fire it get immunity to any potential powered up fire moves and yeah I do think photosynthesis is better overall but immunity is always appreciated too

Apparently it just got changed to Turboblaze

Across the board pokes with multi hit stab moves got hit. Builds using Greninja, Tande, etc just trivialized any challenge in a lot of ways imo.

@@XannnyTanner With how often Greninja leaves the Battle Bond mode, I tend to disagree a bit on that note.

@drax1526 That is fair, I was more saying that multiple Mon had their main engine passive changed. Greninja might have not deserved the hit as much as others, but with good IVs he could easily solo most floors with little to no danger.

I was wondering why my challenge run was so difficult. Yeah every single trainer Pokémon has passives too:’( time to grind

Beast boost is also useful for every build you make unlike sheer force.

Sure

Gmax blast with sturdy is good and now poison heal in the game it can full heal metal burst now

Megas are a big reason to use certain mons honestly

Good for rival battles icl, switches 99% of the time

Yeah, i think they should just replace anything with Stakeout as its an ability that doesn't even work in Endless

Seen a reddit post like that. Eternatus ate flame orb wondered why it was spicy and died

when you unlock a passive for a pokemon it doesn't gain the passive in an ongoing run so I expect it'll keep huge power for that run

This is a good question. I’m going to be pissed if I have to restart my endless run

@@quinnflanagan8734it won’t. Confirmed by the discord

I do think so tinkaton and kartana is still viable. With steelwork, you could still do an ok damage and it's typing is still op. And for kartana it's still kartana 😑😑