Good choice, enjoy your new sled. Thanks for watching

Good call thanks for pointing that out. Glad you are liking the content. Thanks for watching.

I agree; it’s a strong, snappy engine. I rode one side by side with my 800etec; also a great engine, but felt the Polaris was crisper. The 850’s are a different story, and I haven’t ridden a Poo yet.

Haha I like your style.

How was it? Just got a 2020 800 Khaos after having a 13 155 Pro. Can't wait to take it out this weekend.

@@defmc1 ,In answer to your question, here goes....I was wondering if my inexperienced ass would be able to tell if there was any difference. Well, I saw more difference than I expected to see. (I will be referencing Chris Burandt some in this reply). The deciding factor for me getting the 163 was because CB had said in the past that the 163 was "Very forgiving". Those words caught my attention. I'm 58 now, and not looking to fly through trees, do re-entrys, defy gravity, or be to overly crazy. I love to go exploring tho, single track type stuff, and also enjoy some deep meadows and some open steep after a good 3 foot dump. That 163 filled the bill for me. I had tons of confidence in the machine, and myself. and yes, CB was correct that this machine was forgiving. Now, enter the 155 (with an 800). You would think that there wouldn't/shouldn't be much difference. But, like I said, I saw more difference than I expected. 1st, the machines foot print, 36" vs 39" and 163x3 (basic mono tube shock) vs 155x2.6 with Walker Even clickers. 850 vs 800. Also, gearing along with throttle response. On the 163, I could just putt along in the deep with no worries, and walk up the slopes with ease while easy on the throttle (7600ish for rpm). With the 155, the first thing I noticed was that she seemed to want to trench down when taking off, and in turns, the nose felt a little heavy and it seemed like she wanted to almost dive on me. Also, in general it seemed like she was just a little harder to get things to happen (side hill, turns, etc...). This is where I went ahead and contacted Chris B. for some insight. Here is what he had to say...."Your describing the exact difference between the two track lengths. A 155 needs to be ridden with more aggression versus the 163". Well, that was an easy enough answer. Operator error (as it were). As Chris has also said in the past, "This machine is only doing what you told it to do". Again, to reference my age,58. I like to lay back and explore, and the 163 is an amazing platform for that. I originally thought that maybe the 163 was way more than I needed, but it really turned out to be what I needed. Glad I do have both tho. I just need to re-learn how to ride the 155. I hope this helps you. Maybe more info than you needed, but maybe it'll be able to help someone else.

​@@davespargo5944 Thanks Dave. Didn't see your reply until tonight. I'm 45 as of 2022. Done clutching, gearing, pipe, and a few other upgrades last year and my 155 800 is more sled than what ability I have. This coming year will be my 6th on the snow. All I say is you can't miss what you never had. Being 160 lbs the lighter weight platform makes sense to me. Thinking about the 9r for snowcheck. We'll see if the boss is okay with that. Have a good season and be safe.

@@defmc1, hey, cool to see you back. Update......I have really come to like that 155 platform. It is the sled I actually prefer now. The 163 does have it's place in life, depending on the conditions. Other days, it can be a brick. For all around, I find the 155 to be so much more playful and just about any given day, it is the go to machine. Hope this winter does you justice.

I've been on an '18 800 155x3 for about 1600 mountain miles, the last 900 or so with a Silber on it. Not a lick of trouble. The only things I have done is a tether and fully clipped the track.

nt3523 what’s the benefit behind a fully clipped track?

nt3523 how do you like the silber reflash? Does it run pretty clean on the bottom end?

@@fricot_21 The '16 thru '18 Rmk's tracks were clipped every other window, which most tracks are but, they clipped between the lugs and not under the lug like most tracks. It causes unusual wear above the lugs. Polaris claims no responsibility but the '19 Rmk tracks have been corrected. Weird.

@@boser1212 Works like a charm. Mine runs good everywhere. If there is any sputter on the bottom, I don't notice because I'm too busy trying to hold on.

Define old feel with lots of vibration

Andrew Bittmann with cats approach angle, big wheel out back and the alpha skid. Not to mention the 2020 800 tune up. I think it’s as capable or more than any 850 on the hill. I’ll find out first hand, my alpha is sitting and waiting for snow. For me it was a toss up what to buy. Then I started looking at pricing. No denying the 2016 axys pushed the entire industry forward. It will go down as one of the best mountain sleds ever produced.

Riot vs assault 850 will be interesting this year

Not to mention you pre-ordered your alpha for about $3000 less than an axis. Or that you could have bought a new in season Doo for 9999 this spring. He is using "value" very loosely

Tyson Boser One thing cat needs to do though is keep a two rail option for riders in the Midwest who go ride in the mountains a few times a year but want to be able to ride back home some too but want a 153 instead of a 146.

Andrew Bittmann I totally agree. I’m not sure why they didn’t keep the option. I know with my new sled being a 165 it won’t be the funnest machine out here in the flat lands but I certainly will be riding it a bit. We will see just how shitty the alpha rail is outside it’s comfort zone. In saying that I’m perfectly fine with the trade off.

Stefan S that’s common on the Polaris

@@boondocker1219 happening still on the 850's to this day

16-18 800's are really similar, but like anything the further into the model cycle they better they are. The newer models seem to be a bit more dialed and reliable. 19 is a big change with the 850 engine and narrower react front end.

in 800's 18's are dialed in!

The newer 800's are pretty tough, but 3000 hard mountain miles can take their toll regardless if you dont maintain properly

All 2 strokes need new pistons at around 2500 miles in my opinion. I have a 13 pro that has been zero issues except for a new primary clutch. I wasn't blowing it out and keeping it clean. Live and learn. Oh and at 2200 miles put new rk tek pistons in it. 2020 800 155 Khaos for me 2013 800 155 pro for whoever wants to go.

They are great sleds for sure. Thanks for watching

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Turbo 800 all day. My Silber 800 stomps my buddys 850 everywhere. He was not happy.

Two very different sleds. The turbo will smash the stocker all day.

850 Turbo? :)

@@MZMotor95 man I wish haha I only ask cause I have a 17 axys that is bone stock and upgrading to an 850 would mean a few upgrades in a sled. Shorter running boards, narrower front end and the different shocks that the 850's have than the sled I have now. Maybe I should have been more specific. So turbo the sled I have or upgrade to a stock 850?

@@tjdietrich6985 hehe, yeah I got you 😊 I went for the '19 850 this year. The 800 with a turbo is a solid choice though. But like you said, the other improvements on the 850 sold me out on it.

Maybe back in 08-12

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Oh please, the 800 Liberty in the Axys is reliable as hell. I've seen more PRO and SKS 800's with 7.000 - 10.000 km than arctic cats and ski-doos. And they have really good engines as well.

I don't agree with that, the 800 is a pretty dialed engine. We ran a bunch of them through Next Level with very few issues.

Every used pro i see locally for sale says new engine or fresh top end around 1100-1400km i have a buddy who grenaded his right at 1000km and the dealer fucked him. I aint hating and it sucks cuz i really like the poo handling and nimbleness but it feels under powered to me side by side on the same slope to my 2011 cat. And my buddy has a sweet deal for me on his 1100km poo since he is picking up a new poo but im scared. I have never had a nechanical issue with my sled...Worn out clutch i guess but thats normal for a 9year old machine. These new poos look sick af tho