Part of control is expecting the unexpected in those blind areas, which puts you in the seat of making a decision in that moment. I like your style of riding, same as mine. Great channel, great content. Keep it up!

Don’t apologize for using the entire trail- that’s what it’s there for, and it’s the safest way to ride. When you can’t see in front, you move to the right like you said. People just don’t get it. Oh, and smash the like button for Nash, would ya’ll?!

Dude, fantastic beginning. Yes you nailed it. Pushing hard in the right conditions and FIELD OF ViSION. Slowing down when the safety elements are removed. Slow people on the left side of the trail around blind left turns. Riding isn’t all about physical capabilities. It’s mental. Knowing yourself, the capabilities of the equipment, the conditions and reading the trail and interpreting the information. Those who give you grief don’t have the comprehension it takes to understand and further process the information. I’ve been saying what you did and riding as such for years. Great way in which you addressed this. I’m so happy to hear it 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷🔥⛺️🌄

Rick from SOUTHERN NH. I actually did my first ever sno-check of a VR1 850 137 storm 150. Coming off a 2003 pro-x 700. I haven't ridden in a couple years and we just did 90 miles in NH(between twin and pittsburg). What a machine. They just beg to be railed I 'm 38 and like many have been riding sleds and four-wheelers etc since before I could walk(as a passenger mostly of course) and have always used the entire trail when I can see. I believe it really is a safer way to ride. Keep em coming and be safe.

I ride pretty much the same and I get the same comments. The videos don’t really show what we can see that well. Because I’m always in control and aware of what’s going on. When I can see I’m all over the trail. Keep rippin and Ride on brother! 💪

Wow, you can really handle a sled. I wish my skills were nearly that good. The power of this sled is unreal.

It boils down to driver awareness and/or a defensive style riding. You know your own limits you don't know others. Play safe ride hard!

You are a good rider and I agree with you 100 percent. I noticed you are on the brakes all of the time. It is the drunks and inexperienced people that drive too agressive for the abilities. I came from a 2020 assault to a 2021 matryx and cant believe the difference. Way more fun. Loves to be ridden super aggressive.

I just rolled through 520 miles on my VR1 137. You made a comment about lowering your FTS and I say "DO IT'! It cleans up the front end push and gives more bite for sure. I turned mine down 1 full turn. Have a good ride this weekend and let us know how the suspension adjustments work out for you.

From watching your last video I can tell you that you were ridding WELL within your limits. For people that have never raced I don't think they can read riders very well. You stayed on your side of the trail the whole time and also when you needed to change lines mid corner you were able to do it EASILY which speaks for itself! Anyone ridding over there head or even in a race you cant do this easily! I can guarantee 98 percent of the people complaing about the ridding in that video are more dangerous then skilled drivers on the trail ridding like you guys were. Anyways awesome ridding man! I look forward to seeing some more and I'm glad I finally found a snowmobiler on KZfaq that has my ridding style haha!

I really don't see what people are complaining about. I ride like you. I don't see anything wrong. Your in control and aware of your surroundings.

Man you're keeping the video's rolling . I love it . thanks you

That makes sense for the assault because off trail you really don't want to couple unless climbing super steep climbs. Most of the time stand up off trail as well.

If you can see the other side of the corner use all the trail, but if you can't see the other side either go to the inside or the outside depending on the corner. When you've got guys you trust to ride with and ride hard like you do and I also do, there's times we might be in each other's bumpers through the corners, but we have ridden together for many years and we use the whole trail when we can and when not safe we ride right fit sure.

New subscriber, love your videos so far. Just bought my first sled (2019 Indy XC 129), my buddy is taking me to Tug Hill this week for the first time. Small world!

Great video! I think I am going to spring order one. Would love to see a comparison between yours and a ZR9000 or Sidewinder. On the trails.

Agree 100% on your not the one to be scared of on the trail. Coming from a former racer also. We have control and vision that the normal riders just don’t have.

great video great feedback iam going to get one next year enjoy the snow this weekend

Myself and a couple buddies ride the same way as you guys do, no joke. Don't even waste your breath on the haters. I had a 15 pro s 120 and then an 18 pro s le 120.....I had my reservations about getting the matryx 850 as I was in love with the Pro S, that sled with a competent rider was like a slot car in the woods and hard to hang with. I agree 110 percent with you though about the new matryx. I still love the axys but this thing is just better. You ever make it out to the Midwest and ride northern WI?

There is a video showing how to stop snow from coming in to glove box . It’s basically a thick foam piece

Good review of both sleds. But now I'm going to have to buy a 2022 matrix. Oh well its only money. Glad you have snow to ride, here in Minnesota we have horrible snow this year so far.

Awesome ride through the twistys. Sure it gave you plenty of input on the overall handling and characteristics of your set up.

Don’t even listen to the other people. Just keep doing what you are doing. They are great videos. I ride the same way.

Man , I hope I didn't screw up , I ordered the VR1 850 with a 137 ice ripper.

Live life and enjoy it. But my dad taught me a very good lesson as a young snowmobiler. Live by the brake, die by the brake. I'm not saying don't ride and have fun but if you can't control a corner unless you hammer the brake then you might be taking your last corner.

I got to sit on a matryx the other day. It felt good. But very noticeably smaller front end. I love my axys

Its unreal how the longer track sleds ride and handle on the trails its not even worth buying a short track anymore.

Matryx hands down overall. I have no issues with the shocks settings with the current preload clicker combo other then some slight pushing in loose snow

Great info say what are your temps. on the trails my hottest is 118 and the coolest is 95 which is great my 2016 RMK with a 2" track was as high as 180 but when I dropped my scratchers it would drop to 125. I have a 2021 650 Assault with a 1.5 ice storm and I love this machine your right they are great sleds. '

Jesse, it's the same thing in skiing. Speed and control are two different things, many people just don't understand that. A clueless person with weak skills going 20 mph can be way more dangerous to those around him than a knowledgable skilled skier going 50 mph.

Great video comparison talk! What were your reasons on going with the 129 VR1 versus the 137 VR1? I think they trail equally as good if not the 137 would be a little bit better. The 146 is obviously a true 50-50 crossover but a little harder to whip around on the tight twisty trails. It will still trail good but not as good as a 137 or 129. Also, have you ever ridden the huge Copenhagen loop at tug hill? It would give you some different video footage because it’s not all through the trees and the woods it’s all huge wide open fields and Meadows, tons of fields to play in and the trails are very wide, very long, you can see the trail very far away so they are flat and fast. Very pretty! I rode that twice on Monday. I have a 2018 XCR 800 136 Switchback 1.35 cobra.

Keep up the riding videos! I watch on the big tv and pretend I’m riding 😂 leg is in a cast so might not even get to ride my sled this year 😞 just got it broken in end of last season cause we had such a shit winter. Question about the axys I got the Indy XC 137 it darts at low speeds any tips on getting rid of that? Stock skis and stock carbides are still on it.

Questions for you polaris riders. Bought new 2021 switchback pro S 850. Fouling plugs badly. After 22 hours matts cycles shop. Says it's the break in phase. Gone threw 8 plugs. on the fence about the 850. Patriot. Normal or is there something wrong with sled???

I will pass people on the trail as well. Nothing worse than getting behind a slow group.

Where I live, we don’t have trails, much less groomed race track beautiful stuff you get to ride! But I do have a question, and I’m not a trail rider, because we don’t have trails, but I plan on renting a sled somewhere so I can go ride. My question is: I see passing traffic with a hand up, is that a signal there is more riders coming behind, or just a fellow enthusiast wave ? I come from professional auto racing and some hand signals actually mean something, hence my question. From an older guy ( 52 ), and being safety minded, I would think a special hand signal on blind corner trails, that there are others behind them, would be a good thing. On the street I use both lanes if I can see ahead in the twisty bits, so ride how you want as long as it’s safe!

Hey man keep riding hard we all do it nothing wrong with it. If they can’t handle stay off the trails. We buy these sleds to ride so ride hard.

Ok, I figured you might get some comments. However, to me it didn't look like you were going that fast. When we were younger and before we got into off trail riding we used to run the trails super fast. Don't do this anymore because I don't have the sled for it and quite honestly its not our type of riding anymore. Maybe its the camera but it really didn't seem that fast. I did notice that you could see a head when ever you used up the entire trail. Its all about control.

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with the way you ride, as I do the exact same thing. The people that are dangerous on the trail are the ones oblivious to their surroundings. People that ride hard, have situational awareness. On another point of being dangerous, whoever thought it was a good idea to take you hand off of the bars as you pass another rider is a fool. I could care less how many people are in your group. People need to assume that someone is coming around the corner if you can't see around it. That's why I like night riding, as you get to use the whole corner for faster speeds. Now on to the real reason for my comment. You are killing me that you didn't compare the headlights. To me the Axys headlight is incredible, seems hard to beat especially since you didn't mention it. So what's your thoughts. Thanks for the time and effort and let Michigan have some of that snow.

I agree with your thoughts on the VR1. Coming from a Doo 850 with a laundry list of add on's (zollinger offset spindles, elka stage 4 shocks, Laflamme swaybar) I couldn't be happier with the VR1. Better riding position, better front suspension, 7s is awesome, motor and clutching are spot on out of the box. The only thing imo keeping this machine from being an absolute home run is the shock package. Polaris built this machine to be a groom trail weapon, not an XCR and it is just that. You can quickly exceed the operating range of the rear skid when the trail gets a little rough. I have talk to Bruce G at southside about a re-valve and Dave at Hygear about an Axis shock package. Just need to decide which direction to go. If you have Bruce re-valve your rear shocks keep us updated

Haters gonna hate keep doing your thing

What about headlight function comparing the two?

What’s the best way to keep the ski from lifting when coming out of corners?

I rode with some ex snowcross racers they were nuts its a race all day was a blast to ride with them I'll follow them but won't lead that fast you come in the corner hot and the guy coming at you gets scared and locks up the brakes and you can't sweep the corner...but yeah those racers had great control of their sleds

How do you think the clutch kit you put in works do you recommend it?

When Greg gonna be on the Chanel

From the looks of this ride, you don't ride all that hard. You seem to be off the throttle more than on the throttle. Not condemning, thought you would have been riding harder. Still like your video's.

I have been riding Tug hill since 1987.. I ride the same as you do and have never crashed into someone or hurt anyone else. The key is stay right when you cannot see far enough ahead to see traffic.. also keep hands on the bars at all time do you have control at all times. Sometime in the early 2000s people started hand signalling and I have noticed an increase of people with less control of their sleds.. it's always someone who has been going there for 3 years that act like they should be the one making the rules.. justt a rant from a old fart

Have you ever checked your gas mileage?

It'd be valuable info except for the fact that your sleds have so many mods.

Nash seems a bit bored.