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We scurried down to the JOE Towers dungeon this afternoon to bring you a tasty morsel of bonus Pubcast deliciousness.
Rishi Sunak today formalised his plans to water down the UK's net zero climate pledges at a Downing Street press conference, enraging everyone from Boris Johnson to Speaker Lindsay Hoyle.
Ed and Ava break down the news, and whether it pushes Rishi Sunak ever closer to calling a snap election.
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@segue2ant395 11 ай бұрын

Out of the three of you I would have guessed: - Ava goes skiing most winters - Olly would go snowboarding more often if his thighs were up to it - Ed once fell over on a dry-ski-slope outside Stirling on school trip

@yaiirable 11 ай бұрын

100% agreed

@kavgp 11 ай бұрын

Olly went snowboarding with Charlotte Owen

@megalovepoo 11 ай бұрын

My god Ed saying “looks like meats back on the menu boys” had me in stitches

@paulaa3085 11 ай бұрын

This was the funniest pubcast i've ever seen 🤣. 'Meats back on the menu boys!' slayed me.

@piccalillipit9211 11 ай бұрын

I'm really sick today, and these 2 nut jobs really cheered me up

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

Daily Mail full-page editorial headlined ‘ ‘Hurrah for the Blackshirts’ in January 1934. The story, bylined to Viscount Rothermere, praised Mosley for his “sound, common sense, Conservative doctrine." Beyond the pale, utterly disgraceful.

@EessaTube 11 ай бұрын

You should read Ken Follet's trilogy about WWI, WWII and the Cold War. It is set around factual events, but in fiction/novel format, and it is clear that the Daily Mail has not changed it's xenophobic, jingoistic, shit-stirring craziness, since its inception. The same loony headlines we get now, were appearing before and during WWI, between the wars, during WWII and on and on since.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@EessaTube Good tip.Thanks very much.

@kalebdaark100 11 ай бұрын

So, I for one thought that Ava was the skier not Ed.

@piccalillipit9211 11 ай бұрын

Ave is the most stereotypical skier Ive ever seen, I was shocked when she said no.

@AJGladys 11 ай бұрын

i'd have never been more certain of anything

@marcbrown6713 11 ай бұрын

That theory got chamonixed.

@jimjam7890 11 ай бұрын

“Fred West” caught me entirely off guard 😂

@smilingmrj2019 11 ай бұрын

Best LotR news themed podcast out there! More Ed analogies that go Ava's head please, great fun

@kylemear 11 ай бұрын

Bro killed me with the lotr memes

@sfshinz 11 ай бұрын

No fish in LOTR.

@flatplatypus 11 ай бұрын

@@sfshinz Although there ARE fish in Mavora lakes, which is one of the locations for the filming. So they're in the movie, you just can't see them ;-)

@sfshinz 11 ай бұрын

@@flatplatypus Also, Gollum. But generally speaking, not fish that Ed would be afraid of.

@kylemear 11 ай бұрын

Ed seems like he'd like it raw and wriggling.. just not the fish

@Penguin-24S99 11 ай бұрын

I agree with Ava the announcements today and the press conference did feel like its the start of an election campaign trying to distract away from other tory failures. Hopefully there is a election

@florenzini7212 11 ай бұрын

theres no way he could think a snap election is a good idea, he is at an all time low approval rating, his only hope is that starmers is equally as low and somehow he gets a hung parliament but theres no way. polling at the moment is like 40% at least for labour - whoever is telling him an election is what he needs is crazy

@andy_ppp 11 ай бұрын

@@florenzini7212 maybe he thinks things will get worse...

@sarahp007 11 ай бұрын

I’d say this announcement is yet another Tory failure!

@Penguin-24S99 11 ай бұрын

@@florenzini7212your right in a way a snap isn't likely, but I do feel like he is sort of gearing up for an election,thinking about bringing it forward possibly announcing it within the next 6 months or so, the announcement and press conference today had a campaign style pledge to it, so I think the election will be likely sooner than thought to be possibly next spring in April/May instead of next October when it's widely expected to be held

@SlowhandGreg 11 ай бұрын

@@andy_pppthey will the extent of the pain will slow down but tax threshold is frozen till 2028 and BOE rises still have to happen Frozen thresholds add £500 to your tax bill below 50k already + double+ on fuel +50% in food cost (my bill not what the government claim) Anyone still voting Tory must have Stockholm syndrome

@benjones3466 11 ай бұрын

I personally think that Sunak's government is aware of their election chances. It just feels like it would take a trumpian degree of separation from reality for them to think they had a good enough chance that they could pull these unpopular moves. If you consider that they may believe that they will lose the next election then I feel one of the easiest theories to arrive at is that these are moves to shore up long term donations from certain industries, or possibly ensure a nice job after leaving politics.

@fang_xianfu 11 ай бұрын

Of course they know the emperor has no clothes, but they have to keep convincing themselves and each other that he does because the alternative is despair.

@SlowhandGreg 11 ай бұрын

It's electoral suicide in the Blue wall who have been voting in Green are not ex Labour there centre centre/right fed up middle England. Priorities are schools sewage (environment) cost of living Anyone with 1/2 an education can figure the correlation between fossil fuel and the eye watering sums people are paying for energy

@oliverheywood9195 11 ай бұрын

omg Ava, "Fred West". lmao 🤣

@christopherobrien1855 11 ай бұрын

Mark my words, this is Sunak’s Truss/Kwarteng moment. The economy will tank this week and this crisis will go from bad to worse.

@julias-shed 11 ай бұрын

Ava was on fire for this one brilliant 😀

@adamjay6600 11 ай бұрын

I now understand the role that Oli plays on the podcast! This was great AND all over the shop..!

@sfshinz 11 ай бұрын

Oli’’s role is to get mocked by Ava and Ed.

@Minorheadlines 11 ай бұрын

Gotta love the feeling you get watching someone explain a meme

@richyhigg3042 11 ай бұрын

another step in the slow walk to Facism

@denzel270 11 ай бұрын

How? By not imposing ridiculous, controlling laws on us?

@ThisIsAitch 11 ай бұрын

@@denzel270 No, by changing whatever rules they want on a whim.

@Gdank72 11 ай бұрын

I'm not a virgin ... and I got the LOR reference! Married 25 years and kids .... and an EV owner since 2020. People need to stop stereotyping people ;-)

@ILikedGooglePlus 11 ай бұрын

If you were a virgin, you'd know it's LOTR 😎

@TimesFM4532 11 ай бұрын

They should put a Instagram post with Sunak holding flip flops

@Hession0Drasha 11 ай бұрын

Sunak has canceled the only thing i've been proud of the uk doing since the olympics. Apart from the legacy of public healthcare, which he is also slowly eroding. There is nothing to be proud of the uk for. It's a slave pit for oligarchs.

@user-xu5vl5th9n 11 ай бұрын

You can still do Net Zero yourself. Why the people who claim it is an "emergency" wait for the government to do something is beyond me. It seems like an excuse for inaction on their part.

@Hession0Drasha 11 ай бұрын

@@user-xu5vl5th9n sure, after i've saved for a house. I don't really earn enough to have much agency atm.

@tropics8407 11 ай бұрын

Very good point 👍 go do it yourself and pay for a friend or family member. Why must I pay for you ?

@davidbates3057 11 ай бұрын

@@user-xu5vl5th9n Lol, I sure hope you guys get paid to spew this crap. No, personal commitment makes no difference. I should know, I don't drive, don't take flights abroad, consume very little other than the bare necessities of food, so my carbon footprint is about as low as you can get, and the world is still burning. Just because somebody chooses not to eat meat, doesn't mean the animal magically never existed. The biggest carbon scars are being made by major industry that requires governmental legislation to regulate. I don't know how old you are, but when they realised lead in petrol was literally poisoning the public, or asbestos could kill those breathing it in, were you writing to all the papers telling them how people can "just not buy leaded petrol" or "just stay away from asbestos"? F-ing clown.

@outofideas42 11 ай бұрын

@@user-xu5vl5th9n100 companies cause 70% of emissions. Buying local grown food costs more, ensuring your housing energy is 100% green requires that you own your own home. The idea that the individual should/can be responsible for their own net zero is an incredibly privileged, neoliberal opinion to have. To actually achieve net 0, structural change is essential

@turbokadett 11 ай бұрын

New PolJoe feature suggestion: Ava has widely know culture touchstones explained to her 😉

@Batters56 11 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen someone so appalled by their own joke!

@joeperren3214 11 ай бұрын

It was out of pocket but a good joke.

@garethdaglishgd 11 ай бұрын

"looks like meat is back on the menu boys" might be my favorite take away from any episode so far.

@BaronBearington 11 ай бұрын

For the seven bins thing: there are some councils that do six - black, food, paper, plastic, glass, metal - but thats still not seven. Did he pick that number specifically to avoid all real world cases?

@Malcil 11 ай бұрын

We have Black (general non recyclable, brown (garden), food, paper(in a bag not bin), plastic/metal(in a different bag) and glass(in a box) which is still 6 and really only 3 bins

@EllaFreshty 11 ай бұрын

A few councils have the option to put out a few random items in bags for collections eg clothing, batteries, small electronics, coffee pods. Although not in bins, those are all bag collections.. also garden waste is often collected separately to food waste if possible, as food waste has to be processed to animal byproduct regulations whereas garden waste doesn’t (and is much cheaper to process)

@graemeforbes4560 11 ай бұрын

green (general waste) , little green (food waste?) brown (garden), blue (paper?) red(plastic?) gray( glass) apparently there a luminous pink one for batteries and stuff? though I don't have one, but sorely want one now 😞

@fang_xianfu 11 ай бұрын

There are some places that have the 6 you listed plus a separate one for nappies and tampons etc. I'm really not sure why people give a hoot about the number of bins, pre-sorting the rubbish makes everyone's lives easier.

@pandemoniumgaming6344 11 ай бұрын

My home literally has no insulation and it's been nearly 2 years since my HA knew about it and still not installed it yet as the 2nd winter comes up that I'll be wasting money on heating a freezing home. This makes me so sad in so many ways.

@thefirstbushman 11 ай бұрын

Problem is it costs a huge amount to install like with heat pumps, you've got council houses reverting back to oil and gas boilers

@pandemoniumgaming6344 10 ай бұрын

@@thefirstbushman My problem is 30 years ago cowboy lazy builders didn't put insulation into my property and many more around me. It's again proof regulations are needed as people will attempt to cut corner if not. And I don't care how much it costs I care about not freezing this year.

@thefirstbushman 10 ай бұрын

@@pandemoniumgaming6344 I agree 👍

@SashaGrace94 11 ай бұрын

The off camera laughing just has me creased 😂

@StarJellie 11 ай бұрын

Would love a lord of the rings trilogy watch party + review from Ava

@ratnadipdas8219 11 ай бұрын

The public demands that, and Ed looking at a documentary about fish

@garethdaglishgd 11 ай бұрын

If you had asked me who has been skiing i would have said Eva, if you asked who would gleefully discuss Lord of the rings, 100% Ed

@mikebg1984 11 ай бұрын

That Fred West joke come out of nowhere haha

@olivermathers8229 11 ай бұрын

Ava snowboards, and you've been skiing in Scotland 😂

@ILikedGooglePlus 11 ай бұрын

Hey please can you upload the inevitable footage of Ed knocking the laptop off the table? I can stop stressing about it if I see it happen!

@kimspence-jones4765 11 ай бұрын

Love you guys!

@rjfaber1991 11 ай бұрын

_"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"_ isn't Sun Tzu, actually. It was Napoleon who said it.

@CelestialVo 11 ай бұрын

For reference, in Pembrokeshire, there are separate bins for: plastic, glass, paper, cardboard, food waste, personal hygiene waste (nappies, sanitary towels etc) and general waste. Recyclable waste gets picked up every week, personal hygiene waste every two weeks and general waste every three. It is definitely a system.

@sarahp007 11 ай бұрын

Sadly only 25% of UK recycling is recycled the rat is burnt or put in to landfill. This info is from the horses mouth btw

@fang_xianfu 11 ай бұрын

We have bins for general waste, food, card, and other recyclables. You can pay more for garden waste collection Feb to Nov.

@lunaangeleclipse9745 11 ай бұрын

Honestly I kinda wish my area had that system

@RankinMsP 11 ай бұрын

Paper and card are different? Interesting

@MrPaddyR 11 ай бұрын

“Luv Politics, ‘ate Orcs it’s the PoliticsJoe Podcast” needs to be next weeks intro 😅

@MrKiingpin 11 ай бұрын

The seven deadly bins, wheres my newspaper job?

@JonathanSwiftUK 11 ай бұрын

I think we should have a 'baked beans' tax, and a double tax if you have cheese and beans, maybe a sweet/sour sauce tax, anything that causes gas emissions. 😊.

@fang_xianfu 11 ай бұрын

He's looking at China and saying, they're not spending on net zero? They don't need to, they just regulate firms who disobey.

@AodhanBeag 11 ай бұрын

Loving the LOTR references even more with them going completely over her head and her being confused. It’s the cherry on top 😂

@hapijoel7569 11 ай бұрын

"Gimli and Legolas are about to go into battle..." "What the fuck are you talking about" 🤣🤣🤣

@samdegoeij6576 11 ай бұрын

A small correction on Ava's claim of China not having a Climate policy because they do. They say that their goal is to be Carbon Neutral by 2070 and they made that promise last year at COP and they said it because, they explained a simple reality: "We have everybody's industries here and that's why we need more time. But, we're committed to achieving Carbon Neutrality and are working towards it in a planned and structural way." They produce 60% of all green energy, have the single largest reforesting project (The Great Green Wall), greening the Gobi desert to farmland (which about 15% of China, the other 15% is the Western desert), they invest heavily in public transport you can take a high speed train from every corner of the country to the other side of the country for a reasonable price and they're actually trying to achieve cold nuclear fusion. They also set up a system where you buy locally produced veg and gets shipped to your house on the cheap (means less large shipping emissions). In other words they are doing a lot more than countries like the U.K and my country (the Netherlands) eventhough historically and currently they' have emitted and still are emmitting way less per person than we in "the West" are.

@BENTWOONEZERO 11 ай бұрын

CO2 per ca pita, China 7.44, UK , Italy, Spain, France, Sweden all less

@piccalillipit9211 11 ай бұрын

They are actually doing really well at transitioning.

@BENTWOONEZERO 11 ай бұрын

@@piccalillipit9211 In 2020 it was the highest ever.

@piccalillipit9211 11 ай бұрын

@@BENTWOONEZERO YES but if you look at the ratio of new dirty V green energy in China is incredibly impressive. And they are soon to reach the point where they are replacing legacy dirty with green. China installs more solar per year then the USA, EU and India combined - basically the rest of the world.

@BENTWOONEZERO 11 ай бұрын

@@piccalillipit9211 61% of China power comes from coal.

@Chrsflks 11 ай бұрын

I love anything ed and Ava honestly these two crack me up 😂😂

@jjseluk 11 ай бұрын

Big up to Ed for the “meat’s back on the menu” ref!!

@sunnysjwinter 10 ай бұрын

That Fred West comment came out of nowhere 🤣

@beckenhamboy1995 11 ай бұрын

Ava is the more likely Skiier, Ed is the guy you meet in an apres bar who has never gone in his life but is doing a season for the parties. Also Ava is f*cking hilarious

@adamdraude8912 11 ай бұрын

Glad you two at least touched on the efficiency of rented homes... very little discussion on this in wider media... its a massive problem and yet again takes away from renters and makes private renting housing stock even worse value for money than it already is

@Lynnpjjbdndji 11 ай бұрын

Sunak and the and the 7 mythical Bins lmao

@KSweeney36 11 ай бұрын

But Brexit is not done. Done implies that it’s completed not necessarily to come back to, but they keep wanting to come back to it. It’s a disaster that keeps going

@dominicsignor9758 11 ай бұрын

Amazing. I want a podcast of Ed discussing Lord of the Rings with Ava.

@raylder6339 11 ай бұрын

I appreciated your lord of the rings reference Ed… not the one I’d have gone for but I see the comparison.

@MrBezulbub 11 ай бұрын

7:17 so effectively just discourses of delay by the MP on climate change

@samhall7227 11 ай бұрын

The bins we have where I live are - Black (general), Brown (garden), card, paper, plastic, food and tins/glass

@Hill_Walker 11 ай бұрын

I love my 1cm of loft insulation in my rented house. Was great last winter heating the outside. I had to spaff loads of my pay packet on an energy bill, NOT in the local economy in local businesses.

@Hill_Walker 11 ай бұрын

We need some subreddit content of Ed's embrace of the mic in the opening

@Welcome_The_Revolution 11 ай бұрын

"Lego Elf"... forever shall he be known... 😂

@twogsds 11 ай бұрын

Napoleon Bonaparte is said to have said "Don't interrupt your enemy while they are making mistakes"

@lilytea3 11 ай бұрын

0:16: 🎙 The video discusses the topic of meat taxing and the UK's climate policies. 4:07: 🗣 A KZfaqr discusses a speech on proposals related to taxing meat and meeting Net Zero goals. 7:53: 🌍 Green policies are popular among the British public, including conservatives, and can be easily discussed with constituents. 11:03: 🗣 The speaker discusses their thoughts on a potential snap election and the announcement of a new policy. 14:17: 🎥 The video discusses the investment of 400 million in EV factories and the controversy surrounding it, as well as a conversation about the Lord of the Rings franchise. 17:56: 🗣 Discussion about tax on imported lamb and the anti-green agenda in a recent by-election. 21:32: 🗣 Discussion about the impact of moving government departments to Darlington and the local economy. 25:18: 🏏 The speaker discusses his lack of knowledge about cricket during press conferences. 28:48: 🚗 The video discusses the idea of using an electric vehicle as a political visual metaphor. Recap by Tammy AI

@potterlover96 11 ай бұрын

Ed quoting LotR and Ava being confused by them is my new favourite dynamic 😂

@gregdeboer1 11 ай бұрын

Black bin, recycle bin, food bin, garden bin, battery bin, coffee pod bin, glass bin. I'm already at 7.

@diabl2master 10 ай бұрын

Love this channel so much ❤

@benjones3466 11 ай бұрын

This channel has fallen a long way since it stopped hating nonces... Sorry. 10 seconds in and I couldn't resist :D

@neilbenison2512 11 ай бұрын

When Ed said "Meats Back on the Menu" I got a small Hard Hat On :D

@sunnysjwinter 10 ай бұрын

Love podcasts, hate orcs, it’s the Politics Joe Pubcast

@AndyRossism 11 ай бұрын

Recycling is easy in my area of Newcastle..there isn't any! And our big bins are emptied more than once a week because we get so much fly tipping . But I can't even recycle cardboard here 😅

@arma21regency 11 ай бұрын

Very funny episode, which says so much about how we are governed at the moment it’s beyond parody

@youchoosealex 11 ай бұрын

Watch the collectors in the morning. They take a garden waste bin down the street and dump each food waste bin into it, before unloading the lot into the same lorry. Not sure if this is widespread practice but it's what I've observed.

@jaycondron1063 11 ай бұрын

Even the fucking trees walked in those movies

@tobywhitehead7488 11 ай бұрын

Well I liked the LotR analogy

@rymixxx 10 ай бұрын

Fuck my old trousers! The Fred West quip killed me dead!

@stefanos9882 11 ай бұрын

I would have guessed that Ava is an exceptional skier

@Britishrailwaystories 11 ай бұрын

LOTR won 17 Oscars.

@adas1023 11 ай бұрын

before this conversation, i thought Ava *maybe* had been skiing and Ed definitely had (as he mentioned he played rugby in another pod)

@jameschamberlain8708 11 ай бұрын

incredibly excellent

@jameswarren2222 11 ай бұрын

You guys were on form today :-D

@alistairmacrae4993 11 ай бұрын

Ava for skiing!

@VinceLammas 11 ай бұрын

This is the first time I've had a glimpse of Ava's darker humou and psychology. Brutal!

@bobbler42 11 ай бұрын

He does know that not only is Uxbridge not everywhere, but it’s not even typical of London, right? On form he’ll be announcing a whale barbie on Parliament Sq next december with no election called.

@godot-whatyouvebeenwaitingfor 11 ай бұрын

Never seen or read Lord of the Rings. I will die incomplete I guess...

@roostah3575 10 ай бұрын

Ava was on fire with the jokes! PMSL! Get rid of Ollie more often 😜

@jeromeprice9952 11 ай бұрын

How do we think keir palmer will respond to this mve from Rishi?

@MRDSTUDI0S 11 ай бұрын

Random one, Whilst listening to the bin rant (3:30), I was reminded of some interesting new Eco developments happening in sharps bins soon.

@Clarke_Al 11 ай бұрын

Love the LOTR quotes. 😂😂😂 and defo Ava has been skiing. Can defo see her at Apre

@dondoodat 11 ай бұрын

If this is a change of government policy shouldn't it have been said in Parliament first ? The fact he declared all this outside of Parliament to avoid scrutiny means I don't know if what he's declared is government policy or the Tory manifesto for the next election. It isn't how politics should be done.

@leoleoleoleo 11 ай бұрын

Would have had my money on Ava being the skier. Interesting points re political stuff etc too

@meltedwheeliebin 11 ай бұрын

Food and garden goes in the same bin in Milton Keynes, but no hot ashes. Don’t ask me how I know!

@Alessandro--- 11 ай бұрын

Brilliant episode!!

@thefirstbushman 11 ай бұрын

Multiple Japanese style bins. Great idea. Then there's the average brit that needs to use them 😂

@zedooncadhz 11 ай бұрын

I wish they'd tone down the shanter 30% and get on with the points a bit

@johnkennedy4721 11 ай бұрын

What I don't hear anyone picking up on, is the fact that the new petrol/diesel car ban has no impact on those of a lower economic standing. New cars, are bough by rich people. If anything, keeping the ban, would have accelerated the adoption of EV as richer folks would be forced to buy them new, and allow them to become more affordable and prevalent in the second hand market.

@bobbler42 11 ай бұрын

Legolas eats only lembas and had apparently not had a beer til the Helm’s Deep afterpartu. Big zoomer energy, despite being several hundred years old. I reckon the Rivendell salad bar would be rather like if Ottelenghi did Redwall.

@karlos72 11 ай бұрын

Its an attempt to shore up support from their base. They know they're going to lose but if they can keep a core base they can come back in 5yrs time.

@WhichDoctor1 11 ай бұрын

But their base in the blue wall is remarkably pro environment

@karmaascendant3936 11 ай бұрын

The worst thing is that they’re risking the blue wall for the red wall when the red wall wants to go back to Labour anyway. He’s making this is the election that’ll really test which areas really will vote Conservative no matter what.

@macsmiffy2197 11 ай бұрын

It’s nice to hear a sensible discussion on Politics Joe without the commentators constantly effing and blinding.

@AshleyFosterMusic 11 ай бұрын

Best pubcast 🤣

@danmayberry1185 11 ай бұрын

Ava has been to a ski resort, but has not skied.

@SeolferWulf 11 ай бұрын

Ava definitely acts like her parents take her ski-ing for christmas in Aspen. I may be judging more harshly seeing as she called LOTR fans a bunch of virgins though.... 🤣

@joex2004uk 11 ай бұрын

Non-virgin here: I appreciated the Legolas analogy!

@terryhurley3568 11 ай бұрын

Ava goes Skiing, and Ed is a Sunday footballer who has broken a few opposition bones with a 2 footed challenge...

@kpfwt7918 11 ай бұрын

I woulda guessed she's the skier

@saragonmcenany6229 11 ай бұрын

The Tories only clung on Uxbridge because the students weren’t there in the Summer

@GoldnDusty 11 ай бұрын

Sticky Wicket refers to spin bowling. If the wicket sticks, the ball is fairly unpredictable and a batter doesn’t know how to play the ball. Happens when it rains, usually.