Suella sacked after unleashing far-right on the Cenotaph, and David Cameron returns

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Suella sacked after unleashing far-right on the Cenotaph, and David Cameron returns | Pubcast #29

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After a completely average day in Westminster politics, Oli and Ava record a special episode of the Pubcast for you all.
Suella Braverman's attempt to start a race war over the weekend failed miserably and was the final nail in her coffin. We react to how poorly thought out her last week as Home Secretary was.
Suella's sacking kickstarted a reshuffle which saw the resurrection of the Prime Minister that triggered the last seven years of turmoil in Britain, David Cameron. Not content in getting the job as Foreign Secretary, Cameron was also made a Lord by decree from the King, so he'd be allowed accept Rishi Sunak's job offer.
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@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

Cruella is so incompetent, she can't even get stochastic terrorism right! Rounds up a bunch of RWNJs, points them at the Cenotaph. Completely the wrong people, and they attack them! How she managed to hang on to her job for so long is beyond me.

@spike9653 9 ай бұрын

Harold Wilson is actually the most recent PM with 2 non-consecutive terms, and both Churchill and Wilson were contiguous leaders of their respective parties from government to opposition to government again.

@CustardCream515 9 ай бұрын

Have the tories really had a leader since Cameron?

@franklingoodwin 9 ай бұрын

@@CustardCream515Was Cameron really a leader though, or was he being led? Brexit says he was being led. I'd argue the last Tory leader was John Major

@ewanmatheson4235 9 ай бұрын

"The thing about the Italians is they know when to take a lunch" - I don't think I've laughed so much during a PoliticsJOE pubcast as that moment.

@revc2010 9 ай бұрын

The thumbnails just get better, laughing already and there's half an hour before the show. Top job.

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

Seeing as how us Brightonians, saw off The EDL, multiple times. In fact so badly, they've not been back since. The year they started the St. George's march, I'd moved back home and knew Yaxley-Lennon by sight (don't ask). They wandered past us on our way into town from my old lady's place. When we got into town, I was approached by Tommeh asking if we knew an appropriate place to drink. I sent them up to our gay skinhead pub, the bouncers are lesbian ladies of great charm and a low tolerance for nonsense. I wish we'd followed them. 😐

@LimeyRedneck 9 ай бұрын

😅

@Adamb87 9 ай бұрын

Peace always works & wins for poor & working people who suffer the most in every War The Revolution is Love

@enemywithin1295 9 ай бұрын

thank fuck you weren’t around in WW2

@dougaldouglas8842 9 ай бұрын

This is only to be expected because the status quo has been attacked. I will never say a political figure is honest, only that there is an agenda behind them. What is the agenda behind Suella? This is what we should be asking because, again, political figures have an agenda, and know how to try and get us on their side.

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

She really doesn't, she's not even liked by her natural allies.

@Blackswitch92 9 ай бұрын

The Tories are running out of ideas for support, they know they’re toast at the next election and the whole patriot right wing rhetoric works well with Brits - I see where the issue is and believe or not I sometimes empathise with them because the right are still people and some of them are suffering through this government like the rest of us but they can’t see who is really creating the problems. Look at America people blindly worship trump because they see a successful guy and he says that he’s their champion and that he can fix all of their problems however we know the truth that he’s in for himself. We need someone who can unify us all and when Suella says that immigration is the issue they listen, the media in this country is heavily biased and when the news and everyone tells you that these people are the reasons things are the way they are they won’t see it any other way and I do believe that loving your country isn’t a bad thing. I’m mixed and I’ve dealt with racism my entire life yet the media tells these people that I want to destroy our traditions because I challenge these things when it’s absolutely not true and other people Are the exactly the same. I hate the Tories with a passion for what they’ve done and I understand they will do anything to drive wedge between us as people to stay in power.

@OhAwe 9 ай бұрын

To get fired so she can go for top position.

@andreacripps739 9 ай бұрын

She's the next PM I've no doubt

@allanfarran364 9 ай бұрын

@@andreacripps739stay of the drink

@beatlegreg07 9 ай бұрын

I wonder was Suella frogmarched or hate-marched out of her office?

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

Sacked by text, rumour has it! 🙀

@django3422 9 ай бұрын

@@capt.bart.roberts4975Not a rumour I have any trouble believing, sounds like Sunak.

@albertbrammer9263 9 ай бұрын

Cameron imposed austerity, he did the EU referendum. Never forgiven.

@MartinBroadhurst 9 ай бұрын

The whiskey gives the show a different vibe and I don't hate it.

@killforkylie 9 ай бұрын

From pedantry corner.....I think it was Scotch so whisky. 🙂

@MartinBroadhurst 9 ай бұрын

@@killforkylie A top tier and fully warranted piece of pedantry.

@killforkylie 9 ай бұрын

@@MartinBroadhurst Thank you sir.

@DavidHeffron78 9 ай бұрын

I was there on Saturday in the main march. And did hear someone shout something antisemetic. The difference between us and the thug march was I then saw multiple people tell the shouter that this wasn't what this protest was about and they were essentially chased off. I am sure they went somewhere else but I was please to see there was no toleration in the group I was marching with.

@sempressfi 9 ай бұрын

If you really wanna blow some of my fellow Americans' minds, tell em about how the pilgrims were actually basically religious extremists and left not because they were being so persecuted but because other English people were getting tired of them and wouldn't sign on to their puritanism. That really throws them for a loop 😂

@mickeypye2593 9 ай бұрын

someone been watching QI ?! 😂😂😂😂

@kalebdaark100 9 ай бұрын

As a whisky drinker, I feel I must object to the choice of whisky.

@anonUK 9 ай бұрын

"The finest the Co-op has to offer."

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

I've drunk Co-op whisky, it's not pleasant.

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

But you do get more divvy, if you buy Co-op labelled products.

@LimeyRedneck 9 ай бұрын

Beaver Boy and Chaotic Neutral on top form!! 😆 Love these pubcasts and your serious stuff too, makes for a good contrast! 🤠💜

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

I was filming adverts in Russia in the early nineties. I messaged a photo to the leader of our group, of me drinking Glenfiddich Port Finish. On what I thought was a Friday morning, it wasn't, it was Saturday and I had been supposed to be bright eyed and bushy tailed, ready to start filming at 6 that morning. I wasn't a popular boy. I'd flown into Moscow from Afghanistan, and my idea of time was utterly warped.

@lisalisala117 9 ай бұрын

Im glad Oli did the intro before he started on the whiskey lol

@sempressfi 9 ай бұрын

That "they know when to take a lunch" but about her Italian fam during WWI had me friggin rolling 😂😂😂 needed that laugh. Love from across the pond! 🇺🇸💙🇬🇧

@7sevensevern 9 ай бұрын

I love you guys. You keep me sane or just give me some company in my madness. I enjoy hearing about your wobbly escapades Ava! Hope you recover all your wares!

@Jervify 9 ай бұрын

You three keep me sane sometimes. I often forget how to laugh amid all this, and it's important to sometimes.

@krytan69 9 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this news channel because you guys tell us British how it is and don't beat around the bush

@james-cucumber 9 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t come to these guys for news. Political and current affairs discussion, sure, but not news. They’ve been wrong in the past, and unlike other publications I don’t think I’ve ever seen a correction published by them.Great content don’t get me wrong, but it’s not a substitute for reputable news sources.

@markhoney3044 9 ай бұрын

This morning, I wasn't sure if I'd had too many drugs or not enough. Still not convinced either

@scarlettspear7447 9 ай бұрын

I know,right?!

@AvgGreen 9 ай бұрын

"Man like Ed Campbell" Get that on a T-shirt sharpish!

@phoenixkali 9 ай бұрын

Cameron was not elected in commons so he doesn’t belong there. Neither does Sunak.

@Adam-vu6bg 9 ай бұрын

Presidents are selected, not elected - Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote

@Whydoisuddenlyneedahandlewtf 9 ай бұрын

@@Adam-vu6bggood thing we don’t have a president then …

@chrisd5964 9 ай бұрын

OK, you don’t have to be elected to be a Minister in government (a peerage into the Lords will do) and we have never elected Prime Ministers, ever. Sunak does belong in the commons as he is an elected MP. You should learn about how our so called democracy works.

@northwall9243 9 ай бұрын

35:00 is one of the best Ava moments on the pubcast so far. Great episode, feels like it's back to form! "We've got on to the Monarchy and suddenly im on fire inside...it must be the whisky" of course, we distill it that way on purpose!

@gaztheman7879 9 ай бұрын

Thanks guys I’am at work but you gave a few belly laughs today you are both brilliant .

@Howyanow 9 ай бұрын

Ed better be getting paid serious overtime for that shift on Saturday

@mickeypye2593 9 ай бұрын

he got a neck rub and a happy ending from Yaxley-Fuckface when he 'wrapped'

@jackmorris8019 9 ай бұрын

Harold Wilson served twice as PM in no consecutive terms as well as Churchill. Not that it matters but there's more of a president than you'd think. The difference is they both continued to be leader of the party during their time in opposition, unlike Johnson

@stephenconway2468 9 ай бұрын

Suella was trying to be sacked. Her reason was to then launch a bid against Sunak (in my opinion). Cameron's return took the wind from any such launch. Timing is key in politics and Sunak has taken a lot of the wind from her sails. His move, whatever you think of it, was different. I think from his standpoint it was a clever tactical response. Longer term is another issue and frankly this government does not have much in the longer term left to concern itself with. The big play now is whether the Tory civil war breaks out. I think Sunak knows that his legacy is not going to be winning the next election, but it can be kicking out the nutter extremist/populist right wing.

@DebatingWombat 9 ай бұрын

I don’t think Braverman was aiming for an immediate challenge to Sunak, because that would leave her as an “interlude PM” and land her with the blame for an almost certain and whopping beating at the next election. I think her plan is to be “the Tory internal opposition” and then blame Sunak and his allies for the upcoming Tory defeat, claiming that this would never have happened if the Tories had followed her line instead. Then she’ll challenge Sunak (if he doesn’t simply step down) in the wake of the catastrophic Tory defeat at the polls when only the most extreme zealots in the party can muster any enthusiasm for yet another leadership scrap. Conversely, Sunak probably won’t kick out Braverman and the zealots, because that might turn an already extremely bad electoral situation into an even worse disaster. The fact that Sunak has kept Braverman on until now indicates that he’s not going to get into an open fight with her and the zealots, let alone try to push them out of the Tory Party and thus risking a serious challenge/spoiler run from a “UKIP 2.0”-style competing party to his right, fired up on a revenge ride.

@stephenconway2468 9 ай бұрын

@@DebatingWombat If you are correct, then she overplayed her hand. That shows lack of understanding and capability.

@maxriley1769 9 ай бұрын

@DebatingWombat I agree with this. Her tactical thinking probably goes something like "the British economy is shit. The Tories will obviously lose the next election. Labour probably won't be able to magic everything right again in five years. There's a non-zero chance that things that really assist recruitment for the Right will increase in Britain over the next five years (ie: uncontrolled migrant flows)."

@stewarthayhurst1079 9 ай бұрын

Nothing compared to the Russian money in the tory party

@GoldnDusty 9 ай бұрын

Big fan of the Orson Welles edit for Goldenboi's broadcast from the beyond. Seems an appropriate still to edit.

@joncroweucl 9 ай бұрын

Would advocate against drinking spirits on the pod. You can tell after 45 mins it's creeping up on Oli and the quality starts to dip. No knocking the pod, I love it.

@SingularityMedia 9 ай бұрын

Popped in to say hello to the EDL boys crying in the comments. Chin(s) up lads.

@martynholden3478 9 ай бұрын

EDL doesn't exist so you are saying hello to nobody it was disbanded in 2015

@django3422 9 ай бұрын

@@martynholden3478And Robinson's planned comeback event really didn't go well...

@martynholden3478 9 ай бұрын

@@django3422 he didn't plan a comeback and if you watch the live stream recordings you will see he had left before any of the trouble had happened

@martynholden3478 9 ай бұрын

@@django3422 whether you are on the left or the right the establishment is against us all

@django3422 9 ай бұрын

@@martynholden3478 I saw his videos that he put out prior to the event, as well as footage of him at the event before he left. Don't try and tell me he wasn't hoping to become relevant again. And of course he ran away before anything significant happened. That's what he does, he's a coward and a charlatan.

@m.a.b.4104 9 ай бұрын

As someone outside the country and has been disgusted at the UK police at times over the years (violence against women, racism etc), they really seem to have done a good job over the last week.

@awkwardatlas5623 9 ай бұрын

Feckin hell, home alone and this countdown music scared the shit out of me!

@metalhead2550 9 ай бұрын

The Slug Daddy returns!

@jim9142 9 ай бұрын

You guys are fucking heros, and you hired a Scot. Mon then \o/

@Appleloucious 9 ай бұрын

One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

@fintanbeirne7261 9 ай бұрын

Therapist: Road-Eva can’t hurt you Road-Eva: 🔪👩‍🍳

@davidmacgillemhuire9286 9 ай бұрын

Slainte, troops!

@stephenwalker850 9 ай бұрын

Was the EDL henchman who was triumphantly holding aloft ah police riot helmet doing so respectfully 👮🏻‍♂️

@martynholden3478 9 ай бұрын

EDL don't exist anymore they were disbanded back in 2015

@seriousoldman8997 9 ай бұрын

@@martynholden3478Extremely Dumb Leeanderthals?

@MrSanguine 9 ай бұрын

Would have been perfect if Suella had turned up and made a speech from the top of the Boadicea monument by Westminster bridge

@90kaste 9 ай бұрын

Can't really understand why Ava is keeping 10 messages antisemitic up against a MILLION of people asking for PEACE. That's not a proper comparison, and discussing these 0.0001% is very naive. The narrative will be shifted by comparing THUGS and PEACE PROTEST. I found it very naive that the thoughts of "have to defend" you should look at Owen and how he tackled the false narrative over the march on GMB.

@tomfrancis7920 9 ай бұрын

I feel somewhere in this mess over the weekend there was a sorely missed opportunity for a 'sacked in the morning' chant

@robleesejones 9 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I wanted to see tonight. Love you guys.

@dannyboom1 9 ай бұрын

This one was excellent! Politics, gardens, fishing and booze combined to audio perfection! 😅

@hanumaniam 9 ай бұрын

The whole drinking culture glorification is getting a bit old.

@dansonthetube 9 ай бұрын

45 years of enjoying it has taught me that all whiskey is better 50 / 50 #FlavourBoosted 👍

@Notalloldpeople 9 ай бұрын

Agreed

@SirJakeusMaximus 9 ай бұрын

Listening to this at work today and you two had me in stitches "you're not English anymore at the cenotaph, that doesn't respond in all its majesty" 🤣

@RandallSlick 9 ай бұрын

Well, that was indeed a rapid and rare descent into lucidity.

@frederickgallucci6558 9 ай бұрын

As someone of Italian descent I can confirm we do know when to take lunch.

@rufioh 9 ай бұрын

Does Cameron’s peerage come with a title? Lord of Hogsmouth maybe?

@Lamartine111 9 ай бұрын

Harold Wilson, Stanley Baldwin and Ramsey MacDonald also did multiple stints as PM in the 20th century.

@judithmatthews8460 9 ай бұрын

Coke with whisky. Sacrilege!

@chrishughes3405 9 ай бұрын

Yay my drinking feels less naughty and more angry. Woo whiskey.

@777jimothy 9 ай бұрын

Love Ava's voice its like velvet for the ears

@peterlorimer3552 9 ай бұрын

Christ, that was tedious.

@jusnewquay 9 ай бұрын

"Shaun did me in three moves". 😂😂

@peteradaniel 9 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t the Jewish chronicle be distancing themselves from Suella considering her words were in defence of the British Jews and against antisemitism. Who’d have thought to get neo Nazis out to defend antisemitism?

@ovilord 9 ай бұрын

I was there with you on the seppuku comment Ollie, you're not a dork!

@grizcuz 9 ай бұрын

Ceno says NO Robbo, Ceno says NO.

@drorange2261 9 ай бұрын

You should definitely make a chess episode.... it should be banter chess and every move is commented as current affairs.

@bilbofaggin5 2 ай бұрын

THEY ALL FUCKING DID, BRIAN! THEY ALL DID!

@dominiceuanbyrne 9 ай бұрын

Love the cut at 44:21 when Ollie clearly went on a massive rant about Therese Coffey

@sfshinz 9 ай бұрын

Italy was on “Our Side” during “The Great War”.

@stevemc81 9 ай бұрын

Wilson did two terms with a gap

@gilesk 9 ай бұрын

Please do not follow other podcasts by drifting into the "banter is better than content" keep it real.

@scottb32a 9 ай бұрын

what was Cameron doing at the festival I wonder ?

@tdh1990 9 ай бұрын

Cocaine mostly, especially if Gove was involved

@ILikedGooglePlus 9 ай бұрын

Love you lovebug - Da x

@ILikedGooglePlus 9 ай бұрын

Ava chess twitch when?

@maxradwan7979 9 ай бұрын

I mean the ‘football hooligans’ thing is very blatant profiling and should be challenged. Seems odd to me that a 1000 die-hard football fans would chose a Saturday afternoon (when there are 100s of games on up and down the country) to go out protesting. Would love to know when Tommy Robinson was last seen supporting his beloved Luton Town down at Kenilworth Road.

@binkyboobosh1 9 ай бұрын

300k marched on the peace march. The arrest rate was lower than that of 300k people who were not on the march. There were 82 arrests at the Cenotaph where the numbers were in the hundreds. Enough said. Also, stay sober when you're discussing important material lest you come over as trivial.

@IndaloMan 9 ай бұрын

@ava tried to leave 20€ (to buy you a caña) behind the bar in the upstairs dining room at Pikes a few weeks back. They wouldn't let me. Keep up the brilliant reporting, if Ollie/Ed post a Spanish bar pic I will attempt the same. #gracias

@hapijoel7569 9 ай бұрын

Anyone have a link to the article about Labour donations Oli was mentioning? Couldn't make out what publication he's referencing

@charlesmorrish909 9 ай бұрын

Gabriel Pogrund, Sunday Times

@jasontaylor794 9 ай бұрын

I'd quite like to have heard the rant about Thérèse Coffey that was obvs cut.

@mrdaveythebaby 9 ай бұрын

Good show guys.

@fluffyollie 9 ай бұрын

I was about to eat before the image of ball-tickling was VERY vividly described...

@lordhenrywotton95 9 ай бұрын

Makes sense to use an exclusion order to keep the two groups apart.

@stevenphillips1443 9 ай бұрын

How do you check if a placard is anti-semetic ? (honest question)

@gazzoh 9 ай бұрын

Yep, just what the country needs, some more David Cameron FFS!

@tbrooke3016 9 ай бұрын

I love how dignified the love politics hate nonces was without Ed 😅

@anonUK 9 ай бұрын

I don't know why they keep on bringing up nonces.

@mikeedwards83 9 ай бұрын

I will start the bidding, £50 for Ollie!

@LimeyRedneck 9 ай бұрын

Ava, what on earth did Brian do to you?!! 😳😅

@veggienugnugs 9 ай бұрын

This may push me to abandon my fear and finally learn how to use reddit

@killforkylie 9 ай бұрын

The ducks would eat the slugs.

@mikehocksbig 7 ай бұрын

Isn’t Linton Capital your venture capitalist backer??

@p_84 9 ай бұрын

I'd just like to point out Ava mentioned the words "erected" & "beavers" in the same sentence. That's all; carry on.

@daves4026 9 ай бұрын

Boozing and shatting @hit is a real turn off people

@allanmcdowall6568 9 ай бұрын

Pictures of guy wearing stab vest.crazy.

@davidfoster2006 9 ай бұрын

So all these people that went to the Cenotaph, read her article in the Times then, so totally nonsense.

@SingularityMedia 9 ай бұрын

Of course not, they can't read.

@HankGlamorous 9 ай бұрын

stanley baldwin in the 20th also had a bit of a break, cause he lost

@Mark-gq8ei 9 ай бұрын

Speaking as a bald guy - make fun of the hairlines.

@Lezzyboy87 9 ай бұрын

Why did the marchers not self police?

@BUFUmic 9 ай бұрын

I think Ava needs to do her bit and start an Only Fans were she just reads Edwina Currie diary entries about John Major to help the channel a bit...

@jackkruese4258 9 ай бұрын

No she’s too arrogant.

@hanumaniam 9 ай бұрын

6:28 approx is when the actual politics of Joe starts 😊

@hanumaniam 9 ай бұрын

Or maybe more like 8:00

@danjlilley 9 ай бұрын

Oli, let me know if you want to talk to someone about your alcohol consumption :)

@capt.bart.roberts4975 9 ай бұрын

Tommeh, does like his Peruvian Marching Dust. Btw it was a Pride Cab!

@llum0121 9 ай бұрын

What does dressed as hamas mean btw?

@stephenmcilroy7840 9 ай бұрын

Oink oink 🐷 piggies!

@dst_20 9 ай бұрын

Its quite a serious matter... so this whole chummy jokey thing these 2 are doing is absolutely tone deaf

@stevenphillips1443 9 ай бұрын

but a highly principled coward ?!?