Mercedes’ first unit-constructed car of the post-WWII era, this humble 180 sedan was $1,000 more expensive than a ’58 Ford and just $250 less than a ’58 Corvette! So what made them so popular? And where is the radiator cap?
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@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
He missed the 4 speed column shifter. My friend's family brought 3 57s over from Yugoslavia in the 60s. The shifter surprised the hell out of me. A very uncool car for a high school kid in 69, but impressive to mechanical minds
@robbchastain303610 ай бұрын
I was a teen military dependent in Frankfurt, West Germany in the mid-'70s and I happily got around by bicycle and even motorcycle and I'll never forget all the Benzes in the streets, they were everywhere and here I had expected VW Bugs to the most popular car, not even close. And one afternoon a teacher at Frankfurt High hauled a few of us to an event or something and he said, "This will probably be the only time you ever ride in a Mercedes-Benz." He was clearly proud of his car and, well, so far, he was right in a sense--no more rides in a classic Benz like his, just a couple of rides in an '80s Benz with a colleague. Yet these days, tho' I have no Benz-type money, I honestly don't find the modern models all that appealing as all that makes then stand out are the oversized stars. Something is cartoonish about their lines, but Mercedes is not alone, I suppose, in working that glam hard.
@MrTheHillfolk10 ай бұрын
I picked up a decent 80 240d manual for 6k last year,they are still obtainable.
@robbchastain303610 ай бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk Thanks for mentioning that and I cheer your purchase and you are right, I looked up 240Ds and indeed they are available at reasonable prices and I'd rather pay for a distinguished classic than most modern built-to-fade, gizmo-laden, plastic-and-computer vehicles.
@MrTheHillfolk10 ай бұрын
@@robbchastain3036 for sure man. I was surprised at how reasonable they are. Trim parts will hurt bad I the wallet but maintenance parts are not bad at all. What I found interesting is the list price in 1980 on that car was around 17k!! Wow, my mom's 81 diesel rabbit was 7200 and that was a little steep! 17k and that was one of the lower end cost cars. Mine just sat for like 2mo, went out and looked for critters under the hood and it started up as soon as the starter rolled over. That's the real German engineering that we hear about, not this new plastic stuff.
@tomhorst761411 ай бұрын
I learned to drive in a 59 220S. An amazingly durable car that served us well. 6 cylinder engine with dual carburetors and 4 speed on the column. Such a smooth ride, it started my life-long love for the Classic Mercedes. Currently drive a 91 560 SEC coupe, owned for 23 years.
@MrTheHillfolk10 ай бұрын
OMG I've got a bad Jones for a 91 560sec after I saw a jet black one at a show a few years back. It was for sale ,but coming from vws I knew better than to buy something I knew nothing about. What a beautiful car. I did score an 80 240d manual from a customer that's nice ,but I want a murdered out 560sec 😁
@tomhorst761410 ай бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk , I take mine to a lot of shows, have only seen one other through the years. It was an AMG tribute car and really beat up. This is a car you don't see everyday. She has been gaining much attention lately. In a favorite color, teal blue metallic.
@MrTheHillfolk10 ай бұрын
@tomhorst7614 Yeah I recall one called the hammer and those are pretty nice cars. Hah, I'm still kicking myself about that 560 I saw but I didn't want to jump in without some knowledge. Quite an amazing car ,I see they were 75-95k new, in that range so I was a little suspicious when I saw that one going for approximately 1/10 the cost when new. Hah someday I'll find one.
@danweyant490910 ай бұрын
New Englander " in-TEG-ral" , the rest of us: " Inta-gral"
@truracer209 ай бұрын
The added bracing was for a floor pan replacement. It looks like someone intended to restore the car. They probably gave up after realizing that parts aren't abundant. There's a good chance that in the search for a floor pan they found a more solid example.
@andreamills585211 ай бұрын
Sure hope you are doing well .
@jeffclark272510 ай бұрын
Great way to start a Sunday morning, Steve and an old Benz,😮thumbs up
@jlang821310 ай бұрын
That deer head creeps me out... Looks like a rancid zombie!
@Daniel-fd3wp10 ай бұрын
Great punk band Rancid.
@ericvandomselaar842011 ай бұрын
Wow, the Ponton.
@bad74maverick110 ай бұрын
That car is solid enough to save and make a restomod out of it!
@RonnN-gf8tm11 ай бұрын
The wild eyed reindeers driving this one today 😅😂 Have a great day Steve!!
@Mark-vd8oi10 ай бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU. YOU REALY REASEARCH these cars n trucks. We wouldn't know any of this stuff. It's a strong built cool car
@THROTTLEPOWER11 ай бұрын
That would make a cool Rat Rod!
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
It would definitely pass the 20-ft appearance standard with my cataracts......
@THROTTLEPOWER10 ай бұрын
@@67marlins 👍👍
@hofthomecrap953410 ай бұрын
Mercedes was certainly an innovative auto-company back in the day, but I’d have certainly bought the ‘Vette investment-wise!
@nolansmith57111 ай бұрын
Reupload??
@marygott6610 ай бұрын
😊 Steve man thank you, I'm sorry that got cancel but I'm glad in a way because you're doing I'm not able to move too much and what you're doing is my favourite thing hunting for cars in wrecking yards my favourite wrecking yard is closed here in Canada two generations of family running at the third-generation no longer wanted to do it so it's gone😢 but with that said the stuff you do is the the coolest thing that I would love to do to but not very many yards have this old stuff in Canada our stuff here in Ontario Tends to rot from the door handles down, and this Mercedes is cool if I were more mobile and had the money I'd love to go down and pick that Mercedes up and complete what somebody started😊 again thank you so much for doing this channel, Thank You 😊
@will7its10 ай бұрын
Hope your doing ok Steve. Get back soon.....
@mdcuddy328610 ай бұрын
I wished you had the engine from that MB as you would find it very similar to the Datsun 1.6 L engines of the 70's. As a mater of fact, when buying tools for working on the Datsun, MAC and Snap-On listed the valve adjusting wrench as a Mercedes tool! torque specs and tolerances were identical! The other models during the 70's, the 1200, and B210, owed their engines to the lowly Austin A30's. Only difference was the Datsun engine didn't leak as much oil (of course the aluminum heads were different also). I loved the 'four on the tree' shifting as well as all the fittings for lubrication. Such things as door hinges, hood and trunk hinges, both the brake and clutch pedals, as well as almost all points where movement between two or more parts were lubed. Now of course it is the nylon/plastic era and these are guaranteed to fail sooner. Keep up the crawl!
@oldblueshhrchannel18478 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve , keep getting better!
@shuttlemanjack10 ай бұрын
I bought a used 1958 180 in 1974 in Sunnyvale CA. Great car. It still had torque paint on a lot of fittings.
@mikegreer904111 ай бұрын
I really missed hearing you at road kill nights.
@jakegarvin76345 ай бұрын
"Here, let me just destroy this M-B body forever until the end of time"
@peterantonopoulos257211 ай бұрын
Morning Steve......
@edmonk491210 ай бұрын
That rotting deer always freaks me out. I have to look away from its dead eyes and rotting nose
@Fore-Four-Dee-Too9 ай бұрын
Get well soon Steve!
@ricksaint200010 ай бұрын
Thank you Steve
@The_R-n-I_Guy6 ай бұрын
We're all pulling for you Steve. Hope to see you soon
@chriscadman637911 ай бұрын
Good morning.
@googleusergp10 ай бұрын
Another repeat, so I'll add in what I did the last time: That "MB Tex" type material wears like iron even after being out in the elements for decades. No VIN, can't win, but might go something like: L for left hand drive, 120 for 180 Series, 0 for gasoline engine, then a two digit model code, then N for standard transmission or Z for Hydrax clutch, 85 for 1958 model year (58 reversed), and the rest is the production sequence. Should be code DB40 "Schwarz" (Black) exterior paint. These were sometimes called "Roundies" by the Mercedes-philes.
@dougtodd30510 ай бұрын
I never saw a 180 or 190 with leather, my 220s had leather
@SSV-i-c-e10 ай бұрын
Looks like they were going to put new floors in it by that brace frame.i had a 64 190 4cylinder punched way above its weight for a little engine in a heavy car cruise at 80mph.great video as normal.hi from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@dkstudioart10 ай бұрын
Just a little nit pick. The fact that the hub caps were steel had nothing to do with the Korean "conflict", which had been over 5 years by this car's model year. Chrome was also in short supply during Korea, many cars and trucks had painted bumpers 1950-52. Stainless and chrome were not in short supply after 1953, American cars went crazy with the stuff in the mid to late 50's after all.
@monsterstereos183610 ай бұрын
Do a video on that golden Imperial.
@dumahim10 ай бұрын
He already did. This is an old video.
@charleshulsey310310 ай бұрын
That model kit would be really cool as full function RC🤔🤔🤔
@UberLummox10 ай бұрын
Steve, that model is of the big Adenauer 300 sedan. THAT is the car the 300 gullwing & roadster were based on.
@tomrobinson291911 ай бұрын
Like the animals…😁 Enjoy your effort…
@dougtodd30510 ай бұрын
No on the 2 door,l had a 170,180 190, 2,190sls,and a 220sb
@N2YTA10 ай бұрын
Some Studebaker dealers initially refused accept delivery of Mercedes Benz vehicles.
@ChaChiVooDoo10 ай бұрын
Because they knew people would buy more of them than their beloved outdated Studebakers
@Mercmad10 ай бұрын
And most of the Mercedes/Studebaker dealers eventually became Datsun dealers.
@arthurmccarron43799 ай бұрын
Great. Style
@SuperOperator411 ай бұрын
What's in the box!!!!!!!!!????????????
@hughmarloweverest168411 ай бұрын
Would have bought the Ford Fairlane for a multiplicity of reasons. One of them, if I am driving on Route 66 back in the day, parts and servicing could be more easily located.
@jeffrobodine857911 ай бұрын
The Fairlane with it's standard 223 I-6 had more than double the horsepower (135-145 gross bhp) for a lot less money.
@BCaldwell11 ай бұрын
Well aren't you a genius 😂
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@BCaldwellAnd you can't express yourself without cartoon faces........
@Daniel-fd3wp10 ай бұрын
@67marlins You got him.
@ChaChiVooDoo10 ай бұрын
The Ford would have died years before this car. And been much less reliable and had very poor build quality. Thats the huge difference. My 1960 180D has over 500,000 miles. Very common for a Ponton diesel. How many Fairlanes did that?
@faygoforthejuggalo8 ай бұрын
Get well Steve
@tomwesley788411 ай бұрын
Junkyard Crawl
@junkman742610 ай бұрын
Is that Noodles? from The Offspring?
@dougeaton244610 ай бұрын
Only way I'd build that model kit is... if I had another just like it
@user-pr8zn6iw5t9 ай бұрын
get well soon
@kenttalsma790610 ай бұрын
Dig it, man!
@Jupitermustangmike10 ай бұрын
Lardbucket
@oldsledpurgatory359511 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that gas cap was a 262.
@rawbsworld660411 ай бұрын
Rudy ! 👍😆
@daveridgeway263910 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, good video, good car! Thank you for pointing out the model number of the Mercedes, I.e. 180 stands for 1.8L, and/or 1800 cubic centimeters engine. The Datsun 240Z is a 2.4L, and/or 2400 cubic centimeters engine. The Datsun 260Z is a 2.6L and/or 2600 cubic centimeters engine and so on. Please reply. Dave...
@demetridar50610 ай бұрын
I do not think that these were built as 2 doors. Only 4 doors. The more expensive version of these, perhaps 1955 was indeed built as 2 dr and 4dr. The hardtop versions of these look super nice. That yellow car on the background, is that a 1970 Imperial? Perhaps 69.
@UberLummox10 ай бұрын
Right, not in the 180/190 ranges, but there was a little 220 (S?) 2dr. hdtp. coupe. Pretty rare though. '69 Imperials had different, one year only side markers. I believe that one is a '70. I have a black '71 Imperial LeBaron coupe!
@Mercmad10 ай бұрын
They were available as Coupes (220S and SE) and Cabrio's. These are the top of the ponton range.
@RonNorman-qu4qz10 ай бұрын
Hey Steve I hope you get this message. On the high-flow exhaust manifolds the HP exhaust . Why is it there's only two bolts in the center cylinders or am I not seeing it right. With two bolts that would make for an easy exhaust leak
@jennifermcgean61569 ай бұрын
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@importsstillsuck10 ай бұрын
Wikipedia says the 180 was an I-6🤔
@MauiWauiPineappleExpress10 ай бұрын
Correct the 2.2L M180 I6 (220a) and 2.2L M180.924 I6 (220S). Funny fact The early Toyota and Nissan straight six Engines were heavily based on the Mercedes ones! Steve is mixing in the W105 and W128 series!
@importsstillsuck10 ай бұрын
@@MauiWauiPineappleExpress ah, I see
@IowaBudgetRCBashers11 ай бұрын
Imported and sold by Studebaker dealers
@jaymorgan801711 ай бұрын
Mercedes isn't well due to Tesla cutting into their sales.
@lilmike271011 ай бұрын
A passing fad I'm willing to wager
@deanstevenson652711 ай бұрын
Guess what cost Tesla's had to buy the M~ B manufacturing parts it shares..quite a good windfall for Mercedes Benz...
@jessesan200311 ай бұрын
But don't confuse this with..................
@deanstevenson652711 ай бұрын
Messerschmitt Bf109? The gas cap could be made out of one...
@Fony_turgeson10 ай бұрын
are these reupload?
@dumahim10 ай бұрын
yes
@donnarolando396110 ай бұрын
Never understood why you mark up your old literature w/ pens/ markers. Why not post-its?
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
Thank you Donna!!!! Why would someone RUIN collectible, valuable auto literature!?!
@johnkranyics28110 ай бұрын
He probably has a set of mint copies in his vault.
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@johnkranyics281 Doesn't matter....why destroy and de-value vintage literature?
@donnarolando396110 ай бұрын
@@67marlins Have to agree.
@johnnywadd302010 ай бұрын
repeat
@jeffrobodine857911 ай бұрын
o7
@UnfinishedProjectDartSport11 ай бұрын
~
@deanstevenson652711 ай бұрын
🎯~⚽™✓
@UnfinishedProjectDartSport11 ай бұрын
@@deanstevenson6527 Have a great night Dean!!
@michaelnazaruk410011 ай бұрын
I don't care whether a 1958 Ford Fairlane would have cost $1000 more than this Benz, I'll take the Ford any day of the week over that underpowered toad.
@DanKirchner515011 ай бұрын
but what?
@deanstevenson652711 ай бұрын
Messerschmitt Bf109...
@UnfinishedProjectDartSport11 ай бұрын
Focke-Wulf Fw 190
@DanEBoyd11 ай бұрын
Some of those Fokkers were Messerschmitts!!
@Henry_Jones11 ай бұрын
Top notch build quality while Cadillac cheaped out to persue sales in the 70s. Thats when cadillac lost its exclucivity. They became too cheap and affordable. Its not luxury if everyone can afford it.
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
Anything built by General Motors today is basically a joke. Once you drive a Mercedes, you will laugh at GM's attempts to build a luxury car.
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
@@67marlins In your mind, but not in reality. Funny how my Mercedes E63 performance sedan carriers a higher resale value, by far, than anything ever built by General Motors, including the Corvette (yawn yawn).
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@GoldenGun-Florida And still their sales are poor.......imagine that.
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
@@67marlins Not sure where you get your information. Both dealers here in Orlando tell me that their entire allocation of vehicles for the next two months are already presold. I hear the same from dealers in Atlanta, Birmingham and Nashville. Now, if your area is primarily dominated by Ford pickups, maybe they are not in demand as much.
@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
Most Mercedes on the road in the 50s to 70s felt utilitarian compared to even mid level American cars. My friend's 73? diesel was loud, and drove like a truck. Just not suited to most American's tastes. Even to my wealthy Albanian immigrant landlord, his 74 Coupe de Ville was the epitome in luxury. My Greek boss agreed. His wife insisted on having a Mercedes. To him, they were crap. To each one's own
@darrenbrisson433610 ай бұрын
My buddy jim and his brother daves mom had a biyfriend roy one day he came out of their house crying his mom had booted him out the door he had a old Mercedes sitting in the laneway he says you can have it we were only kids we went crazy and beat the fugg out of that piece of shit broke every window lights jumped on the roof we went crazy it was an fugly p.o.s to us as our neighborhood had some cool cars around darts cudas old novas we were just kids
@matthewmcnew63311 ай бұрын
Is this a new video ?
@jeffrobodine857911 ай бұрын
No leaves on the trees and dead leaves on the ground make me think this was prerecorded.
@blowupbob110 ай бұрын
If you have to ask, then it's new to you.
@dumahim10 ай бұрын
If you're not sure, just search his videos for the same video title. The original uploads are still there.
@mymoparstoo9 ай бұрын
The Mercedes isn't my cup of tea.
@Henry_Jones11 ай бұрын
Mercedes problem today is the EU and german govt regulating them out of business. Theyd rather keep Gretta Thumberg happy than working class germans.
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
That's a shame, if you're correct.......
@ostrich6710 ай бұрын
@@67marlins He is not.
@Mercmad10 ай бұрын
@@ostrich67 He is, Germany is spelt W-O-K-E in 2023.
@ostrich6710 ай бұрын
@@Mercmad That’s why they have a much higher standard of living than the United States. But you just keep clinging to your God, your guns and your flag.
@jaybeemhardscrote74669 ай бұрын
That makes no sense, regulations apply to all automakers equally and so therefore should be affecting all of them equally? The auto industry is selling more and more vehicles every year so they don't seem to be doing too bad? How would it Disproportionatly be affecting MB but not 2nd largest automaker in the world VWAG?
@samuelcraigsr434810 ай бұрын
Sad day this is a rerun.
@67marlins11 ай бұрын
Advanced? For 1958, it's a slow, primitive antiquated old joke.
@oops195210 ай бұрын
But there's still metal there after 65 years. Its a long lasting joke. The old model T used good metal.....to bad detroit forgot about build quality
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@oops1952. Be aware.... Detroit maintained build quality longer than you think..... My father's 1977 LTD II Wagon racked up 532,000 Fully-Documented miles on the original V-8, 351M V-8; with C-4 Automatic transmission. That was when Ford, by it's own admission, did NOT build their best cars. Ours was well maintained to be sure, but still in turn did everything asked of it. A bulletproof powertrain & body that lasted TRIPLE the life of any ugly-ass euro box. It travelled to Florida at least twice, and Oklahoma once to haul a 1958 Ford Ranchero back home to Maryland.
@Mercmad10 ай бұрын
In the factory issued Workshop manual Volume 1 it gives max speeds of the various models for tune up use. The 220 ,carbureted car has t o do 160KPH,101 Miles per hour. The 219, a 180 with a 220 front and engine will do 176 KPH. I spent most of my youth playing with american V8 engines. A stock 265 Chev v8 or Ford 272 V8 will not do 100 Mph and neither feel safe approaching those speeds,wheres Daimler built cars to run on the autobahn which had no Speed limits back then.
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@Mercmad An sbc or Ford Y block can't do 100? Your post is meant to be a joke, correct?
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
If I started a KZfaq channel, and had a handful of videos, then re-uploaded them each day would you be supportive of that practice?
@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
Depends on how good they were. Why ask if you don't have a channel, and almost definitely never will?
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
If it was good content....I think we'd all enjoy it whether you built-up content or released right away....!?!
@oops195211 ай бұрын
I'd have bought something cheaper in '58 but your average ford would never make it to '84
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
Wrong
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
@@67marlins I drove Lincolns before switching over to Mercedes about 23 years ago. While I did enjoy Lincoln, the Mark VIII, Continental and the Town Car, I found that Mercedes produces a better vehicle hands down. My parents drove GM products so I was inclined to drive domestic cars. Gotta tell you though, if I quit driving Mercedes, I could go right back to Lincoln in a moment.
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@GoldenGun-Florida Lincolns endured better than Cadillac in many cases....yes.
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
Oops 1952. EVERY American V-8 I ever owned lasted 250,000 to 532,000 miles.....certified & documented. Specifically ....... Ford 351M, 390, 429. Chrysler 383, 318.
@GoldenGun-Florida10 ай бұрын
@@67marlins I owned a dealership with a full service repair facility for 20 years. You?
@GoldenGun-Florida11 ай бұрын
Yet another re-upload which is presented around 6 am to appear to be fresh content. Unacceptable.
@josephesposito781811 ай бұрын
Thought you were no longer going to visit the channel? Your comment is a re-upload.
@frankjones409411 ай бұрын
@@josephesposito7818we're a little tired of the complaint reruns. Hopefully Mags is doing well.
@mikeadie703110 ай бұрын
@@frankjones4094 I’m sure it is another health setback.
@dougeaton244610 ай бұрын
Hes probably on the road with barret Jackson or something.... but there's a good reason for it I'm sure be patient new ones will come. These old vids are just as good. I've noticed something new in each of them.... be glad he's putting this wonderful content out for us.
@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
OOH, UNACCEPTABLE!!! THOU HAST SPOKEN!!! OFF WITH HIS HEAD, SAYS THE QUEEN!!! Don't watch then.
@marioncobaretti228011 ай бұрын
Another old rehash video , gender change is a long procedure for some fellas
@GoldenGun-Florida11 ай бұрын
yeah - same old stuff...literally
@xfactorautomotive149611 ай бұрын
Go away!
@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
I guess you would know, hon
@67marlins10 ай бұрын
@@robertmoffett3486 What on Earth did he mean or imply about the gender thing.. ..?!?
@robertmoffett348610 ай бұрын
@67marlins At first I thought it was a lame attempt to insult Steve, who apparently has required a medical procedure, but seeing the username, maybe it's a complaint about his/her/their own transition.
@rockfordhx27689 ай бұрын
If we lose Steve it’s like losing a library I swear to god I pray I pray everyday that he gets better just for his family not even for us the KZfaq family I’m talking his inner real family