Hey that's great to hear Mark; you always want to troubleshoot the least expensive stuff first before replacing the expensive stuff like the capacitor. I've only had a few occasions where a dead capacitor was the problem, but many times when the shaft was to blame.

Glad to hear! :)

Glad to know it worked out for you! Yeah rotating the impeller from the front can also work, it's usually more labor intensive though.

When in doubt…youtube.

Thank you!

Haha, good! Glad I got you out of a tight spot.

Good to hear!

Willowtree Pool Service I’d say you saved me 300.00

@@HELPTHEMPLEASE There you go! :) 💰💰💰

Yes, some do! Makes it super easy to turn 👍

Glad to hear! In my experience, regular run time of the motor is sufficient to prevent further corrosion and seizing of the shaft; in the client's pool from the video, the motor hasn't jammed any more since I recorded it. However, we keep their pool open year round so it never stays off for long.

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Good tip!

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Those are good observations Chase. Personally, I have never had a capacitor fail on my route that I know of, but in theory if one was bad the motor would be unable to start even if power was being supplied by the circuit breaker. And you're right, whenever servicing pumps at the back cover, it's always a good idea to discharge the capacitor before servicing it. Typically I don't and I paid for it the other day when my elbow accidentally brushed up against the capacitor terminals. It gave me a good jolt and a cut on my forearm!

Both my capacitors were broken but my pump still ran.

Open up the back cover and place your pliers on the shaft with one hand and turn on the pump with the other. When you hear it humming, immediately fling the shaft to the right (clockwise) with the pliers and see if it starts running. Are you sure you replaced it with the correct model of capacitor?

@@willowtreepoolservice764 that was part of the problem. My capacitor was 40.0uf. The only one I found to fit was a 60.0uf, but still 370vac. My motor has a fan on the back so it is easy to spin, but it doesn't seem to spin fast enough to start pulling water. I filled all I could with a hose before starting. Still not pumping. I appreciate your help.

@@rcracechamp I would consider either finding the correct capacitor or just getting a new pump entirely. Not necessarily cheap I know but at least that way you're guaranteed to solve your problem. If you can afford it, I recommend the new generation variable speed pumps, I almost never have an issue with them.

It sounds like the motor is either really old or is experiencing more than typical amounts of corrosion or rust. Or it could also be that the shaft was bent somehow in the front. Any of those could result in slow turning. You may be able to spray some WD40 in the back of the motor shaft successfully, but I'm not sure how much of a risk that would pose to the electronics inside.

@@willowtreepoolservice764 I ended up getting it spinning freely again, but now there is water coming out the bottom. I’m thinking it might be the shaft seal, but without taking it apart I don’t know for sure. Any other ideas on what it could be?

Sounds like the shaft seal needs replacement, the other culprits might be the diffuser oring or the housing oring. But it’s probably one of the gaskets. I’d buy a seal kit for your specific pump on Amazon and replace all the seals to see if that fixes the problem. It’s not hard, anyone can do it if you have a screwdriver and pair of pliers.

That is correct, there needs to be power to the circuit breaker for there to be power to the motor.

How'd it work out ?

What is the pump brand? Is it used or refurbished?

@@willowtreepoolservice764 hayward. I kept turning the shaft and it never got better. I had to use pliers to move the shaft. It moved a little then stopped. Something inside was preventing it from spinning freely.

Maybe when you took the skimmer basket out leaves fell over the side into the pot and when you turned the pump back on they got sucked up into the impeller. The impeller is a propeller like thing that flings water up into the the pipe above the pump. The basket is the last line of protection before debris would get stuck in it. Remove the basket and stick your finger into the hole at the back of the pump housing. If you feel debris in there you'll have to clean it out somehow. Another possibility is that the pump is old and the shaft seal inside the pump needs to be replaced. That's usually the cause for loud high pitched whines.

Hey Chris, the end result was that once the pump was jump started by twisting the main shaft with pliers, it was able to run on its own. Since that time, I have not needed to do this again.

On many motors these days, the shaft is covered by the governor (which is a metal tab looking part with two springs attached) and the V-switch over that. To jump start this variety, you need to grab the governor with a pair of pliers and fling it like you would the shaft right after turning the power on to the motor.

Hey Oscar, hmmm, I'm not sure. I haven't run into that issue before. Sounds like it might be an issue with the electrical hookup. Make sure everything is wired correctly, ie black to black, red to red, connected ground, circuit breaker is on. If it's a new pump, it shouldn't be an issue with the shaft being stuck.

@@aaronneuhaus7693 I loosen all the screws a little and now it is turning, I guess I just tightened too much

actually the bolts not screws

Yeah it can be, but it usually trips the circuit before that happens. If the pump runs for a few seconds and then suddenly turns off while smoking, then there might be a mismatch between the voltage from the breaker to the pump and it’s definitely more of a fire hazard.

Did I say that in the video?

If your pump is running on 220 and one side trips only allowing 110 to flow through, it would definitely have enough power to hum but not run.

@christiedixon1446 very true. Sorry I didn't consider this. I should have mentioned my pump is only 110. So I was able to get it to spin. Shaft was rusting. It ran for 30 minutes and ceased up again. I ended up buying another pump.

And how is it different? Do you have the model number? I can take a look.

@@willowtreepoolservice764 figure it out, my capacitor was the issue.

Why not? What is the problem with this?

@@MrBasvannuland Russian bot is an idiot

Sand filter is the only way to go. No way to clean cartridge filters accept disassembly . Very stupid don't understand why they're still on the market.

@@greghackney8437 if you were in the pool industry you would find out real fast that sand filters dont filter as well as a cartridge or DE filter. Sand filters filter down to particles at 20 microns in size...cartridge filters down to 3-5 microns in size...DE filters down to 1-2 microns in size. Sand filters have alot of particles that go right thru them and back into the pool. Takes about 1-1.5 hours to disassemble a cartridge or DE filter, clean it and put it back together. Only have to do that once a year.

@@3819Rock yeah ok.

It sounds like there is a problem with the motor you bought; was it a resale?

@@willowtreepoolservice764 it actually fired up 10 minutes after I posted this and never did it since. It’s brand new. See how she does in the summer