POP SONG REVIEW: Drake and Kendrick's feud to end all feuds

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Todd in the Shadows

Todd in the Shadows

25 күн бұрын

This has been the craziest weekend in hip-hop history, but why does it leave such a sour taste?
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@kaitlyn1689
@kaitlyn1689 24 күн бұрын
Fun fact: This rap beef was trending on Tumblr. That's how inescapable it is. To quote an anime fanart blog: it's like finding one of those fully isolated islands populations that somehow still know who Michael Jackson is
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 24 күн бұрын
Hell, Fuwawa and Mococo Abysgard, two VTubers, are beefing with "Kevin Lamar". It's that big.
@sam3851
@sam3851 24 күн бұрын
My favourite post to come from that was "kendrick lamar wrecked drake’s shit so hard he’s trending number two on the white fujoshi website"
@staidenofanarchy
@staidenofanarchy 24 күн бұрын
I remember seeing memes on my dash and felt like I had a brick thrown through my window
@defeatableairman
@defeatableairman 24 күн бұрын
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 I've been bumping "BAUphoria" in the whip non-stop.
@malegria9641
@malegria9641 24 күн бұрын
@@sam3851THAT WAS HILARIOUS
@joeblanchard1584
@joeblanchard1584 24 күн бұрын
Kendrick officially removed all copyright claims from reaction videos using his diss tracks, and did not monetize his KZfaq uploads with ads, effectively losing out on millions of dollars. This to me proves that at least for Kendrick, the beef isn’t about money but is literally just because he hates Drake.
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
The songs are on streaming services, though, except for 6:16 in LA.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket 23 күн бұрын
@@sandenson oh no the songs are available on popular services people use to listen to music what a sellout
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
@@stevethepocket I'm just contesting the "Kendrick is the goat, he's losing money to help out reactiors" angle. I mean, he _is_ the goat, and it's cool that he did that, but that's bordering on glazing.
@VulpesHilarianus
@VulpesHilarianus 23 күн бұрын
And that probably made his label go apoplectic considering all the attention. But he really *really* wants Drake out of the industry. One of the constant throughlines during all of this has been how everyone hates Drake trying to grab as much from as many places as possible without giving back. Throwing 6:16 In LA out there and then saying "no claims" is Kendrick showing flat out he''s the opposite.
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 23 күн бұрын
So should we all 😂
@milkteamachine
@milkteamachine 23 күн бұрын
I bet J Cole fluffs his pillow every morning and jumps out of bed with pure joy knowing that he avoided getting caught under the wheels of this beef lol
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 22 күн бұрын
He got that "Tiffany Trump Dodged that Mess" vibe.
@magicrainbowkitties1023
@magicrainbowkitties1023 12 күн бұрын
My favorite part is some guy found him a day or two after Not Like Us dropped and Cole was, in fact, just chillin on the beach, not a care in the world. Unbothered, flourishing.
@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat
@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat 11 күн бұрын
​@magicrainbowkitties1023 Good for him. He knew when to bow out, and still keep his integrity and respect with everyone.
@TheKuugaThatSmiles1
@TheKuugaThatSmiles1 Күн бұрын
Have you heard that Houdini song Eminem made?
@SeanStrife
@SeanStrife 27 минут бұрын
Legit, the J Cole memes might be the 2nd best thing to come out of this after Kendrick's tracks. I wonder if J Cole's seen them and has gotten some laughs out of it...
@finn4786
@finn4786 23 күн бұрын
You absolutely have a major point about how ugly this has all gotten, but Drake's line about Kendrick only caring about SA/CSA because he himself was a child victim (which isn't even what happened, per his last album) is just disgusting and morally indefensible. Everything else is a hypothetical, but Drake chose to let those words leave his mouth, and be etched into eternity online.
@austinthesan-antonian3932
@austinthesan-antonian3932 23 күн бұрын
Well it IS rap beef and it is technically fine to have that bar in there. It IS just bars over beats. But I think the point is that Drake was straight up unlikeable there and it felt like somebody just straight up said that shit to you, as opposed to Kendrick having a narrative around everything which has always been focused to take down Drake or Aubrey on as many levels as he can and for what we mostly KNOW is understable reasons beyond the additional deadbeat and pedophilia sex ring elements as those don't have full backing, at least at the moment. But even those allegations fit SMOOTHLY into MTG and NLU. When Drake does it, yeah... it just sounds straight up mean and incongruent. It feels disgusting and not how MTG gives you disgust as an art piece. DRAKE feels disgusting when he says that.
@peanutbutter6720
@peanutbutter6720 23 күн бұрын
I think that line is hilarious, for all the reasons Drake doesn’t want it to be. Drake has a whole track where he’s on the defense saying Kendrick is a liar and twists things out of context for his own benefit. Then he proves that he either is all of those things he called Kendrick or he doesn’t have any lyrical literacy at all by missing the entire point of Mother I Sober
@charlottevos4003
@charlottevos4003 22 күн бұрын
the funny thing is that kendrick in Mother I Sober categorically says that he was never assaulted and the themes of the song are generational trauma and generational sexual violence aggainst black ppl, particularly black women. drake did not listen to the song
@elbruces
@elbruces 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's a big unforced error, like punching yourself in the face. One of many on that record. Because only an abuser would think that only victims care about abuse. Which is straight up what he was saying.
@The_Jazziest_Coffee
@The_Jazziest_Coffee 22 күн бұрын
@@austinthesan-antonian3932 diss lyrics can be anything, but in the heart part 6 it felt like such a shitty diss, like it wasn't even a diss and actually was insulting to drake more than anything it's not about showing respect or maturity, it's actually being able to disrespect your opponents in a manner that shows you're better than them by him stooping to that low (and we are ignoring the fact that line about kendrick being SA'd is already factually incorrect when you listen to Mother I Sober) with that poor of execution, it just feels like a jab that hit himself and his fans more than kendrick
@thehopeofeden597
@thehopeofeden597 24 күн бұрын
“He’s not an underdog, and he’s not lovable. He’s a weird asshole and everyone knows it.” Todd just summed up everyone’s Drake disses in 1 sentence…
@Hevvvyyy
@Hevvvyyy 24 күн бұрын
Ws in the schaaat
@rances4418
@rances4418 24 күн бұрын
I mean anything can be broken by its most basic elements. It how and what ass behavior people are calling him for him the makes it different
@MuddyMoleMania
@MuddyMoleMania 24 күн бұрын
He a F.A.N, He a F.A.N, He a F.A.N...
@turtlepope7802
@turtlepope7802 24 күн бұрын
I get that we all want to talk about the tea, but that's not even the most interesting facet of kendrick's approach. You can take out all the grooming/SA/whatever actually criminal allegations and Drake still comes out looking bad. That colonizer stuff, the accent shifts, the womanizing, hiding his kid, befriending young women, how so many former collaborators now hate him for a multitude of slimy behaviour. These are all things we know about Drake with absolute certainty, we just don't talk about it. Kendrick constructed a narrative that pieces every moral failure together and psychoanalyses Drake as a fake, toxic person, more of a brand than a human, a real detriment not just to black culture but to humanity in general, someone who can't even fully claim their own musical achievements beyond "decent rapping and better singing ability". By contrast Drake has Kendrick on...family issues? Being a cuck? Hitting his girl? I guess some hypocrisy with the spotify thing? Being molested (jesus christ drake)? Having a 50/50 split (which is actually an amazing deal in this industry)? And then you look up what evidence there is for any of it and it's already debunked or misconstrued or just made out of thin air. Except Kendrick being short, I'll give him that I guess
@whoopzdayz44
@whoopzdayz44 24 күн бұрын
​@@turtlepope7802THIS. LITERALLY THIS.
@corpseyfest
@corpseyfest 24 күн бұрын
"Trying to strike a chord and its probably A MINOR" is outrageous
@ConvincingPeople
@ConvincingPeople 24 күн бұрын
Seeing video of people going off in the club to that line and the "Certified Lover Boy" line was when I knew that it truly was over.
@christinegovas-robert4378
@christinegovas-robert4378 24 күн бұрын
I choked on my drink at that line.
@ruthlessxo99
@ruthlessxo99 24 күн бұрын
My jaw was on the floor the first time i heard it! I bet that line alone is going to haunt Drake for the rest of his life
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 24 күн бұрын
it's gold.
@dww7094
@dww7094 24 күн бұрын
​​@@ConvincingPeopleexactly you got people bumping to pedo bars?! It's truly finished for you.
@kylem.9525
@kylem.9525 23 күн бұрын
The pedophile and deadbeat father accusations are really just the cherry on top for Kendrick, it's clear from Euphoria and Meet the Grahams that at the core of it, Kendrick just fundamentally hates Drake for what he views as a lack of respect for his own people and art form. From how eerily precise and calculated every one of Kendrick's moves have been, it's clear he's just been waiting to finally explode about how much he utterly despises that Drake is considered to be at the forefront of hip hop, yet is completely out of touch from the culture of it in a swift, brutal takedown.
@austinthesan-antonian3932
@austinthesan-antonian3932 23 күн бұрын
As for that, we actually KNOW that Kendrick spoke truth, spoke facts, absolutely decimated Aubrey on an INSANELY cathartic level. Important note: when Drake has tried to go after Kendrick's position among his own people and the art form, he has fumbled tremendously (thus how we got the incredible history verse in NLU).
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 23 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I find suspicious. Why would be be more upset about that than the actual horrible things? There are only two reasons I can think of: Kendrick is a bad person who thinks those other things actually are worse, or that he's far less sure about those other things. I actually was tempted to turn this video off after finding out Kendrick apparently had admitted that he didn't have a good reason to hate Drake. I find it telling that it took that long to get to the actual bad stuff.
@austinthesan-antonian3932
@austinthesan-antonian3932 22 күн бұрын
@@ZipplyZane Wait. Where did Kendrick say that?
@CGMedia2023
@CGMedia2023 22 күн бұрын
too bad kendrick sucks at rap.
@gnocchidokey
@gnocchidokey 22 күн бұрын
@@CGMedia2023 trying to start a new beef in the comments section lmao
@arielb4980
@arielb4980 22 күн бұрын
Drake making fun of Kendrick for being on Bad Blood is even funnier when you remember that Apple commercial in 2016 where Drake dances around like an idiot to Bad Blood in the gym for a solid minute before failing to lift weights. Like, at least Kendrick gets song royalties.
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 20 күн бұрын
Lmao what a joke!
@RokoNovakGlazba
@RokoNovakGlazba 12 күн бұрын
Also that on the same album that First Person Shooter was on that he mention Taylor Swift in a positive light
@arielb4980
@arielb4980 11 күн бұрын
softest in the game, truly.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 3 күн бұрын
@@RokoNovakGlazba that’s the worst crime here, honestly
@rosemulet
@rosemulet 24 күн бұрын
Todd releasing a topical video while it’s still relevant?! It’s a miracle!!
@SuperHothead14
@SuperHothead14 24 күн бұрын
I wanna know how he got it to be 20 minutes
@chrishulse3381
@chrishulse3381 24 күн бұрын
Fr. People who are new better not get used to it
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy 24 күн бұрын
​@@chrishulse3381I fully expect Todd to disappear from KZfaq for several months after this. Hopefully he'll make long Tweets about his dog, the best thing anyone does on Twitter.
@ruthlessxo99
@ruthlessxo99 24 күн бұрын
I didn't expect him to make a video about it so fast tbh. Miracle indeed lol
@Infodumptruck
@Infodumptruck 24 күн бұрын
Proud of him
@finnegandonahue2988
@finnegandonahue2988 24 күн бұрын
'Drake is owned by Kendrick Lamar This video is owned by me' Todd in the Shadows, 2024
@samtinkle9076
@samtinkle9076 24 күн бұрын
Wow you didn't make that up💀
@Tsuchiryu
@Tsuchiryu 24 күн бұрын
I legit laughed hard at that bit.
@JonathanLedbetter
@JonathanLedbetter 24 күн бұрын
That was the best part of the feud for me.
@nicktallfox5266
@nicktallfox5266 24 күн бұрын
I'm both mad that you spoiled it and glad that you pointed it out cause I could have missed the best joke in the vid without you.
@MooImABunny
@MooImABunny 23 күн бұрын
lollll didn't notice that. thank you
@hardlo7146
@hardlo7146 24 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention that the reason Pusha outed Drake as a deadbeat father and revealed his son is that Drake mentioned Pusha T' fiancee. Drake was the first to involve the families in both Pusha and Kendrick's beefs.
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 23 күн бұрын
💯
@austinthesan-antonian3932
@austinthesan-antonian3932 23 күн бұрын
Drake had the first family based line in Push Ups.
@thisduckisgoingtokillme
@thisduckisgoingtokillme 21 күн бұрын
The first person he'll bring up to diss the target is their girl. Bro is mentally 16 it's always about a girl with drake.
@heromedley
@heromedley 20 күн бұрын
drakea a gold medalist of the instigation category of the hood olympics
@itscebby8882
@itscebby8882 19 күн бұрын
Drake is the king of making subliminal shots at another artist one second then doing a full 180 dick riding them the next. Dude's trying so hard these days to act like a pittie when in reality he's a kitty.
@killergrooves2438
@killergrooves2438 23 күн бұрын
LMAO J Cole dissing Kendrick and immediately apologizing is the most J Cole thing ever. I went to high school with Cole. My friends were friends with him. They were on the basketball team with him. Nobody ever had a bad word to say about him. He was one of the nicest dudes in the whole school.
@solcrac9445
@solcrac9445 23 күн бұрын
Jermaine out here being more stereotypically canadian than Aubrey is
@Soosss
@Soosss 23 күн бұрын
I’m guessing someone told him how serious this was gonna get and he bowed out, bro probably thought it was gonna be a friendly battle. He made the right and smart move to just leave and not get involved
@cfredrics
@cfredrics 23 күн бұрын
I genuinely think J. Cole is too nice to be a battle rapper.
@PivotStryker
@PivotStryker 23 күн бұрын
@@Soosss Saw some rumors saying Schoolboy Q actually took him aside and told him to step out ☠
@Lacewise
@Lacewise 23 күн бұрын
@@Soossstbf Lamar told Drake to keep it friendly. Then he didn’t. Now we’re here. J Cole was still right to step away instead of getting stuck even appearing to side with Drake.
@greenhowie
@greenhowie 24 күн бұрын
Never mind Anthony Fantano, this is the real sign that this beef is serious.
@zdoggzero6595
@zdoggzero6595 24 күн бұрын
Much like this situation overall, Todd responded because he wanted to, Fantano kinda has to
@Ramonatho
@Ramonatho 24 күн бұрын
Hearing "getting into Instagram fights" than immediately seeing fantano was a level of humor I'm not sure most people will get.
@alwaysxnever
@alwaysxnever 24 күн бұрын
Exactly. ​@@zdoggzero6595
@araline2905
@araline2905 24 күн бұрын
Drake's going to send another salty DM to Fantano soon for choosing Kendrick as the winner of this beef. Edit: I'd bring up the vegan cookie incident with Fantano if I were writing a diss track against Drake. But I'm just terminally online.
@Hakajin
@Hakajin 24 күн бұрын
@@Ramonatho I especially liked the part where he said, "I'm feeling a light to decent 1 on your existence." Like clearly he's invested time into watching Fantano's videos.
@martymcflown3707
@martymcflown3707 24 күн бұрын
Drake saying "I'd never look twice at no teenager" while a video of him kissing and sexualizing a 17 year old girl at a concert was trending was certainly a choice.
@captainpercy4369
@captainpercy4369 24 күн бұрын
I believe Brad Taste in Music had a good point on that when he pointed out he wouldn't look TWICE. Implying that he will look once though, but not twice lol.
@Nonesuch03
@Nonesuch03 24 күн бұрын
​@@captainpercy4369Brad army😀
@tehKap0w
@tehKap0w 24 күн бұрын
@@captainpercy4369 maybe three or more times? lol
@martymcflown3707
@martymcflown3707 23 күн бұрын
@@captainpercy4369 Drake logic like "I closed my eyes while kissing the teenager so I didn't LOOK at her. Checkmate."
@martymcflown3707
@martymcflown3707 23 күн бұрын
@@Cooe. She told him her age because he asked directly and then said something akin to "oh no I don't want to get in trouble" before kissing her and commenting on her breasts.
@chappytts5977
@chappytts5977 24 күн бұрын
Drake’s line about being too famous to be a predator is so disgustingly flippant to me, considering everyone with even half a brain cell knows that famous people have been consistently exposed as some of the most insidious predators due to their power, connections, ability to pay people off, fans to defend them etc. I’m not saying Drake is a predator, honestly as a woman and a CSA survivor he does give me certain icky vibes, but Todd is absolutely right that we can’t make that serious of an accusation off vibes alone. But at the very least, that line is astoundingly arrogant, ignorant, demeaning and invalidating towards the countless victims of famous predators. And that’s enough for me to be completely turned off him and his music forever tbh.
@sparksparkle
@sparksparkle 20 күн бұрын
He didn't say he was too famous to be a predator tbh, he said he was too famous to get caught.
@arsonvamp
@arsonvamp 15 күн бұрын
@@sparksparklehe said he can’t be a predator *because* he’s famous and would’ve been arrested. which is fucking stupid lmao.
@sinnerssandwich4140
@sinnerssandwich4140 23 күн бұрын
The best little part of Meet the Grahams is that its played in A Minor, a key without any black keys 👀👀👀👀 The man earned his Pulitzer, thats all I'm saying
@kaamn1829
@kaamn1829 20 күн бұрын
omfg no way??? lmao
@andybyrd4107
@andybyrd4107 19 күн бұрын
The minor equivalent of C. Good call. Here I was thinking Drake just literally wrote a lot of songs in A Minor.
@cinderellaskeleton6720
@cinderellaskeleton6720 14 күн бұрын
And its a minor, like a minor
@sam3851
@sam3851 24 күн бұрын
This is the first rap feud in decades that's gotten big and serious enough that I had to explain it to my 50 y/o parents. It's so dire
@Nortarachanges
@Nortarachanges 24 күн бұрын
I had to explain to my 70 yr old relatives why Drake isn’t “a poor little guy.” Weird Wednesday
@kathleenmorrison2908
@kathleenmorrison2908 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely looking forward to this coming up in my mother's crossword clues. I've already been forced to teach her what an eboy is.
@lisahoshowsky4251
@lisahoshowsky4251 24 күн бұрын
⁠@@kathleenmorrison2908omg, not the crosswords😂 I worked on the NY Times crossword for the first time in awhile and was a little taken aback at some of the “pop” culture reference clues, I didn’t even think about what that must be like to encounter if you’re not familiar😅😅
@xosrakateox
@xosrakateox 24 күн бұрын
Telling my dad the Wheelchair Jimmy lore has been interesting 🤣
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 24 күн бұрын
This is pathetic asf bro get off the internet and walk around outside maybe try talking to women
@hrdnmltr
@hrdnmltr 24 күн бұрын
"some shit just cringeworthy, it ain't even gotta be deep i guess" absolutely murderous bar
@skep2923
@skep2923 24 күн бұрын
That bar makes the song for me. Really signals this isn’t about who’s better, this is about hate.
@zucchinigreen
@zucchinigreen 23 күн бұрын
"You can't imitate this violence" is a line that also made my day
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 23 күн бұрын
It has the energy of my dad telling a racist coworker one time, "I'm not upset by what you say because you're boring. I forget you said it half the time." and then continuing to get the dude's name wrong by replacing it with other generic white first names for the next half a decade.
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 23 күн бұрын
@@morganqorishchi8181haaaaaaa I love your dad 👏🏾
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 23 күн бұрын
Eh, kinda lazy
@128pm8
@128pm8 24 күн бұрын
I've seen Todd saying how he's tired of life & how he has no confidence in himself in so many videos & it makes me concerned a little. You matter, Todd. Do whatever is best for you creatively, but please don't give up. We care about you, man.
@funde19
@funde19 22 күн бұрын
Literally my second video I've ever watched by you, Todd. So I'm very new here, but I just wanted to second the "you matter" energy. I don't know you, but I hope you're okay.
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 20 күн бұрын
What a nice thing to say!
@TheInfernalOnionz
@TheInfernalOnionz 15 күн бұрын
Tbh I'd still watch Todd if he branched out into movie commentary.
@awookieandagerman
@awookieandagerman 14 күн бұрын
Remember Todd, you can never be replaced.
@cosmonautikal536
@cosmonautikal536 12 күн бұрын
But also love to see Todd do other content (if he wants to stick to videos, of course). The bus ranking list is still my favourite video
@grahamkristensen9301
@grahamkristensen9301 23 күн бұрын
Kendrick is a Pulitzer prize winner who does prison workouts in his driveway while listening to 70's R&B. That's someone who don't want to fuck with on any kind of level. Drake didn't poke a bear, he woke up a sleeping dragon.
@seanmcloughlin5983
@seanmcloughlin5983 19 күн бұрын
“I fear we have woken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible purpose,” -Admiral J Cole to Emperor Drake
@seamusthatsthedog4819
@seamusthatsthedog4819 15 күн бұрын
Kendrick straight up asked God for forgiveness before taking shots at Drake in 6:16 why would you wanna mess with someone like that bruh 💀
@ECKohns
@ECKohns 10 күн бұрын
And by contrast Drake is a former child actor.
@cherries_and_wine
@cherries_and_wine 24 күн бұрын
Nah Megan's diss was directed at Drake and the rest of the industry, Nicky just volunteered to be the target and took all attention
@howdypardner6278
@howdypardner6278 24 күн бұрын
imagine telling on yourself so bad that other people get away with it
@sand_sand7304
@sand_sand7304 24 күн бұрын
Literately a sacrifice
@biomistflorist658
@biomistflorist658 24 күн бұрын
lol imagine Meghan is waiting for Drakes response, but is surprised that Nicki is foaming at the mouth! “Lady I wasn’t talking about YOU”. Nah I think she was talking about Nicki with Meghan’s law imo
@maitele
@maitele 24 күн бұрын
​@@biomistflorist658Meghan tapping her foot, crossing her arms, frowning, checking her watch, sighing
@DeRoche022
@DeRoche022 24 күн бұрын
Exactly. Nicki was just the hit dog that hollered.
@c.rhodes6420
@c.rhodes6420 24 күн бұрын
Megan didn’t just diss nicki. She actually dissed drake before kendrick Drake had made references to Megan lying about being shot so Megan responded “hatin on BBLs but be walking around w the same scars” “Cosplay gangsters, fake ass accents” both these lines are about drake and they’re bringing up a lot of things kendrick bringing up like drakes surgery and his culture vulture tendancies
@pickles224
@pickles224 24 күн бұрын
Well isn’t that song just a compilation of disses made to all other rappers who’ve taken shots at Megan? The Nicki one was the one that hit the hardest and that people started talking about, so no one noticed all the others, especially after Nicki fired back.
@Thobeian
@Thobeian 24 күн бұрын
​@pickles224 I don't think Meghan even name checked Nicki, she just took offense on behalf of all the maligned sex offenders in her life.
@GreenGretel
@GreenGretel 23 күн бұрын
You left out the funniest part: “Cosplay gangsters, fake ass accents // *Posted in another nigga hood like a bad bitch"* I think that gave Kendrick Lamar the idea for his line about Drake seeing two 'bad bitches' when he looks at himself next to Sexyy Red 🤣🤣
@SarahSyna
@SarahSyna 23 күн бұрын
@@pickles224 I'm not not even sure that the Megan's Law line IS aimed at Nicki, I think that might actually be another Drake diss.
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 23 күн бұрын
Plus Tory Lanez is his boy. It was glorious the way Meg annihilated Aubrey. Then took Nikki on with a single line like an assassin.
@KeegoTheWise
@KeegoTheWise 23 күн бұрын
ok, but you have to admit the bbl drizzy beat becoming a meme so widespread and global that we got crowdsourced drake disses that include japanese rappers, traditional indian dancers, masego playing saxophone, and ployphia’s tim henson playing guitar is one of the most unexpectedly funny things to come out of a rap beef
@VerbenaComfrey
@VerbenaComfrey 23 күн бұрын
Hey, for the olds, is there a name or hashtag to search by to find these?
@KeegoTheWise
@KeegoTheWise 22 күн бұрын
@@VerbenaComfrey bbl drizzy is the name of the beat/meme. searching that should get you on the right path
@chuckbatmangaming
@chuckbatmangaming 22 күн бұрын
Im surprised Todd didn't mention BBL Drizzy at all. Definitely the most fun part of all this
@alanmonteros6432
@alanmonteros6432 21 күн бұрын
He brought the foreign legion lmao
@Tenerens1s
@Tenerens1s 20 күн бұрын
this gotta be the first rap beef with audience participation lmao
@bobnye9773
@bobnye9773 23 күн бұрын
Let's be clear: megan called out a lot of people but she did NOT call out Nicki by name. Nicki Minaj bit the bait and got mad when she didn't have to say a worrrrrd
@KilljoyRPMX
@KilljoyRPMX 24 күн бұрын
Drake: *drops the heart part 6* Kendrick: "I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves"
@SolidxArity
@SolidxArity 24 күн бұрын
Everybody's suicidal they ain't even need my help! 🫶
@potayto_potahto732
@potayto_potahto732 24 күн бұрын
i dont really get it, i felt like that was really solid even tho it was defensive
@roddorfj
@roddorfj 24 күн бұрын
@@potayto_potahto732 "I'm too famous to be a pedo" is not solid
@KilljoyRPMX
@KilljoyRPMX 24 күн бұрын
@@potayto_potahto732 he basically hit the self destruct button with the millie bobby brown line, he shoulda just stayed quiet and took the L
@jay2thaudy
@jay2thaudy 24 күн бұрын
​@@potayto_potahto732 most turds are solid.
@Venom_IX
@Venom_IX 24 күн бұрын
Kendrick isn't out there slapping women on a stage, but Drake is out there kissing 17-year olds on a stage. There aren't any women saying in interviews how Kendrick is beating them, but there are interviews with 14-year old Millie and 17-year old Billie Eilish saying Drake texts them ("about boys", in Millie's words). Drake is an avid supporter of high school girl's basketball. Even if it's just smoke and nothing else, it's fucking weird and when you put it all together, it forms a pattern that's been going on for a long while. Even if neither provide any proof, Kendrick is absolutely the more credible one right now because Drake just always looked suspect.
@ranbummerz729
@ranbummerz729 24 күн бұрын
Also, Drake's response was basically "no u", "haha you were mol3stēd", and "I'm too famous to be a p3dô" as if that isn't a PROTECTIVE factor for the child-abusing elite. I hope it's not true but it aint a good look rn for him
@chappytts5977
@chappytts5977 24 күн бұрын
Drake’s whole “whiny emotionally unavailable player who’s been hurt and misunderstood and just wants to find a ~real~ girl who he can settle down with” gimmick is smoke too tbh. That kind of game doesn’t often work on grown women. We tend to see it as manipulative and pathetic. Y’know who it does work on? Teenagers.
@Venom_IX
@Venom_IX 24 күн бұрын
@@ranbummerz729 Diddy stituation JUST blew up like a month ago and he still went with this angle. Not to mention Epstein, R Kelly and all the other shit. Absoutely baffling to me that no one told him this is a terrible move.
@kylegonewild
@kylegonewild 24 күн бұрын
@@Venom_IX Epstein was flying around doing this shit with some of the most powerful people *on the planet* for decades and Drake was stupid enough to act like wealth and fame and power don't insulate you from the consequences of your actions while name dropping Epstein in his own bars.
@arexyouxepicxenough
@arexyouxepicxenough 23 күн бұрын
@@ranbummerz729 The molested line also makes no sense since the Kendrick song he's referencing the whole point of the song is that he WASN'T molested. So not only did he make a diss to make a dig at someone being molested, he missed the shot.
@cocogoat1111
@cocogoat1111 23 күн бұрын
"You can't have such an obvious weak point like being Canadian" LMAO
@Staenhus
@Staenhus 23 күн бұрын
So, I'm not at all into the music scene, so I had to look up these songs for the context. What got me is that Kendrick in 'Euphoria' straight up warned Drake not to go after his family or to make things more serious than they were. Basically "we're doing a nice thing, don't go there or you'll regret it". Then I guess he waited with his finger on the trigger? It's pretty remarkable, a movie moment made real.
@youtubename7819
@youtubename7819 22 күн бұрын
Yeah it really feels like he wrote most of Meet The Grahams years ago and has had it locked in a drawer just in case ever since.
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 20 күн бұрын
You know, I'm not someone who feuds much with anyone, but if I *were* in a feud, I feel like it's just morally incorrect to bring someone's family into it. If I'm mad at someone, I'm not mad at their family. Those people are uninvolved. They shouldn't be catching strays. So I absolutely understand Kendrick firing off at Drake as hard as he did. Movies have characters snap at people who hurt their family for a reason, and that reason is because it's unacceptable.
@magicrainbowkitties1023
@magicrainbowkitties1023 16 күн бұрын
​@@youtubename7819 pulling that shit out the drawer like Ol' Reliable
@chiru-lala7372
@chiru-lala7372 3 күн бұрын
it feels like the last parts of The Godfather 1 where the previously-chill Michael came down hard on the other mafia guys because they went after his family first and Michael responded with, well...guess
@dexscout
@dexscout 24 күн бұрын
To be honest: "A Minoooooooor" is my best two seconds of the year
@SeanStrife
@SeanStrife 24 күн бұрын
"Certified Loverboy, Certified Pedophile" comes close, too.
@rubberwoody
@rubberwoody 24 күн бұрын
Mine is "F.A.N. he a 69 god. Run run run run for your life"
@mandalorian_guy
@mandalorian_guy 24 күн бұрын
"Certified Loverboy, Certified Pedophile" is my favorite so far.
@kumajin3621
@kumajin3621 24 күн бұрын
The Dmx hate reference been lingering for days
@Aniyasimone___
@Aniyasimone___ 24 күн бұрын
Head shot for the year you better walk around like daft punk has been replaying in my mind
@magicmicah05
@magicmicah05 24 күн бұрын
Once Kendrick released Meet The Grahams, the winner was already decided. Like, there is NO coming back from that WHATSOEVER. That is genuinely one of the most scathing and outright BRUTAL diss tracks ever conceived.
@hardy_har
@hardy_har 24 күн бұрын
Buh- but didn't you hear The Heart Part 6? Drake said it wasn't true... and... had no proof... and... Oh God I have to sell my Drake stocks.
@chriiiiis
@chriiiiis 24 күн бұрын
​@@hardy_har he also said his son wasn't his soooooo
@philly_sports1558
@philly_sports1558 24 күн бұрын
Everyone I’ve ever seen listen to that song for the first time has their eyes bugging out of their skull and their mouth wide open. Just absolutely shocked and in disbelief. It may be the first diss track I’ve ever heard that’s basically a horrorcore song.
@paradise2pink
@paradise2pink 24 күн бұрын
And the fact that the whole world heard it and had commented on it.
@paradise2pink
@paradise2pink 24 күн бұрын
@@philly_sports1558 the song genuinely sounds like a curse set to a song. Absolutely terrifying.
@TheGhostofAbigailMills
@TheGhostofAbigailMills 17 күн бұрын
Lot of new people in the comments confused. Calling Todd a Drake supporter or fan is way off base. Todd has been on Drake's neck for almost a decade now. He gives credit where its due, but he's never ignored the icky things about Drake. Even in this video alone: if you think Todd is a Drake apologist, you didn't watch the video.
@shinyskunk
@shinyskunk 23 күн бұрын
This video has made me realize your biggest skill as a critic, especially compared to other critics on KZfaq: it's putting a musician and their song or body of work into their context to help you see the bigger whole of it. If that takes a little longer than your average reaction video, it's beyond worth it.
@chuckbatmangaming
@chuckbatmangaming 22 күн бұрын
Yeah somehow despite seeing this beef everywhere Todd explained it in such a way that I made new connections I hadn't before. The wider context is always important and he's so good at giving it rather than just assuming we know it all
@Squirrelrides
@Squirrelrides 21 күн бұрын
I really hope Todd sees your comment and realizes how much we appreciate his input, it's OK if it takes a little longer ❤
@Dreigonix
@Dreigonix 24 күн бұрын
>“I don’t KNOW if Drake’s a child trafficker…” >plays Thank Heaven For Little Girls over the ending I see ya, Todd. XD
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 24 күн бұрын
what people are missing is that drake is either pwedator or a complete 'tard. who messages with 14 year girls about boys? is his posse so boring he can't talk about boy crushes with them?
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 24 күн бұрын
I know! My jaw actually dropped at the cheekiness.
@emergencylisl6518
@emergencylisl6518 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, I was doing my makeup and watching this, then Thank Heaven for Little Girls starts and I scare my dog yelling, "Oh shit!"
@dorianhinkle5595
@dorianhinkle5595 24 күн бұрын
Just, lmao Todd's really funny
@wfbgenius
@wfbgenius 23 күн бұрын
Seriously, I nearly choked on my own tongue when the credit music started playing.
@christiandecoster6132
@christiandecoster6132 24 күн бұрын
Drake: Your feet are small, you're too busy listening to Taylor Swift to respond to my sick diss. Kendrick: Here's the new diss track, I call it "The names of every minor that Drake has been seen standing too close to, listed in alphabetical order."
@paradise2pink
@paradise2pink 24 күн бұрын
"And highlighted incase you miss any names"
@GamerTowerDX
@GamerTowerDX 24 күн бұрын
"And I switch the beat at the 4 minute mark with the IP address of Drake"
@Kris-wo4pj
@Kris-wo4pj 24 күн бұрын
And every minor he slides into the dms off.
@c.rhodes6420
@c.rhodes6420 24 күн бұрын
I’m seeing this take a lot lately… he brought up kendrick beating his wife and his manager having a baby with that wife. That’s not nothing lol
@christiandecoster6132
@christiandecoster6132 24 күн бұрын
@@c.rhodes6420 You're not wrong, but Drake's disses are a lot less venomous when taken on the whole. It's a couple hard hitters like that surrounded by like thirty playground insults. Kendrick is going for the throat with each verse.
@MannyBiggz
@MannyBiggz 23 күн бұрын
One key thing that Todd missed is that this goes back muuuuuch further than a lot of people realize. This basically goes back to Kendricks infamous verse on Control back in 2014. Ever since then Drake has been very passive aggressive in dropping subliminal shots several times at Kendrick while sometimes praising Kendrick publicly in interviews. Kendrick on the other on mostly only did response bars to Drake's subliminal shots, but never really talked about Drake otherwise. It really always felt like one of them (mainly Kendrick) was looking for a reason to more directly kick off the beef, and it took them a decade to get here.
@The_Jazziest_Coffee
@The_Jazziest_Coffee 22 күн бұрын
to be fair i think he's looking at this on a very simple and more recent tone, there's plenty of analysis videos detailing the actual feud history between the two
@Saintnick90
@Saintnick90 23 күн бұрын
It took a Drake and Kendrick feud to get Todd to stop talking about current country music after a year.
@racheltalley4364
@racheltalley4364 24 күн бұрын
Todd would rather cover an active beef then review a single Taylor song and deal with Swifties. I don't blame him.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 24 күн бұрын
Probably because, oddly enough, Taylor's actual music at this point is the least interesting thing about her. Like, I can't imagine what he could possibly say in a video about "Fortnight". It's a pretty nothing of a song.
@weirdguy1495
@weirdguy1495 24 күн бұрын
To be fair, this has overshadowed Taylor's songs by a lot.
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku 24 күн бұрын
@@RyanStorey1231 Yeah, there’s a reason why after being the internet’s punching bag for a few days for some of the bad/cringeworthy lyrics, online discussion about that new Taylor Swift album just kinda stopped, which is that it’s ultimately just a fairly boring album. I’m sure it’s still been a success since it did have that big drop and Swifties are one of the most insanely devoted fandoms out there, but if you asked me to say what “the big single” from TTPD was for Todd to do a review on, I wouldn’t know which song to name, tbh.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 24 күн бұрын
It doesn't sound like Taylor put it out to have any big pop singles. I think she just put it out because she had a lot to say, and now it's out there and she's moving on. I don't even think she's going to release any followup singles or music videos. The fact that she dropped this while she's still on her biggest tour says it all. They probably chose "Fortnight" as the single because it's the only song on the album that sounds like it could be a big hit. Though, "My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys" is right there begging to be the next Cruel Summer, so I don't know what she was thinking. She probably thought the novelty of duetting with Post Malone was enough to send the song over the edge.
@OG_McLovin
@OG_McLovin 24 күн бұрын
Not Todd's fault the new album's trash. It's better than Ambien.
@Advent3546
@Advent3546 24 күн бұрын
I would have gone into witness protection if Meet the Grahams was about me
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 24 күн бұрын
That's the thing though: imagine living a life where someone _can_ write a song about you like that, where it doesn't make the songwriter look totally baby reindeer crazy. Maybe Drake really does need that ayuhuasca experience.
@Isaiah-FA3
@Isaiah-FA3 24 күн бұрын
Defenitely a top 5 diss Track of all time, even if the daughter accusation isn’t true, the way he he digs in too all the bad shit Drake has done in his life and make him seem like such a dark/twisted person is next level songwriting, man had me contemplating all the sins I have done.
@AtillaTheSean
@AtillaTheSean 23 күн бұрын
I would destroy anything my parents could use to reach the internet. Phones, laptops, TV's, other people's phones, computers at the public library, etc.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 3 күн бұрын
@@Isaiah-FA3 I’ve seen comments like “this scared me into being a better father for my kids… I don’t even have kids” because of this.
@AbiAdekoya
@AbiAdekoya 23 күн бұрын
“These things usually end up with people dying”… or in the hospital… at this point. Hope the guard makes it. For those who don’t know there was a drive by at Drake’s place and one of the security guards is in the hospital.
@MarmaladeMagnolia
@MarmaladeMagnolia 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, scary shit man…
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 22 күн бұрын
Man...as an Old, nothing was worth losing Biggie & 2pac that was such an ugly heartbreaking era. No one wants that again unless they're too young to reason or remember.
@Chimera-man-man
@Chimera-man-man 23 күн бұрын
Honestly the entire thing has just sounded tedious to me, like imagine if Tupac and Vanilla Ice had a fued, its the most hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby situation of the last ten years
@libanscekei8942
@libanscekei8942 21 күн бұрын
Saying drake is equivalent to vanilla ice is just a straight up lie. Drake himself has won many rap beefs, including meek mill who grew up as a battle rapper. Drake himself came out from the battle rap scene and was so good that lil Wayne took him on board even though he wasn't even American. The only people who say this are people who are genuinely clueless about drake and hip hop in general and think all drakes catalogue consists of is one dance and hotline bling 200 times....
@jade-fm4no
@jade-fm4no 19 күн бұрын
@@libanscekei8942 Many and than names one...lol
@rebellyanmagic6409
@rebellyanmagic6409 24 күн бұрын
'HISS' was actually about Drake too! There are other verses where she talks about his BBL surgeries and culture vulture tendencies, but because Nicki Garbaj overreacted to one line, everyone assumed Megan was dissing her. Also I knew the feud had gotten overkill when Shawn fucking Michaels invited the two to NXT because Kendrick dropped a shout out to 'Sweet Chin Music' in 'Not Like Us'
@polarfoxgirl
@polarfoxgirl 24 күн бұрын
Some people are even speculating that Nicki's overreaction was a strategic one (she and Drake are on the same label IIRC).
@ruthlessxo99
@ruthlessxo99 24 күн бұрын
I initially thought the Megan's law line was directed at Nicki but after this feud it does sound like it's about Drake! Meg killed two birds with one stone just with that line alone
@Kris-wo4pj
@Kris-wo4pj 24 күн бұрын
Its why people are speculating no one cares megan called him oit cuz shes a woman but everyone cares about kendrick cuz hes a dude.
@lemontreeleaf
@lemontreeleaf 24 күн бұрын
oh please. that line was 100% about nicki. let's not rewrite history to pretend that megan is a real player in this
@darshon98
@darshon98 24 күн бұрын
@@lemontreeleafWhile the line applies to Nikki the most, it could definitely apply to Drake and other rappers accused of statutory and other abuses. In the same song Megan accuses male rappers of hating on BBLs while having the “same scars”. Who’s currently being made fun of for this? That’s right, BBL Drizzy.
@moviesquad73
@moviesquad73 24 күн бұрын
There was a fake Kendrick line that was floating around online that went "Carly Rae Jepsen is the only Canadian that matters" and you have no idea how much I wish that was a real line
@Ranney165
@Ranney165 14 күн бұрын
But even he has to admit that there was music
@RavynSkye617
@RavynSkye617 20 күн бұрын
Hello from Toronto, Canada. In the last week, Drake's house has been broken into 3 times and his security guard was shot and taken to hospital. The beef is far from over.
@sarahbee6758
@sarahbee6758 23 күн бұрын
The “beef: it’s what’s for dinner” visual gag is underrated
@markhalm9889
@markhalm9889 24 күн бұрын
12:50 Important thing to Note is Drake brought up both Pusha T's and Kendrick's wife in the beef first, which basically gave his oppontents permission to take it there.
@Louis-ty6li
@Louis-ty6li 24 күн бұрын
and drake was warned not to go for Kendrick's family in 6:16 in LA. IMO he dug his own grave.
@alexk8083
@alexk8083 24 күн бұрын
@@Louis-ty6liKendrick even warned Drake multiple times on Euphoria
@TheDancerMacabre
@TheDancerMacabre 24 күн бұрын
Exactly. In Euphoria and 6:16, Kendrick said he wanted to keep it surface level. In Euphoria he said eff the industry, if Drake wants to make it personal, Kendrick will expose the system.
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 24 күн бұрын
Yeah if you've been following this it's hard to feel sorry for Drake. He didn't feel conflicted about jumping in, he was _desperate_ for this to be his moment this time. He shat on Cole immediately for his response and was threatening the worst right from the beginning.
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 24 күн бұрын
This was why it was so crazy. Because Drake was threatening some sort of reveal right from the beginning. This had like barely one escalation phase before it went Pusha T nuclear on both sides and Drake wanted that. He just didn't realise that not only is he not as good an artist, people just don't really like him much lol
@SconnerStudios
@SconnerStudios 24 күн бұрын
Drake being called a Canadian is the single biggest diss in the entirety of hip-hop. Biggie and Tupac got shot over smaller drama.
@JacobSantosDev
@JacobSantosDev 23 күн бұрын
I wouldn't call fucking a person's mate small, but I don't think of relationships like that.
@JetstreamGW
@JetstreamGW 23 күн бұрын
Question: Why? Being Canadian doesn't seem... bad...?
@happiness1772
@happiness1772 23 күн бұрын
​@@JetstreamGWI think because rap culture isn't really a Canadian thing. It's like Springsteen faking a southern accent despite being from Jersey.
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 23 күн бұрын
We do have some good rappers not just Maestro Fresh West up here. Swollen Members, Classified, Kardinal & Maisia Obe before she went dance hall.
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 23 күн бұрын
@@happiness1772I’d disagree. We have a fairly good rap community from old guard like Maestro Fresh Wes & Kardinal then there’s Classified, K’Naan, Shad, K-os, & Cadence Weapon. Even a few First Nations MCs
@joshelderkin9592
@joshelderkin9592 23 күн бұрын
"I felt like i was watching hereditary" thanks for finally helping me figure out what the feeling reminded me of 😂
@darksaint0124
@darksaint0124 21 күн бұрын
How do people think grooming girls for years and then immediately trying to sleep with them the moment they turn 18 is a lot of smoke? The man said he is a fan of "Women's" High School Basketball, that is all the evidence I need, aside from all the teenagers that it is public record that he tried to sleep with the moment the y turned 18 after knowing them for years.
@agamingdog
@agamingdog 24 күн бұрын
"et tu, future-e" is already an all-time greatest Todd line
@thehopeofeden597
@thehopeofeden597 24 күн бұрын
also “no new friends. no old friends. no friends. please, be my friend.”
@blendernoob64
@blendernoob64 24 күн бұрын
I was saying this rap beef is the music equivalent of the Ides of March since day one
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 24 күн бұрын
Personally “I’d be investing in livestock futures, because BEEF is on the menu” was the one for me.
@daigle1396
@daigle1396 24 күн бұрын
Honestly, regardless of the ugliness behind it, it feels so refreshing to see such a cultural event that EVERYONE seems to pay attention to, overtaking even Taylor's album release, especially after so many thinkpieces about rap being stale since mid-2022
@crafty9795
@crafty9795 24 күн бұрын
I half expected Taylor to involve herself in order to promote TTPD 💀
@mr.perezident9381
@mr.perezident9381 24 күн бұрын
@@crafty9795 Taylor at the eras tour: I hear there’s a really big rap battle going on. Between Kendrick and Drake? Guess you can say they have BAD BLOOD!”
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 24 күн бұрын
@@mr.perezident9381 oh come on have mercy I can hear that in my head like it actually happened
@nicktallfox5266
@nicktallfox5266 24 күн бұрын
​@@mr.perezident9381I just saw a poorly recorded clip of that happening in my head, vividly too goddamn.
@Scorpia161
@Scorpia161 23 күн бұрын
@@crafty9795 technically, her regular producer jack antonof produced one of kendrick's songs so in a round about way she was involved--todd wasn't kidding when he said even producers are apparently sick of drake
@Durrutitv
@Durrutitv 21 күн бұрын
To be fair, Drake's record going in to the beef was 1-2, if you count the time he got bodied by a vegan cookie recipe courtesy of the internet's busiest music nerd.
@TheImperiusv
@TheImperiusv 24 күн бұрын
From what I hear, young hip-hop fans have been treating this like that scene in The Matrix where everyone in the ship hears Morpheus is fighting Neo and they run to check it out.
@RyanStorey1231
@RyanStorey1231 24 күн бұрын
"The elephant in the room - let's talk about it. For years, there have been rumors that Drake... is Canadian!" No joke, I spat out my water. Great bait-and-switch. You'd think I'd expect it by now because Todd does this a lot lol
@willowbarrelmaker8269
@willowbarrelmaker8269 24 күн бұрын
He does it a lot, but somehow he still manages to land it pretty often
@babylovequitoe5715
@babylovequitoe5715 24 күн бұрын
Canadian Americans same people 🙏🏾❤️
@uglyaniimals
@uglyaniimals 23 күн бұрын
RIGHT i had the exact same reaction. todd is a genius
@ceeitrus
@ceeitrus 24 күн бұрын
All the alleged personal stuff aside, the more drake engages in this beef, the more it becomes evident that he can’t write or rap for shit, kendrick proved he wins by a landslide purely on technical skill and creativity alone, and drake releasing the same monotonous shit he would drop on a regular Tuesday, ALSO we need to give Megan thee stallion her credits bc she REALLY set the drake lashings off
@MrGared22
@MrGared22 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, I remember watching videos of a guy who was translating the lyrics of the songs in Spanish, and whenever they had to translate Drake's it always came with a creator pinned comment along the lines of "God, this bores me to sleep."
@katiish
@katiish 23 күн бұрын
what are you smoking bro. drake can’t write or rap for shit? you on meth?
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
Now listen, man, I'm a Kendrick dickrider, but Family Matters is a BANGER, and Drake has several witty and funny bars in the songs he made. Taylor Made Freestyle is a 0/10 because of the AI crap, though.
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 23 күн бұрын
Kendrick’s a Pulitzer Prize winner for a reason ❤
@gustavedore1073
@gustavedore1073 22 күн бұрын
I'm happy you made this video and I agree with everything. This went really fast from "Oh boys are fighting" to "Oh it's family feud episode" to "Maybe therapy? For all of you? This is way above our pay grade"
@MelvinDukowski
@MelvinDukowski 23 күн бұрын
Honestly I think the Hip Hop scene flat hates Drake. They hate that a creepy rich kid from canada has been coasting and getting the biggest numbers. They just are sick of his dominance, his attitude, his weird behavior. When rap was at it lowest point in a while last year things just started to boil so when a basic rap beef started it naturally escalated. The industry decided it needed a major shift of power and that to do that they would have to offer Drake as a sacrifice to the rap gods.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 19 күн бұрын
Surely Drake is far from the only big name predator in rap. Does the culture hate the others as much as Drake, enough to out and diss them? Or is Drake just the one everyone feels ok hating because he’s embarrassing in other ways (the culture vulture stuff is far from trivial to be clear) while they work with abusers in the clear?
@cozmicclockwork1136
@cozmicclockwork1136 24 күн бұрын
Hiss was actually the first Drake diss. Most of the track was directed at Drake. Nicki just read herself into one line of the song and her following insanity just overshadowed all of that.
@LostStarzOfTheSky
@LostStarzOfTheSky 23 күн бұрын
Wonder what lil Wayne is doing
@ayanaalfonso5339
@ayanaalfonso5339 23 күн бұрын
​@@LostStarzOfTheSkymolting probably
@333xz
@333xz 24 күн бұрын
Theres a video of drake kissing 17 year old on stage, then after asking whats her age he kissed her again and said something about her breasts and the way she looked, it is pretty sus to me
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
And then he kissed her again on the forehead
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 19 күн бұрын
And cheeks, and hand
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 23 күн бұрын
Even if there was nothing going on between Drake and Millie... No man his age should be texting a 14 year old.... Sorry but my daughter is about to turn 13... and if I would find out she is texting a grown man it's on sight..
@Staenhus
@Staenhus 22 күн бұрын
Honestly, I think it's more the content than anything. If they were friends casually or if they were working together, then I think it might be fine? Adults can interact with kids without it being creepy, like if MBB wanted to branch out into singing and wanted professional advice or something. Mentorships aren't unheard of in showbiz (though the parents should of course be involved). I don't think anyone would raise any eyebrows if a singing teacher texted a teenager about appointments, answers to their questions etc, y'know? It's less fine when he's giving her "boy advice" and writing "I miss you" when she's 14, within a year of them meeting for the first time. Especially when he's reported to have had a thing with Hailey Bieber, whom he also had known and been "great friends" with since she was 15, from what I could find. And the other 16-17-year olds that he's been creepy around. As Todd said, nothing has been confirmed, but it's an awful lot of smoke. Looking more like Michael Jackson every day, I would say.
@francesthepossum1812
@francesthepossum1812 23 күн бұрын
It’s also privy to note tho that Drake just settled w a woman who was [ALLEGEDLY] SA’d by him for $350k
@judgesaturn507
@judgesaturn507 24 күн бұрын
Going from 2023's pop music scene to 2024 has felt like wandering the desert for months in search of water and then suddenly getting blasted with a firehose
@ryelyndoherty762
@ryelyndoherty762 24 күн бұрын
bro got todd to follow current events 😭
@angiekelley2416
@angiekelley2416 21 күн бұрын
Interesting how Drake is becoming the Nickleback of rap.
@paolocruz7917
@paolocruz7917 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, being both overplayed and Canadian at all
@Diana-mu7pc
@Diana-mu7pc 20 күн бұрын
"No new friends. No old friends. No friends." Gonna be one of my new favorite Toddisms.
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku 24 күн бұрын
It turns out the biggest benefactor from this beef may well be the guy who uploaded “Every Time Todd in the Shadows Bashed Adam Levine (Maroon 5),” who’s almost certainly about to get a bunch of traffic thanks to this video
@yakovhadash
@yakovhadash 23 күн бұрын
no. it's that Chinese restaurant
@vumasster
@vumasster 23 күн бұрын
@@yakovhadash that's further proof that Kendrick won. He enriched Drake's own community amidst the conflict
@onthefence928
@onthefence928 24 күн бұрын
"Drake is owned by Kendrick Lamar - This video is owned by me" is the funniest joke
@doctorduncan
@doctorduncan 15 күн бұрын
#JusticeforBrad
@noone26667
@noone26667 14 күн бұрын
👍🤙👌
@darko1295
@darko1295 6 күн бұрын
?
@harbingerofsalt
@harbingerofsalt 6 күн бұрын
His wife got fired from cracker barrel
@Music34897
@Music34897 21 күн бұрын
Drake being upset that Kendrick gets more love despite doing smaller numbers is like McDonald's claiming they make the best food in the world because a lot of people buy it lol
@Yeah_Nice
@Yeah_Nice 24 күн бұрын
Hard to really call the Drake rumors just "a lot of smoke" when we have the video with the 17-year-old giving us actual concrete evidence of him being creepy with an underage girl.
@CGFillertext
@CGFillertext 24 күн бұрын
I watched the video on Brad’s stream and yeah, it was pretty disgusting.
@MrStrawberryPucca
@MrStrawberryPucca 24 күн бұрын
Thats the one comment i wanted to mention as well. I’m pretty sure ive seen atleast one video of him flirting with (or even kissing?) underage fans at shows when he was in his 20s. No clue about the validity of the Kendrick bit but I guess we’ll see eventually, and either way i feel horrible for his wife
@oserodal2702
@oserodal2702 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, he's a pedophile, but not a kiddie one, rather more like someone that's on page 13 on the Teen tag on those 👀 sites.
@AM_61102
@AM_61102 24 күн бұрын
And that’s probably not even the most damning piece of evidence
@danielle8026
@danielle8026 24 күн бұрын
And there’s much more for sure
@WhatifAltHist
@WhatifAltHist 12 күн бұрын
Todd. Please love yourself. I’ve been watching your channel for a decade. You talk yourself down a lot and there’s no reason to. You deserve to have pride in yourself.
@taptiotrevizo9415
@taptiotrevizo9415 4 күн бұрын
Of literally of the people who would be involved in this sort of matter. You are literally the last person I would expect. Is that you Rudyard?. Didn't know we shared this.
@go-gogodlike6179
@go-gogodlike6179 18 күн бұрын
Rick Ross especially as no seat in this debate. Bro made a song about slipping roofies in women's drinks and assaulting while unconscious.
@bethbyrne2222
@bethbyrne2222 24 күн бұрын
1:57 ‘I root for last place teams’ I was fully expecting a ‘I Bet On Losing Dogs’ joke after that for some reason.
@saintsea-hat7891
@saintsea-hat7891 24 күн бұрын
“It’s like a dog being elected president” sounds like a mitski lyric tbh
@akaihys
@akaihys 23 күн бұрын
it would've been so perfect. but i don't think todd is really into mitski
@ridofchris
@ridofchris 24 күн бұрын
Just wanna note that Megan threw shots at several people in ‘Hiss’, including Drake himself, Nicki was just the one who took the bait and went crazy over it
@LicoriceLain
@LicoriceLain 23 күн бұрын
And helped Megan get a number one hit (and a record deal with a major label) in the process with her awful response making Megan the defacto winner..
@controversialmann5345
@controversialmann5345 15 күн бұрын
@@LicoriceLainNicki still winning sold out a tour. Megan still a bum
@stupendoushorrendous8258
@stupendoushorrendous8258 11 күн бұрын
So weird that the big three in rap are: the most financially successful rap artist, the most critically acclaimed rap artist, and... J. Cole? 😂
@user-er5mg6zj4v
@user-er5mg6zj4v 11 күн бұрын
the most humble rap artist i guess
@stupendoushorrendous8258
@stupendoushorrendous8258 11 күн бұрын
@@user-er5mg6zj4v He does seem likable lol
@mynameissammmm704
@mynameissammmm704 16 күн бұрын
“For years there have been rumors that Drake is Canadian” lmaooooooo
@elrapido5150
@elrapido5150 24 күн бұрын
Referring to Drake as a last place team that you root for sometimes is such a wonderful backhanded compliment.
@tjhunter9787
@tjhunter9787 24 күн бұрын
An addendum: 5:08 Allegedly, Schoolboy Q was the one that told J.Cole to back out which was the smart move.
@TheTakerFoxx
@TheTakerFoxx 24 күн бұрын
J Cole got sent a "Don't go to school tomorrow" text.
@samt3412
@samt3412 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I can see why, since Q probably knew what Kendrick had in the works, and knew Cole had to get out of the line of fire ASAP
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
Allegedly, but I believe it.
@cfredrics
@cfredrics 23 күн бұрын
It's adorable how nobody wanted Cole caught in the crossfire.
@The_Jazziest_Coffee
@The_Jazziest_Coffee 22 күн бұрын
@@cfredrics probably because out of the feud, he makes the least sense to be in it at least him and kendrick have greater relevancy to hip hop and rap than drake ever can, and at least j cole's own label is infinitely more respectable than drake's OVO
@writerspen010
@writerspen010 20 күн бұрын
Todd, are you aware that one of your tweets on the feud made it to CBS Mornings??
@wakkawakkagaming3710
@wakkawakkagaming3710 23 күн бұрын
"Meet the Grahams" is the only song I've ever heard that gave me the same vibes as immortal technique's "dance with the devil."
@moonknight2865
@moonknight2865 22 күн бұрын
You’re right.
@Staenhus
@Staenhus 22 күн бұрын
I thought about "Sinnerman" myself. Not that the songs are similar, but there is the same kind of tension.
@juliagiles1547
@juliagiles1547 21 күн бұрын
well Kendrick did say that he had the evils of Lucy around him…
@jsheeds
@jsheeds 24 күн бұрын
It’s funny cause once Meet the Grahams dropped that was the point for a good bunch of filks where this beef stopped being fun and became uncomfortable and depressing. Meanwhile my friends and I are sitting in the bleachers bouncing up and down in our seats yelling ‘YYYYYYEAH FUCKING KILL HIM KENDRICK’
@YOOT_JJ
@YOOT_JJ 24 күн бұрын
Shit, i’m there with you man
@the_exegete
@the_exegete 24 күн бұрын
That was the point it got interesting for me.
@mb7626
@mb7626 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, like maybe I’m a dark person to rejoice in this but if so I don’t really care. Granted I’m not really publicly contributing to any sort of ‘discourse’ so I don’t have to mediate my responses in anticipation of how this all might look in the future, etc. Whereas Todd kinda does I guess. Not to cast doubt on his sincerity or anything, that’s not my intention, but it’s clearly a different dynamic where really nothing hinges on my capacity to enjoy this lol.
@MayorOfEarth79
@MayorOfEarth79 24 күн бұрын
Todd missed the hilarity and the joy of "BBL Drizzy"
@christinac873
@christinac873 23 күн бұрын
@@MayorOfEarth79omg I just found out about it LMAO this beef just keeps getting better 😂
@Amazatastic
@Amazatastic 24 күн бұрын
Megan thee Stallion's "Hiss" also contains bars that according to some fans are dissing Drake. That song comes for a lot of people and I love it so much
@PrincessZaire100
@PrincessZaire100 24 күн бұрын
I in all honesty think that song was made for drake, but Nicki was a hit dog
@Amazatastic
@Amazatastic 24 күн бұрын
@@PrincessZaire100 I think most of the song is about fans of her ex being all up in her mentions and she's just like lol write him not me 😂 but yeah people act like the whole song is about Nicki it was like two lines max but the bar hit soooo hard
@6li8storm40
@6li8storm40 24 күн бұрын
@@AmazatasticI think the “walls bending” bar was primarily for Nicki, and “Megan’s Law” had multiple targets.
@whotfisliz
@whotfisliz 24 күн бұрын
​@@6li8storm40 which is insane if you think about it, multiple people can relate to that line? man wtf is going on
@AtillaTheSean
@AtillaTheSean 23 күн бұрын
@@Amazatastic Tbf Drake is the biggest name in the camp of Tory supporters and was really the only celeb putting his name on the line for Tory and calling Meg a liar. It's about the fans who echo his bullshit too, but it's mostly about Drake.
@GreenGretel
@GreenGretel 23 күн бұрын
This beef didn't start with that First Person Shooter song, that was just the excuse Kendrick needed to finally come for Drake directly (J.Cole just got caught in the crossfire). The feud has gone all the way back to Kendrick's Control verse and Drake's defensive response to it and then subliminal disses that followed. There's plenty of vids on the topic if you're interested (I think the What's The Dirt one sums it up pretty well; guy really likes Drake, but he's not too biased).
@athelstaneofconingsburgh
@athelstaneofconingsburgh 23 күн бұрын
I too at first thought that dissing J. Cole and Drake over "big three" was an unwarranted overreaction. But if you look back a little, you can see that Kendrick disliked Drake for a while. I think Kendrick wasn't mad at being rated anything below GOAT, I think he was mad at J. Cole for lumping him in with Drake.
@sadboijokes
@sadboijokes 24 күн бұрын
I kind of agree with this take. At first, it was like “yeah! This is fun!” And then Drake dropped Family Matters and it was like “wait…” and then Kendrick dropped meet the grahams and it felt like everything shifted. Like that song had me on edge for days and he wasn’t even talking to me. That shit was wild. But to be fair, Kendrick warned him. He said he had a mole, he said he knew what angles Drake would take and apparently, he knew when he would drop. He told him, don’t make it personal. And then Drake made it personal. Now look at where he is. Got the first dissbeat made about him with everyone rapping over it while the nation learns how to cr*p walk to Kendrick’s song about Drake being a SO.
@PrincessZaire100
@PrincessZaire100 24 күн бұрын
We finna be screaming OVHOEEE all summer long
@sadboijokes
@sadboijokes 24 күн бұрын
@@PrincessZaire100 Exactlyyyyy. Like Drake did that! Drake forgot he is not an actual rapper, got cooked, and now we got a summer bop based on tearing this man and his career down.
@ShiShi429
@ShiShi429 24 күн бұрын
People forget that Megan also came for Drake in "Hiss," and his response was to leak a video of his noodle and post a IG story about wanting Tory Lanez to be freed. Megan's bars are basically being recycled in these beefs because she came for his BBL, cosplaying as a gangster, and posting up like a bad bish in other people's hoods
@kyoungt14
@kyoungt14 24 күн бұрын
“When I see you stand by Sexxy Red, I believe you see two bad bitches.”
@santoriomaker69
@santoriomaker69 24 күн бұрын
WAIT THE VIDEO WAS A RESPONSE TO THAT? I thought that was just a coincidence, but goddamn. Also hell yeah, Megan needs a lot more credit for that. She basically started the plague of diss tracks happening this year.
@LicoriceLain
@LicoriceLain 23 күн бұрын
@@santoriomaker69 And good for her. She is more talented than just a sex rapper.
@GreenGretel
@GreenGretel 23 күн бұрын
@ 11:48 not you bringing up the vegan cookie recipe beef between Fantano and Drake 🤣🤣
@jbran7817
@jbran7817 23 күн бұрын
While it’s true that there’s smoke but no fire in drakes allegations, I think we should be able to infer some things when the smoke is pouring out of every window of the building
@Harley_Mitchelly
@Harley_Mitchelly 23 күн бұрын
While we can, doing that is how the internet sleuths manage to botch an actual professional investigation and let a guy off OJ style. I want the cops to come quash this beef, it's burnt at this point and this is something that just needs a definitive answer.
@philly_sports1558
@philly_sports1558 24 күн бұрын
For years, rap beefs have mainly revolved around stuff like “I’m a better rapper than you, You’re corny and I’m real, I sold more copies than you…” and stuff like that. This is the first beef in a long time where it’s legit personal hatred where lines have been crossed in a major way. And it’s also the two biggest rappers of the past 15 years doing it. Reminds me of how personal and vicious Biggie and 2pac got in the mid 90s which makes me pretty nervous for the future.
@originalscreenname44
@originalscreenname44 24 күн бұрын
It hasn't been that long. Okay, 6 years, but Pusha T shut Drake down because he straight does not like him for whatever reason. You don't air that type of laundry when it's just a contest.
@MelMelodyWerner
@MelMelodyWerner 24 күн бұрын
pfffttt, maybe if you ignore "Hiss"
@exigency2231
@exigency2231 24 күн бұрын
someone's already been shot at drakes house lol
@exigency2231
@exigency2231 24 күн бұрын
@@MelMelodyWerner you're deranged if you think hiss is the same level as this
@SeanStrife
@SeanStrife 24 күн бұрын
I mean... given what happened yesterday with Drake's bodyguard... that's a VERY valid concern.
@SaturnFreak
@SaturnFreak 24 күн бұрын
20:02 "Drake is Owned by Kendrick Lamarr" Bro got one last punch in, not even safe after the video ends 😭😭😭
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 23 күн бұрын
A parting jab as the camera is turned off.
@ChristopherSadlowski
@ChristopherSadlowski 22 күн бұрын
"STOP! HE'S ALREADY DEAD! 😭"
@RozWBrazel
@RozWBrazel 22 күн бұрын
And also notice the ending music 🫢
@maroonedinblue
@maroonedinblue 22 күн бұрын
Megan’s song Hiss was actually a diss track for Drake, not Nicki. The Megans Law line just happened to apply to Nicki and she took it that way
@kilgorehagechester7021
@kilgorehagechester7021 20 күн бұрын
Comparing Kendrick to Common complaining about G Funk in the 90s is actually a perfect analogy because when Ice Cube called Common on that, Common immediately put his money where his mouth was and burned Cube so bad it took years to recover
@Uvemvanefly
@Uvemvanefly 24 күн бұрын
I think its worth noting that Kendrick and Drake's beef has been bubbling under since Control for a lot of reasons and, frankly, the shots at Drake this year really popped off with Megan who wasn't really trying to aim at Nicki but Nicki got hit in the crossfire. Important context because rap, despite its size, really is a small world after all and the tiniest things tend to have long lasting knock-on effects because of how interconnected the sphere is.
@lemontreeleaf
@lemontreeleaf 24 күн бұрын
the context being that nicki and megan have been subbing each other for literal years at this point... this has nothing to do with megan lmfao
@Uvemvanefly
@Uvemvanefly 24 күн бұрын
@@lemontreeleaf They had, yes, but Hiss was a song that's about predators in the industry that has iirc no bars about Nicki directly but several that are directly about Drake. Megan did start this wave and deserves her flowers. Especially since Drake went out of his way to diss her during the Tory Lanez bullshit.
@MrGared22
@MrGared22 23 күн бұрын
​@@Uvemvanefly Yeah, I remember the line about having the same scars being a reference to Drake's cosmetic surgeries like Kendrick later did.
@Bringmethehorizondude
@Bringmethehorizondude 24 күн бұрын
“Biggest hypocrite of 2024” before leading into the little girls song was a stroke of genius.
@donnerthereindeer366
@donnerthereindeer366 24 күн бұрын
Oof what did I just comment 💀
@Bringmethehorizondude
@Bringmethehorizondude 24 күн бұрын
lol the song btw is called, “Thank Heaven for little girls” and it’s from a 1950s films called Gigi.
@donnerthereindeer366
@donnerthereindeer366 24 күн бұрын
@@Bringmethehorizondude I’m sorry for assuming it would be “Little Girls” by Oingo Boingo 😭
@Bringmethehorizondude
@Bringmethehorizondude 24 күн бұрын
@@donnerthereindeer366 nahhh, I lold
@avery1703
@avery1703 18 күн бұрын
I will say, I'm a firm believer that words mean things and that throwing around serious accusations is sometimes done much too lightly. However, I also think Kendrick absolutely 100% believes what he's saying and hates Drake's fucking guts. All of Euphoria was basically "no you misunderstand, I'm not trying to be cute, I hate you and if you keep going I'll prove how much"
@kaamn1829
@kaamn1829 20 күн бұрын
I think the weird part of all this is everybody acting like drake hasn't been doing all this shady shit in public for years, but women in the industry, especially Black women, have been saying this crap for ages and no one listened. people act like drake being a terrible person is new cuz they want to listen to his stuff and not know what he's up to. this is about more than money or clout, this is about a man finally saying what women have been, and it finally being taken as serious beef instead of just girls starting drama. like not acknowledging it or saying it's hypocrisy or whatever doesn't actually absolve anything, but people want to act like it's settled so they can move on with the new normal drake is suggesting (the status quo) cuz it's easier rather than the one kendrick and megan and others are pointing out, which means having to do something. it's the same as always.
@ryanmartiliano2601
@ryanmartiliano2601 24 күн бұрын
I didn't think you were gonna actually talk about this
@techyn8502
@techyn8502 24 күн бұрын
music man talks about music
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 24 күн бұрын
​@@techyn8502He admits he takes forever to make videos so he usually misses the boat on current events.
@lecongvu1997
@lecongvu1997 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, given how uncomfortable he is throughout this video, he should probably just stay away from it.
@99morphine
@99morphine 24 күн бұрын
​@@lecongvu1997 I think that's the whole point tbh
@lyleugleman9799
@lyleugleman9799 24 күн бұрын
todd man i don’t know about the smoke/no fire comment. kendrick might have gone a step too far by labeling him a pdf file downloader, but he’s certainly had many relationships that would count as grooming/toxic power imbalances at the very least. him meeting hailie bieber when she was 14 and dating her briefly when she turned 18, and doing the same thing with jimmy jam’s daughter bella harris who he met at 16, is really gross and creepy.
@6li8storm40
@6li8storm40 24 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, our whole society has conflated “pedophile” with sexual behaviour with any minor. They’re not the same thing, but I’m not sure they’ll ever be disentangled. I doubt Drake is a literal pedophile, but it seems pretty likely he’s a sexual predator, who targets minors.
@sandenson
@sandenson 23 күн бұрын
Oh my fucking god I didn't know about Hailie Bieber
@redactedredacted6656
@redactedredacted6656 23 күн бұрын
people have forgotten about drakes brief alleged relationship with jorja smith because she was 19 at the time. dating a 19 year old when you're 31 isn't illegal or extremely predatory but it's often loser behaviour at best and manipulative at worst. the lyrics of jaded seem so much worse in the context of the rumours about drake
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 23 күн бұрын
Right buying a young girl gifts & texting her etc as a grown man & dating at 18 is essentially grooming. All the at behavior is WEIRD. So we need to pay attention. Not to mention the 17 yo he literally kissed & commented on her body after knowing her age 🤦🏾‍♀️
@lyleugleman9799
@lyleugleman9799 23 күн бұрын
@@redactedredacted6656 on that note, the lyrics of TSU off Certified Loverboy read like a damn confession. this guy is proud of his groomer tendencies and feels emboldened to put them on a song because the general population doesn’t seem to take it seriously… remind you of anyone? perhaps R KELLY, who was SAMPLED ON THAT SONG
@RoastMePls
@RoastMePls 23 күн бұрын
Realistically Drake is too big to fail... but he'll walk around with this shit stain on him for the rest of his career.
@WTFMUZIC
@WTFMUZIC 22 күн бұрын
Love the subtle nod to “The Blacker the Berry” at the end of the video
@polarfoxgirl
@polarfoxgirl 24 күн бұрын
Honestly, the best outcome for this situation would be if it leads to some kind of MeToo moment in the industry, with victims coming out and public opinion turning against abusers and people who protect them. (not sure if Drake is in the first category or the second one, but either is enough to justify ostracization)
@justingerald
@justingerald 24 күн бұрын
Yep, take them all down. Like, even if we didn't know what we now know about Diddy, he was well known for being a, like, emotional abusive jerk, but we all were like, those 90s hits tho. (And those 90s hits were great!) His most viral moment as a producer was making that kid walk to Brooklyn to buy a cake. It's funny but then you think about it now and you're like.. oh...
@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801
@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 24 күн бұрын
Honestly to me, the things we knew before the songs should be more than enough to be ostracized
@brennan_
@brennan_ 24 күн бұрын
yeah I know a lot of people have been painting Kendrick as bringing up the predatory stuff to just to "win" the beef when it seems clear he HATES Drake for countless reasons and everything he's done, to me, has read as him baiting Drake into a beef to justify doing everything in his power to culturally excise him from hip hop as publicly as possible.
@6li8storm40
@6li8storm40 24 күн бұрын
@@brennan_That’s my impression. Todd even commented on the real hate there.
@Scorpia161
@Scorpia161 23 күн бұрын
that would be the best outcome, but i doubt it. Like Todd said, for all their disses about each other mistreating women, they both have chosen to work with abusers, not even in the distant past. they don't really care. i don't think fans really care. there's no reason to believe all the talk will lead to actual legal consequences unfortunately.
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