Pope to Anglican Primate: Our division is nothing less than a scandal and burden

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10 жыл бұрын

en.romereports.com This is the second time the two spiritual leaders met since both of their elections in 2013. .
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@petercdowney
@petercdowney 3 жыл бұрын
There's just one problem though: The two churches are split on the issue of the ordination of women. The Catholic Church will never ordain women, and the Church of England will never stop ordaining women.
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 Жыл бұрын
Yup if u does this it will only create an ideology in the non split catholic churches that ordaining women is permissible.... And what would the orthodox catholic think about this.... I think only diologe diplomatic and politicals ties should only be the unity not in sacramental communiniship...
@quipotestcaperecapiat1123
@quipotestcaperecapiat1123 Жыл бұрын
It's not only that, in "Apostolicae Curae" Pope Leo XIII defined, that the orders of the Anglican heretics are INVALID, they are all laymen, nothing more. But in case of Bergoglio, who's surprised.
@popazz1
@popazz1 10 жыл бұрын
A division between Rome & England of over 500 years.Old Henry Tudor couldn't have possibly have known what he'd set in motion when he broke away from Rome. ;-)
@popazz1
@popazz1 10 жыл бұрын
Oops,my grammar,lol.Just noticed,too many 'have's. :-(
@popazz1
@popazz1 10 жыл бұрын
John Mark ... Yup,that's at the core of the split between Rome & England,one man abusing his privilege as monarch to get his own way.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 6 жыл бұрын
henry Tudor didn't care, just so he got his wife du jour
@rockyracoon3233
@rockyracoon3233 5 жыл бұрын
@@erikriza7165 Mind u, Henry's CofE used Latin until his death in 1547.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 5 жыл бұрын
@@rockyracoon3233 Rocky, you are right about that
@papasmurf6180
@papasmurf6180 9 жыл бұрын
I love the Anglican liturgy and traditions but I'm annoyed by the Anglican Church's deviation from true teaching. How can we expect unity if the COE continues on being heretical?
@POCCNRCKNbY
@POCCNRCKNbY 4 жыл бұрын
Edmund Banks Still heretical and still lacks Apostolic authority. It isn’t good enough.
@steven21736
@steven21736 3 жыл бұрын
What about the personal ordinariate?
@remyconner1260
@remyconner1260 2 жыл бұрын
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@walkeremilio6008
@walkeremilio6008 2 жыл бұрын
@Remy Conner Instablaster :)
@remyconner1260
@remyconner1260 2 жыл бұрын
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@donsiyonfernando5461
@donsiyonfernando5461 2 жыл бұрын
We want Anglicans once again unified
@rr884136
@rr884136 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the division is one of scandal, and that’s why they need follow the one true faith, the traditional Catholic faith. They just seem to ignore this though?
@bugattiben5524
@bugattiben5524 Жыл бұрын
We’ll have our own church thank you we don’t want to follow your cult of nonces
@fredstone3745
@fredstone3745 4 жыл бұрын
The last Archbishop of Canterbury died in 1558.
@grandmoff21
@grandmoff21 10 жыл бұрын
Was Archbishop Welby wearing the Pope Paul VI episcopal ring?
@jnuval
@jnuval 10 жыл бұрын
Because Pope Paul VI gifted it to Archbishop Welby's predecessor as a gesture of goodwill towards Christian Unity. The Anglican Ordinariate wouldn't have been possible without that first gesture.
@grandmoff21
@grandmoff21 10 жыл бұрын
jnuval That I know and I'm glad there's someone else who knows that fact. I just couldn't tell if the Archbishop was wearing the ring or not because I thought it was bigger.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 6 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting. Thanks for saying it. I didn't know that
@mariapiag.4995
@mariapiag.4995 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between Anglican-catholic church and Roman catholic church?
@mosesking2923
@mosesking2923 7 жыл бұрын
Roman Catholic church is led by the pope, successor of St. Peter. It is 2000 years old and was founded by Peter himself. The Anglican Church was founded by Henry VIII in the 16th century, when the pope wouldn't allow him to get a divorce. He seized church lands and created his on church. The Anglican church is currently led by the Queen who appoints the bishops, etc.
@mosesking2923
@mosesking2923 7 жыл бұрын
There are smaller differences, such as the Anglicans allowing ordination of women, no prayer to Mary or Saints, and the equality of all bishops with no centralized authority like the papacy. But ultimately, the Anglicans are a heretical church and have no valid legitimacy like the catholics (and orthodox).
@Themanyfacesofego
@Themanyfacesofego 6 жыл бұрын
Maria. Some people see the Anglican Church as a REFORMED version of Catholicism ,( i.e. Catholicism without a Pope, and a church in which Priests can marry as in The Bible.) It is also a church free from a lot of manmade superstitions that had influenced the ROMAN catholic church. Although in some ways "Catholic" the Anglican church is also "Protestant'" It is through the Church that we have Protestant Succession to the British throne.
@410142109
@410142109 6 жыл бұрын
The bottom line for Christians is God is the Father and NO ONE comes to the FATHER [GOD] unless they come to Jesus Christ their only LORD and saviour ,that`s it and if anyone says any different they are not Christian. FORGET POLITICS!.
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 6 жыл бұрын
The Catholic Church was founded on the Rock of St. Peter. The Anglican "church" was founded on the gonads of henry VIII
@josephgallardo8134
@josephgallardo8134 5 жыл бұрын
Im a Catholic and an Anglican I won't comprised trying to seperate from either one
@bigblackjeffery842
@bigblackjeffery842 2 жыл бұрын
Is a copy of that book available anywhere?
@Episcopalianacolyte
@Episcopalianacolyte 2 ай бұрын
Praying for unity!🙏🙏🙏 Roman Catholics are always welcome at our communion rails.
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
Sean Dodd. Yes I am. And I do have that right.
@sonofman858
@sonofman858 4 жыл бұрын
The English church renounced papal authority when Henry VIII failed to secure an annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon in 1534. In 1534, King Henry VIII separated the English Church from Rome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." [Matthew 16:18] In England, the monarch - aka, Queen Elizabeth II - is the head of the Church of England. Therefore, her family also belongs to the church. The Church of England is a Protestant Anglican church, and the royal family has practiced and involved themselves with the religion since the 1500s "And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold, and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:4] Revelation 18. [4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. [5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and the Lord hath remembered her iniquities. [6] Render to her as she also hath rendered to you; and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup wherein she hath mingled, mingle ye double unto her. [7] As much as she hath glorified herself, and lived in delicacies, so much torment and sorrow give ye to her; because she saith in her heart: I sit a queen, and am no widow; and sorrow I shall not see. [8] Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine, and she shall be burnt with the fire; because God is strong, who shall judge her. [9] And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication, and lived in delicacies with her, shall weep, and bewail themselves over her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning:
@bournemouthisshit
@bournemouthisshit Жыл бұрын
Christian unity is a much vaunted goal. Apparently. It will never happen because each sect seeks to distance itself from those mired in scandal in order, chiefly, to protect income. The divided church works better, I think that the top people, in candour, might say.
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
Sean Dodd & AntPDC. I wonder if you are both "catholic"?
@CSTCFL
@CSTCFL 10 жыл бұрын
All the great Popes of the past are shaking their heads
@AntPDC
@AntPDC 7 жыл бұрын
And Jesus Christ himself is shaking his head at you and your kind.
@latinmasschoir5581
@latinmasschoir5581 7 жыл бұрын
Yep... they sure are! The Popes have bravely fought for Truth, fought for the Mass... So if these schismatics and heretics want to come home, fine but they must accept ALL the teaching on the one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church
@shawnadequan7893
@shawnadequan7893 6 жыл бұрын
Try living it as a Family!
@guerlinesaintlouis4471
@guerlinesaintlouis4471 3 жыл бұрын
The stardom of the Lord... being a 'Martire'... Cross and it's several religions and tutelage... the boule tete of the priest went phhu
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
Candice... We do know what Jesus lookef like....you just have to look at the Holy Shroud in Turin Italy...there you have it.
@FrenchAnglican
@FrenchAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
Primate of All England, Church of England.
@hriata5384
@hriata5384 Жыл бұрын
Yup if u does this it will only create an ideology in the non split catholic churches that ordaining women is permissible.... And what would the orthodox catholic think about this.... This will create a more theological dispute with other bazentine who would like to be communion with rome too. I think only diologe diplomatic and politicals ties should only be the unity not in sacramental communiniship...
@edwardfranks5215
@edwardfranks5215 23 күн бұрын
The problem is that monotheists are always squabbling and have since jews decided there was only one God. Anglicanism is less hung up on details such as how Chrit is present in the Eucharist and content with He is and leaving it a mystery like the Orthodox. The best is to treat each other as brothers and sisters in the faith. if you don't non-Christians will rightly say, "Look at you preaching forgiveness, redemption, beginning, and you can't even get your act together so why should we believe you hypocrites?" You're a catholic orthodox Christian if you believe in the Symbol of the Faith, The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. The Western addition of the filoque is a departure from the text but does not alter the doctrine that the Father is the sole source of the Holy Spirit who proceeds from Him to and thru the Son and back to the Father.
@annemcquade7185
@annemcquade7185 3 жыл бұрын
How about your two sides getting me compensated, in all ways, for the scandalous way I and my family was treated because of your "scandalous divisions!" Your "Law" although apparently not based on artificial Intelligence or machine structure, has about as much human "empathy or conscience " or even ability, for a woman like me! And that is one who has given and worked hard completely, all my life! At the very least when my x husband dies make sure his Pension which he was gifted with by my man /men Lawyers, (one who forced me to sign papers- there is a legal term for such an action!), while I was denied everything, goes to me as it should, so that I can see and visit and help his family etc., okay! It is only right! Why should the those who didn't work for it, benefit from all my caring, hard work and constant worry due to repression, mysogymy and corruption of others especially in the place termed " Churches!" Your Law needs reformed for its cold inadequate inhuman like structure. Why should I lose my home because of the calling of the Holy Spirit to the Holy Eucharist in the Mass which will make us "One" through, with and in God. So be responsible to do something about it especially considering I looked after everyone concerned, as is demanded by your Holy Church (es)!!! Thank you for your hopefully forthcoming apology, action and human concern! Thank you God Bless you. I don't expect two separate Churches to be so cruelly irresponsible especially since it was the crime of a Protestant Minister who has totally turned my life and my families life to misery, via our inability to worship together! (Etc.,). By the Minister's complete irresponsibility he deemed the marriage invalid befor it was even documented by His wrong inhuman action towards me!!! And we won't even mention the effects of the crime of "Bigotry!" Now there's another story! Lots of love in God, Anne xxx from Scotland Come on be men be courageous at heart be fair! .Alleluia! Amen Praise the Lord that so many were helped too! Why should me and my family pay the price??? Take responsibility now!!!
@davidcrisell9679
@davidcrisell9679 Жыл бұрын
Full communion with the Catholic church. What a day that will be, an Anglican being allowed to take part in the blessed sacrament.
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
AntPDC...yes...are you?
@alainkurniawan5364
@alainkurniawan5364 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch the video, please....
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
Xan01...the Anglicans really don't have to try and embarass pope Francis...he does a great job of doing that by himself... to himself...
@AntPDC
@AntPDC 7 жыл бұрын
Are you Christian?
@seandodd7421
@seandodd7421 7 жыл бұрын
Therese Mackenzie a better question would be are you catholic? If so you have no business speaking of his holiness in that way
@AntPDC
@AntPDC 7 жыл бұрын
Sean Dodd I've never understood why many Roman Catholics elevate their particular beliefs above Christianity itself. That is why I posed the wider question. I've come to realise that some, if not all, Roman Catholics believe they have a total monopoly on Christianity.
@seandodd7421
@seandodd7421 7 жыл бұрын
AntPDC I understand completely. It was more of a question of if he is Roman Catholic why is he/she so open with badmouthing the Vatican and pope.
@AntPDC
@AntPDC 7 жыл бұрын
Sean Dodd Indeed so - I've never seen this degree of hostility towards a sitting pontiff from his own, as it were.
@josefatrio7771
@josefatrio7771 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas Cranmer will cry in tears :( :( HERETIC Welby
@erikriza7165
@erikriza7165 6 жыл бұрын
i imagine cranmer did a lot of crying the moment he died
@connorchapman7524
@connorchapman7524 7 жыл бұрын
'Theres a lot of Christian values here'. (he says sarcastically) This comment board is the biggest load of hipocracy I've seen I'm my life. Its rediculess what are yahs at. You all need to take a chill pill and relax, who cares what one group of people do, does it effect you? No. Calm down. Also women were among the most abundant of Christ followers along with slaves and outcasts of society they have as much right to be involved as anyone, meaning everyone.
@annemcquade7185
@annemcquade7185 2 жыл бұрын
Try living it!!!
@cherryscarlett
@cherryscarlett Жыл бұрын
_Anglican Church is Abolished._ ✓
@edulopb1487
@edulopb1487 2 ай бұрын
Union now !
@neuronneuron3645
@neuronneuron3645 4 жыл бұрын
ANATHEMA
@susianawati1746
@susianawati1746 Жыл бұрын
LELUHUR AKU SUSI ANAWATI IDENTITAS PENDAKIAN ROHANI DAN LELUHUR .... CC PATIN dan Ada dari ALLAH yang tidak bisa Aku tulis Karena SEMUA ATAS IJIN ALLAH DAN KEHENDAK ALLAH ASMAUL HUSNA BERGERAK DENGAN SENDIRINYA sedangkan hamba Hanya Manusia Biasa .
@fmorant2222
@fmorant2222 7 жыл бұрын
Sean Dodd. About pope bergoglio. When the Pope speaks ExCathedra then we should obey him. When he is not, we should not obey him. He is the worst pope we've ever had.
@petercdowney
@petercdowney 7 жыл бұрын
Therese Mackenzie Not necessarily - even when not speaking ex cathedra, you should still take what he says on board.
@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46
@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46 6 жыл бұрын
The head of the Church of England is Her Gracious Britannic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Defender of the faith.
@jacobct6775
@jacobct6775 5 жыл бұрын
J Nicholas-Windsor she probably dosnt know what the trinity is lol
@internetenjoyer1044
@internetenjoyer1044 4 жыл бұрын
@@arolemaprarath6615 thats the kind of heretical overblown shit that caused the reformation (which got a lot wrong, luckily the Anglicans didn't go down the "sola fide" dead alley), the notion that the Pope should be worshiped. The Roman Catholics put so many intitution between man and God that people worship those institutions instead
@midknightfenerir
@midknightfenerir Жыл бұрын
Defender of faith title comes from the Catholic Church given to a Catholic who defends the Catholic Christian Faith against unbelievers and heretics.
@capybarapullup1233
@capybarapullup1233 10 ай бұрын
@@internetenjoyer1044 Become CaTHOLIC
@ezekielvallada3997
@ezekielvallada3997 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong just wrong
@user-zl6wv5zk8m
@user-zl6wv5zk8m 10 ай бұрын
Bla,bla,bla,bla
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