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People in this "booming" economy can't even afford to pay for themselves, let alone children.

The Ruling Class: "Nobody is entitled to livable wages, affordable housing/groceries/childcare/energy/healthcare, nor a habitable and safe planet for your kids to inherit!" Also the Ruling Class: "Why aren't the peasants reproducing anymore??!!!" 🤷‍♀

So sorry about not providing pawns for the elites! We’re just really tired of being exploited

What is the point of having a high GDP and a booming stock market in a country where a large portion of the population is living in tent cities?

The middle class figured out how to cause deflation. Eat the Rich , don't have kids 😭

Sounds like our overlords are worried about having enough workers.

Whenever these guys argue that falling population is a disaster because of labor shortages and consumer shortages, it reminds me how Southern plantation owners argued that the economy would collapse without slaves.

Our economy struggling with uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.

The only reason the government would incentivize more children would be to ensure more bodies to send into their wars.

Consumerism IS the Real Problem. Having to perpetually "grow" the economy (to pay off debt to Central Banks) to "sustain" the Global economy is utterly ludicrous.

The Fed's doom-and-gloom forecasts had us all spooked last year, but it turns out they were the ones who got spooked! Productivity soared to a impressive 2.6%, smashing the expected 1.8% growth potential! Kudos to the workers who proved the naysayers wrong! Looks like we might be better off without the Fed's gloomy predictions after all

In the 1970, one medium income could support a family of 5 or more, buy a house and have savings. Now, a couple each with a medium income can't afford a house, let alone kids. The fact he did not know this and put it down to a decision speaks volumes about what he knows. Knows nothing.

I don't really buy his thesis that the reason people don't want to have kids is "just because." That may be a small part of it but the bigger piece is _why_ do people feel this way? It's because when economic opportunity in developed countries goes down like we're seeing here in North America, where child care is obscenely expensive and people are making $8-$15/hr., payroll taxes are high, a 1 bedroom apartment is around $1000 a month, how much is a 2 bedroom, like $1700? People begin to use their brains vs. their sexual organs and think, if life sucks for me why would I want to bring children into the world? It's a valid question. In the United States something like 60% of people live paycheck to paycheck and the number of homeless people and people living out of their cars is skyrocketing. If you want to see a population boost bring back life from the 1950s where dad would go work and mom stayed home and that was enough income for a family of 4 with a dog and a cat and a mortgage payment and still had money for vacations and to save. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble with my own thesis but it seems pretty clear to me why people are not having children, it's because life sucks for them and they're having their own set of problems.

Make it super expensive to live and make home ownership so unaffordable that young people simply give up hope of ever owning a home and guess what? they don't get married, don't form households and don't have kids. We've transferred wealth from young people to old people for so long that there are now very few pathways for average young people to realize culturally accepted average ways of life - like raising families.

"But people in Africa are poor and they're still having babies." Yeah when people are in extreme destitution and uneducated they tend to reproduce, often because they believe in a sky wizard or they just need those children to help them get food when they're old. Sometikes they believe in nationalism or some other "broader identity" that gives them non-tangible reasons for reproducing. Also, in the places where people are having babies, they're probably not in an economy where they're competing with generational wealth and corporations for the right to have a place to throw their body after work. I am in my mid 30's, a veteran and college graduate (no debt) and still cant afford a home. Not only do I see it as not ethical to have children when I cant even house them, I'm also not staying in one place and having "skin in the game" for a community. I have to constantly shift communiti3s and jobs as the economic waves price me out of rental markets and necessitate I move to where the jobs are. I am being crushed, not by poverty, but by economic inequality.

Monday: The robots and AI are going to take away all the jobs!! What are we going to do?!! Tuesday: Population is in decline! We won't have any workers for jobs!!!! Wednesday: The world is overpopulated! Start eating bugs immediately!!! Thursday: Start over Mondays message.

Can't have kids if you can't afford it !!! Blame currency debasement, money printing and the fiat system.

Dude is locked into the infinite growth paradigm. "If we're not growing forever everything will collapse!" Dude, everything is going to collapse regardless.

I will only bring children into a situation better than my childhood, not worse

It really feels like dancing around the real problem . People arent having children becasue they themselves dont feel secure. You hear about the fact that in 1970 you could raise a family on minimum wage etc. With that was, most people owned there homes/ paying a mortgage / FELT like where they were living was securely "theirs". "Im a good tenet " the landlord isnt kicking me out . They felt like my job was "MY JOB". If i work hard I will move up (if not i will be paid fairly) but regardless in 30 years i will retire and play golf . THAT IS NOT THE CASE TODAY. Every study shows that people that MOVE make more, so even if you wanted to be "loyal" its a self destructive practice. Your paying more in rent than the mortgage on a house, and it not yours. Its why i think so many people own cars, it one thing you can OWN, and on todays wages. NO parent wants to bring their child into an unstable situation.

The issue is it is too expensive to have children. Most families have to be a two incomes to keep a roof over their kids’ heads, daycare is close to $20K per year for two kids, and god forbid if your insurance did not cover the birth of your children because now you are strapped with hospital bills. Wake up! It is the cost of adding another person to the family.

Our society made the decision of having rapid growth from 1945 to around 2000 and the trade off was the debt fiat systems allowing the baby boomers to live with history’s greatest standard of living. Their children and especially their children will pay for the consequence of them living beyond their means. High debt, high inflation, high interest. Millennials and younger generations will be slaves stuck barely making it with everything outpacing their incomes. To say people have less kids because society is wealthy is ridiculous. I’d like to have kids but if I can’t afford to take care of myself, I defiantly can’t afford to take care of kid(s). I should also mention that the Boomers, instead of wanting to foster having children brought in hordes of unskilled people from the third world. This depressed wage growth and unnaturally swelled the population.

It’s very clear that the modern woman doesn’t want the job of bearing and rearing children. The more educated, the more career oriented, the less they want that job.

It's not money, even women who can afford to have as many children as they want aren't having any. Darrell is right, the #1 reason is simply "they don't want to". Women just don't want to do that anymore. They have other choices, options. I want my daughter to choose how she lives her life ... hobbies, career, travel, purpose, etc. If she chooses not to have kids, we are totally ok with that. And also, I think the planet doesn't need 8 or 9 billion humans ... it seems way above a reasonable, sustainable number. 2 Billion seems like a reasonable number ... the Earth could handle that for a thousand years if we were smart, and that's the number we had when my father was born.

the only people concerned about population issue are governments and corporations. They both have entitlement programs that require a new crop of working aged adults ready to pay into their respected systems.

I‘m a 44yo male, physician, single, have no kids, and many peers of mine are same. Its a social trend here in Europe.

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You need to read "Limits to Growth". Infinite population growth on a finite planet is impossible. We are running out of resources and wildlife has been decimated.

The problem is always government, not the population.

It’s a problem for bankers and tax collectors. Not for the people.

Needing population growth for economic growth is an obsolete concept. With AI and automation, we won’t need as many people to keep the economic engine humming.

Women have come to realise they can have a better quality of life without kids. More free time, more money, less stress, less tired, less cleaning up after others, less time preparing meals, often with little or no appreciation for there effort The list goes on, & on.

Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. There needs to be more focus on quality of life and less focus on quantity of life. Governments and businesses want a growing population for cheap labor.

Pretty simple. Capitalism for various reasons has caused the birthrate to tumble. Capitalism in true form treats this problem (like climate change, pollution, worker suffering) as a future problem. They only care about next quarter. Governments are also behaving the same way, using immigration as a stopgap. That won't last either. It's all going to end in tears.

Important discussion. “But, but, robots/AI will produce” “Robots don’t buy cars. Robots don’t go to restaurants” They also don’t buy houses. If one looks at various historical periods of rapid declines in population ( and there have been many): who suffers the most? The Rich. Why? Research a little to find out.

life is hard enough for rich people, so why would anyone bring children to this world to be a working poor ? I don't blame anyone for having less kids , if at all, than previous generations

I guess they changed their mind. They told us that there were too many of us and we were depleting the earth's resources. 🤔 (That's when we were approaching only 7 billion)

Heaven forbid human beings actually become valuable. The entire system won't know what to do...

We are middle class and would have another child. We simply can’t afford it.

The world did very well when there was only 2 billions of us 50 years ago

in 1980 who predicted the internet and smartphone...in 1930 who predicted nuclear weapons... no one knows what the world will be like in 50 years, 20 years....

For men its barely worth it to have kids. 1 they are expensive and things are just getting more expensive. 2 women can use their kids against men and have all the power if things dont work out. Me hearing I got a woman pregnant would be one of the worst things I could hear.

My fear is that governments (particularly in the United States) may respond by taking birth control away from women. It's not a problem now, but I could see it becoming a problem in the coming decades. It's important for voters to support politicians who will protect access to contraception.

I'm an RN in skilled nursing. Industry on the verge of collapse now! Yet it's going to grow by 35% . So many old people. Good luck

Rich people just don't get it. You can't even afford to have kids these days. You look at what the average wage is, the cost to buy a home, the cost to raise a kid. It's out of reach, the wealthy have plundered to such a degree and they hold so many of the assets, we can't function with the scraps left over. The second angle is with metoo. The hyper awareness of consent and appropriate behavior, which don't get me wrong I'm not against, it's just shifted society to be far more conservative in their sexuality. Like there are a lot of icels that shame hook up culture. Many normal people, they take a look at this, they realize that one accusation can ruin their life, they say why do I want to bother with dating? What do you think happens when you shame sexuality and make it so expensive that kids are virtually impossible to raise? The decline of the world population is about a certain as the Titanic sinking. It's just math

So you want to increase the population? For how long? Until there are unsolvable population problems like in the Third World? Is that your only solution to economic growth? Surely there’s another way.

Good 👍! This is great news. At no time even in 1st world countries has poverty been abolished. Until a system can be developed that provides every living human being what they need to survive and thrive, more humans is not the answer. Take care of those already here first! Quality over Quantity!!! 😳

Population collapse is not the biggest issue it is taxes. Everything is taxed and it is killing the middle class. People have children if they can afford a home and afford to take care of them

In 1960 a man could support a family, house and automobile on one income. Today it is impossible to raise a family on one income, you need two plus incomes to just afford rent and food for two.

IF there is no consumerism, a lot of these problem will go away.

With less population who is going to pay our massive debt?

Not enough consumers? Then why are prices going up? Less demand should drive prices down not up.

imo it's also social cohesion. I live in Western Europe and have zero loyalty to my country. 50% of people here are already foreign-born or 2nd gen migrants. I just don't see myself living here with kids long-term. It's getting more unsafe by the year, especially in schools. Traditions, country-specific festivals, and symbols are fading away. I don't want to have kids so that the state can grin from ear to ear for having received one more hollow future tax payer for this madness. Second reason: It used to be easier to raise kids in a huge village. You open your front door and there were already kids/other women eager to play with your toddler and care for it while you live and breathe for a moment. My cousin got her first child 2yrs ago, and she couldn't catch a break. Imagine this: Your partner is at work, your parents are at work, the kids are all at school/kidergarden, the neighbours are at work. You're basically on your own, with a sometimes randomly crying, crawling chaotic human you need to care for 24/7 for *years* . How can you even go take a shower? That's so utter unnatural and even a bit inhumane/cruel to the soul. Third reason: Expectations at your job and from the government. I am expected to work like a robot. My colleague, who was pregnant, was asked constantly by her colleagues when is she going to return to work. Let her breathe ffs!

No problem for US. We have endless influx of Mexicans here.

He didn't take into account poor countries, Africa and Islam. They are all increasing in population exponentially

It's not about affordability. Homo sapiens used to breed like rabbits in prehistoric times. The reason is quite obvious : there is just much better use of people's free time (endless new forms of entertainment, endless new content etc) than embarking on a very long and tiresome quest of having children with no obvious pay-off. Since there is no instinct to have children in Homo sapiens apes, they will always lose to high speed mobile internet. Unless incentives are drastically changed (people being paid full-time salary for years for having children) nothing will change. P.S. Anybody who tries to argue can check for themselves the time they spend each day/week/month on content consumption and what could have happened if they redirected that time to the goal of having children (finding a suitable partner, new sources of income etc) Children just can't compete

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fewer people, people are more valued. Population decline is a necessity.

Good interview. Enjoy the wide range of guests. Keep up the good work David.

people don't want to bring more misery to this doomed planet

Women know that as humans we see time ahead of heat sinks, food insecurity, water insecurity, wars and poverty from joblessness. Nothing is free unlike our parents or grandparents had. Team that cost burden with housing costs and not unsurprisingly we are seeing if we can't house ourselves even if working, how can we provide for kids? The fact that parents aren't adjusting to that reality and choosing to live separately and pool resources gives us an idea of policy changes needed.

Excellent interview! Thank you

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David keep the good work

Seniors may not consume a lot of goods, but they do pay for a lot of services.

You always provide great content

It is impossible to find natural resources at the same rate as (past) population growth. Can you imagine doubling food production, steel production, copper production, potable water, housing, everything.... in 40 years then do it again in 30 years, then do it in 15 years...?

I understand that those belonging to the lower classes who lucky enough to be alive in late 1350s Europe enjoyed a better quality of life than they may have experienced before 1348.

This was a good one David!

Polling does NOT show people “don’t want children.” People are worried about cost and career penalty. So most of that comes down to finances…

Thanks for all the content !

There no problem with population decline when global resources should be conserved ..

Great interview! Great guest!

Society will reduce funding for elderly individuals, leaving them to support themselves.

Environment and a proper marriage partner is EVERYTHING when deciding to have more children. I know as a woman whom waited ten years from adulthood to find the right man to start a family with and we now have six children! I got a college degree as well, which debt and late marriage delayed the number of children I had. Fertility is definitely harder at an older age but marriage to the wrong partner at a younger age could have destroyed my ability to have even six children. If the environment and mate had been right at 18yrs old I would have happily contributed 12 children to the economy but as I had to wait and had debt after college without a self sustaining property to raise children, I now only have six. My husband and I are still struggling to afford the lifestyle we NEED, not want, but need for our family of eight.

When you have to weigh the pros and cons of having children the great turning is here.

"We need more people to work for wages insufficient for basic living!"

Thank you, it's a mind blowing content!

Wait? I thought that’s what we wanted. Less people means less carbon emissions. Don’t we want a better planet for me and all my rich friends?

There are demographics that are having multiple babies - migrants and Muslims.

Great interview 👍!

The solution is stop giving all of the country’s money to boomers

I’m female and married . We have one child . I grew up working class and there was NO WAY I was gonna have 3 kids and be broke ! No thanks

I'm a hard working poor male, don't care, nothing will change for me.

My parents and my shih tzu are my kids. I bought us a new house and Im taking my parents to Cancun and then on a cruise later on. Plus, it feels good to help my mother have better doctors by helping her financially. I have my own vegetable garden and grow my own food and make my own bread. There are many ways a person can have a simple and fulfilling life.

Young people do not like babies and kids. Period. Just change the broken economic system and models based on wrong assumptions.

I actually can't wait

Isn't the ideal population 500m? WEF must be pleased they gonna reach their target.

Great episode

C'mon we ain't stupid...we know the real reason populations are in decline...

I like that he's honest about people simply not wanting to have kids. Look at most young women today, do you think they would make good girlfriends/wives/mothers? Or in turn, do most young guys have what it needs to be a husband and father? I guess this is an important cultural factor and I think it's the most important one. If you really want to have children, have a stable realtionship with a partner also wanting children, you can adjust spending to be able to afford children. But if you struggling finding a partner or don't even want one, well, no surprise we are not having children.

Great guest!

Elder orphans, old people that have no one, should be enought to encourage people to have kids. When you are old, kids are the only help you can count on. Money comes and goes but family is the most valuable.

Will we have a replacement theory person on next? LOL

Having children falls into the category of 'nice to have' vs 'need to have'.

Anyone here old enough to remember the "Population Bomb" which predicted that Planet Earth was destineed to become over-populated and hence DOOMED? Anyone?

Respecting the importance of affordable child care solutions is the problem, not women having less children. It will take a paradigm shift in societal thinking, but that is the solution.

Canada can continue with immigration from Asia, Africa and South America where there is no population collapse issues.