Me too. Seems like the younger generation that thinks it's ok to burn down cities should be made to sit down and watch lonesome dove.

Harry Winslow ... small town people. Small town lives. YUCK!

@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 You hate yourself huh?

@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 try before you knock it. I wouldn't have any other way.

I am particularly impressed by the way that Woodrow used exquisite courtesy while he was chastising that boorish scamp. Why, even Judith Martin (whom we all know and admire as Miss Manners) would find herself beaming with warm, genuine approval at his gracious demeanor.

Agreed. Also, "Will Penny" and "The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing".

The only western i like, book and movie

Yes, a great movie but there are two parts I can't stand, one is when they hung their friend, you stand by your friends, and the other is when that boy fell into a swarm of water moccasins. That is every Southern boy's worst nightmare and those swarms are real. I can't watch that.

@@tomjackson4374 He hung himself and agreed, the snakes was to say a nightmare.

​@@tomjackson4374 It's like he said at the time to the Robert Urich character Jake, "You ride with an outlaw you die with an outlaw. They were Texas rangers sworn to Always uphold the law. NO Favoritism. Loyalty to the Law and the Truth.

Tranquil fury.

Those are the ones you watch

Yep. I learned years ago the guy that’s gonna kick someone’s ass doesn’t talk about it he just does it.

Because he knows he is protecting his Son

Profanity and posturing doth not make da man!

Michael, that is one helluva story. Thank you for sharing. Your dad sounds like one serious bad ass. I share one from my family along the same theme. More recent. We were hunting on the Texas Louisiana border. Me, my dad and my two hounds. They had treed a raccoon and were making the usual fuss about below. It was dusk. And maybe we had wandered off a bit from the lease because about that time an old coot came rolling up in a six wheel swamp buggy type ATV. Felt like it was out of nowhere. He was in overalls. No shirt. Had a shotgun laid across him. He stopped. Spat tobacco. And said to my dad “you on mah land.” “Sorry about that mister. We’re hunting on the Boudreaux lease and I guess these dogs chased this raccoon on to your property.” My dad replied in a cordial tone. The old coot spat again looked at my dad and raised the shotgun off his chest a bit. “How ‘bout I kill onna dem dogs?” Tone changed to deadly serious, “Mister, those dogs are my son’s pride and joy. You kill one of them dogs. You ain’t gonna make it.” “S’allright.” He hissed. “Ain’t got long to live.” “Mister you kill one of them dogs, you’re going to be dead tonight.” Spoken flat as a fact. It stayed like that for an uncomfortable amount of time. My dad, without turning his head, “boy, you get these dogs off this man’s property.” After I leashed them, my dad said,”now Mister, you have a goodnight.” In a tone that was insistent. We turned to leave. I doubt my dad ever blinked until we were far enough away. We heard the buggy fire up and then get quieter in the distance. My dad wasn’t much on words of affection. But I felt about as loved as I could be I suppose. This was 2006. Crazy!

@@kareokedan I figure we're blood related distant cousins somewhere along the line. :>)

You don't kick a man's dog.

My Dad was a WW2 guy , lost a leg in the Philippines. He also took absolutely no shit . My Uncle Leonard was in the 101st , shot in the face on D-Day and lived. My Uncle George was in Bastogne- lived. They were , The Greatest Generation. Thanks for your Dad's service.

My dad was my little brothers T Ball coach and there was a drunk dad yelling and swearing at the umpire and his son throughout the game in the 1980s Dad warned him once then walked over grabbed him by an ear like a hog and dragged him squealing across the street and tuned him behind a van so the kids couldn't see....I did because I ran across....dad was in kyukoshin karate way back and basically tortured him with pressure points joint locks and twists of ears until he was crying and blubbering.....the police came but because they couldn't see visible bruises and he was drunk and foul mouthed they hauled him away You didn't mess with Tom the Terminator.....he was a foremen of the slaughterhouse and the workers gave him that name for good reason.....I was never punched harder by anyone than him until I was 23 years old....was a little violent when drunk....had no tolerance for anything in his cups...bit of an asshole but very tough

Yes the pat stood out. Great detail. I've had many copies of those books, and I admired Larry McMurtry as a great book collector. It will have to be my next book to read.

I love the smile from gus - acknowledging that woodrow is still badass when he has to be

So we’ll said

I noticed that also. Great film making.

Agreed. This may be the perfect movie. "Lonesome Dove" and "The Searchers" are my top 2, all time favorites.

Best western ever.

I agree

@@oldroslynboy Lonesome Dove, War and Remembrance and the Sopranos, best television entertainment for years.

Uhh, the "water moccasin" scene was pretty lame. Otherwise agreed! Terrific flick!

As a lover of LD ,here's some trivia for you. Kathy Bates tried out for the part of Peach & James Garner was actually signed on for Gus. He ended up getting sick & dropped out & Duvall got the part , which he really wanted. Julia Roberts wanted to play Lorena but was too tall. ( Thank God) Larry McMurtry wanted Tommy Lee as Gus but Duvall wanted Gus & got it. Kevin Spacey wanted to be July. I am forever grateful the stars were aligned to put each of these actors in the proper parts because they made history as an ensemble cast. Btw.. Duvall & Jones did all their own riding as they are both true horsemen . Cheers.

I knocked the book off in 3 days. I couldn't wait to get home after work and dive right back in. The novel had the same immersive quality as Dune or Lord of the Rings.

@@saralyness1031 Yes, I do know that Tommy Lee is a cowboy, lord knows he did a great job.

Great actors

Glad to see someone else appreciates his performance in The Apostle. Hits like The Godfather, Lonesome Dove, and others overshadowed some great work by Duvall.

Yeah....I would put him in the top 3 or 4 actors this country has ever produced.....when I saw him play Boo Radley, I was hooked......

@@larrymartin858 you took the words right out of my mouth!

Lest we forget his portrayal of "Mr. Arthur 'Boo' Radley" in "To Kill A Mockingbird".

Totally agree.

“I swear...”

life's lessons in 6 hours

Almost all came straight from the book, which I recommend to you.

I agree. There are so many scenes that are killer to. So many. These people are ingrained in my mind forever.

Yes it is and I've watched it a couple of times but McCall did give that guy the business

Let’s not forget Blu Duc.

Couldn't agree with you more! My favorite movie if all time! Watched it at least a couple hundred times. No joke. At the very least 200 times. Semper Fi from an old Marine!

@@jerrygirdner2753 Yup my favorite scene alsoSemper Fi from a Vietnam marine

Amen,love them both.

@@bobwilliams3502 Mine as well, Semper Fi from an old FMF "Doc".

Thank you, sir, for your comment. I agree with you. Some people have lost all respect for themselves and for others.

Nowadays you get sued out the butt for putting your hands on someone, but I totally agree with you.

@@johndoe-xy4xq Just so you know, putting your hands on someone without their permission is battery.

@@balrog322 no shat sherlock........I think I just said that. I guess you're the you tube lawyer now?

@@johndoe-xy4xq Considering battery is a criminal charge, whereas suing for damages is a civil proceeding, I’d have to riposte that I certainly know more about the law than you, Watson.

What else would you expect from a true Texan?

It was great theatre, but I suspect in real life some trooper would have shot him while he was beating up on the guy and Gus was still down the street.

@@stog9821 one of Woodrows men and Gus would have killed some troopers. They knew that

My biippkkllmy c///

@@bevo1776 I suspect that a Texan of that era would have shot that scout out of the saddle when he spat in his face. Neither Union soldiers or those who worked for them were held in high regard in post Civil War Texas.

So true!

He wrote about TEXAS from earliest days to astronauts - Terms of Endearment by McMurtry got a whole bunch of Academy awards for Jack Nicholson, Shirley Maclaine etc. BUT NOT ONCE during all the thank yous and speeches was the name of McMurty, the man who CREATED each of these fantastic characters mentioned once.

Watch it over and over and love it better each time ,, nothing else even close

That book was inches thick, and I was hooked by the end of the first page.

@@snu3877 Ditto!

well done !!!

That's cool ! Have a buddy named Gus. BTW , Great Looking Fur Buddy in your thumb nail pic.

I feel that side would come out of me too if anyone messed with my daughter like that.

best movie quote of all..so satisfying

Stephen Austin Agreed it’s a great statement, but I always favor “a man’s gotta know his limitations”, Dirty Harry.

I’ve got a shirt with that quote on it!

@@mrmarkymark77👍

U hit the nail right on the head!!! Best dang show ever!

He did over do it....

48 is too young for Ti comfort. Save it for when you really need it!

@@johnandmarie7250 LOL, for sure. I wish I had discovered it 10 years ago. Oh and it has a brooks saddle

You and I both. I have probably watched it 40 times or more over the years. I know most of it by heart. My daughter watched it with me when she was about 16. She’s not much of a movie watcher, but she sat glued to it the whole time. She cried a lot too. Probably my favorite film of all time!

@@crocodilegrundee4514 I too watched once with a 16 the entire series... Laughing.. crying.. yelling at the tv.

That got screwed up. I tried to say that I also watched with a 16 yr old that hated Westerns .After about 20 min ,she binge watched it all & loved it.

@@saralyness1031 Yeah it was amazing. This was the only movie I was ever able to get my daughter to watch with me. She gets bored with every movie I like, except this one.

@@crocodilegrundee4514 of course.. cute lovable little Newt may have had something to do with that lol

You ain't getting my other leg .

Listening to the Audiobook at the moment, and it is quite an epic story. Will watch the movie after I finish it. Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry, first published in 1985.

Agreed. A great Western. You don't want it to end. All the acting is great. Then there's also a really fine Western you occasionally see on television called "Will Penny". Also a little known but really good one with Burt Reynolds called "The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing". (Cat Dancing is the name of the Native American woman Burt Reynold's character loved.) There's also "Jeremiah Johnson." And don't forget "Hombre" with Paul Newman.

@@elizabethlinsay9193 "Absolutely", two great movies. Jeremiah Johnson is one of my favorites. Gotta admit I forgot about Burt in 'The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing' Gonna have to give it a look once again. Latest one I've seen on Netflix is 'Hostiles' with Christian Bale. It's truly a great western in my opinion.👍

Swindell Mack: I'll look for "Hostiles". Thank you.

Agreed

Roger Boatwright Love this movie so much I named my son Augustus. (Gus)

My favorite scene also. It demonstrates the life of a man who lived by honor and chose his own path and did not follow the crowd. My father was such a man. We need more men like that in today's world.

Joe Farley We have men like that just look in the mere, one will be looking back at you. We are men of our father.

Aye god woodrow....its been one hell of a party....

I love Lonesome Dove, yet while I appreciated that type of summary justice in the movie, at times I couldn't help wincing at certain scenes and contrasting how I think it would fit into my world now. While we could often see see the physical manifestation of the fictionalized action of their minds. What we couldn't see was the inner workings of their mind. Those subtle engines that guide our behaviour. Both Call and Guss were guided by a strict sense of justice, ethics and fairness of judgement. We could see these inner works conveyed in almost throw away moments; note how Gus behaved when they hang his old comrade for complicity in a reckless murder of farmers. Gus seems to just suck his teeth, but the moment is actually deeply emotive. Also an almost biblical juxtaposition when he compares himself to the Robert Urichs character . "I have the same feelings myself. "they being to shirk work and seek pleasure. But his behaviour was always balanced by justice and fairness, plus the ability to deliver the punishment if needed. Anyhow don't let my ramblings influence you! Watch for yourself the rich dramatic "American West Tapestry" of "Lonesome Dove" Don't waste another week without watching it...😊😉

AMEN to that,a Classic.

Too brutal, in my opinion.

@@blue_blue-1 Not sissified enough for your sensibilities, huh?

@Ivan Schlotzky Just showing the bar tender how rude he was-- kind of similar to returning the favor.

Duvall stated that McCrae was far and away his favorite role.

He said that role was more complex than Hamlet, and he played them both! @@patriciarossman8653

ever see him in 3 burials? he's amazing, unique for sure

Thats how we judge them too here in Australia.

Would have loved to be there, watching the mini series get made. Saddened i missed it.

He still does.

I think that you would enjoy the Richard Skinner video called The True Story of Lonesome Dove. Not polished fancy, but true and factual.

Bob's buried up near Picton ,Ontario Canada I hear from people up there. Good man.

I don't know that. Thanks for sharing.

It's roughly 6 hours, not 10 hours. it's 4 parts each about 1:30 to 1:40 long.

8 hours. 4 episodes. 2 hours each.

Hour and a half per episode; 4x1.5=6 hours

As ive probably said before- ive read thousands of books and never has an actor nailed the character so perfect as robert duvall in tbe translation to film with tommy lee jones a very very close second

​@@butt5fulNope, 6 hours running time. Maybe 8 with commercials.

Exactly. No one but Gus.

Yes! Notice the way Woodrow pats Gus' leg, signaling that's he's calm and in his right mind again.

Likely prevented a murder charge.

Yes! And if you watch carefully, you can see that when Woodrow recognizes that it is Gus, he pats Gus's leg to let him know. It is little details like that that make this such a classic.

Me too..

"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." My dad loved that Gus was going to bust him with his gun just in case.

@@krismikewill With his Walker, which weigh's almost 5 lbs.

I actually thought it was Kenny Rogers at first..

he has many but yes !!!

Yeah and then beats the Hell out of that Damn Bastard.

the " Hell Bitch " is a star in that scene also !

Damn straight

With kind regards....Bocephus. 😀

@@dagr.johnsen2164 It'll work every time....

@@rhikdavis Yeah.. ...with kicks in the shin and sev'ral bites from RinTinTin...

A.K.A a good old country a$$ whoopin’

I don't really like tommy lee jones but in this and in the fugitive... He's perfect

@@thenarrator1984 agree

@@thenarrator1984 he’s also perfect in Coal Miner’s Daughter.

The opening credits didn't give you a clue?

@@tomsampson8084 never read them, I listen and watch the movie.

Amen

I think we could use a whole lot of them!

Amen, I guess that is when men were men.

​@@jimbishop7436 Fictional?

Back when a man's actions could bring immediate consequences. Not everyone ran to get or waited for the law to come sort things out. Technically the cavelry was the highest federal authority above the local sherif if there was one. But the cavelry officer did not have legal right under the constitution to requisition the man's horse. He tried to use intimidation and then violence. His proxy overstepped and received some pushback.

branding iron!

@@josephbishop1146 No, he'd dropped the branding iron and grabbed a shoeing tong at the anvil.

Shoe&nail puller he tossed the iron for it

@@jimhice7485 Looks more like a hoof tester.

All Woodrow would of had of done was ask a few questions to them. & he'd find out that they'd been hassling Dish trying to get him to sell them his horse. I think he would've been more madder towards them.

ever see it on blue ray, it's like seeing it for the first time again

The music now with good sound equipment is moving

I agree. I also like how after he says, "I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it". He tips he hat to the women and the families.

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One time in an interview on The Late Show Robert Duvall said that friends had given him a collection of pictures depicting several scenes from 'Lonesome Dove', his favorite role, and that the pictures are displayed throughout his house.

I've also read that Tomorrow (1972, same year as The Godfather) was one of his personal favorites. And it is an excellent performance in a little known film. But Lonesome Dove is my favorite.

@@brucedelaplain7138 Me too, it's perfect, even the music gets to me - every time!

@Sam LaVerne I haven't heard Politeness Man referenced in years! Hilarious. Also Stern stole his Farman bit from a National Lampoon magazine piece and as far as I remember never credited it to National Lampoon. Douchebag.

Fartman that is.

Attended Junior & Senior High School with the " surly Bartender ". Nice fellow & dedicated actor.

That's my favorite scene I especially like when Woodrow calmly backs up because he knows Gus is going to kick that surly sobs ass

Whackin' a surly bartender ain't much of a crime.

Good one and a great scene.

"Here's to the sunny slopes of long ago..."

If you had read the book you would understand that this was the first time Woodrow had started to accept the fact that Newt was his son. Woodrow would never admit it anywhere in the books, however he did place Newt in charge in his absence later on. Pea likened this as Woodrow’s treating Newt like family. The books give you a more complete picture of the motivations of each character.

Dwight Smith yWow really? Thanks

Inded

Great scene, but the bartender's "dawdling service" is the best

'Comanche Moon' was filmed as close to the book as possible. Problem caused failure of film, the PC crowd tossed the very best parts, the true action, as recorded in diaries of survivors, all went into the trash. The real life action, the brutal rapes, tortures, maimings, slaughters, flew in the face of the narrative they are pursuing of 'The Noble Native American'... Worked background for several weeks, set south of Santa Fe NM..

@@blogengeezer4507 Yes, Blue Duck was a beastly character right to the end, also in Lonesome Dove.

😐😐😐 The US cavalry

Evidently, lots of people haven't gotten the message.

I hate when morons repeat lines in movies 🙄

@@sweetjrewing5435 U R a numb Knutz

I like to kick a pig from time to time!

One of the few TV movies that was as good as or better than the book!

"If you want to think something,why don't you think the roof back up on that barn,instead of sittin'in the shade all day?"

I love how he gives it a little waggle first to make sure it’s up to the job🤣

So many good scenes- my personal favourite is when gus informs blue duck that Coll will be back shortly “you can wait over in the shade- if you’re able once me and you get through “👍

Only way to fight why bust your knuckles on his head

Seems he forgot he was armed but I suppose if anyone else cleared leather he would have remembered real quick.

He didn't to bloody his nice outfit.

That's right they won"t tolerate dawdling service ice or rude behavior. They also expect some respect.

What an idiotic comment.

King is a putz! A W.E.F. teet sucking putz!!

Well if they had made The Dark Tower a 10 hour mini series it would have been good

T.L.J. had been a Rodeo Participator.

There are a set of two VHS tapes you can buy (back in the day) for an old VCR, this is how I saw the whole 16 hour lonesome dove move in one day, back in 1991.

They say it’s a cattleman’s paradise.

@@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 He was born in the only city in Texas with a suspension bridge and was Al Gore’s roommate in college.

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 Too bad about Gore for roommate. A dirty job but somebody had to do it.

I think Woodrow holding Gus's head when he's just a corpse and almost got lost in the river. That summed up their relationship right there.

Duvall in Open Range and Broken Trail are 2 more excellent performances in western movies.

Best moment of that scene, the threat has been removed Enter Gus, "Woodrow! It's me! It's me! It's me Augustus!" Tommy Lee takes in the moment then emotionally lands, like superman after a titan battle in the sky. He becomes a regular guy for short time to check on his son. Gus tells the army to, "take up your man and go." while Woodrow ascends to his position as the atlas of the story. I think it was brilliantly played.

That wasn’t a fight scene. That was a, “beat em till he’s dead,” scene. It’s been years since I’ve seen the series so I don’t remember much, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did die after being plowed like that.

@@GreatOldOne9866 its a film he wont be dead...

@@PeteWMCD he’d be dead if they wrote it that way.

Except now days the law would hold your arms as this A$$bucket kicked you in the balls!

@@63bplumb I guess I don't understand stand what your saying

@Gideons Word you sir need to educate yourself. The cops didn't charge them. all cops do is to detain the suspect. Not charge

A switch is flicked, and Call goes into destruction mode, seeing red, where nothing but achieving death will stop him, or being clubbed to his senses by McCrae; Call regains his composure and offers a humble but firm explanation of his actions and ethics. An excellent scene; one of the best filmed.

We need a few Captain Woodrows to kick Trump's ass back to Mother Russia.

@@davidhoward437 Are you angry at Trump because he won't let you burn and loot and murder across America? Liberals=Domestic terrorists

David Howard 👈🏻Well we found the triggered pussy.

@@civilization57 Why aren't you angry with Trump? He is a delusional coward who has let Americans die needlessly from the CoronaVirus. He is a frightened man child who lies and needs constant praise and reassurance. He is nothing like the characters in this drama. He is probably afraid of horses, too.

@@davidhoward437 As bad ass as Capt. Woodrow is , I like how you said it would take a few of him to kick Trump's ass . Hahaha .

The war? They were Texas Rangers during the Civil War. Do you mean the war against the Indians?

@Louise Sawyer it's like a familiar friend that makes you feel better by the time they leave.

@Hello David how are you doing

One of the first comments on this thread which actually understands that Call oversteps his mark here just as much as the cavalry officers, thank you 🙏

I taped every episode and still have them on VHS tapes.My Dad Loved this Western.

​@@markallen6818Same

Yep, less tolerance of trump.

Ok boomer.

@@guswilliams9603 Go sick another dick millennial.

@@davemaxa5263 Yep, don't tolerate the weak little Trumpet. He is a snowflake. Draft dodger too.

Unless you're using satire, I'm afraid you completely missed the point of Woodrow's anger. Woodrow is the "tolerant, sensitive" person you are mocking. He is angry at the injustice and oppression of someone who couldn't defend himself. Woodrow is the not at all unlike the protesters and other advocates of today who may go too far in their protest like Woodrow would have, but do so because of their love for their fellow man who is being quashed under unjust authority and or other abuse. Real men stick up for those who can't stick up for themselves. Real men are sensitive even if they are rough on the outside. "Tolerance" is a tricky word because everyone is intolerant of something. I agree that "tolerance" has been cheapened a bit in our country because it has become a push to accept and celebrate everyone's choices, however wrong they might be. But that doesn't make "intolerance" a virtue. Intolerance is pretty despicable in a man. Intolerance is exactly what's making Woodrow angry. And in case you care about this, intolerance makes God pretty angry too. As recorded in the Bible, his harshest words are always for people with wealth, fame, or authority mistreating those under them.

yeah, that will give you nightmares, those da mn snakes.

He was made for Westerns and this was one of His Best.

Make a great bumper sticker

Woodrow has always been my favorite Lonesome Dove character. James Garner also did a good job in the role.

@@porflepopnecker4376 , I've always been partial to Gus McCrea because of the soft spot in my heart for the womenfolk. ;) Garner played a great Call.

@@libertyforever4270 Gus is a lot of fun to me and it's easy to understand his wider appeal, but I identify with Woodrow and consider him a much more complicated and interesting character.

@@porflepopnecker4376 , That is true. To me Call is introverted emotionally whereas Gus wears his heart on his sleeve. Both are powerful characters, no doubt.

Woodrow did claim Newt at the end of the second Lonesome Dove miniseries

"Yes sir".

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How young were your kids, when you watched? Did you have toexplain what Laurie was doing....or what a "poke" was, to them?

@@jason60chev Lucky for me they’re old enough to watch it but yes I did have to explain it to them I simply said that back in those days women needed to do whatever they could to survive and sometimes they made money by having sex or a “poke”. I also said to my daughters that they’re lucky to live today and that they have parents who love them and would do anything for them. I was 5 myself when I first saw this show and I didn’t care what Lori was doing I worked it out years later lol.

I’ve never read the book, but one thing that has struck me over the years is that Jake was also a captain in the rangers. However, while people know Woodrow and Gus as RANGERS, they only know Jake as their friend.