Matt: I think the Cayman is the best "sports car" for the $ anywhere. S, GTS, GT4, GT4-RS Your will go down, but when Porsche goes hybrid or EV. Then, everyone will want what they can't have. As you said, "I am keeping the car and tracking it." Enjoy every time you drive it. The downturn is just the buyers that got the allocation and never wanted to keep it anyway.

Wow ! Liked and subscribed … total gear head and started going to the track at 23..currently 52..have several things in common with you… but I’m in Canada! Grew up in a restaurant but didn’t have a dad so my love for cars started with matchbox… have currently have 4 Porsche cars ..and others like you have had and owned but in my case haven’t sold .. started at track in my first Porsche with 911 1970 the bought another 911 1977 ..then wrx sti that I turned into a race car …then bought first generation corvette C6 zr1 ..then like you because dream car poster on my wall growing up was 911 turbo .. bought 1997 Porsche turbo (and agree with you although not the same year as yours wasn’t a good track car) then like you bought Nissan GT-R 2014 black edition..in my case never did launch control only track… then believe it or not bought a 2018 GT2RS yes a Porsche GT2RS…incredible track car and even better when you run Hoosiers on it ..changed mags for 19 inch all around..current track tool..then or now better said my local track has a 92 decibels limit grrrr! The GT2RS in going to pick up my kid at school mode fails and black flag ! Sucks balls! So just bought another Nisan GTR this one is a 2017 track edition.. and bless me no decibel black flag last summer…never got into golf lol … spent my time making money to buy farm…why? For the barns!!! Not a farmer I rent the land… but have a big enough garage for all cars mentioned above.. still have all of them and also store my sister’s 2 Porsche gt4’s …when I got the chance to buy GT2RS was looking at the mclaren 720s ..but chose the Porsche…glad I did ! See other track members with mclarens and reliability seems like an issue… thanks for your videos and you have great taste in cars!! Currently a cook so moved up from dishwasher in my beginnings.. joke aside being a cook was the way I made enough money to buy first 911 …then got into IT ..before KZfaq existed most people didn’t believe in IT …how wrong they were… Thanks again!

It is a good day! Chiming in from Park City, Utah. My GT4RS was delivered at the end of September. I couldn't agree with you more about holding on to the 4RS. It is a special car, never one before and probably never another. If you remember on the Carrera GT it went down in value around '09-'12 and has since skyrocketed in value. I know the 4RS is not a Carrera GT, but it will be a legend in Porsche Lore down the road 10 to 15 years when everything is a quite, sedate, EV. I think the 4RS drop in price is just a sentiment or a barometer of the overall economy and a little too much speculation on the initial ADM to get into one of these cars...

I ordered my 2022 Cayman GTS at the peak market. And I don’t ever intend to sell and that right there is a huge value.

As usual bought mine at MSRP. Absolutely love it, one of my favorite Porsches ever. Highly recommend anyone getting one if price is right, it’s a crazy good car that makes you laugh every time you drive it. In the bigger picture, Porsche needs to do a better job of weeding some of these serial flippers from getting allocations.

Tough decision.m on a fantastic car. Great video

Bought my GT4RS PTS Riviera Blue, Weissach package, PCCB and mag wheels at MSRP. One of the best Porsche purchases in my life. GT4RS is a sheer great car.

Is winter affecting purchasing decisions resulting in cars remaining stagnant at dealer lots? Will that change as better seasons for driving approaches ?

Its such a rough pick. I think its because for the same money you can get a GT3... I know its not as special but the 911 body is just THAT famous. I cant talk from experience because I havent driven a GT4RS but coming from a GT4 into a GT3, its definitely a good different experience. Which might just explain why the "demand" is so low when it comes to the 4RS second hand. Either way, I think when it hits the right price, people might start jumping into them.

My local dealer has that one guy who they sell to for MSRP cause he get the latest GT car and as soon as the next one comes out he trades it back in for his next order. Sure they have a loyal customer, but he takes up every first allocation and no one else can even get one unless you want to buy his used spec. On his GT3 RS that hes going to trade back is us Python Green with Red decals so I hope the next buyer likes Christmas all year.

i have my money ready love to see them at 200

Thinking about buying a Carrera T or GTS. Any rumors on price drops or removing ADM's?

Wonderful car, worth whatever you put into it. All cars are faltering

Hi Matt, I am going to pick up my gt4 rs next month. Is 40-50k above msrp reasonable nowaday?

I am actually shocked that GT4RS prices are so soft, for years cayman fans were crying rivers for a good engine and cars are available. Epic engine, short PDK , unique sound , what else?

Hmmm.. 4RS's dropping? It's all relative. What was the sticker price on these cars? Base price is about 145K plus options. So these cars are probably 175-180K sticker cars you are looking at. So at 230K these cars are still being sold way above retail even after they have miles on them. And you can bet they are getting their ADM's back. So yes, not a 100K over but a very nice return. They will continue drop until production stops which is about now. Then they will stay flat for a year or so. They should start the slow increase again 5-8 years later. I am using the 997.2 RS's as a rough guide. By the time they were 10 years old they were 100k over. Whether this is that car or not remains to be seen.

Of course you will lose money if you pay over msrp. Andreas, the chief of Porsche GT keeps saying these are NOT limited production cars. Most are selling at MSRP to their preferred customers. If you couldn't wait and had to be one of the first owners, you paid over msrp. In Europe, Porsche GT car prices are already plummeting.

What were the specs on your car when you bought it?

Demuro is nutz ...

4:51 statement of the year! 👍

And dropping every week... Hopefully they get below MSRP

In 10 years they will worth at least half a million

226,000 dollars for a Cayman ! Albeit very special but to also learn prices are going down but it’s not surprising given they were selling for 100,000 above sticker price and I lost my car to a guy who paid 250,000 euros for technically my car !! He gazumped me or outbid me but I was not paying a quarter of a million for a Cayman plain and simple .

At the end of the day it’s still a cayman and like it or not the GT3 still has a prestige over them so they will drop hard especially for the flippers who financed 80% and need to fire sale it to get out

Meh. It's still a Cayman. 911 GT3 RS over this ANY day of the week.