Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick" mit Stéphane Ortelli in Spa Francorchamps

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13 жыл бұрын

www.motorsportvideo.tv Chassis 935-007 aufgebaut von Freisinger Motorsport mit Originalteilen, Motor und Getriebe wurden früher in 935-006 genutzt.
Beim Rennen der Classic Endurance in Spa Francorchamps fährt Stephane Ortelli das Fahrzeug.

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@josephwiemert6290
@josephwiemert6290 8 жыл бұрын
let's all get off our soap boxes and just appreciate whoever uploaded this video and gave us the opportunity to hear this car dashboard view without any stupid trance music going on
@edwardyazinski3858
@edwardyazinski3858 3 ай бұрын
Yep
@ThisMayContainNuts
@ThisMayContainNuts 11 жыл бұрын
This car really is something special.. I also adore the looks of it. So it's nice to have an extremely detailed model of it in 1:18 scale. I could just sit and stare at it for hours!
@madonion48
@madonion48 9 жыл бұрын
This car pulls seriously. I love how it sounds when it accelerates at the exit of the curve.
@marcrichardson8011
@marcrichardson8011 9 жыл бұрын
To all the idiots commenting that he's "pussyfooting" around behind the wheel, this is a Type 935/78 of which exactly ONE exists in the entire world. All others are replicas. It's priceless and irreplaceable. He would be an absolute idiot if he trashed the car screwing around in a meaningless historics race. By the way, Ortelli has won LeMans with Porsche in 1998 driving the GT1 and he also won Sebring.
@spkprobe2
@spkprobe2 9 жыл бұрын
Marc Richardson agree, the car is priceless and ! You dont take anything to the race track unless you can throw it away, number one rule in racing , plus it's Spa, the only risk is actually passing a much slower 512BB on anyone of the ridiculously long straights... Too much to ask? another reason why some historic racing is BS, better to display the cars and take pictures, this is Akin to watching 60 yr old Olympians run the 100M in 12 seconds ..
@markjurczyk
@markjurczyk 8 жыл бұрын
+Marc Richardson Relax skippy, they are more of this cars out there, he drove like a pussy , that's all ! Next time don't enter the race !
@993isgawd
@993isgawd 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark J Um...no. Porsche only built two 935/78s. One was a developmental mule, the other was this car, the only one to see actual competition. It only saw four races during its day, winning once, then was promptly retired and stored away in Porsche's own collection. For all intent and purposes, this is the only one of its kind, factory-built and to see action on the race track. If you don't think the folks who own this car cautioned the driver to take it easy, then you don't know just how precious Porsche regards their own history. It may make for boring watching, but then historic races are primarily about the cars, their history, the heritage and NOT about actual in-the-moment competition. Because in the end, few will ever remember who actually won this race.
@spkprobe2
@spkprobe2 8 жыл бұрын
+993isgawd Leave it in the museum , cant damage Miss precious there .....
@procioneintubato
@procioneintubato 8 жыл бұрын
Some people are just too thick to grasp even this basic concept, but thank you for trying anyway.
@auz17
@auz17 5 жыл бұрын
This beauty was meant to rule the straights. I loved the way he was barely pushing her and still caught up with the Ferrari 512 everytime. 😁😁
@WickedTRX
@WickedTRX 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of desktop racers, complaining that Ortelli isn't pushing. watch the dial "Benzindruck" second from the left, it's fuel pressure, it's clear that there's a serious fuel delivery problem at high engine loads, something that's lethal to any engine.
@x0druid0x
@x0druid0x 8 жыл бұрын
yeah its like one of the fuel pumps is giving up the ghost under high boost, but yeah defiantly not good at all.
@x0druid0x
@x0druid0x 8 жыл бұрын
u can also see the O2 sensor readout above the wheel going lean
@azynkron
@azynkron 7 жыл бұрын
Well.. it's not lethal. It just stops. Cooling or oil pressure on the other hand damages the engine if they fail.
@spkprobe2
@spkprobe2 7 жыл бұрын
In watching it again , i do agree he had an issue, not engine , prior to slowing the car pushed out way pass the apex, twice , i guess he slowed due to an issue .... My apologies Ortelli ....
@BandanaBoris
@BandanaBoris 7 жыл бұрын
pushing out of the apex is what the 935 excelled at. Took a very different approach of driving to move those beasts fast.
@McLarenF1God
@McLarenF1God 11 жыл бұрын
Old race cars are so fantastic. Love this stuff so much.
@HerrFrederik
@HerrFrederik 10 жыл бұрын
The driver is Stephane Ortelli... Winner of the Spa 24h. He won in a GT2 porsche against GT1 Ferrari's and Vipers... If you are a better driver and can show me a video where you win Le Mans or Daytona or an F1 race. You can call him shit if you want to... if not. Think before you write something ;-)
@stevenanderson4623
@stevenanderson4623 9 жыл бұрын
Trust you'll approve of my comment above,just now??
@GTfour01
@GTfour01 9 жыл бұрын
Also won Le Mans 1998, with the factory Porsche 911 GT1-98. Just saying...
@markbojanjac6805
@markbojanjac6805 6 жыл бұрын
Its an understeering pig which makes the track look too small for it. Suspect tyres. That said, he still lacks rhythm with it here.
@6Ravenshade6
@6Ravenshade6 6 жыл бұрын
he knows what is he doing.. he does not want to break the car in the first two laps
@Inazuma68
@Inazuma68 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbojanjac6805 no it is low fuel pressure at higher revs
@toml.1408
@toml.1408 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Riverside Raceway on April 24, 1983, and saw Rolf Stommelen in a Porsche 935 "Moby Dick" car. I actually took a photo of him from my position in the infield. Later in the race, while I was in the "S's" I saw a huge dirt cloud in turn 9. Such a tragic loss. Someone was compelled to put a K-rail concrete block at the end of the back straight runoff. Mr. Stommelen died on impact. A very sad human tragedy.
@andrewpolasek5524
@andrewpolasek5524 Жыл бұрын
I remember Rolf winning the Datona 24 hours in one of these cars. That's the type of track the 935 dominated, the closing speed on other cars was just ridiculous.
@cvtt3194
@cvtt3194 7 жыл бұрын
When the turbo spools, the acceleration is insane. Great video! What a machine!
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 11 жыл бұрын
Ortelli seems willingly caring about the car which is an icon in its racing class,and I guess has quite a high rating as a vintage sport classic.His awareness deserves full back up.The BB driver is evidently willing to risk his car and its mechanics as well: we can see him daring and nearly loosing it on the curbs and possibly over...That's the only reason for a 935 to be overtaken by a BB: there would have been no story in actual racing.
@DavilaSombre
@DavilaSombre 5 жыл бұрын
It's so great too see, how people... motorsport enthusiasts, keep those historic classic sports cars in good shape and technical condition.
@derrickgreen9020
@derrickgreen9020 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the Silverstone pits when Norbert Singer pulled back the blue tarpaulin off to reveal this for the first time ....breathtaking. There must have been only 20 of us standing round it taking photos. Now these cars are all a cult thing.
@Eratosthenes0815
@Eratosthenes0815 5 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how much I love the 935/78! - It's one (of two) of the cars of my life. It's wonderful to see that cars like this still are driven in a way they are built for... - Just wonderful!
@Quadrant14
@Quadrant14 9 жыл бұрын
Poor Stefan considering this is a Factory 935 he had to dry it conservatively and not wreck it, he could have gone faster and harder but such a rare beast as this needs care
@stevenanderson4623
@stevenanderson4623 9 жыл бұрын
Why's he Piloting it then? Use it as intended for goodness sake-Pussyfooting!!! He dropped 6 spots in less than 1/3rd of lap!!!
@Quadrant14
@Quadrant14 9 жыл бұрын
Steven Anderson a Museum car must be handled carefully I see your point though.
@Notfast86
@Notfast86 7 жыл бұрын
I love the drivers pov view. great footage!
@emilwestgaardhenriksen1715
@emilwestgaardhenriksen1715 8 жыл бұрын
most beautiful car in the wordl!
@Grunzaa
@Grunzaa 12 жыл бұрын
amazing car great video. Huge props for having this car on display
@motorsportvideo
@motorsportvideo 11 жыл бұрын
Porsche selbst hatte zwei Chassis des Moby Dick gebaut, eines hat Porsche im Museum, das andere ist hier im Video zu sehen. Das Joest Team hat mit den Originalplänen des 935/78 in 1981 zwei Fahrzeuge gebaut, aber ohne die wassergekühlten Vierventil-zylinderköpfe. Auf Fahrzeug 935.81 JR-2 - im Besitz von John Fitzpatrick - fuhr Rolf Stommelen.
@2stroke4me
@2stroke4me 13 жыл бұрын
Unique footage from the most iconic race car Porsche has ever made with a 911 shell! Thank you so much for uploading this, i really enjoyed it!!
@tomzeus2969
@tomzeus2969 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting....have to laugh at comments from people that have obviously never driven a car of that stature, horsepower and notoriety...Stephane needed time to get comfortable in car...he didn't have anything to prove, he was playing it safe. I've seen a few of those one of a kind cars wadded up because the driver was half the talent and experience of Stephane but needed to prove how fast they were...its a different ball game when you're behind the wheel.
@ElTyranto
@ElTyranto 12 жыл бұрын
A beautiful piece of history
@SunnySunGER
@SunnySunGER 12 жыл бұрын
Zum niederknien, eine echte perle des motorsports. Awesome
@LarryLinton
@LarryLinton 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing car..amazing video. Having a spool diff would explain alot for its handling characteristics. What a pleasure it must be to drive that car round Spa. Stephan Ortelli = Class act !
@drumminham
@drumminham 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, thanks for sharing!!
@9466Frank
@9466Frank 9 жыл бұрын
Sehr geiles Video, auch mit dem super seltenen Ferrari 512BB LM der da eine Zeit lang vorne her fährt....
@bluesky6361
@bluesky6361 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful car. Absolutely stunning. Puts to shame all of the computers on wheels that pass as F1 and prototype sports cars today.
@superfast30
@superfast30 12 жыл бұрын
The car is an animal. My all time favourite Porsche!
@chris1980x
@chris1980x 12 жыл бұрын
beautiful cars at a beautiful track :)
@ROSMEN1982
@ROSMEN1982 12 жыл бұрын
¡Amazing driver! Impressive battle with the Ferrari... Thanks for real moments of competition :)
@2stroke4me
@2stroke4me 12 жыл бұрын
Moby Dick has a spool, making it understeer like crazy on cold tires. However, it was designed for the Le Mans, not for twisty tracks. Moby Dick wasn't a very successful racer and it looks like mr. Ortelli isn't trying to win a race here, he's obviousely trying to keep an extremely rare 800+ bhp monster in one piece while enjoying driving Moby Dick. Rare footage of an extraordinary Porsche, thumbs up!
@wenarlin
@wenarlin 11 жыл бұрын
Very nice heel-and-toe sound
@freedman917
@freedman917 11 жыл бұрын
Moby Dick was the fastest 935 at Le Mans by a coiuntry mile, qualifying 3rd, slower only than one of the factory 936's and an Alpine. It finished 8th as it encounetred problems on the way. On sheer pace it could have won outright. the car only ever raced 4 times and was very fast on every occasion. Winning by 7 laps at Silverstone
@johnsmith-kz2jz
@johnsmith-kz2jz 12 жыл бұрын
yeah the master of sport cars he is a great drive he got the pure natural racing instinct.
@ivanmcallister8546
@ivanmcallister8546 Жыл бұрын
They were the best , ever days . End of !
@Muadib223
@Muadib223 12 жыл бұрын
Considering that this is video of a historical event with multiple classes represented, I don't think the driver wanted to bend a priceless piece of racing history.
@speedrichcacophonia6733
@speedrichcacophonia6733 3 жыл бұрын
He might been overtaken many times ... but he is driving the most spectacular car of all of them :-)
@rikbalbin
@rikbalbin 12 жыл бұрын
wow..great video....love it!
@sei750
@sei750 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks!!!!!!
@razrX
@razrX 11 жыл бұрын
This car is a monster!!!
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 11 жыл бұрын
old cars from this period are nuts
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 11 жыл бұрын
the closing speed of the twin turbo 911 on that boxer ferrari is unreal, when it hits boost.
@Plexxer23
@Plexxer23 11 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für die Informationen !! :-)
@MPZRACEVIDEO
@MPZRACEVIDEO 13 жыл бұрын
Geniale Startsequenz...
@diogosousacarvalho
@diogosousacarvalho 5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous!!!
@Maart3nSl3g3rs
@Maart3nSl3g3rs 11 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I love motorsporst!
@DolleHengst
@DolleHengst 9 жыл бұрын
He treats this classic with very much respect. But it's toe-curling to see that he only uses 50% of the car's power and deliberately doesn't overtake, as to prevent contact with another car
@justin_fajardo
@justin_fajardo 9 жыл бұрын
This car is priceless. He is going to drive with EXTREME CARE. I was at Laguna Seca at the Historics once and on the first lap, two rare BMW's crashed into a rare corvette. Then, a rare BMW had an engine failure. First lap and four classic cars ruined.
@nascarturnsleft
@nascarturnsleft 9 жыл бұрын
I feel for the driver, I would be frustrated if I was him. These cars were meant to be raced, its strange to see them being driven like this :/
@raoulduke806
@raoulduke806 6 жыл бұрын
the legend became cursed because of itself, it wont be driven as it should because of his priceless value
@dino6888
@dino6888 8 жыл бұрын
Must be just a beast to keep on the road at speed..Guy looks like he's struggling
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 11 жыл бұрын
the closing speed of the 911 on the ferrari 512 is mind bending on the straights, and braking .
@jandri2
@jandri2 13 жыл бұрын
@Klodust Thanks for the reply but i ment speed like km/h , not engine speed (rpm). These used to make their max hp around 8000rpm.
@andychicago8295
@andychicago8295 2 жыл бұрын
Herrliches Auto und Strecke.
@derrickgreen9020
@derrickgreen9020 3 жыл бұрын
I was there at Silverstone when Norbert Singer himself removed the blue tarpaulin to unveil this beauty for the first time in the pits....now it’s a cult car!...where have those years gone🙄?
@cesarefiderio1634
@cesarefiderio1634 7 ай бұрын
❤😊DEGNA DI QUESTO PSEUDONIMO, PERCHÉ IMBATTIBILE E IRRAGGIUNGIBILE .COME LA GRANDE E ...MITICA BALENA!!!😊❤.
@etiennegalea
@etiennegalea 12 жыл бұрын
I used to love driving this car in the NFS Porsche Edition
@hogan326
@hogan326 6 жыл бұрын
Me too ha ha
@jandri2
@jandri2 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video. Do you know the max speed it reached in this video ?
@MaliVinnyB
@MaliVinnyB 3 жыл бұрын
The 512bblm put up a Great fight...
@Stokovsky
@Stokovsky 11 жыл бұрын
This car was designed for le-mans and they are really rare, that is the reason why was he so slowly, otherwise he would be in the top.
@robertolemos5140
@robertolemos5140 5 жыл бұрын
Mi porche favorito
@richardwidenhouse5979
@richardwidenhouse5979 Ай бұрын
When those turbos kick in
@majom89
@majom89 12 жыл бұрын
what a nice looking car. but I'm curious, what does the second gauge from the left show? That one which drops when the rpm is near to the maximum...
@jinxed_jinxed_3443
@jinxed_jinxed_3443 7 жыл бұрын
Great :) thanks
@gecko36a
@gecko36a 3 жыл бұрын
IT WAS TIMED ON THE MULSANNE STRAIGHT AT 228 MPH WHAT A BEAST..
@priitmolder6475
@priitmolder6475 10 жыл бұрын
I friggin love this car in nfs porche. Drifting it through the corners is so much fun!!! Here, considering this is the only 935/78 moby dick made by porche left, I wont judge the driver too much. You can see, it monsters all on the straight...too bad they wont let the driver race this beast...
@stevenanderson4623
@stevenanderson4623 9 жыл бұрын
If not to be driven on it's limit n in Anger,then Mothball it! What a shame for it not to be leaving all in it's Wake.....Come on people let Moby 'vent' !!
@tilentgamer8758
@tilentgamer8758 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shiet My favorite porsche in my favorite track u must be kidding
@mwyatt222
@mwyatt222 5 жыл бұрын
I had the US street version brand spankin' new. The turbo boost knob in the center of the console was a nice(ridiculous) feature. The lack of radio was a bummer. I paid 12.5k for the US legal exhaust. Good times.
@carbonfiber1995
@carbonfiber1995 13 жыл бұрын
@DJTRANCE2011 Thats true it has a topspeed of 230+ mph
@motorsportvideo
@motorsportvideo 13 жыл бұрын
most tracks are driven clockwise, better balance when the driver seat is on the right side.
@tscooter22
@tscooter22 6 жыл бұрын
When I see a Porsche like this going through Eau Rouge it reminds me of Stefan Bellof's fatal crash. R.I.P.
@mauricenichol1303
@mauricenichol1303 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Rizlafilm
@Rizlafilm 10 жыл бұрын
Fabulous......
@motorsportvideo
@motorsportvideo 11 жыл бұрын
glaube nicht, daß man ausgerechnet Stephane Ortelli die Einlenkpunkte erklären muß. Das Fahrzeug ist zum ersten Mal im Rennen unterwegs, Ortelli fährt den Wagen zum ersten Mal und das Fahrzeug hat starren Durchtrieb.
@kb930t
@kb930t 11 жыл бұрын
What a amazing car ,i bought a 930 because of this car,i also would have drove it like that,how do u replace it if crashed....
@sensualeye
@sensualeye 5 жыл бұрын
This is vintage racing or exhibition racing aka fast parade laps. Enjoy the cars and the show, quit commenting they’re not driving quick enough. 🙂
@anni-florenceberger7231
@anni-florenceberger7231 5 жыл бұрын
La passion s'est les jantes rouge. Tu aimes toi ? 2019 😁 😌 💓
@stelamo
@stelamo 13 жыл бұрын
@motorsportvideo thx for that i thought it was a modded Lancia Delta S4 lol :P
@papawoody9597
@papawoody9597 9 ай бұрын
What a fantastic car, the embodiment of obeying the letter of the law, while utterly ignoring the spirit.
@superbrit3845
@superbrit3845 5 жыл бұрын
Old school lag, old school Turbo technology, fooking brilliant...............
@PeterPretorius-
@PeterPretorius- 12 жыл бұрын
Tolles Geschoss. Ein Zeuge aus Zeiten wo in Le Mans die Mulsane Gerade noch nicht durch Schikanen versaut und "entmannt" wurde. Rolf Stommelen - ein heutzutage leider nur noch wenigen Motorsportfans bekannter Rennfahrer der siebziger Jahre - fuhr diesen Boliden auch.
@anngo4140
@anngo4140 6 жыл бұрын
love this thing in NFS Porsche Unleashed
@nickybaggadonuts
@nickybaggadonuts 7 жыл бұрын
The car is really quiet compared to all the other v12s on the track
@MrPorsche91730
@MrPorsche91730 13 жыл бұрын
does anybody know what that red car was at the end?
@Plexxer23
@Plexxer23 11 жыл бұрын
In so einem Porsche-Umbau ist doch Rolf Stommelen am 24.04.83 in Riverside tödlich verunglückt (Der Heckflügen ist gebrochen wenige Runden nach einem Ausrutscher auf den Seitenstreifen, bei dem wie gemutmaßt wird der Heckflügel angeknackst wurde und das Auto plötzlich nicht mehr so richtig auf der Stecke lag...) Bin erst knapp 30 aber finde Stommelen toll, leider konnte ich Ihn nicht live sehen ist ja leider in meinem Geburtsjahr gestorben.... Tolles Auto, einfach ein geiler Sound !!
@Trackstar2211
@Trackstar2211 12 жыл бұрын
Respond to this video... I don't know if there is a problem with this car. Stephane Ortelli is a very good driver and won a lot of races. Maybe you are right that he is just taking his time and nothing else.
@maurirossi
@maurirossi 10 жыл бұрын
The car fantastic. The driver to shy for the 935.
@motorsportvideo
@motorsportvideo 12 жыл бұрын
Moby Dick will start at the Le Mans Classic this weekend.
@loicdore39
@loicdore39 4 жыл бұрын
It Seriously understeer !!
@anni-florenceberger7231
@anni-florenceberger7231 5 жыл бұрын
Les jantes rouge ça ♥ j'aime
@TheCasiemir
@TheCasiemir 11 жыл бұрын
i agree, this car is not build for the track. I think the driver drives careful, not on the limit with this million $ worth car.
@anni-florenceberger7231
@anni-florenceberger7231 5 жыл бұрын
Les formes sont très variée des jantes. Met un peu de couleur dans ta life du rouge par exemple. Un passion is fuego. 👍 😁
@apenkoppen
@apenkoppen 11 жыл бұрын
I loved this car in Need for Speed.
@leonardpelger
@leonardpelger 5 жыл бұрын
This is the real Batmobil!
@CarspottingBrasil
@CarspottingBrasil 2 жыл бұрын
Question: are those replicas or the original cars?
@dutchm4n11
@dutchm4n11 12 жыл бұрын
@sonicstep i'm aware that this car was ahead of its time as you say but i meant that the setting on that wasn't suitable for this track..i didn't mean to offent the car in any way....!! :D
@Porsche917Longtail
@Porsche917Longtail 13 жыл бұрын
Stephane Ortelli Lucky man !!!
@dutchm4n11
@dutchm4n11 12 жыл бұрын
well the car seems to work fine and the driver also seems to be experienced..!I think the setup in the front is a bi wrong or maybe some downforce issues...!!!but as everybody saying it looks and sounds great...!!!
@Pholous
@Pholous 11 жыл бұрын
It's clearly an M1. You can see the BMW-badges right beneath the back wing at 1:11. (at the left AND right side)
@MrPorsche91730
@MrPorsche91730 13 жыл бұрын
@motorsportvideo Oh ok thanks man, I thaught it was a ferrari. Is it just me, or did anyone notice the driver in the Porsche was really trying to make sure the ferrari did not beat the Porsche, he might of been able to keep it behind if he did not overshoot the turn at 8:35.Great video though man. Thanks for not putting some gino beat with this . Its nice to see that not everyone out there is an idiot
@frontdesk123
@frontdesk123 12 жыл бұрын
what brand are those orange wheels?
@Baubauzable
@Baubauzable 11 жыл бұрын
U guys that argue about that car, can't even know how difficult can be to keep that monster on the road.
@josephwiemert6290
@josephwiemert6290 8 жыл бұрын
this example has one of the nicest sounding Wales of any Turbo Porsche or really any 6 cylinder and general I would say BMWs and Nissan straight six would come second but then again a straight-6 is very distinctive and I don't think it would even come close to as sounding as good as some of Porsches best flat sixes especially them being turbocharged and having a high RPM when you see most turbo cars nowadays are muted and of course that usually is the case when they're street legal
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