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PORSCHE 986 CALIPER UPGRADE #4 - FINAL PREP + INSTALL
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Күн бұрын#HONEDDEVELOPMENTS #PORSCHE986 #EF #EF9 #SAVETHEEFS
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Honed developments here - honeddevelopme...
They list everything you need to get this done for your civic / integra
My wheels are a 15 x 6.5 +40 I’m using a 20mm spacer - with a 205/50 tire upper control arms are stock
Porsche caliper part #’s are
986.351.421
986.351.422
Pads are from Centric part #
10407370
Mini Cooper rotors are from Centric part #
125.34092
You can do this without breaking the bank hope this help you guys out thanks for the support and catch you on the next one !
@justintowers8230 2 ай бұрын
eww porshe logo. shoulda just bought the brembo vinyl stickers.....
@victorsgarage5814 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@justintowers8230 Ай бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 what material is the honed bracket? 6061 alloy??
@myc0p 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video and the parts # listing!
@victorsgarage5814 9 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@iantdunne4094 Жыл бұрын
Savage video buddy and i love the colour, Lets hope some of the same parts match up to my MK1 Golf. The mini disc is a great point
@FFdextrous 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brotha for this informational video! Going to be doing this to my EK!
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I can help out good luck 👍🏽
@madmouseism 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks like the base model Mini rotor (280mm) and I think you can fit the JCW model rotors (294mm) with those calipers
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
You’re correct as far as i know I double checked everything from honed as far as part numbers needed etc , and ordered accordingly I got centric part #125.34092 and those are listed as the 294mm rotor which should put me at roughly 11.5 inches so thanks because I never really thought about it until now.
@elpichito3 2 жыл бұрын
Please upload the refresh video. i want to learn the correct way to replace seals
@RoZGrL93 3 жыл бұрын
That’s some beautiful looking shit right there
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
👌🏽
@AutomotiveAnatomy 3 жыл бұрын
So so tight lol great color combo 🎉👌
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support man I appreciate it big time !
@oldskool1979 3 жыл бұрын
Thats cool.. I need to make a video of my 1991 civic si... havent driven it since 2011 lol
@elbbqsr1450 2 жыл бұрын
just saw this thank you so much
@mauri3591 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a test drive with the new brake set up and show is the stopping power difference?
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man, I’ll try to squeeze it in next time I take the car out thanks for the support
@scotten34 Жыл бұрын
So cool❤
@Vkandypaint 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a ef also! Just subscribed 👌
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 👍🏽
@crypto-surg1750 Жыл бұрын
Hello where do you purchase the Porsche sticker if you could leave a link I would really appreciate it
@anthonyhalwagy6498 2 жыл бұрын
Great video had these ordered today do you mind telling me where did you get the brand new pins, brake pad holders, clips etc.
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
All the hardware came with the new pads so that just made life much easier, they usually do but if they don’t you can get a new hardware kit by itself from any parts store / rock auto etc. thanks for the support and good luck with your setup
@ljgamble Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the brake like adapters for the banjo bolts to fit with the calipers?
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
It’s provided with the honed kit
@ljgamble Жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 dang I’m swapping Porsche brakes onto a VW and that’s the only piece I’m having trouble finding, do you have a link to that kit? Maybe I can look at the parts list or something
@DJJAW11 Жыл бұрын
... Do they roughly match your brake master cylinder,or at least within 5 percent ?.
@aragrox 24 күн бұрын
There's a gap between pads and inside edge or rotor, whats sup with that?
@CrAzY6tothe6 9 ай бұрын
For the seals did you use genuine cause they were expensive af. Or would any other parts company be fine?
@victorsgarage5814 9 ай бұрын
I went oem, but centric sells a rebuild kit that’s comparable man wouldn’t sweat it as long as you seat everything properly and bench test before if I can with low psi and a block or something to mimic pads and rotors you should be good
@CrAzY6tothe6 9 ай бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814i appreciate the advice man thanks
@cary11223344 Жыл бұрын
What about something for rear brake setup like this? Would it be possible???
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
There are a few options out there in terms of 2 piston rear calipers - if you want to go larger and or lighter but the cost of that is something you’d have to weigh for whatever it is that you’re getting into.
@elsnacho 5 ай бұрын
Is the upgraded caliper an 17/18z? Style caliper? Thank you!
@victorsgarage5814 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think they’re either of those, the mini cooper rotors are 262mm the minimum rotor clearance on a 17z is 325 or 330mm
@DSKiV 6 ай бұрын
Dude, aren`t they the same as the Porsche Cayenne`s 4.5S rear ones ?
@victorsgarage5814 6 ай бұрын
Negative, different part # and mounting location, the team at honed has everything laid out for the swap on their website thanks for support
@AutomotiveAnatomy 2 жыл бұрын
What brake pad did you end up going with? Do you have any recommendations for them from stoptech or hawk? Thank you Victor.
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
I went with a standard centric pad, I’m not making the kind of power that deserves a heavy duty pad just yet and I’m far from turning some laps anytime soon. There’s a ton of options out there EBC & Hawk seem to be the standard for track use, as far as street you can go with a standard brembo replacement, akebono, or centric it all depends on what you’re getting into with the setup. Thanks for the support brother
@AutomotiveAnatomy 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 appreciate the help. I went with this set up and my brakes are not as bity as I thought it would be. I am going to bleed the system again and upgrade on pad. thanks for the help Victor.
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck hopefully everything works out in your favor it’s a great upgrade to go with for the money
@pavelpetrov9045 2 жыл бұрын
Good job mate.but from which model of 986 -2.7,3.2s or other ?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support brother, 986 base - so that’s the 2.7 liter
@kingjay3301 2 жыл бұрын
Does this have wheel clearing issues ? Will stock integras webs fit ??
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
I had to run a 20mm spacer to get my 15x6.5 +40 wheels to work and extended studs…honestly the ls webs won’t work they’re 15x6 with an offset of +40 if i remember, and if it works at all you’re going to have some serious poke and or rim face clearing issues with most stock wheels
@TheHatchimaru Жыл бұрын
Where can i get 20mm spacer same as yours?
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
I had these laying around the garage from another project that never, a quick google search should lead you to the right place, I would suggest going with a reputable company I know eibach and h&r make 20mm in 4x100 keep in mind if you do a pass through design you’ll need the run extended studs, if you don’t have extended studs you’ll need a bolt to hub design
@solehkaini8512 7 ай бұрын
Rim size 16inci... Right? Nice colour
@victorsgarage5814 7 ай бұрын
Those wheels are 15x6.5 which I spaced out 20mm, currently I’m running a 15x8.0 with a 2mm and that’s plenty of space now
@solehkaini8512 7 ай бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 colour code .
@namvlogschannel1199 Жыл бұрын
Hey!! 🤚🏻 can i know are you running the porsche 986 front caliper? If so is the max disc thickness allow was 28mm?
@victorsgarage5814 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know about that, brembo and jcw mini have it listed at 20.4mm I would honestly have no idea what the max would be. Sorry
@franciscomandujano707 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run stock break hoses that connect to the break calipers?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Yea there’s no need to upgrade to stainless unless you want you, it’s made to work with what’s on the car currently.
@franciscomandujano707 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 thank you for that. How hard was it to replace the seals and are you going to make a video on that?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
@@franciscomandujano707 not hard at all, you just need some compressed air and some patience I can definitely make a video on it if it’ll help you out
@franciscomandujano707 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 that would be awesome if you could. Would help a lot.
@ismaelfilms5838 2 жыл бұрын
hey man by any chance do you know if ls mesh wheels will fit? i want to do this for my ek civic, but i want to stay with the sleeper look they are ls mesh 15x6 45 offset
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a concrete answer for you but I don’t, because I went from a 14 inch oem wheel with the EX calipers to the 15” slip if I had to guess It would be really tight in terms of inner diameter of the wheel. offset can always be played around with by using the appropriate spacer but other things go into that too you’ll have to run extended studs and keep in mind spacers put more stress on your wheel bearings ball joints etc. since you’re changing the geometry of your suspension. Hope that helped you out
@kingjay3301 2 жыл бұрын
How much were the brakes before they became common I see some on eBay for 450-600
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
Not that far from what they’ve been going for now around 200+ a side is common
@ryanking6682 2 жыл бұрын
How are the brakes holding up bro? Still waiting for my honed bracket but managed to get some calipers anyway. Thanks, Ryan
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
So far zero issues, the car doesn’t come out much honestly but when it has everything has been feeling great. It’s a lot of stopping power for an already small car with a b series in it, I feel like I should change out the master/booster to maybe a prelude/integra setup but I still need to do some homework on that
@catsinflames4598 7 ай бұрын
Well did you do some homework on that? @@victorsgarage5814
@wbm756 Жыл бұрын
Are you also able to install Porsche 986 Calipers on the rear?
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
Negative totally different, personally I’m running 90 integra rear discs
@wbm756 Жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 Thank you for the info, I will look into doing the same!
@1BadRAMLimited 2 жыл бұрын
What year Porsche are these off of?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
These specific ones are off a 2000 boxster / 986 base model, anything from 97-04 are all the same off of the base model. Part #’s are in the description of this video, thanks for the support man
@benbulmash6446 Жыл бұрын
did you have a 15/16 or 1” MC?
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
15/16 Si mc
@benbulmash6446 Жыл бұрын
wow I’m supprised I’ve seen that all 4 piston need 1” for the right feel
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
@@benbulmash6446 Thankfully I’ve had zero issues with engagement, pedal feel, drivability so let’s hope it stays that way, I do have a 90 GS master / booster on stand by for when I’m feeling up for swapping
@alitoroganan2442 2 жыл бұрын
How much are those calipers, im from starya and they're like rare lol
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
They’ve gone up in price pretty significantly since I’ve done the upgrade search all the channels you can, eBay, rock auto is a good try if you’re willing to give up the core charge
@nopaint1 2 жыл бұрын
Are you running the honed brake booster delete? They recommend the 7/8 master with that setup.
@nopaint1 2 жыл бұрын
Also what kind of pads you running? I’m waiting b on all of mind to come in.
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
@@nopaint1 yes I’m going to be upgrading the master and running the delete so everything can run efficiently, as it currently sits it’s all stock, with a 40/40 prop valve & integra rear discs so stay tuned for when that happens. I’m currently running centric posi quiets as just a here to there I have zero issues, there are so many pad options out there
@nopaint1 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 so you’re looking for non s type boxer pads or does that matter?
@nopaint1 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 can’t wait to see what you do with the rear
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
@@nopaint1 yep boxster non s, 2.7L
@willielemosse3661 2 жыл бұрын
Will this fit a 94 cicic vx hatchback ?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
This particular kit won’t, you’ll need the 242mm/9.5 inch kit from honed 94 vx hatches came with a 9.5 inch rotor so the knuckle is different than the 262mm/10.3
@davnes83 2 жыл бұрын
What honed kit would I use on a 95 civic eg cx
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
I would confirm for sure before you pull the trigger but the cx knuckle is 242mm/9.5 inches so you would need that specific kit from honed, keep in mind your wheel options are limited
@misunderstoodvtec8299 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate I'm thinking about going same way on my civic are the calipers rears of fronts for 986 calipers any help will be appreciated 😊 👍 and I've just subscribed to your channel 😀
@victorsgarage5814 Жыл бұрын
Honed specifies, they need to be the front this is from them - “The calipers used must be the front calipers from the base model 986 Boxster, the piston sizing in the rear calipers will not work correctly though they are nearly indistinguishable externally” thanks for the support I appreciate it
@misunderstoodvtec8299 Жыл бұрын
@VICTOR’S GARAGE hi mate OK thank you and what size discs can I use they are going on a eg civic 4door mk6
@slackerzsincity8822 2 жыл бұрын
How much did all of these cost
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
I pieced together the calipers I bought one used and one OEM re-manufactured from rock auto, so the calipers came in just under 400 bucks, between the honed kit which is north of 200 bucks plus pads - and rotors - paint etc all in you can get this done somewhere in the 700 dollar range if you stick to the basic options,
@jteck4133 3 жыл бұрын
When you were bleeding the brakes which ones came first and last. Do you start from the front to the back or ...??
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always done the following… passenger rear drivers rear passenger front drivers front That pattern starts you on the side furtherest away from the master and finishes with the one closest to it, the hand held pump for me is more efficient if you don’t have an extra hand to help with the bleeding. But if you have help then the same practice will apply I just didn’t film myself doing the rear bleeds
@jteck4133 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 I’ve been having a problem of it sinking in. I changed the master cylinder and brake booster
@jteck4133 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 I did the same method of bleeding the brakes.
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
Brake fade like that almost 100% of the time is a failed master but being that you’ve changed that along with the booster I would track down any possible leaks hard lines / soft lines / and adapter going into the 986 calipers make sure that’s at 8ft lbs and then work backwards from there also make sure you’re getting a good seal on your master cap also any pressure loss in the system is going to show itself in pedal feel.
@RichardM479 2 жыл бұрын
What size master cylinder are you using?
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Standard DX with no issues so far. I was going to go with a 90-93 integra All the research I’ve done shows it’s 15/16 across the board so it wouldn’t be an upgrade for me. With the exception of the ABS models which are 1” MC & Booster so that would be the move if I wanted to go that route
@RichardM479 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 the dx and hf is a 13/16 the si is a 7/8 and the civic ex and prelude si had 15/16. Reason I asked is I put these on my dx and I've bled it multiple times but my pedal just sinks
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardM479 I know this information is dated, but it has all the part numbers for reference and is the most detailed I could find when I was getting information prior to doing the swap, I hope this helps you out honda-tech.com/forums/tech-misc-15/reference-master-cylinder-sizes-928201/ what I can tell you from my experience is that to my knowledge I’m running a DX booster / master with no issues with fade or sinking but I’ll confirm for sure as soon as I can for you just so I’m giving you the most accurate information I could
@RichardM479 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorsgarage5814 for sure! Thanks man!
@victorsgarage5814 2 жыл бұрын
Confirmed on that m/c - booster it’s stock dx. Nissin NM205V-3 bro my best advice would be to check the adapters going into the calipers make sure they’re not over tightened and/or loose check all your connections / bleeders etc when i did the swap my drivers side needed way more bleeding until i had a clean stream. since my bay is empty I am going ex master/booster pedal engagement is the main difference but again I can confirm I had about 100 miles driven and zero issues with the dx setup. Good luck !
@turbod15 3 жыл бұрын
Wat pad
@victorsgarage5814 3 жыл бұрын
I used centric part # 10507370 those are the posi quiet - ceramic pads, this car won’t see the track any time soon so those are a solid “daily driver” style pad
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